Mafia XXV: Action Movie Badasses Game Thread Day 6

[[M] D'Anna]

Reason being, I have nothing to worry about as me dying would only incriminate bad people.

However there's also a degree of collateral damage involved as well. Let's quickly examine who is voting for you:


5 [M] Sigourney Weaver : [M] Jet Li, [M] Dwayne Johnson, [M] Will Smith, [M] Nicolas Cage, [M] Sigourney Weaver


Excluding you (obviously) there's four people voting for you. I'd say at least one of them is Mafia. While technically (given increased numbers) ALL FOUR of them could be Mafia, which might incriminate them, really? No. I'd say one, maybe two Mafia in there, and that's pushing it.

By you dying, you say you would incriminate bad people, but you might end up falsely incriminating good people as well. Even if you do flip town, it may end up hurting the town more than assisting it.

Besides, self-voting is more of a Mafia thing. Better push yourself under a bus than have a Mafia teammate incriminate himself pushing you under one.

[[M] Trevor - Gay Dad]

Those links all lead to the same page.

Yes, but different posts on that page, with the post numbers noted in that link.

Self voting is not anti-town. Reason being, I have nothing to worry about as me dying would only incriminate bad people. People who want to live are anti-town, with far less people on their side, and thus have every right to want to defend themselves. The problem is though that me dying so early on would hurt more than help town, but if I can take one scum down with me then so be it. It may lead to many more.

Are you drunk?

Put yourself in the position who got a town role PM.

Excepting cases like Sammy where your role signals the existence of another role, if you have a town role PM, you know the alignment of exactly one (1) player: yourself. Mislynches are bad for town. Selfvoting increases the likelihood of a mislynch of the only person you know to be confirmed town: yourself. If you help lynch yourself, then the town cannot lynch scum the same day, and the town needs to lynch scum to win.

Anything you do that leads to lynching someone you know is town is by definition antitown.

Although I can see how that logic wouldn't occur to you if you got a scum role PM.

[[M] Mom – Host]

No they were part of the original set-up and I finally got the opportunity to add them! xD

Anyway...

5 [M] Sigourney Weaver : [M] Jet Li, [M] Dwayne Johnson, [M] Will Smith, [M] Nicolas Cage, [M] Sigourney Weaver

1 [M] Jason Statham : [M] Sigourney Weaver, [M] Arnold Schwarzenegger

15 hours and 45 minutes left.

[[M] Ron - Cop Dad]

Those links all lead to the same page.

Yes, but different posts on that page, with the post numbers noted in that link.

Self voting is not anti-town. Reason being, I have nothing to worry about as me dying would only incriminate bad people. People who want to live are anti-town, with far less people on their side, and thus have every right to want to defend themselves. The problem is though that me dying so early on would hurt more than help town, but if I can take one scum down with me then so be it. It may lead to many more.

Are you drunk?

Put yourself in the position who got a town role PM.

Excepting cases like Sammy where your role signals the existence of another role, if you have a town role PM, you know the alignment of exactly one (1) player: yourself. Mislynches are bad for town. Selfvoting increases the likelihood of a mislynch of the only person you know to be confirmed town: yourself. If you help lynch yourself, then the town cannot lynch scum the same day, and the town needs to lynch scum to win.

Anything you do that leads to lynching someone you know is town is by definition antitown.

Although I can see how that logic wouldn't occur to you if you got a scum role PM.

I'm sober.

You do have a point, a mislynch would be bad especially considering I am entirely too important to die, but my logic is that since town still outnumbers Mafia by a good number this early on, me dying is okay as it will incriminate more scum and the person who wreaks of the scummy, which is Jason. The only flip side to it is that the town who are being manipulated by the scum to vote for me will then be put on the chopping block. Scum will use their vote against me to try to put them up on the chopping block.

