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    The truths so far, in order of reveal:

    Mr. Carnelian
    Three players are capable of screwing with the narrative writeups.

    I think that this where I got the three witches thing from, on reflection. But, it doesn't actually say anything about witches. This is my least favourite truth so far, because it's so goddamn vague. Honestly, I wouldn't blame you for thinking that this might be a fake rule. Hopefully this one will become clearer after we've seen the first writeup.

    Pumpkin
    One of the Human Aligned players is actually "Cynical Human Aligned", also known as the "Cynic". They have the goal of a Witch Aligned player and are treated as a Witch Aligned player for everyone else's goals.

    This is the most Karifean-sounding rule ever. If you are mafia, props for nailing his style. As for what it means, sounds like they're basically an extra witch, except they might not show up as witch if the cop-equivalent investigates them, assuming of course that the cop-equivalent can only see witch/non-witch alignment.

    Formalhaut
    When a player dies, they covertly appoint a "Family Alchemist" (taking the title from the previous Alchemist if one exists). The Family Alchemist resolves ties during daytime voting.

    I've given my take on this already, but here it is again: Formy's rule sounds to me like if there's a tie, whoever has been appointed the Alchemist gets to PM Karifean to resolve a draw, rather than there being a sudden death. Guess we'll see if it's true if we get a draw and it goes to sudden death rather than being resolved through alchemist ruling.

    FFNUT
    One Human Player is the Village Idiot. This player will receive a night move but it will always backfire on them.

    Sounds plausible. More Karifean-style shenanigans.

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    I'm intrigued to learn what Scruffs is now!

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    Me too. The more truths we have, the more certain we can be that most are them are TRUE, rather than witch lies.

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    I'm inclined to believe Mr. Carnelian's because of how narrative focused Karifean is in his games, which totally makes sense with the Umineko theme.

    I trust mine as well because I'm pretty but also because that seems to suit the narrative and chicanery of the secret rules.

    The other two I am very torn on. The alchemist one seems oddly phrased and vague, which leads me to believe Formy wouldn't make it up because he could come up with something more convincing. On the other hand, I don't know how well it fits in the narrative? I remember in the Umineko chapters I read that they had after death scenes, which could indicate that a character can influence events after their deaths. Hmm.

    The last one also seems like a mafia-esq rule but I don't know how it would fit the characters of the narrative? Could just be made up for the game, not everything is consistent with the stories I would assume. Part of me wants it to be fake because I don't want end up being the village idiot and then all of my stuff backfires on me

    Those are just my thoughts, I'm really unsure about all of this~

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    Assuming two to three witches, potentially over half of the truths so far revealed could be witch lies. The more people speak up, the lower the ratio of witch lies goes, the better handle we have on the hidden rules.

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    Is Pumkin saying she has a night move?

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    Karifean said there are no vanillas so I assumed everyone had a night move

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    Ok I must of missed that. I just assumed there would be Vanillia players.

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    READ THE RULES FFNUT GEEZ

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    Wow, Nutty is definitely Mafia. 100% confirmed.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Formalhaut View Post
    Wow, Nutty is definitely Mafia. 100% confirmed.
    I am? How did you come to that finger point.

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    Formy's one can be tested, if we all agree to do a "draw" vote. If that then goes to sudden death, we'll know that Formy is lying and is therefore a witch.

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    I guess the problem would be getting everyone to agree to that, huh?

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    From what I understand, EVERYONE has a night move/ability. Also, fairly sure Formy was being jokey.

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    The issue there is unless someone has been assigned it right away there wouldn't be one to begin with.

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