More FF9 Riddles

[Hollycat]

I'm guessing its's the summons (all of them, not one in specific, so if it is a specific on just say no, I want to figure it out)

[Jiro]

My original thought is Trance despite it not really fitting most of the lines!

[Depression Moon]

AP?

[FFIX Choco Boy]

Depression Moon has it, AP!

From the beginning, straight to the end, - monsters in all parts give AP
I'll be useful, you'll depend
On me for your survival, - you need AP to learn better healing skills
to help you beat your rival. - and better damage skills
But unless you verse a single, - A "single" refers to a boss, which you only verse a single time
I don't change for your tingle - most mobs give just 1 AP, while bosses give more typically
To learn all you can learn,
But trust me, you're not who I spurn. - It rhymed.

You're up, DM!

[Jiro]

Makes perfect sense now that I know the answer :monster:

[Depression Moon]

Cool I got it.
I'll be back with one in a few.

[Depression Moon]

Death brought you here
On the way you found more of it
I thought you were the cause of it
Do not confuse me with him
I'm a real warrior
But him and I are not totally different
We have one thing in common
We both saw death

I hope this one isn't as hard as the last one.

[FFIX Choco Boy]

Looking for "I", "him", or "we"?

If you want we, then I'll guess the obvious: Zidane and Kuja.

[Shinwa Tsuki]

I'm going to guess Vivi and Black Waltz(es?).

[Depression Moon]

Neither.

To Choco Boy you're looking for I, but him or I will give you the right answer.

[FFIX Choco Boy]

Hmm... Lani?

[Depression Moon]

Nope.

[Rantz]

Soulcage?

[Depression Moon]

Nah ah. One more guess and I'll give a hint.

[Gamblet]

Freya

[Depression Moon]

No, but the answer does deal with a Burmecian.

[FFIX Choco Boy]

I can only think of 6 Burmecians in the entire game other than Freya, and 2 of them are nameless rat kids. I'm pretty sure all the rest are Cleyran. So, I'll guess that one Burmecian guard who's trying to save his family? I think his name is like Bob, or Bill.

[Jiro]

Just gonna say Fratley

[Shinwa Tsuki]

May guess is going to be that statute that Freya picks up a weapon from..... Not to sure if I'm on the right track.

[Silent Warrior]

Kal?

[Gamblet]

Prince Puck?

[Depression Moon]

No to everyone.

[Gamblet]

King of Burmecia

[Tigmafuzz]

Aside from Puck, Fratley, Freya, and the King, I can't think of any other Burmecians or even Cleyrans other than the random NPCs. It isn't a random NPC, is it?

[Jiro]

There is Burmecian Soldier Dan whose entire family is slaughtered if you're bad at directions in Cleyra. He also dies a horrible death too as I recall. There is also the Burmecian Soldier whose name I forget, maybe it was Bill, who ends up in Lindblum with a half dozen kids. These aren't guesses, I'm just listing Burmecians.

[Depression Moon]

Nope to Setzer and Cloud, but since Jiro said he wasn't guessing, I'll see if the next person can get it.

[FFIX Choco Boy]

DAN! That's the name I was trying to think of! Dan. My guess is Dan.

[Depression Moon]

Yep.


Death brought you here (referring to the dying soldier that arrives at Lindblum. Here referring to Burmecia)
On the way you found more of it (many dead burmecians in Gizamaluke's Grotto)
I thought you were the cause of it (When you first encounter Dan he accuses you and Vivi of the murder of his people)
Do not confuse me with him (Him referring to Dan from Street Fighter)
I'm a real warrior (FF Dan is a soldier. SF Dan is a joke)
But him and I are not totally different
We have one thing in common
We both saw death (Last few lines referring to both of them dying. FF Dan died in Cleyra. SF Dan was murdered by Kazuya.)

I probably gave too big of a hint by saying a Burmecian. If Gamblet didn't say Freya my hint was going to be that the character is in the game, but at the same time isn't.

[FFIX Choco Boy]

I got nothin. Open round.

[Tigmafuzz]

I was going to make it rhyme but I'm a bit too drunk. So I'm going to just give the clues in plain ol' English. Hopefully it's not too easy.

You can encounter me early in the game, but I'll probably beat the living shit out of you until the middle of Disc 3 or so.
If you do somehow manage to beat me, I might even drop a card with my own picture on it.
These bells are driving me insane.

What am I?

[FFIX Choco Boy]

Grand Dragon?

[Gamblet]

Grand Dragon?

Can't think of anything other than that.

[Jiro]

Good to see my ideas were close! :D

[Tigmafuzz]

Yup. Your turn again Choco Boy.

[Depression Moon]

That one was way too easy Cloud.

[FFIX Choco Boy]

That's why we don't make riddles when we're drunk, lol.

Quell that incessant rumbling!
Make me something I will like,
bring it quickly, I'm your queen!
Now clarify yourself, creature.
What are you in truth?
I know not how to reward you.
With these Earrings? Or these gloves?
Or can you even wear either?

Who are you?

[Gamblet]

"Quell that incessant rumbling!" - At Alexandria, when Bahamut is summoned, Alexander is summoned to make things "quiet" again.

"Make me something I will like,
bring it quickly, I'm your queen!" - Beatrix? Bringing those stones to Brahne. OR It may refer to eidolons.

