Brazilians and Argentines: are they considered Latinos?

[Pheesh]

I'm still pretty confused, but okay.

So what's the difference between Latino and Latinx? I'd never even heard of Latinx before this thread.

[Fynn]

It's the same, I just used that to be PC. Because in Spanish adjectives usually have an -o or -a ending to denote gender. Which is why people often use the term "Latin@s", but "Latinxs" is even more inclusive because it goes beyond the gender binary.

[Pheesh]

This thread is creating more questions than its answering for me. You earlier said that France was Latino because it was colonised by a Romance language speaking country, but I've never heard someone refer to it as such.

Also, if we're going back far enough then Hispania was colonised by Rome, meaning by your earlier definition that it IS Latino, despite you saying that it wasn't.

[Fynn]

No, I meant it was one of the countries that HAS colonized Latin America, and that Latin America is called such due to being colonized by countries using Romance languages. So France is definitely not a Latino country. Whether you count Guyana as a Latino country seems to be debatable, however.

[escobert]

If I've said anything culturally insensitive it's purely out of naivety, nothing is meant with any malice or even out to pigeon-hole people into specific groups. I was simply curious about some of the explanations brought up in this thread.

I was joking and wasn't referring to any one post or anything like that.

[noxious.sunshine]

Shrug.

My ex in Phoenix kind of hated the Latino/Hispanic labels. He preferred to be called Mexican.

He he even had a Pancho Villa shirt that said "I am Mexican. I am not Latino- Latinos are Anglos from Italy. I am not Hispanic- Hispanics are Anglos from Spain" or something. lol I know that's not right but yeah.

[Colonel Angus]

Latinos come from countries where Spanish is the main language. Brazil, Belize, Guyana & French Guinea aren't technically part of Latin America. Latinos can be of any race, whether it's black, white or indigenous.

Surely Spanish people are Hispanic though, right? Not Latino. Or or are they both?

Hispanic & Latino are the same thing. Hispanic is just archaic & not as acceptable. Kind of like Blacks not wanting to be labeled "colored".

I think Spaniards are considered Latino, but obviously not Latin American.

[Pheesh]

Latinos come from countries where Spanish is the main language. Brazil, Belize, Guyana & French Guinea aren't technically part of Latin America. Latinos can be of any race, whether it's black, white or indigenous.

Surely Spanish people are Hispanic though, right? Not Latino. Or or are they both?

Hispanic & Latino are the same thing. Hispanic is just archaic & not as acceptable. Kind of like Blacks not wanting to be labeled "colored".

Probably the clearest answer I've heard in this thread so far. Noted.

[Shiny]

Latinos come from countries where Spanish is the main language. Brazil, Belize, Guyana & French Guinea aren't technically part of Latin America. Latinos can be of any race, whether it's black, white or indigenous.

Surely Spanish people are Hispanic though, right? Not Latino. Or or are they both?

Hispanic & Latino are the same thing. Hispanic is just archaic & not as acceptable. Kind of like Blacks not wanting to be labeled "colored".

I think Spaniards are considered Latino, but obviously not Latin American.

No it isn't the same as blacks not being labeled as colored at all. Colored has a racist connotation and reverts back to segregation era. Hispanic refers to people of Spanish origins who are Spanish speaking. Latino refers to people from Latin America. A more clearer example of this is Jamaican people being called African-American. They'd prefer to be called Jamaican or black because African-American is completely wrong. Same for Haitian people I've come across.

EDIT: I just asked my Brazilian friend what he would prefer being called and he said Latino.

[Old Manus]

I just call them all South/Central American.

[SuperMillionaire]

I always knew that Spain was considered the original Hispanic country, since that was the country that conquered the majority of Latin America, with the exception of Brazil, which was conquered by Portugal, but that Spain was not Latino. Hispanic refers to language, while Latino refers to geography.

There's also a stereotype of Argentines believing themselves to be of pure European descent and identifying themselves less with other people from the other countries of Latin America.

[Loony BoB]

My understanding was always that Latin America is from Mexico and southwards to the continent of South America. It was also my understanding that Latino meant someone from this area of the world.

My understanding was also that Hispanic meant someone who has grown up in a Spanish speaking culture/nation.

[SuperMillionaire]

Thus, "Hispanic" would include Spain, but exclude Brazil, whereas "Latino" would exclude Spain, but include Brazil.

[black orb]

My understanding was always that Latin America is from Mexico and southwards to the continent of South America. It was also my understanding that Latino meant someone from this area of the world.

>>> This is correct.. And yeah, Brazilians and Argentines are considered latinos too..

[SuperMillionaire]

Belize is a country in Central America that was not colonized by Spain, and Guyana, Suriname, and French Guiana are three countries in South America that were also not colonized by Spain, and in the Caribbean, only three countries, Puerto Rico, Cuba, and the Dominican Republic, were colonized by Spain; the rest were colonized by other European countries. But Spain conquered the vast majority of Latin America, so I think it should be called Spanish America or Iberian America instead, if you want to include Brazil, which was colonized by Portugal, because Spain and Portugal together are referred to as the Iberian Peninsula.

As for Brazil and Argentina, Brazil is multiracial, but Argentina is predominately white.