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Laddy
05-17-2007, 01:11 AM
The Arrow
The Medical Cross thingy, I forgot what it was called.

Moon Rabbits
05-17-2007, 01:37 AM
The Arrow
The Medical Cross thingy, I forgot what it was called.

The Staff.

Kirobaito
05-17-2007, 07:10 AM
The end of this season has been, in my opinion, the best that Lost has offered. I can't wait for next week. It's gonna be incredible.

Moon Rabbits
05-18-2007, 12:42 AM
Yes, I agree with Kirobaito, I've been getting consistently more excited for the finale with every episode.

And this one, oh my god, it was beautiful. It set up everything so perfectly. When Carl (Karl?) came running up the beach and was all "they're coming right now!" I was all "yesss."

Also, when Carl rats Juliette out, and she replies "They know already, but thanks, Carl." was priceless. Also, when Carl pulls out the gun, Hurley's reaction was great.

Laddy
05-18-2007, 02:36 AM
I agree as well, the episode was beautiful and has defined Lost. I can't wait for the finale! Oh, and it stars Jack, ugh, nothing personal, but I'm sick of his episodes.

Moon Rabbits
05-18-2007, 04:11 AM
I'm not really interested in Jack's back story, either. I like Claire's quite a bit, actually, especially with her whole dead mother business.

I think it'd be cool if the finale was Naomi instead, just because I don't want to wait until season 4 to see what she did after Sayid saved her. But I guess that wouldn't really fit in with what is going on and Jack's whole hero stuff.

Also, did anyone else notice a very strong similarity between Rousseau and the two Looking Glass girls' clothes? Coincidence? Maybe, maybe not :eek:

Kirobaito
05-18-2007, 04:26 AM
I'm not really interested in Jack's back story, either. I like Claire's quite a bit, actually, especially with her whole dead mother business.

I think it'd be cool if the finale was Naomi instead, just because I don't want to wait until season 4 to see what she did after Sayid saved her. But I guess that wouldn't really fit in with what is going on and Jack's whole hero stuff.

Also, did anyone else notice a very strong similarity between Rousseau and the two Looking Glass girls' clothes? Coincidence? Maybe, maybe not :eek:
I noticed that, too, but at this point I'm going with coincidence.

I also tend to think that Naomi will die next episode... but that's just a suspicion.

Moon Rabbits
05-18-2007, 04:33 AM
I'm not really interested in Jack's back story, either. I like Claire's quite a bit, actually, especially with her whole dead mother business.

I think it'd be cool if the finale was Naomi instead, just because I don't want to wait until season 4 to see what she did after Sayid saved her. But I guess that wouldn't really fit in with what is going on and Jack's whole hero stuff.

Also, did anyone else notice a very strong similarity between Rousseau and the two Looking Glass girls' clothes? Coincidence? Maybe, maybe not :eek:
I noticed that, too, but at this point I'm going with coincidence.

I also tend to think that Naomi will die next episode... but that's just a suspicion.

I hope she does (despite that contradicting what I said before), because I've been a RousseauxSayid shipper since the start.

Levian
05-18-2007, 12:26 PM
Oh my god why is a week 7 days I can't wait this long D:

McLovin'
05-18-2007, 03:29 PM
What a lovely episode.

rikkugurl13
05-19-2007, 08:21 PM
The end of this season has been, in my opinion, the best that Lost has offered. I can't wait for next week. It's gonna be incredible.
LOST IS OVER?Seriously?what happened on Wednesday May 16?I missed it.please tell me.:(I bet my mom watched it.We watch it every Wednesday.or when ever we remember witch is pretty much every Wednesday.

Kirobaito
05-19-2007, 08:49 PM
The end of this season has been, in my opinion, the best that Lost has offered. I can't wait for next week. It's gonna be incredible.
LOST IS OVER?Seriously?what happened on Wednesday May 16?I missed it.please tell me.:(I bet my mom watched it.We watch it every Wednesday.or when ever we remember witch is pretty much every Wednesday.
You can watch episodes on abc.com.

Del Murder
05-20-2007, 03:46 AM
I also agree with KB that this has been the best recently. On par with Season 1 stuff. I'm really happy that the writers and producers came through and delivered after that really subpar 'pre-season'.

This most recent episode had everything. I thought it was going in one direction the whole episode and then it went in another, and it was awesome (because I don't want Charlie to die, he's interesting).

*ETERNAL FANTASY*
05-20-2007, 04:40 AM
Yeah the direction they took with Charlie's character is intersting...what a cool episode though and the flashbacks were used quite effectively! I could forgive them for the crappy episode that was "fire and water" back in season 2! All in All though Lost is definately back, apparently theres a good twist in the season finale!!

Madame Adequate
05-20-2007, 11:36 AM
See now. Those of us who kept the faith were proven right - Lost still has it. They were just keeping it in reserve.

That was an awesome episode, seriously the best I can remember for ages.

The spoiler is about Desmond's flashes. Or rather, his lack of them. Did anyone else think it weird that we viewers didn't actually see what he saw? I think he didn't see Charlie drown, but he did know Charlie needed to go down there and that he wouldn't if he knew the real reason. Whatever that might be.

