Books: (SPOILER)Isn't that sort of vital for explaining the hilarious trolling Wyman Manderly does later on? Should have had a couple of lines just introducing him at least.Originally Posted by Cuchulainn
I thought it was important too. Very important.
I just found out that the guy who plays Hodor plays a ton of World of Warcraft.
Do you think I can wrangle him into playing with me if I resub?
Hodor?
Last edited by The Man; 06-05-2013 at 09:18 PM.
LOL. And to add to that:
And here's a Facebook recap of The Rains of Castamere.
Unrelated, but I went to Goodwill (a secondhand shop/donation center) today and saw a hardcover copy of A Dance With Dragons for 3.99. What.
He better have "Hodor" macroed to every single one of his abilities. Otherwise it is unacceptable.
Spoilers for the A Song of Ice and Fire book series in this post.
(SPOILER)Lady Stoneheart is leading the Brotherhood Without Banners. She is nowhere near the wall. Catelyn cared little for Jon in life, why would she care for him in death? It was Ned who knew the secret of Jon's parentage. Catelyn would not harbor such a grudge with Jon if she knew the secret of Jon's parentage and that Ned had not dishonored her as she imagined. So, this theory would require that Lady Stoneheart somehow comes upon the truth of Jon Snow's parentage, makes a trek to the wall, and then arrives at the exact moment to give him the kiss of life.
I believe in the power of humanity.
(SPOILER)Which therefore implies that she has already met Howland Reed (the only living person who can confirm Jon's parentage) and after we last saw her with Brienne she immediately headed north and will arrive just in time at the beginning of book six. All of which, of course, are very unlikely.Spoilers for the A Song of Ice and Fire book series in this post.
(SPOILER)Lady Stoneheart is leading the Brotherhood Without Banners. She is nowhere near the wall. Catelyn cared little for Jon in life, why would she care for him in death? It was Ned who knew the secret of Jon's parentage. Catelyn would not harbor such a grudge with Jon if she knew the secret of Jon's parentage and that Ned had not dishonored her as she imagined. So, this theory would require that Lady Stoneheart somehow comes upon the truth of Jon Snow's parentage, makes a trek to the wall, and then arrives at the exact moment to give him the kiss of life.
Either Howland Reed will appear at some point (it has been confirmed that he will eventually show up) and cross paths with Jon (or someone on their way to Jon) to reveal that Jon's mother is Lyanna Stark and his father is Rhaegar Targaryen, or Bran is going to find out using his newfound ability to warg into the past through the Weirwoods and inform Jon in some manner.
Also, just because Melisandre hasn't yet given the kiss of life does not mean that she is incapable of doing so.
Massive book spoilersIt's so heavily foreshadowed that Jon will warg into Ghost to save his consciousness intact and then be resurrected by Melisandre that I'm not really sure why his fate is even in doubt. The prologue of the book is pretty clearly there to establish that skinchangers can save their consciousness inside wild animals, and it's already established that red priest(esse)s are able to resurrect people from the dead (even if Melisandre hasn't been depicted doing this yet). Melisandre's presence there is no coincidence.
(SPOILER)I know she's not there now. I think it's pretty obvious, as Aaron says, that Jon warged into Ghost - but he can't remain a dire wolf forever. I think Catelyn as a character feels so much remorse over how horrible she was to Jon now that she believes all of her other children are gone. You have to remember that two of her children are indeed in the North. Rickon is the most likely to raise his head due to what Wyman Manderly is up to - so that is why I think she will head north, and on the way is of course Greywater Watch so I think she will encounter the truth from Howland Reed. Someone has to tell Jon, after all! It could be Howland himself, I guess, but he has no connection with Jon and that would lack some impact, I think. I just cannot believe Catelyn and Jon Snow are finished yet and to me that seems like the ultimate redemption.Spoilers for the A Song of Ice and Fire book series in this post.
(SPOILER)Lady Stoneheart is leading the Brotherhood Without Banners. She is nowhere near the wall. Catelyn cared little for Jon in life, why would she care for him in death? It was Ned who knew the secret of Jon's parentage. Catelyn would not harbor such a grudge with Jon if she knew the secret of Jon's parentage and that Ned had not dishonored her as she imagined. So, this theory would require that Lady Stoneheart somehow comes upon the truth of Jon Snow's parentage, makes a trek to the wall, and then arrives at the exact moment to give him the kiss of life.
(Book spoils)
Massive book spoilers, againI do have to admit that the idea of Stoneheart doing something to repay her debt to Jon is a compelling idea, and I wouldn't even be surprised if Martin is planning something along those lines eventually, but I just don't think she'll resurrect him, unless he gets killed again. It's too likely that Melisandre will save him.
(SPOILER)They're hundreds and hundreds of miles away from eachother with a war going on between them. I highly doubt Stoneheart will the one saving Jon. (Spook Boiler)(SPOILER)I know she's not there now. I think it's pretty obvious, as Aaron says, that Jon warged into Ghost - but he can't remain a dire wolf forever. I think Catelyn as a character feels so much remorse over how horrible she was to Jon now that she believes all of her other children are gone. You have to remember that two of her children are indeed in the North. Rickon is the most likely to raise his head due to what Wyman Manderly is up to - so that is why I think she will head north, and on the way is of course Greywater Watch so I think she will encounter the truth from Howland Reed. Someone has to tell Jon, after all! It could be Howland himself, I guess, but he has no connection with Jon and that would lack some impact, I think. I just cannot believe Catelyn and Jon Snow are finished yet and to me that seems like the ultimate redemption.Spoilers for the A Song of Ice and Fire book series in this post.
(SPOILER)Lady Stoneheart is leading the Brotherhood Without Banners. She is nowhere near the wall. Catelyn cared little for Jon in life, why would she care for him in death? It was Ned who knew the secret of Jon's parentage. Catelyn would not harbor such a grudge with Jon if she knew the secret of Jon's parentage and that Ned had not dishonored her as she imagined. So, this theory would require that Lady Stoneheart somehow comes upon the truth of Jon Snow's parentage, makes a trek to the wall, and then arrives at the exact moment to give him the kiss of life.
(Book spoils)
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