Mafia XIV Game Thread - GAME OVER - Cult Win! Skulls for the Skull Throne!

[[M] Adama]

Oh, and who is gunning for [M] Bahamut? I've always wanted to lynch him too.

*raises hand*

Yes.

[[M] Apollo]

Finally done with the shifts from hell. Starting to root through what I've missed.

I don't think Valefor is Cult Leader, because of this early remark.

A Psycholigist can find cult members, much like a Cop finds mafia. At least that's my impression of it. Having a Psych would presume we have a cult...

Why would Valefor hint about a Cult so early on?

Agreed, fishy.

Oh, ha ha, I misread this entirely. THIS TOTALLY MAKES [M] Valefor look dirty. Maybe it's 'cause I'm such a newbie myself, but I've not encountered the Psychologist role in the flash or wiki. I was thinking Psychiatrist, and [M] Cactuar got it wrong. If EoFF's games have included Psychologists before, then it makes sense, but otherwise, the guy already divined the Psychologist's role without any information.

[[M] Helo]

I'm leaving and won't be back to see the end of the day. I'm going to do a bit of last minute mind changing now, and vote someone who only recently became active and contributive.

##Unvote: Siren
##Vote: Diablos

[[M] Helo]

Ifrit, why do you believe I could be Cult just because I have yet to roleclaim?

Also, here are my problems with Bahamut's Roleclaim, even if others have said what I am about to, I will say it now anyway.

1. He said not to have actions done on him. This is a way for him to protect himself.

2. He said he will come up guilty. In most games, the Cult Leader comes up as guilty, I believe.

3. It is impossible to confirm, without killing him.

It is a very convinient thing to claim, and it ensures his protection.

But From what everyone else has said, I still believe Valefor is the way to go. I think Anima can be based off of Valefor's role. Here is a possible scenerio I think is possible.

Valefor is the Cult Leader, and Anima is one of the Cultists, or the only cultist.
Valefor, seeing he may be lynched, has Anima take a fall so he can survive at least 1 more round.
Valefor then recruits one more so the Cult still has a chance.

Bolded parts are false. Cults come up as innocent, it is not a convenient thing to claim, and even if he died, he could not prove he was Death Miller because he would flip Mafia. Also it is entirely plausible for Ifrit to think you were Cult because lots of others have made (generally) reliable claims that they are town.

I gotta go now. Bye!

[[M] Apollo]

Your Emperor-God has decided to share this with you. If he gets Vigilante powers tonight, he's purging the Heathen Anima.

Jester or Cult, he's not on the side of the Righteous, and can stop the true Children of Rydia from winning. This is the best way to cleanse the wicked.

But what if you don't get Vigilante powers? It'll be Day 5 with 5 Cultists and we still won't know if [M] Anima is a Jester or not. I think he's been holding out too long if he wanted to be lynched. Remember how easily we caved in to lynching the foul-mouthed [M] Cactuar. He could've even sprinkled a little scummy slips into his grand total of ten posts and gotten attention that way. But here he is in the middle of Day 4 claiming Jester like he has no idea of what he's doing. If he got Jester, he got the explanation in his PM, and he would have tried better to hang himself. We've been doing the work of trying to hang him before he outed himself, it's supposed to be he does the work and doesn't out himself. Eagh, it doesn't sit with me, no, not at all.

I'm going to unvote [M] Titan for now and get back to you on who looks good soon. :\

[[M] Apollo]

##UNVOTE: [M] Titan

[[M] Felix]

Ah yes, that reminds your God-Emperor. Goddess Rydia has informed me that any Cop investigation on a disgusting Cult Leader would come up innocent. Therefore if I have Cop powers, I am paying Bahamut a spiritual visit. How amusing that if he turns up guilty it's a good thing for him!

[[M] Elize]

Well, Ramuh...

I was talking about the leader, not the individual members. I could not remember whether or not the leader came up innocent or guilty, and I thought I remember that it was guilty in the last mafia where there was a Cult, but I may be wrong. I don't completely remember.

And since we have already confirmed that there is no mafia, then him coming up as a mafia goon would mean he is a death miller. I thought anyone with half a brain could realize what I meant, so I didn't elaborate any further. Apparently I was wrong. Or maybe I wasnt?

And why isn't it convenient to claim?

Preview Edit: Ah, I see now that I was indeed wrong in thinking that Cult Leaders come up Guilty. Thank you Ifrit.

[[M] Apollo]

Ifrit, why do you believe I could be Cult just because I have yet to roleclaim?

Also, here are my problems with Bahamut's Roleclaim, even if others have said what I am about to, I will say it now anyway.

1. He said not to have actions done on him. This is a way for him to protect himself.

2. He said he will come up guilty. In most games, the Cult Leader comes up as guilty, I believe.

3. It is impossible to confirm, without killing him.

It is a very convinient thing to claim, and it ensures his protection.

But From what everyone else has said, I still believe Valefor is the way to go. I think Anima can be based off of Valefor's role. Here is a possible scenerio I think is possible.

Valefor is the Cult Leader, and Anima is one of the Cultists, or the only cultist.
Valefor, seeing he may be lynched, has Anima take a fall so he can survive at least 1 more round.
Valefor then recruits one more so the Cult still has a chance.

Bolded parts are false. Cults come up as innocent, it is not a convenient thing to claim, and even if he died, he could not prove he was Death Miller because he would flip Mafia. Also it is entirely plausible for Ifrit to think you were Cult because lots of others have made (generally) reliable claims that they are town.

I gotta go now. Bye!

Oh whoa, why the sudden and inaccurate defense?

[M] Bahamut's claim as a Death Miller would be a great way to muddle things up were he the Cult Leader. Whether he comes up Guilty has no bearing here, since all we have is Sane and Insane, so that's a moot point to bring up. And if he flips mafia, that's great and all, but we only get to see him flip mafia if we flip him, so that piece of information is useless is well.

The only thing which would save [M] Bahamut's bum is [M] Titan's declaration of Sane, something [M] Bahamut always keeps mentioning, which is suddenly funny because haven't we been thinking [M] Titan has become Cult? (If that's the case) Of course [M] Titan is going to say he's clean!

##VOTE: [M] Bahamut

[[M] Apollo]

Ah yes, that reminds your God-Emperor. Goddess Rydia has informed me that any Cop investigation on a disgusting Cult Leader would come up innocent. Therefore if I have Cop powers, I am paying Bahamut a spiritual visit. How amusing that if he turns up guilty it's a good thing for him!

Are you always in favor of waiting? Everyone who is dirty enough for a lynch gets passed up in favor of waiting for a random power to come around. I don't think there's time, God-Emperor.

[[M] Apollo]

How much time do we have left?

[[M] Apollo]

Two-ish hours? No need to rush this.

##UNVOTE

[[M] Felix]

Wait? No, no, Sister Shiva, I do not choose to wait.

I believe Valefor is the Dark Priest we are after. Brother Bahamut is more of a nagging doubt in the back of my holy mind.

[[M] Mom – Host]

Day opened at 2:40EST, you've got until 8:40EST. It is currently 6:06EST.

[[M] Adama]

I don't think Valefor is the Cult Leader for reasons I already stated. If anything, he'd be a Cult Member. Bahamut seems like he'd be the Cult Leader, but alas if Ifrit gets cop powers we'll probably be able to decipher whether Bahamut was just spouting lies.

##Vote: Valefor