Leeza
05-20-2007, 04:32 PM
The end of this season has been, in my opinion, the best that Lost has offered. I can't wait for next week. It's gonna be incredible.
LOST IS OVER?Seriously?what happened on Wednesday May 16?I missed it.please tell me.:(I bet my mom watched it.We watch it every Wednesday.or when ever we remember witch is pretty much every Wednesday.
You can watch episodes on abc.com.
Not if you're Canadian. They show them only to Americans. I had to download two episodes from Limewire and they always come in as being upside down and reversed. Not the best way to watch them even if you turn your screen sideways.

I loved the last episode and I do not want Charlie to die so I'm glad to see that he's still alive. I really want to know how Locke makes out though.

Del Murder
05-20-2007, 05:54 PM
Try this site Leeza: TV Links (http://www.tv-links.co.uk/)

Leeza
05-20-2007, 06:42 PM
OMG! Thank you, Tony. :)

Roto13
05-20-2007, 06:49 PM
If I miss an episode, I download it from a torrent site. It's a big show, so it's not difficult to find. :)

I'm so happy I got to see this episode, though! I was in the air all day and I actually got to see it on the plane. I thought I was going to miss it. That was a great episode, too. I'm glad Charlie didn't die. He really didn't have to hit Desmond, though. :P He could have just said no or something.

Croyles
05-20-2007, 07:50 PM
Yay I am finally interested in this show again. I really thought id give it up after the start of Season 3, but I just watched like 12 episodes in a row and they are getting really good.

I cannot wait that long for Season 4, especially after the major cliffhanger that is to come.

Laddy
05-20-2007, 11:30 PM
I cried with my mom on the phone during last episode. I'm a weepy bastard.

rikkugurl13
05-21-2007, 01:10 AM
Thank you so much!!!!:D

Laddy
05-21-2007, 04:53 PM
I'm ripping my hair out of excitement.

JackNapier
05-24-2007, 01:35 AM
Oh....dear.....god. That was amazing! My jaw is still loose. I'm going to go insane waiting for season 4.

Kirobaito
05-24-2007, 03:32 AM
What Sayid just did to that guy is the coolest LOST death ever.

Moon Rabbits
05-24-2007, 04:23 AM
I MISSED IT.

Ichimonji
05-24-2007, 04:57 AM
I really like the direction this show is going. I haven't been this excited for a new Lost season ever. I'm going to put the rest in spoilers for now...

It's either going to about off the island with flashbacks on the island, or it's going to be about how they get off the island with flashforwards of after the rescue. Third option is that some are off, and some are on. In any case, I'm happy to see things about what happens after the Island events, and I'm hoping that they continue that line of story. (Because as much as I like the island, this is much more interesting for me.)

But yeah, who's funeral was it? And is Kate still with James? I also want to learn more about Jack now that he's a friggen wreck.

Levian
05-24-2007, 02:03 PM
In the first few seconds of this episode I was all like "oh my god, Jacob was on the plane!" and then I realized it was Jack. :laugh:

Flying Mullet
05-24-2007, 02:05 PM
It's either going to about off the island with flashbacks on the island, or it's going to be about how they get off the island with flashforwards of after the rescue. Third option is that some are off, and some are on.
My wife had an interesting different take on it. She always assumed that a flashback was someone remembering their past while they are on the island, whereas I thought the flashbacks were insterted to parallel with the story for the viewers "benefit" of what each character's backstory is. Since my wife viewed the flashbacks as happening in the characters minds in real-time, she thought the island was trying to show Jack what would happen if he got everyone off the island by contacting the boat to try and dissuade him from establishing contact with the boat.

In the first few seconds of this episode I was all like "oh my god, Jacob was on the plane!" and then I realized it was Jack. :laugh:
Well that's just silly. Everyone knows Jacob doesn't travel in planes, he has Ben give him piggyback rides wherever he needs to go. Why else would he contact Ben?

Zante
05-24-2007, 02:14 PM
Charlie's death was stupid imho. He already switched the jammer off, so there was no reason why he couldn't have fled with Desmond... Or he could have locked the door from the outside... Or he could escape though the hole Mikhail made... Him chosing to die just makes no sense. :cry:

Flying Mullet
05-24-2007, 02:20 PM
Charlie's death was stupid imho. He already switched the jammer off, so there was no reason why he couldn't have fled with Desmond... Or he could have locked the door from the outside... Or he could escape though the hole Mikhail made... Him chosing to die just makes no sense. :cry:
I said the same thing myself about why didn't he close the room from the outside. My wife says that the window was too small for him to swim out of, but I don't know...

Namelessfengir
05-24-2007, 03:45 PM
that does suck claire never got charlie's ring and the port hole was only wide enough for his head to fit through

and what was with jack? was he that high that he thought that his dad was still alive and who's funeral was that?

Flying Mullet
05-24-2007, 03:55 PM
was he that high that he thought that his dad was still alive...?
Looks like it. I imagine that's why the new chief wanted to help him because he's having a hard time fitting back into the "real world".

Levian
05-24-2007, 04:09 PM
when he was at the coffin he described himself as not friend or family, so it has to be either someone he was never a friend with (Ben?), someone who was his friend but betrayed him (Michael? Could be anyone really, show's not over), or someone we've yet to meet in the next seasons.

McLovin'
05-24-2007, 05:07 PM
Stop putting this in spoilers!

If you missed the finale (or any other episode actually) or something I can give you a streamed link that I have stored.

