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Thread: Game of Thrones: House of the Dragon!

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    I'm not saying Jon is completely innocent by any stretch. His actions have indeed caused deaths. Uniting Northerners with the Wildlings though I don't think was possible without parties on either side dying. He definitely could have made better choices though and even admits that himself.

    Theon: "Every step you take is the right step."
    Jon: "It's not. It may seem that way from the outside, but I promise you, it's not true. I've done plenty of things that I regret.
    Theon: "Not compared to me, you haven't."
    Jon: "No, not compared to you."

    He's as close to 'good' as you're going to get with this show though and far from evil.
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    As close to good?

    Brienne, Pod, and Davos would like a word.
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    When you miss out on the giant tits story.


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    Dude, I bet Tormund and Robin are gonna have so much to talk about when they finally meet.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jinx View Post
    As close to good?

    Brienne, Pod, and Davos would like a word.
    Considering how much Jon has been responsible for, absolutely. You can't really compare to three characters who for the majority have either been a) following orders or b) pledging their sword and loyalty to anyone who stood still long enough.

    I do love all of them though

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    On the good and evil front, what is fascinating to me, though the show may not have enough time to explore it, is that GRRM was trying his best to expose and subvert all of the black and white character tropes that usually pop up in fantasy. The show has essentially done that with every main character though it does feel like the endgame is now building Jon up to be the reluctant king in the Aragorn vein. It almost feels too perfect which leads me to believe there is still one final twist of the knife to come.

    Most every other surviving main character has gone through an arc:

    Tyrion (Clever but overlooked to respected)
    Dany (A child bride to a conquerer to possibly a tyrant)
    Sansa (Naive to steely)
    Jaime (Arrogant to humbled)
    Theon (Same but to an even larger degree)
    Bran (Though his remains the most mysterious arc)
    Arya (Somewhat innocent to killer)
    Sandor (Killer to a conscience)
    Sam (Coward to Brave)
    Cersei (Though hers is a bit harder to gauge. Her arc is she went from a pawn to becoming the most ruthless character on the show)

    Yet Jon Snow started out honorable and has remained so throughout. He did of course (Several year spoiler) die for his honor but since coming back, seems more or less the same guy, though maybe a little more reluctant. About the only outcomes I would see that would work to subvert his character trope is to have him die again before achieving victory, to have him switch sides or to have him win but at such a cost that there is nothing left to rule. I'm very curious if the show is able to give him more shades of grey in the remaining episodes.

    Take care all.

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    this behind the scenes of the last episode is great!


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    I hope I can one day catch up to this show soon. My wife doesn’t like the show, so I never even saw the last season. Not that she really stops me from watching, but it would be easier to find a chance to watch if she’d watch with me. Wouldn’t be as bad if the books were finished.

    I am interested in seeing how I’ll feel about Theon when I watch. I feel like he’d be hard to redeem, but it sounds like they are swaying a good number of viewers to somewhat forgive him. Alfie Allen does some fantastic work with his character.

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    I'm sweating bullets for Ghost.

    I love wolves, and this show has a really bad problem of reminding you direwolves exist right before killing them or making them disappear forever.

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    And they like to symbolically kill them when a character "stops" being a Stark e.g. Sansa selling out her family on the Kingsroad and Bran becoming the Three Eyed Raven. Rise, Aegon Targaryen...

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    If that's the case, surely Arya's direwolf would have died when she declared herself no one. I know in her heart she's still a Stark, but so is Jon - and by blood, too, even if not by name.
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    I am convinced Tormund will not die. I was thinking about it and there are like NO wildlings left. He's kind of the last representation of them so if they kill him, they have no wildling representation. So I think he'll live.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Freya View Post
    I am convinced Tormund will not die. I was thinking about it and there are like NO wildlings left. He's kind of the last representation of them so if they kill him, they have no wildling representation. So I think he'll live.
    He has to... and Brienne.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Freya View Post
    I am convinced Tormund will not die. I was thinking about it and there are like NO wildlings left. He's kind of the last representation of them so if they kill him, they have no wildling representation. So I think he'll live.
    Yeah, the Dothraki are about to get decimated because of this. We don't really have a known Dothraki representative. Also, it's cold af.
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