Quote Originally Posted by Momiji View Post
I dunno, Leafeon and Espeon get some pretty awesome moves.

Leaf Blade + Grasswhistle + Swords Dance + Baton Pass is a great setup, after all, not to mention Leafeon is an offensive and defensive powerhouse, so it'll take a bit to weaken it-- and when that time comes, baton pass off to a pokemon that uses physical attacks and just start sweeping.

If you really want to get creative, pair Leafeon with a Flareon that knows Wish, Baton Pass, and Sunny Day (plus a STAB physical attack like Fire Fang or something). This way, Flareon gets its already massive physical attack (with extremely limited movepool, unfortunately) boosted with Baton Pass for a quick kill, or it can play support for Leafeon by passing back the boosted attack, along with Sunny Day (to activate Leafeon's ability, no status effects in sunlight), and Wish for a 50% health boost.

It doesn't always matter if a Pokemon gets stuck with bad moves, you can still work it to your advantage
Oh, agreed. I wouldn't ditch the Eeveelutions for anything.

And, it's true, they make pretty decent supporters (especially Umbreon, who is the King of Double Battle support Pokemon).

But the actual attacking capabilities of each one are essentially limited to two types of moves: Normal and their Evolution type (or Bite if you get it as an Eevee, but Flareon and Umbreon are really the only ones who can do anything with Bite since it turned Physical). Hidden Power is pretty much the only other attack they get, and getting a good Hidden Power can be very difficult.

Now, even with just Normal and Psychic moves, Espeon is a beast, but more type coverage is needed since the Steel type became so dang common in Gen 4. Grass Knot and Shadow Ball are the only decent off-type Special Attacks Espeon can get, and they aren't superb for coverage against Dark or Steel. Ideally, you'd get a Fire-Type Hidden Power (since Espeon can't get Flamethrower or Fire Blast), and Swift for a Normal type move (Swift has been awesome since it turned Special). That gives us Psychic, Swift, Hidden Power Fire, and Morning Sun. That is my preferred setup for Espeon, and it gives Espeon more than enough sweeping capabilities for my team, especially when paired with a Sunny Day teammate (which Leafeon, Flareon, and, to a lesser extent, Umbreon, can also take care of).

And Flareon really needs Flare Blitz. With that beastly Attack Stat, it sucks that most of its attack moves aren't Physical.


Current Party:
Typhlosion
Gengar
Golem
Eevee (who will evolve in a couple minutes next time he levels up)
Sandshrew (kept around for HM use)

I have an Abra and a Dratini with good IVs and Nature, but I haven't started using them yet. I'm not sure what Pokemon I'm going to use for Surf or Fly though. I hate TMs. They completely negate the usefullness of a third of your team.