And wow what a finale. No Lost till next Jan or Feb. But this is weird...the show will now take place off island I guess?

Perhaps a Final Destination thing will happen and all the characters will go on a plane again and they will ALL be on it and it will crash again.

Still many questions. Why isn't Kate still on the run? The flash forward takes place well after 2006 because Jack's phone is a motorlla model that was released in 2006.

you want to know why Charlie let himself die? Charlie accepts that his death is inevitable in order to save the other survivors and dies willingly to fulfil Desmond's prediction rather than attempting to beat death another time. Understand?

And what the hell...Christian is alive? Also didn't Naomi say that the bodies were FOUND. So how did they explain that to the public!?

Lost is making me mad!

Moon Rabbits
05-24-2007, 07:18 PM
I loved this episode. Oh my god, TV-Links I love you.

Kso the flashbacks Jack was having were actually flashing forward in time, this was a stroke of genius. At least I think so. When it turned out it was Kate he called, and not Sarah, I was like DAAAAAAAAMN SON.



And what the hell...Christian is alive? Also didn't Naomi say that the bodies were FOUND. So how did they explain that to the public!?

I don't think Christian is alive, I think Jack has gone insane, or mildly. Also, the plane being discovered was totally a conspiracy.

ALSO, WTF @ Penny not knowing who Naomi was. I thought of that as soon as I saw Penny on the transmission thing with Charlie though. Or maybe Naomi is using a different name, or something. I don't know, but it was cool. When Charlie was writing on his hand I was hoping it would be something cliche like "TELL CLAIRE I LOVE HER" and I woulda been like Awwwww.

I hope they continue with the flashforwards instead of flashbacks, because everyone has had their stories fleshed out pretty well. It would be really cool, because I definitely don't think they're going to get off of the island in the fourth season, and if they had flashforwards then they could do some really cool stuff and make the two stories meet up with eachother or something. If that makes sense?

first Season = good, second season = mediocre at best, third season = okay at the beginning, amazing by the end.

Flying Mullet
05-24-2007, 07:24 PM
I love the idea of three seasons of flashbacks meeting three seasons of flashforwards in season six.

Just like how Locke's story of how he got in the wheelchair was interesting, flashforwards should give us several more stories like this of how certain things happened after they got back as we work back to when they were rescued. Like who is in the coffin, then how they got in the coffin, etc...

Dreddz
05-24-2007, 07:53 PM
That had to be one of the coolest neck snaps ive ever seen!!

Croyles
05-24-2007, 08:30 PM
Damn now im excited for the next season!
Theres no way they are getting off the island this soon.
Ben was probably right (forget for a minute that he's annoying and the actor kinda sucks too, and that a character with so little charisma can still manipulate so many people) that they shouldnt get off the island yet. The writers have definitely set it up so Ben does have a masterplan in the end, however unethically carried out.

Kirobaito
05-24-2007, 08:32 PM
OK, first off: Christian is dead. It really annoys me to see people say that he is alive. Jack was on Oxycontin and wasn't thinking straight. There's a reason Dr. Hamill looked at him like he was an idiot, and why Jack told the pharmacist not to call. The producers have said, time and time again, that he is DEAD. DECEASED.

Secondly, Naomi is with the Dharma Initiative, returning to the Island to fight back against the Others. The Dharma Initiative is now funded by Charles Widmore, Penny's father. They CAN'T be rescued yet. There are still mysteries to be discovered, like the deal with Richard (who I can't imagine will be opposed to the Losties now... it was really only Ben who hated them), the "Temple", the four-toed statue, etc.

Thirdly, the newspaper article says that "J[fold in the paper]...antham of New York was found dead shortly after 4 AM.... Grand Avenue." It's not Michael, because Walt and his ex-wife would be at the funeral. Unless Walt is on the Island with Locke. It's not Locke either, because Helen would be there. I imagine it's either Ben, using a fake name, or perhaps Jacob himself.

Fourthly, whoever got off the island was paid off to lie about what happened. I have no other details, but that's why Jack said that he no longer wanted to lie. I think that, in exchange for keeping her mouth shut, some rich folks bought Kate a new life, perhaps taking the identity of Joanna, the woman who drowned in season one.


Ben was probably right (forget for a minute that he's annoying and the actor kinda sucks too, and that a character with so little charisma can still manipulate so many people) that they shouldnt get off the island yet. The writers have definitely set it up so Ben does have a masterplan in the end, however unethically carried out.
Michael Emerson as Ben is CARRYING Lost right now. The role has been carried out superbly.

Croyles
05-24-2007, 08:43 PM
Michael Emerson as Ben is CARRYING Lost right now. The role has been carried out superbly.

To each his own, I dont like the way he does his acting in Lost. I dont know him from anything else, so cant judge him on that.

Flying Mullet
05-24-2007, 08:55 PM
Ben was probably right (forget for a minute that he's annoying and the actor kinda sucks too, and that a character with so little charisma can still manipulate so many people) that they shouldnt get off the island yet. The writers have definitely set it up so Ben does have a masterplan in the end, however unethically carried out.
Michael Emerson as Ben is CARRYING Lost right now. The role has been carried out superbly.
In an interview Michael Emerson talked about how his character works as a villian on the show since a lot of American viewers find his character evil because an intelligent, sophisticated and educated man is viewed as creepy and wierd in the US(i.e. Hannibal Lecter), whereas the character would not work as a villian in other parts of the world as well because the type of character he has is more accepted and "normal".

