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Thread: Who do you think had more development?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Carl the Llama View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Shauna View Post
    No bias going on in this here post, nope not even a tiny little bit.
    Of course I am biased, everyone who has played both games that posts an opinion is biased one way or another.

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    As Jiro pointed out, more character development isn't necessarily better, and in this case I'd definitely be thinking of who was better developed rather than how much. Saying that so-n-so was more developed means literally nothing. x}
    I never said anything to disagree and while Dak does have raises an interesting point, Cloud (obviously imo) has more character... think about it, who do people relate to the most? Cloud, the character who didn't have his dreams fulfilled, but goes on to do well in his life, over coming hardship to make himself proud of the man he has become. Or Zack, who left home at an early age to live his dream, joined Soldier and had love in his life and died a tragic death? I don't know about you but imo 9/10 times people would say they were rooting for the underdog.

    Of course that doesn't mean I don't like Zack, I think he has an amazing character, upbeat and strong while being kind and gentle at the same time... but I personally think that Cloud is the better of the two.

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    Anyway, I can't really comment since I've not played Crisis Core. :3 I'll get round to it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hypoallergenic Chie View Post
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shauna View Post
    No bias going on in this here post, nope not even a tiny little bit.
    Of course I am biased, everyone who has played both games that posts an opinion is biased one way or another.

    Quote Originally Posted by Shauna
    As Jiro pointed out, more character development isn't necessarily better, and in this case I'd definitely be thinking of who was better developed rather than how much. Saying that so-n-so was more developed means literally nothing. x}
    I never said anything to disagree and while Dak does have raises an interesting point, Cloud (obviously imo) has more character... think about it, who do people relate to the most? Cloud, the character who didn't have his dreams fulfilled, but goes on to do well in his life, over coming hardship to make himself proud of the man he has become. Or Zack, who left home at an early age to live his dream, joined Soldier and had love in his life and died a tragic death? I don't know about you but imo 9/10 times people would say they were rooting for the underdog.

    Of course that doesn't mean I don't like Zack, I think he has an amazing character, upbeat and strong while being kind and gentle at the same time... but I personally think that Cloud is the better of the two.

    Quote Originally Posted by Shauna
    Anyway, I can't really comment since I've not played Crisis Core. :3 I'll get round to it.
    You really should, best game I've played on the PsP.
    Agreed, Crisis Core and BBS are probably the two best psp games. SE really won with the PSP
    Lol those 2 games are only games i have for psp xD .. that and Dissidia

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    Another point of interest:

    Being easy to relate to is an important quality for a protagonist. Zack is the protagonist of one game. Cloud is the protagonist of an entire compilation. Zack is given significantly less time to develop, and his character arc is already confined by the time his chance to be the protagonist comes along.

    Signposting the development of each character is a little harder than it seems because the changes aren't necessarily dramatic.

    Consider, for instance, that Cloud shifts his viewpoint after Tifa corners him in 7th Heaven. He changes again when he realises Shinra is after Aerith, and then becomes more determined once they have her and have smurfed over Sector 7. Once he realises Sephiroth is still alive, he changes again. All of this happens within like two hours game time, but the changes are slight.

    Cloud's in game arc is great, but that doesn't diminish the fact that Zack's is too. Both are characters that started somewhere and then ended up in a believable, necessary, and resonating place. I think it would be much easier to compare characters of similar positions -- Cloud v Squall or something -- than it is to compare these two who are actually the same person for a period of time.

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