Will Final Fantasy XV's Cid be a Lady?

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For the next two days I`ll be awkwardly typing on a tablet, so please forgive the lack of citations. If you want a citation I woul consider it a personal favor if you would try google first, but if you request a citation I will of course find one.

When, in a specific game and/or series, I feel the genders are sexualised and/or not sexualised to a reasonably equal degree (gender-wise), no, I don't care. If, such as in a game like Dead or Alive, we see it blatantly one-sided, I think it's bad. Doesn't mean I'm going to lose my trout, but I feel these games go too far. They're entitled to make these games and like yourself, I'm entitled to not buy them, but hey, whatever. Still, I can see the appeal of these games to people who are seeking titilation without the use of outright porn. I won't kick up a stink about it, but I'm happy to state my opinion on any particular game and/or series if I have one and feel like putting it out there. FF just happens to be a series close to my heart and if I feel people are overreacting, I'm just as happy - if not even happier, due to the series being something I'm fond of - to express my opinion on it.

I'll also note that when I feel they go too far, I still express an opinion against Final Fantasy - such as in the case of Fran, which I personally felt was ridiculous. But some people - interestingly often female - like that, so I wasn't going to make a huge fuss.

I appreciate the clarification.

Gladiolus. Tidus. Barret. Snow. Gadolt. Kuja (although personally I imagine that the majority of girls are more likely to find other characters sexier than Kuja, like Basch, because girls tend to prefer the feather to the whole damned chicken, which I personally agree with but hey, if you like the codpiece, power to you).

Aside from Gladiolus's open shirt, I have no idea why you'd consider these characters sexualized. Please be specific.

Keep in mind these objective facts: The oldest [human] female character is Lulu at 22 and oldest male is Strago at 70. At least 23FFIV Cid (54), Yang (35), Tellah (60), Edward (24), Fusoya (?), Edge (26), Galuf (60), Locke (25), Edgar (27), Sabin (27), Cyan (50), Strago (70), Setzer (27), Barrett (35), Vincent (27), Steiner (33), Amarant (26), Auron (35), Wakka (23), Basch (36), Sazh (40) playable male characters are older than 22-year-old Lulu; not counting temporarily playable characters over 22 (Laguna, Kiros, Ward, Seymour), characters of unknown age other than obviously elderly Fusoya (Shadow and Gogo), and non-humans 25-year-old Kimahri and 46-year-old Red.

I've acknowledged already that the age thing is something they can work on.[/quote]
What happened to "fair and equal"?

There are no non-humanoid female characters.

Freya. Unless you mean non-humanoid in a more loose term, in which case there's probably only been one non-humanoid ever, Red XIII. All the rest have two arms, two legs, a vertical torso, a neck, a head, etc.

I would call Freya humanoid but Can't With non-humanoid being that he's a cat.

To my knowledge, no male characters pose in a way designed specifically to expose their secondary sex characterstics.

It's a bit unfair as males don't have boobs or any kind of "secondary sex characteristics" I can think of according to society. We've just got the genitalia, which to my knowledge isn't exaggerated in either gender beyond that seen in Kuja.

Men have many secondary sex characteristics, they just aren't sexualized as women are. Women's bodies are sexualized to the point where women are being shamed out of feeding their babies and told that they need to cover their shoulders so as not to "distract the boys." The most noticable secondary sex characteristics on boys are increased muscle tone and widened shoulders, yet boys are not told to cover their shoulders or biceps to avoid distracting the boys, and a man can walk down the street without a shirt on freely. In some places women can be assaulted or killers for exposing something deemed sexualized to that culture, while many places will laugh at you for thinking boobs are sexy because they're "for babies." Where in the world is a man slut shamed for showing a body part?

I understand you get that inequality exists and that all of the above is bad, but you seem unwilling to apply that knowledge to the world as you live in it. Men are harder to sexualized simply because men, as a whole, are less sexualized.

Yes, I understand you feel women buying into this as well justifies the disparity. Both videos I posted address this briefly... We are socialized early and often that a female's value is her body. Do you believe women are somehow immune to socialization? This is not an issue with men; it's an issue with all of society.

I feel like I'll need to expand on how socialization leads both genders to sexualize/idealize/"appreciate" the female body, but I'll leave it at that for now.

...Aeris? >_>; But kidding aside, again, I don't think we can say much of this for anyone. Has sex ever actually been a thing in FF? Personally speaking, I think sexualised should include "being dressed inappropriately for ones role for the sake of gaining sexual appeal via physical attraction." If one of the above was meant to equate to that, it goes back to "is it sexy, is it relevant for what they do" and we're back to what we've been discussing earlier.

That last bit would refer to such things as Cidney working on cars in smurf me boots and Tifa kick boxing in a microskirt with her painfully large cans. It does mean people wearing clothes that don't make sense for the reason of appealing to someone else.

I'm troubled here because every single guy I can think of that is supposed to be sexually attractive appears to be muscular (and therefore powerful) because that is what is deemed to be sexy according to most females. So I could tell you Gladiolus, and you could say "No, he's strong, that's a power thing." And I don't know where to go from there because it's down to how you personally want to interpret it. The guy legitimately looks like a male model, to me at least.

Well apparently you think Barrett is dressed for the express purpose of arousing me, so you're right to not trust you judgment.

Really, I think before we can go much further, you need to send me examples of sexualised males (...probably better to do so via PM or something) so I can get a better understanding of your interpretation of what they should look like. I've grown up being told (by females) that male wrestlers in tiny pants was not something they found attractive, but I'm getting the impression that this is what you mean by sexualised, because I'm unsure what else it could be.

You're confusing exposed skin with sexualization. A skirt with a slit up the thigh is sexualized; a gymnist running toward a vaulting horse in her leotard is not sexualized, despite showing more leg.

Note that you're often dismissing examples because a hyper sexualized male seems ridiculous; this kind of proves the point--you said yourself that you don't even blink at hypersexualiuzed female character, yet this just looks silly:



...That's all I have time for; it's present opening time.