Moon Rabbits
05-24-2007, 09:08 PM
I agree with everything Kirobaito said. Except the Oxy Contin thing; Jack has just gone insane or something. You'd have to be on <i>a lot</i> more Oxy Contin than Jack was to think your dead father was back alive.

Also, Michael Emerson is a great actor, I think. Although I did not like him in Saw, he is expertly creepy and strange in Lost.


In an interview Michael Emerson talked about how his character works as a villian on the show since a lot of American viewers find his character evil because an intelligent, sophisticated and educated man is viewed as creepy and wierd in the US(i.e. Hannibal Lecter), whereas the character would not work as a villian in other parts of the world as well because the type of character he has is more accepted and "normal".

I think Ben works outside of America as a villain, as well. He's evidently crazy, ruthless, remorseless, and knows how to fuck with people's minds. It's wonderful!

Croyles
05-24-2007, 09:22 PM
He's evidently crazy, ruthless, remorseless, and knows how to smurf with people's minds. It's wonderful!

Which I hope is not a trait that people associate with us, thanks... :rolleyes2

Flying Mullet
05-24-2007, 09:38 PM
I agree with everything Kirobaito said. Except the Oxy Contin thing; Jack has just gone insane or something. You'd have to be on <i>a lot</i> more Oxy Contin than Jack was to think your dead father was back alive.
<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oxycodone">Oxycodone entry in Wikipedia:</a>

Oxycodone has similar effects to morphine and heroin, and appeals to the same abuse community. Armed robberies of pharmacies where the robber demanded only OxyContin, not cash, have occurred. In some areas, particularly the eastern U.S., OxyContin has been the drug of greatest concern to enforcement authorities, although trustworthy data on the actual incidence of "Oxy abuse" have been difficult to establish.

*ETERNAL FANTASY*
05-25-2007, 12:29 AM
omg what a friggen awesome finale! It had everything

Hurely running over someone with the van....genius! I dont know why by ive never laughed so hard when someone died! Oh and Sayids leg snap...awesome lol! It was a pretty damn bloodybath in the finale! Charlie had an awesome death btw!

I had a little inkling with that little twist, but yea they never really resolved fully the whole Christian thing!

either way Evangelline Lilly stilled looked hot island and post lsland flashback!

and finally Februrary? seriously? we have to wait till February!?

Moon Rabbits
05-25-2007, 03:39 AM
I agree with everything Kirobaito said. Except the Oxy Contin thing; Jack has just gone insane or something. You'd have to be on <i>a lot</i> more Oxy Contin than Jack was to think your dead father was back alive.
<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oxycodone">Oxycodone entry in Wikipedia:</a>

Oxycodone has similar effects to morphine and heroin, and appeals to the same abuse community. Armed robberies of pharmacies where the robber demanded only OxyContin, not cash, have occurred. In some areas, particularly the eastern U.S., OxyContin has been the drug of greatest concern to enforcement authorities, although trustworthy data on the actual incidence of "Oxy abuse" have been difficult to establish.

Still, if your father is dead, Oxy Contin is an opiate and would not make you think he is alive. It's just not that kind of drug, a strong enough dose of a psychedelic might do that though.

Kirobaito
05-25-2007, 03:43 AM
I don't think that Jack thought his dad was alive - I think he wasn't thinking right as a result of the Oxycodone (and alcohol, I'm sure) and was rambling on and on about his own condition - "as bad as you think I ammmmmmmmmm, he's worse!" kinda thing. Because he's dead.

And plus, it threw off some people about it being a flashforward, I'm sure.

Miriel
05-25-2007, 05:09 AM
I had a feeling it was a flash forward since the beginning of the episode. And I didn't read any spoilers or anything. :o

It was pretty cool that they did that. I liked the ending scene with Kate.

It's kind of bad for a show that when a main character "dies" that I don't believe it. Ever. This is the same thing that happened with Alias, and it just ruins it when a character actually does die.

Charlie's death scene didn't impact me AT ALL because I just assumed that they would find a way to make the character alive again. CPR or something. Tons of people come back to life or have fake deaths in this show (just like Alias!). So yeah, not much impact.

And it was only after checking a few sources online that I discovered that this character is actually really DEAD. And now I feel annoyed because I didn't get to appreciate that poignant ending. I thought it was sappy to trick audiences, but now I've learned that it was sappy because it was an ACTUAL goodbye to a character. Errrrggghhhh. I feel very unsatisfied. :( Audiences should be able to have faith in a show that a death is a death. Lost utilizes way too many fake-outs and cop-outs. Makes the show untrustworthy. You shouldn't have to look online to verify a death.

As for the Finale, it was pretty great. But I'm wondering where Lost can go from here. If we take the flash fowards at face value, that means that a whole bunch of theories have just been knocked out. Especially one that I've always found very intriguing.

The Island is a real place. They CAN be rescued from it. So what the heck is it? Hmm.

Del Murder
05-25-2007, 05:11 AM
I thought the flashback was going to be the story of how Jack shaved his beard. I'm glad it wasn't. I think the funeral was for Juliet.

