Opinions on Zack Fair (probable SPOILERS)

[Fynn]

True. But the DMW falling apart gradually was actually pretty good, I have to admit.

[Sephiroth]

Well, there is such a thing prequels do which is answering questions no one ever asked.

What you think is not what everyone thinks.

[Midgar Mist]

The only issue I have with Zack, that has also been mentioned in this thread, is the ott death we got instead of the original pointless tragic death. I've never enjoyed the crazy defying gravity style fighting in any media as I think it's utterly ridiculous, but to take an already appropriate and touching death and turn it into one is just incredibly vexing.

Zack's OG's death : Quick, ruthless, incredibly unfair, realistic, tragic.

Zack's Crisis Core death : Zack is able to say his final words before he dies, unrealistic to the extreme, Zack floats up to heaven, cheesy J- Pop music plays in the background. Angeal grabs him into heaven. Is cheesier than a bag of cheesy nachos.

Well, that seals the deal. I'm never playing Crisis Core.

[Slothy]

I'd played crisis core but never actually bothered to beat it because holy crap that story's bad and after checking out the ending in YouTube right now... Jesus...

Exceeded my expectations for terrible somehow. I'll assume it's because I've simply forgotten just how bad the game was. The only decent part was the use of the DMW to try and tell the story through gameplay.

[Ffamran mied Bunansa]

I like Zack. He is one of my favorite FF7 characters. Though I may be biased in sharing a first name with him. I also actually liked Crisis Core and prefered his death there.

[Bright Shield]

Well, there is such a thing prequels do which is answering questions no one ever asked.

What you think is not what everyone thinks.

And as a fanboy of the garbage FFVII Compilation, and that piece of crap known as FFXIII; you speak for almost none of the fanbase.

[Shauna]

No need to make things personal. Let's not continue that.

[Mercer]

Zach was just an Agent of Soldier who was unfairly screwed over by Shinra. In the original game, it took 2 or 3 soldiers to gun him down, making his strengths as a character underestimated. In Crisis Core, it took almost half an army to kill him off which was contradictory to the FF7. All in all, he was a great character that filled in some gaps of back story in the original game and set the stage for Cloud.

[Sephiroth]

Zach was just an Agent of Soldier who was unfairly screwed over by Shinra. In the original game, it took 2 or 3 soldiers to gun him down, making his strengths as a character underestimated. In Crisis Core, it took almost half an army to kill him off which was contradictory to the FF7. All in all, he was a great character that filled in some gaps of back story in the original game and set the stage for Cloud.

It is not contradictory when you fill a blank space that just was not shown. Only slight alterations.

Zack's a standard shounen protagonist, Cloud's much more interesting. Definitely on the "only original game is canon" philosophy side, I dislike the retcons in the later releases. They miss the tone of the original, often wildly.

It is not up to you to decide what is canonical though. And Shield, if you'd just have read what I said you would have known that you are wrong. "Blank space" and "slight alterations" says it all.

[Bright Shield]

Zach was just an Agent of Soldier who was unfairly screwed over by Shinra. In the original game, it took 2 or 3 soldiers to gun him down, making his strengths as a character underestimated. In Crisis Core, it took almost half an army to kill him off which was contradictory to the FF7. All in all, he was a great character that filled in some gaps of back story in the original game and set the stage for Cloud.

It is not contradictory when you fill a blank space that just was not shown. Only slight alterations.

Careful. Your blind fanboy card is showing again.

It was completely contradictory to the original scene. There was no army, and Zack was dead before Cloud went over to him. There was no final goodbye.

Stop defending this crappy writing. The reactor scene is always contradicted to ridiculous levels as well.

Edit: And stop crying to me in private messages please. If you have something to say; say it here. I'm sure we'd all like to hear it.

[Psychotic]

No, this stops now. If you want to debate the actual topic of the thread by all means have at it, but any more posts with personal attacks are going to end up deleted without any further warning.

[Kalevala]

inb4 Zack is resurrected in the remake by a red... mage.

[Galuf]

i think Zack is pretty cool.
i may be weird that i prefer the CC death over the original. since the original was boring.
but yeah he is a nice dude

[Bright Shield]

No, this stops now. If you want to debate the actual topic of the thread by all means have at it, but any more posts with personal attacks are going to end up deleted without any further warning.

That's my bad. I was being unnecessarily hostile. Sorry everyone, especially Sephiroth. Insults are simply unacceptable.

[Saber]

I prefer Crisis Cores death over the original. I actually like the original for the truck ride they got on the way to Midgar better too. In the end I take it all as a whole. Last Order and Crisis Core have Zack defeating many people on the way to saving Cloud. The fact was really nerve breaking if they decided to "save" Zack if you did a certain side quest was really bringing me down. However there is no way and the story is solid. Sure Genesis makes a bad appearance in the reactor. They just wanted to add him as more of a villain that way.

I still like Zack.