Handheld Arguements, aka why the psp is the best handheld.

[Bolivar]

The majority of your replies just twist words and use your own personal preferences/experiences as fact rather than opinion all in a very underhand abrasive tone toward the person you're quoting. You show little to no respect about differences of preferences or tastes which is not "gentlemanly debate" at all.

Can I please ask you:

Peace Walker and Valkyria Chronicles II being head and shoulders above any title I've played in the longer time I've owned a DS Lite and GameBoy Color make the debate a subjective analysis that comes down to your preference and the games you've played.

Why you're coming at me? Why are you accusing me of dismissing opinions when I'm on the record saying this largely comes down to opinions? And you still haven't clarified what I said to Vivi was passive aggressive or "i'm right you're wrong."

Do you have something against me?

Honestly Bolivar, I'm just not sure why I bother anymore. I'm just pretty smurfing sick and tired of every debate in which myself or anyone else disagrees with you about something lately resulting in you immediately accusing someone of not reading your posts or needing to work on their reading comprehension when they are clearly and directly addressing points which you yourself made

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But I do disagree with you that ports and remakes are overly important in determining how good a console or handheld is.

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Ports and remakes alone do not a great handheld make in my opinion.

Really

But being able to play ten or more year old games doesn't make something the best system ever.

Blame me?

Sure, that's a good point in favour of owning one, but a really great console or handheld needs more going for it than the ability to play its predecessors greatest hits.

So you've said 4, or 3 1/2 times in this thread so far that you need more than ports/remakes to have a great handheld. How can I not help but assume you haven't read my post when ports/remakes were limited to a relatively small part at the end of a very long post? Is this really insulting when we have ample quotes by you to suggest it?

And how can you be insulted when the only contribution you've made to this thread was to disagree with me? Vivi, this isn't the first time that you've admitted to having no interest in the topic at hand, yet you still enter in order to pick apart my argument at every chance. What's up with you?

Bolivar, what about Golden Sun series, the Rune Factory games, Dragon Quest IX, FFTA and FFTA2, the Fire Emblem games, the Advance Wars games, 358/2 Days, the Pokemon games, Radiant Historia, the Megaman Battle Network and Zero series, the Phoenix Wright games, the Legend of Zelda games, the Metroid games? I'd rate any of those over most of the games on your list.

Bro, I actually own a lot of those games! I even think a lot of those games are downright groundbreaking. I thought Phantom Hourglass was an incredible use of the stylus and was an apotheosis of the Nintendo DS. I thought Rune Factory was an amazing refresh of the series.

I only made my list since Vivi said we'd been having trouble naming more than half a dozen decent titles on the PSP. I think both systems have a long library of great games. And I'm sure we could find some more titles that you would like if we talked about Growlanser, or the Legend of Heroes games and maybe some in the Disgaea universe. All I'm saying is that none of my favorite DS games have reached the heights of titles like Peace Walker or Valkyria Chronicles. I would throw Tactics Ogre in there but I might get my head bitten off for being dismissive or mean or something. So when it comes to library of original titles, as I said, quoted above, I really think its subjective, if you think the best titles on one can really top the best titles on the other. But I take better design and functionality and the extensive list of a lot of the greatest games ever made as sealing the deal. But that's just for me.

I'll also agree with BoB that:

Pokémon has definitely grabbed a bunch of cash out of Danielle and myself but I still generally consider them to be entertaining but incomplete games. I actually find Pokémon as a series really insulting in how it recycles the same game over and over and over with limited changes.

Pokemon is the flagship Nintendo handheld title, it's a huge reason for owning one, to me. But I actually had to stop playing Pokemon White because the remake of Heart Gold was so much more fun. The series has gotten into some serious trouble on the last handheld, and I've heard Black/White 2 is probably the biggest debacle yet. It's one of Nintendo's key strengths to handheld dominance, and it's in dire need of help right now.