I love how Eyepatch keeps coming back to life. This better continue.

Kirobaito
05-25-2007, 05:21 AM
I thought the flashback was going to be the story of how Jack shaved his beard. I'm glad it wasn't. I think the funeral was for Juliet.

I love how Eyepatch keeps coming back to life. This better continue.
Juliet is a good idea, but the newspaper article that Jack reads says it was a man.

Del Murder
05-25-2007, 05:58 AM
Juliet...is a man.

Kirobaito
05-25-2007, 06:23 AM
Fair enough.

*ETERNAL FANTASY*
05-25-2007, 10:46 AM
It's kind of bad for a show that when a main character "dies" that I don't believe it. Ever. This is the same thing that happened with Alias, and it just ruins it when a character actually does die.

Charlie's death scene didn't impact me AT ALL because I just assumed that they would find a way to make the character alive again. CPR or something. Tons of people come back to life or have fake deaths in this show (just like Alias!). So yeah, not much impact.

And it was only after checking a few sources online that I discovered that this character is actually really DEAD. And now I feel annoyed because I didn't get to appreciate that poignant ending. I thought it was sappy to trick audiences, but now I've learned that it was sappy because it was an ACTUAL goodbye to a character. Errrrggghhhh. I feel very unsatisfied. :( Audiences should be able to have faith in a show that a death is a death. Lost utilizes way too many fake-outs and cop-outs. Makes the show untrustworthy. You shouldn't have to look online to verify a death.

.

Seriously...that person had their redepmtion flashback a few episodes ago he had his goodbye/ farewell/ appreciate/redemption episode on "charlies greatest hits" you had their good bye episode!

lol its like a lose lose situation if that person actually lived or died lol

that persons death was better like say shannon though you gotta admit he proved himself in the last two eps and if you didnt see that then thats pretty unfortunate

ps. Alias had Rambaldi lol the losties have no chance

Sergeant Hartman
05-25-2007, 11:32 AM
Damn these spoilers :mad:

McLovin'
05-25-2007, 05:30 PM
The best damn Lost theory (http://theoriesonlost.blogspot.com/2007/05/great-gedanken-experiment-tale-of-time.html)

Great theory on Lost and stuff. Rational explanations and the like. Read the comments for some extra tid-bits if you want.

Del Murder
05-25-2007, 09:15 PM
That theory goes out the window with the finale I think, but it is interesting.

As said, the finale really limits what the island could be.

Kirobaito
05-26-2007, 02:24 AM
That's a very impressive and well put-together theory, but I think it has its holes, some of which were mentioned in the comments. Also, I think that Cuse and Lindelof have said that it's not time travel.

Laddy
05-26-2007, 03:31 PM
Maybe a gateway between dimensions are on the island?

Formalhaut
05-26-2007, 05:32 PM
lost is dead, they killed to many Characters. 8 in total.

They have killed:

Boone :(:(:(:(:(
Ana lucia Cortez :mad2::mad2::mad2::mad2::mad2:
Mr.Eko :cry::cry::cry::cry::cry:
Nikki Fernandez :eek::eek::eek::eek::eek:
Libby :mad2::mad2::mad2::mad2::mad2:
Shannon Rutherford :cry::cry::cry::cry::cry:
Paulo :(:(:(:(:(

CHARLIE PACE!!!!!!!!!!:mad2::mad2::mad2::mad2::mad2::cry::cry::cry::cry::cry::(:(:(:(:(:eek::eek::eek::eek:: eek:

Its just wrong. Who are they gonna kill off next, Jack? Locke? kate? Pfft.

Del Murder
05-26-2007, 06:43 PM
When an actor doesn't want to do the show anymore, what the hell are they going to do? They can't force them. That takes care of Charlie and Eko. The rest of those characters suck.

Dreddz
05-26-2007, 06:48 PM
I think Ana Lucia and Libby were actually killed off because the actresses portaying them got into trouble with the law and the shows creators didnt want them assosiated with the show anymore.

Cuchulainn
05-26-2007, 06:51 PM
Well I think it is widely understood that the actors of Ana Lucia & Libby were kicked off the show for off-camera reasons so their characters HAD to die (I believe it was a drink driving issue, fear of prison term).

Nikki & Paolo had not even started character developing so they won't exactly be missed.

Charlie, as likeable as he is, was going nowhere in character development, very much like his girlfriend. His death was fine by me (I also think the actor wanted out).


The only issue I had was withg Mr Eko. I feel he had a LOT more to offer to the show & was killed off too soon.

Del Murder
05-26-2007, 06:52 PM
The creators have denied that Libby and Ana weren't killed off for these reasons, but that could just be a line.

Formalhaut
05-26-2007, 08:27 PM
Taken from Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia.

Boone Carlyle (1st Character to die)
Boone and Locke discover a heroin runner's beechcraft stuck high in a tree canopy. Boone climbs up into the aircraft and finds a working radio in the cockpit, which he uses to transmit a mayday signal. He receives a response to his message by a man, later revealed to be Bernard ("The other 48 days"), but the aircraft unbalances and falls nose-first to the ground. Boone sustains severe injuries and, despite Jack’s extensive attempts to treat him, dies in "Do no harm." His last words are "Tell Shannon..." but he dies before he can finish the sentence.