[[M] Gaius]

Don't twist her arm! She really wants to vote for herself....
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Weaver you keep hinting that you're somehow special to us, do you want to say why? I'm voting for Statham regardless, but I'd like to know if you're hinting because you're frustrated that attention's on you when you know what you can do for town or because you're mafia trying to sound like a poor wittle townie getting persecuted.

[[M] Ron - Cop Dad]

I just said I'm not a townie, so why would I act like a "poor little townie".

Now I know why Sam was so frustrated with you guys Jesus Christ. How many hints do I have to give? I said that Jason is confirmed bad. Do you need me to draw you a picture?

Role claiming 15 hours in to the day, yeah what's the point? I know that if I role claim I'm dead or definitely a a target atleast. Eventually I will if I must, because let's say (let's hope) that there is a Doctor, and that's why we have no night kills. I will help town and I am by telling you to kill Statham. You don't need to know why right now just know it's confirmed.

[[M] Trevor - Gay Dad]

You do have a point, a mislynch would be bad especially considering I am entirely too important to die, but my logic is that since town still outnumbers Mafia by a good number this early on, me dying is okay as it will incriminate more scum and the person who wreaks of the scummy, which is Jason. The only flip side to it is that the town who are being manipulated by the scum to vote for me will then be put on the chopping block. Scum will use their vote against me to try to put them up on the chopping block.

You're talking like everyone on your wagon will be autolynched. The town isn't going to lynch someone purely because they voted in favour of a mislynch. Town can be wrong on reads, every townie understands this. Voting to lynch you convicts nobody. Especially if you flip scum, as I am becoming more and more certain you will with each post.

[[M] Ron - Cop Dad]

Voting to lynch you convicts nobody. Especially if you flip scum, as I am becoming more and more certain you will with each post.

Wrong, it convicts Jason. Ofcourse not everyone will be lynched who votes me and probably not everyone voting for me is scum. I'm not saying that, but the people who I pin pointed as being suspicious will be under scrutiny.

[[M] Gaius]

Not really trying to convince you to roleclaim so much as, but if you must sacrifice yourself at least roleclaim first, and see what happens, instead of just killing yourself.

Hints, it seems to me, are stupid bulltrout in this. You don't know the relative experiences of the mafia vs townies. How do you know that the mafia won't pick up on your hints while the townies miss it completely? And how is that helpful?

I'm not accusing you of anything Weaver, I just don't know wth you're saying. I don't see where you said just now that you weren't a townie. And I don't know what that even means. How could you be for the town but not a townie and have somehow perfect knowledge that Statham's mafia? What combination of super powers is that?

I swear I've read the role faq. I swear it. I don't know how I keep missing trout.

[[M] Ron - Cop Dad]

Town can be wrong on reads, every townie understands this. Voting to lynch you convicts nobody.

Ofcourse a scum would say this because you know how I will turn up, so you're covering your own ass at this point.

[[M] Gaius]

Town can be wrong on reads, every townie understands this. Voting to lynch you convicts nobody.

Ofcourse a scum would say this because you know how I will turn up, so you're covering your own ass at this point.

You saying Cage is scum too? Is this another case of you knowing for sure, or you just suspect him?

[[M] Adama]

I am willing to go with you claim Weaver. If you are what you claim you are then I think it is a more important role than Statham's role. Given the choice between those two I would choose you instead. But first we need to see Jason show up and throw down with nonsense and tell us more about what he picked, why and all that jazz. There is always the chance you are still scum and are just trying to survive one more day but there is still some time left.

[[M] Harry - Dad's Dad]

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[[M] D'Anna]

I just said I'm not a townie, so why would I act like a "poor little townie".

So you say your not a townie, but that you are trying to help the town. Wha? I'm confused. And don't blame me for being green, seriously everyone's talking in riddles.

[[M] Gaius]

Dammit, I don't understand. Weaver didn't claim a role, did she? She just says she knows Statham is mafia. Now I'm fine with that since I think Statham's mafia, but i don't understand the weird half-claim thing going on.