Mafia XIV Game Thread - GAME OVER - Cult Win! Skulls for the Skull Throne!

**[M] Adama** · 02-01-2010, 06:33 PM

I don't think Valefor was Cult then. I think he was recruited later on probably because no one suspected him at first. This would explain his change of behavior from going from huge contributor to lackluster lay lower.

**[M] Helo** · 02-01-2010, 06:37 PM

Reverse that logic and it can be said for Odin, Diablos and Anima as well. A cult member could also realise that being inactive would get them lynched and so they start contributing more (or looking like they are)

**[M] Adama** · 02-01-2010, 06:39 PM

High on my suspect list
Anima
Bahamut
Odin
Siren
Valefor

The bilge rats.

**[M] Colette** · 02-01-2010, 06:52 PM

Originally Posted by [M] Carbuncle

I am not a doctor or a roleblocker. I am the Companion. I have the roleblocking and doctor ability. This does not mean it is similar to what you think it is Bahamut. My doctor abilties protect against all bad effects this I would presume means being recruited by Cult too.

You keep trying to sway people into believing that Ifrit, Titan or me is part of the Cult perhaps because you are part of the Cult yourself.

Do you have verifiable proof that the player you supposedly target at night is protected from being recruited by a Cult Leader?

I'm not trying to sway anyone, Carbuncle. I'm pointing out my opinion that, if a Cult Leader has the power to recruit Town aligned "power roles", then it's possible that any of us have been recruited by a supposed Cult (besides Shiva, assuming she is a Nexus). You, Ifrit, and Titan are the examples usually because you claimed early and it seems that people are accustomed to addressing you as "power roles".

Originally Posted by [M] Diablos

Also, here are my problems with Bahamut's Roleclaim, even if others have said what I am about to, I will say it now anyway.

1. He said not to have actions done on him. This is a way for him to protect himself.

2. He said he will come up guilty. In most games, the Cult Leader comes up as guilty, I believe.

3. It is impossible to confirm, without killing him.

It is a very convinient thing to claim, and it ensures his protection.

But From what everyone else has said, I still believe Valefor is the way to go. I think Anima can be based off of Valefor's role. Here is a possible scenerio I think is possible.

Valefor is the Cult Leader, and Anima is one of the Cultists, or the only cultist.
Valefor, seeing he may be lynched, has Anima take a fall so he can survive at least 1 more round.
Valefor then recruits one more so the Cult still has a chance.

1. This is a way for me explain my logic that targeting me is a waste of time for the Town.

2. I believe that is an incorrect presumption. Cult Leaders come us Insane by Psychologist investigation but not guilty by Cop investigation if I remember correctly.

3. Killing me will not confirm that I am a Death Miller. I will flip "Mafia Goon" if killed, Diablos.

And yeah, Siren's really giving me the heeby-jeebies right now. She really doesn't discuss much, does she? Shall we make it a bit closer?

## Unvote: Valefor

## Vote: Siren

Current vote count, I think. Correct me if I'm wrong, please.

Anima - 2
Siren - 2
Titan - 2
Valefor - 3

**[M] Adama** · 02-01-2010, 06:55 PM

As I just explained to you Bahamut, my role pm has noted that I can protect against bad effects. It did not say against killing only. That is all your little mind needs to know.

**[M] Adama** · 02-01-2010, 06:59 PM

Originally Posted by [M] Bahamut

Anima - 2
Siren - 2
Titan - 2
Valefor - 3

Who are the ones that voted for these creatures?

**[M] Athena** · 02-01-2010, 07:21 PM

Guys, I just want to say that Siren is the one I investigated last night, and she came up as Sane. She's not Cult.

**[M] Colette** · 02-01-2010, 07:33 PM

In-depth vote count, then.

Anima - 2 (Leviathan, Phoenix)
Siren - 2 (Bahamut, Ramuh)
Titan - 2 (Shiva, Valefor)
Valefor - 3 (Diablos, Ifrit, Odin)

And oh snap, son. Have you been recruited into a Cult, Titan? Are you perhaps saying that to throw us off of Siren's trail? Or do you think perhaps your investigations yield opposite results, meaning that a Dud would actually be Sane and Siren is actually Insane? I don't doubt your ability as a Psychologist but I'm worried that you've been tainted after the Cheater supposedly cleared your role. I remember you saying something along the lines of "If a player I target comes up as Insane then they're against the town." I don't think a Dud would be against the Town.

**[M] Helo** · 02-01-2010, 07:37 PM

Lynching Siren would reveal all at the expense of a not-so-active player.

**[M] Adama** · 02-01-2010, 08:06 PM

Speak Siren or forever hold your peace. Preferably speak.

**[M] Kurt - Cool Dad** · 02-01-2010, 08:12 PM

Originally Posted by [M] Ramuh

Sorry, I refuse to claim. A mass roleclaim, where we pick out the roles that don't compute, needs to be done earlier in the day where we haven't already got a favorite for the lynch. I will address this problem with voting though, and I'll smack a vote on a person who has yet to roleclaim and yet to vote. I also find her to be the most shifty.

##Vote: Siren

You refuse to claim, yet you vote for someone else who hasn't claimed? What the hell, Ramuh?

**[M] Helo** · 02-01-2010, 08:14 PM

Difference is I know I'm innocent.

**[M] Kurt - Cool Dad** · 02-01-2010, 08:16 PM

Originally Posted by [M] Titan

Guys, I just want to say that Siren is the one I investigated last night, and she came up as Sane. She's not Cult.

If I don't get lynched today, and I get recruited tonight, I'm voting for you first thing tomorrow

**[M] Helo** · 02-01-2010, 08:17 PM

Explain why Doomtrain got an insane reading.

**[M] Helo** · 02-01-2010, 08:17 PM

In fact i would like to ask the moderator if a dud would be insane or not.

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