Boone is buried in "The greater good". Sayid speaks at his funeral, but Shannon does not. Shannon, who is on the search for Walt, is led to Boone's grave by Vincent in "Abandoned". She sits at his grave one final time before she is accidentally killed by Ana lucia Cortez.
In "Further instructions", Locke experiences a self-induced hallucination, where Boone appears and puts him in a wheelchair. He pushes Locke through an imaginary Sydney International Airport, where the other survivors are present but acting in different roles. Boone tells Locke that he has to help someone, but everyone that Locke recognizes is not the person. Boone vanishes and appears at the top of an escalator, and when Locke crawls up to the top, Boone appears bloody and injured, just like when he died. He says that Locke needs to clean up his own mess, and Locke awakens from the hallucination.
Trivia
1.Boone frequently wears a t-shirt with chinese characters meaning 84, which are two of the numbers that frequently appear throughout the show.
2.Boone Carlyle has now appeared five times since his death in Do no harm and burial in The greater good. He appeared in, "Exodus Part 1 & 2", "Abandoned", "Further instructions" and "Expose".



Ana Lucia Cortez (2nd Character to die)

Michael offers to kill Henry for her and Ana Lucia gives him the gun. Michael tells Ana Lucia that he is sorry and then shoots her in the heart. Ana is stunned at Michael's actions; she dies seconds later, making her the fourth character to die on the show.
At the moment of her death, she appears to Eko in a dream, where she is bleeding from her mouth and stomach, telling him that "You need to help John." ("? (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/%3F_%28Lost%29)")
In "Three minutes," a funeral takes place at the beach and she is buried next to Libby.
In the episode "Stranger in a strange land", taking place some eleven days after Ana Lucia's death, Cindy asks the caged Jack how Ana Lucia is doing. Jack yells at Cindy for this, asking her to leave.

Trivia
1.Contrary to popular belief, Ana-Lucia and Libby were not killed off due to Michelle Rodriguez and Cynthia Watros' DUI (Driving Under Influence of alcohol) arrests. Rodriguez was scheduled to appear for only one season in February of 2005, with the intention of her character being killed off. They found that Ana Lucia's death would not generate enough sympathy, so they also killed Libby, who was more liked by the audience. It was only a coincidence that both were arrested.
2.Ana Lucia was the first second season castmember that was hired, and she made a cameo in a flashback of Jack Shephard in the season one finale.



Mr.Eko and Nikki's deaths and trivia are explained in a posts time.

Levian
05-26-2007, 10:22 PM
Way to put the biggest spoilers outside the spoiler tags xD

That stuff happened ages ago

Anyway, I like that main characters can die. In most shows/movies/games I feel some people are immortal and will never die, so that takes some of the suspense away. I like being surprised so Lost is nice that way. :) The only people in Lost that I have that immortal feeling about now is Kate and Sawyer.

Madame Adequate
05-26-2007, 11:29 PM
Oh my.

Why did I ever doubt this show?

Patchy better have survived that 'nade. I'm sure he did, given that he's survived face haemmorhaging and speargun through the lung.

But about Charlie: I can see why Charlie didn't get the diving gear on first, because he was all overconfident. And I can just about see why he stayed inside the room - to stop Desmond getting in because of Penny, and thus him dying (Charlie wouldn't have had the time to get onto the outside of the room and close it, 'cause Des would have beat him to it). What bugs me is that... the window was big enough to be worth trying to get through. You could see that when Patchy was knocking on it. It would have been a close fit, but he could have made it. It annoys me that he didn't try - but that's the character having made peace with dying, rather than any actual errors.

Formalhaut
05-27-2007, 12:23 PM
mr.Eko and Nikki now. (note I am not doing the __ character to die now, that is reserved for the 2 quick people ;))

Mr.Eko
The vision of Yemi then says, "You speak to me as if I am your brother" and leaves. Infuriated, Eko follows him, demanding the identity of whoever is posing as his brother. He is lead into a closing in the jungle when the "monster" appears before Eko as a towering mass of black smoke. It reaches down and lifts him high into the air, slamming Eko many times into trees before brutally crushing him into the ground. When Locke and his party arrive, the monster is gone and Eko is lying motionless where the monster left him. Locke rushes to his side and Eko, with his last living breath, gasps his final words. As Eko dies, we see a flashback of him and his brother as young boys. Young Eko tosses a ball into the air, hugging his brother to himself, while walking away, backs toward the screen. Locke closes Eko's dead eyes. When Sayid asks what was said, Locke replies, "We're next." Eko is buried in the episode "I do" on the spot where he was killed, rather than at the cemetery on the beach. Locke says the other survivors have seen enough death recently (referring to Ana-Lucia and Libby's recent deaths). No one sees the monster kill Eko, and Locke suggests to the other survivors that Eko was killed by a wild animal. However, due to the fact that Locke has had previous contact with the monster, even confronting Eko about its existence, and also that Locke was the only one to hear Eko's last words, it is implied that he knows that the monster killed him. He then departs with Sayid to retrieve Eko's "scripture stick" where it fell in the forest in "Further Instructions." When they return to Eko's resting place, Locke says a few words before he is buried. As Locke pounds the stick into the ground as a grave marker, a scripture on it catches his eye. It reads "Lift up your eyes and look north - John 3:05" (literally, "Lift up your eyes and look north, John"). In "Tricia Tanaka is dead" and in the subsequent episode it is revealed to be a compass bearing to another one of the Dharma Stations, "The Flame."

TRIVIA
1.Eko was originally to be named Emeka. The name was later used for a similar character.
2.Although Akinnuoye-Agbaje was credited as a season cast member for the first six episodes of Lost's third season, he only appears in two episodes out of these - "Further instructions" and "The cost of Living".

Nikki Fernandez
In "Expose", Nikki discovers that Paulo has the bag of diamonds when he drops his nicotine gum. After failing to retrieve a gun from Sawyer, Nikki lures Paulo into the jungle and uses one of Arzt's collected Medusa Spiders to paralyze Paulo. As the paralysis is taking effect, Nikki takes the diamonds from him and he tells her that he kept them from her because he was afraid she wouldn't need him any more once she had them. The island "Monster" is heard and more spiders arrive, biting Nikki in the process. Panicking, Nikki runs to the beach, burying the diamonds along the way, and collapses nearby Hurley and Sawyer. When asked by Hurley "what happened", she says "paralyzed" but Sawyer and Hurley are unable to make it out. Everyone presumes her dead, along with Paulo, and begin to investigate. By the end of the day, the camp decide to give the two a funeral. Sawyer throws the stolen diamonds into the grave before they bury them. Nikki opens her eyes just as the other survivors start to fill the grave, but no one notices, and both Nikki and Paulo are accidentally buried alive.
TRIVIA
1.Nikki and Paulo were originally intended to have a much longer story arc. As the two were not well received by a large number of fans, however, their story was ultimately shortened.
2.There is a deleted scene showing Nikki and Paulo amidst the system failure crisis during the time of "Live together, die alone" (the moment the sky turns purple). It isn't known what happens in this scene until the release of the Season 3 DVDs


(IMHO, Nikki's and Paulo's death are the worst conceived EVER!)



CHARLIE's, Paulo's and Libby's deaths are explained.

Moon Rabbits
05-27-2007, 02:53 PM
Try: Nikki and Paulo's deaths were some of the coolest ever conceived.

Del Murder
05-27-2007, 07:49 PM
Hell yeah!

McLovin'
05-27-2007, 08:19 PM
More like Tom:

"I surrender."

BOOM HEADSHOT

"I don't believe ya."

Madame Adequate
05-28-2007, 12:13 AM
I was nearly as sad about Tom as I was about Sayid and Jin. I loved Tom. :(

Moon Rabbits
05-28-2007, 01:58 AM
I was nearly as sad about Tom as I was about Sayid and Jin. I loved Tom. :(

What about Bernard? BERNARD COULD HAVE DIED. What would Rose have ever done? :(

Laddy
05-28-2007, 03:59 AM
Bernard is a likeable character.

Del Murder
05-28-2007, 05:27 AM
I thought he shot him in the chest.

Anyway, that was pretty mean to Tom.

Sergeant Hartman
05-28-2007, 10:32 AM
I thought he shot him in the chest.

Anyway, that was pretty mean to Tom.
You could see it coming.
Survivors 1 - 0 Others

Maxico
05-28-2007, 04:52 PM
Oh man, I just got that Mikhail wanted to be shot or killed so badly when he was captured, because he's invunerable and would be able to escape if they thought he was dead.

That does bring up another strange Heroes parallel though.

Slothy
05-28-2007, 05:11 PM
Anyway, I like that main characters can die. In most shows/movies/games I feel some people are immortal and will never die, so that takes some of the suspense away. I like being surprised so Lost is nice that way. :) The only people in Lost that I have that immortal feeling about now is Kate and Sawyer.

Jack and Kate are the only ones we know for sure won't die.

I agree with your feelings on it though. One of the better parts of the show IS that anything can happen. If everyone survived all the time then you get used to it. If a show wants to keep people on the edge of their seats, they have to constantly change the status quo. My favourite shows are the ones that know this and have used it to their advantage.

Also Sergeant Hartman; I'm pretty sure in the finale alone it was Survivors 13, Others 1 (assuming Mikhail bit the dust which is extremely likely. I don't care how tough he is, you don't survive a grenade exploding in your face).

Del Murder
05-28-2007, 05:40 PM
Why would he kill himself on purpose? I'm pretty sure he survived, remember this show isn't exactly grounded in reality.

Laddy
05-28-2007, 06:15 PM
Patchy=Awesome

Formalhaut
05-28-2007, 11:27 PM
Libby
Later, Hurley invites her to a surprise picnic, to which she accepts. However, Hurley forgets some blankets, so Libby offers to retrieve them. As Libby is about to leave the hatch, she overhears Michael shooting and killing Ana Lucia. Calling out his name in shock, she is accidentally shot twice in the abdomen. After Jack (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jack_Shephard), Kate, Sawyer and Mr. Eko arrive, Sawyer discovers that Libby is in critical condition, while Ana Lucia lies dead. At first, Jack's initiative is to pursue the escaped "Henry Gale" (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Benjamin_Linus), but eventually he administrates Charlie (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charlie_Pace)'s confiscated heroin to ease the pain. In her dying breath, she coughs out Michael's name. However, this attempt of accusation is mistaken for concern, and she dies with Hurley at bedside ("? (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/%3F_%28Lost%29)"). She and Ana Lucia are buried alongside each other in "Three Minutes (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Three_Minutes)". It was revealed much later by Michael that, even if he had a moment to think things through, he would have killed her regardless.
Hurley visits Libby's grave in "Tricia Tanaka Is Dead (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tricia_Tanaka_Is_Dead)", where he reveals that he misses her, and leaves a flower on her grave.

TRIVIA

1.As of the end of Season 3, Libby is the only main character, past or present, to not be the main subject of a flashback (with the possible exception of one at the end of Dave).
2.Originally, Libby was not set to die, but Ana Lucia Cortez was not considered a popular enough character to garner sympathy from fans, so Libby, who was well liked, was killed as well for emotional impact. Cynthia Watros took the news quite badly.
CHARLIE PACE*
Charlie explains to Claire that he needs to do it in order for everyone to be rescued, and tells her not to worry about him. He then places his ring into Aaron's crib. The two share a kiss before Charlie leaves. Charlie and Desmond prepare to head off when Hurley begs Charlie to let him tag along, but Charlie declines his offer. As Hurley leaves, Charlie hugs him before heading off. Desmond and Charlie sail off, following the cable. Desmond offers to take Charlie's place. However, after a brief moment, Charlie knocks him out and dives into the ocean. Charlie barely makes it into the Looking Glass, but climbs out of the water safely. Just then, he is caught by two armed women.
In "Greatest Hits (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greatest_Hits_%28Lost%29)", Charlie composes a list of the five best moments, or "greatest" hits in his life after being told that his band released a Greatest Hits album in honor of his "death" and that he needed to sacrifice himself to get everyone, notably Claire (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Claire_Littleton) and Aaron, rescued. He places the list on Desmond's chest after knocking him out, having previously told him to give it to Claire. The items on the list are:

5. The day he first heard his band on the radio.
4. Learning to swim with his dad.
3. His brother Liam giving him the Pace family heirloom for Christmas. The heirloom is the ring inscribed with "DS" (the initials of an ancestor,Dexter Stratton), which led to the brothers naming their band DriveSHAFT.
2. Being called a hero by a woman in an alley after saving her from a mugger. Incidentally, the woman was Nadia, Sayid's (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sayid_Jarrah) love.
1. Meeting Claire the first night on the island. Charlie's interrogation is interrupted by Mikhail who shoots Charlie's captors when he finds out that Ben is purposely blocking transmissions. Desmond appears and shoots Mikhail with a harpoon. Desmond frees Charlie and one of Charlie's captors gives Charlie the code needed to deactivate the jamming signal. The code was designed by a musician, and was meant to sound like The Beach Boys (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Beach_Boys) "Good Vibrations". As Desmond tries to find scuba equipment, Charlie receives a call from Penny, Desmond's girlfriend. It is revealed that Naomi's freighter is not Penny's supposed ship, but rather one that wasn't predicted. While receiving the message, Mikhail escapes into the water with a grenade. He blows the grenade outside the room Charlie is in, flooding the room. Charlie stops the water from flooding the station by locking himself in the room, thus saving Desmond's life but sacrificing his own. Charlie writes "Not Penny's boat" on his hand with his permanent marker, informing Desmond of this from the other side of the glass. When it is clear that Desmond understands, he places his hand in front of Charlie's. Charlie gives him a small but noticeable smile, finally accepting his inevitable fate. He then swims backward and while floating into the center of the room, blesses himself with the sign of the Cross, and then dies.

TRIVIA
1.During the fourth season of another J.J. Abram's produced television show on ABC, Alias (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alias_%28TV_series%29), "You All Everybody" is heard playing in the background at main character Eric Weiss' birthday party.
2.There are several similarities between DriveSHAFT and the band Oasis (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oasis_%28band%29); these include their Mancunian origins, their international success, the lead singer's name being Liam, the band being formed by two brothers and dominated by their somewhat turbulent relationship, and, humourously, a lack of emphasis on the other members of the band. Also, their single "You All Everybody" is allegedly based on the Oasis (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oasis_%28band%29) song "Rock 'n' Roll Star (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rock_%27n%27_Roll_Star)", and the song Charlie sings while busking is "Wonderwall (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wonderwall_%28song%29)", one of Oasis' most famous songs.

Shannon and Paulo tomorrow.

Slothy
05-29-2007, 12:49 AM
Why would he kill himself on purpose? I'm pretty sure he survived, remember this show isn't exactly grounded in reality.

Perhaps the spear to the chest did more damage than you assume and he didn't think he was going to survive anyway. We'll have to wait until next season to see, but a grenade at that range, even underwater, will kill a man. I don't care what sort of healing powers the island may bestow, I've yet to see anyone recover from a face full of shrapnel.

Laddy
05-31-2007, 01:34 AM
I wonder who Kate married...

Madame Adequate
05-31-2007, 02:41 AM
Perhaps the spear to the chest did more damage than you assume and he didn't think he was going to survive anyway. We'll have to wait until next season to see, but a grenade at that range, even underwater, will kill a man. I don't care what sort of healing powers the island may bestow, I've yet to see anyone recover from a face full of shrapnel.

That's true, except consider Patchy's history. What if the sonic wall was set to kill, and he's actually invulnerable?

Laddy
05-31-2007, 04:14 AM
That is a good thing to consider...