"Now clarify yourself, creature.
What are you in truth?" - Alexander is a "creature", and it isn't quite clear what he/it really is.

"I know not how to reward you.
With these Earrings? Or these gloves?
Or can you even wear either?" - I guess the character must be male or has no gender.

So I am going to guess Alexander.

[FFIX Choco Boy]

Not Alexander.

[Jiro]

I am somewhat reminded of that book enemy that you face in Alexandria but there is not enough in the way of clues to actually explain why.

[Depression Moon]

I'm thinking this relates to a side mission, but I can't recall one where a glove or any armlets were given.

[FFIX Choco Boy]

Not Tantarian.

[Tigmafuzz]

Quina? When he was the head chef at the castle?

[FFIX Choco Boy]

Quina it is!

Quell that incessant rumbling! - S/he's always hungry.
Make me something I will like,
bring it quickly, I'm your queen! - S/he was head cook in Alexandria.
Now clarify yourself, creature.
What are you in truth? - We never really learn what a Qu is.
I know not how to reward you.
With these Earrings? Or these gloves? - Coral Earrings can only be worn by women. There's a pair of gloves in the game where the description says it is for swordsMEN. Refers to that we never learn if it's a he or she.
Or can you even wear either?

You're up, CS.

[Tigmafuzz]

Open round. I'm drunk again.

[Depression Moon]

Quina? When he was the head chef at the castle?

Damn, I was thinking it was Quina and when she worked for alexandria, but I knew that you weren't awarded anything from that so I thought it was an actual gameplay even

My riddle
Castle
Cards
Coral

[Jiro]

Festival of the Hunt.

[FFIX Choco Boy]

Or Lindblum.

[Gamblet]

I guess the same as the above two.

[Depression Moon]

Nope.

[Tigmafuzz]

Treno? It kinda has a castle, and that's where the card tournament is and the auction house where you get the Coral Earrings.
EDIT: It's also where you meet Amarant.

[Shinwa Tsuki]

I'm just tossing this out there: Amarant Coral? Or Salamander Coral... same guy.

[Depression Moon]

Guess again guys.

[SwordFox]

Alexandria?

It has a castle, it's where you get your first cards and learn to play (and meeting that "Alleyway Jack" fellow :p), and...

Uh...

Something to do with coral.

[Depression Moon]

Nah ah.

[Shinwa Tsuki]

In what direction are we heading with "coral"?

[Hollycat]

the final dungeon.

[Jiro]

Hey that's not a bad guess actually.

[Depression Moon]

the final dungeon.

You got it!

Castle referring to the area in Memoria where it replayed Bahamut's attack on Alexandria castle.
Cards referring to the hidden master card players found throughout the dungeon
Coral referring to the area where Quina thought she was underwater and almost drowned. Hades can also be found in that area.

[Hollycat]

Yay!
I'm good at guessing your riddles for some reason.

What I get when I mess with hooters
What I get when I mess with weird plants
What I get for messing with tentacles
What I get for messing with explosives

[Tigmafuzz]

I had an idea of what it was, but my mind went blank as soon as I read "tentacles." This is not a good sign.

[Depression Moon]

Is there more than one answer to this riddle?

[Hollycat]

yes

[Shinwa Tsuki]

What is it your looking for? General term? Or something else?

[Hollycat]

it has four specific answers

[Depression Moon]

What I get when I mess with hooters Black Mage Village
What I get when I mess with weird plants Mist
What I get for messing with tentacles Ink
What I get for messing with explosives Death

[Hollycat]

0/4 correct

[Jiro]

They're status effects.

[Hollycat]

is that a guess?

because that definitely is not 4 guesses.

[Jiro]

That's me telling everyone else who is less lazy that the lines refer to status effects but I cannot be assed looking them all up and pinpointing them :greenie:

[SwordFox]

Attempting the only one I actually have a proper idea about...

What I get when I mess with weird plants - Sleep?

[Jiro]

"hooters" probably refers to an enemy that is owl like.

[Hollycat]

no at the guess.
@Jiro It might, there is more than one definition of hooters.

[Jiro]

I can't think of an enemy that is breast like :p

[SwordFox]

Hooters - That weird duck guy you see in Alexandria and Treno who blows his horn at you? :D

[Hollycat]

0/4 correct

Hint:
All of the answers have something to do with battle.

[SwordFox]

Are they status effects, like Jiro said?

If so, the one about tentacles - Ochu/poison? Or maybe Malboro/Bad Breath?

[Hollycat]

they are not status effects

[SwordFox]

I assume Ochu and Malboro are also incorrect, then. :p

[Hollycat]

the one about tentacles is neither ochu nor malboro.

[Shinwa Tsuki]

Repost the riddle, please. And the hints so far.

[Hollycat]

Yay!


What I get when I mess with hooters
What I get when I mess with weird plants
What I get for messing with tentacles
What I get for messing with explosives

hints:
not status effects, has to do with battles.
only has to do with one named character

[SwordFox]

Is it blue magic? What you get when Quina eats enemies that match the descriptions?

Hooters = White Wind
Explosives = Mustard Bomb
Tentacles = Bad Breath
And... Weird Plant Omega Attack Five Thousand. Totally a legit move.

[Hollycat]

2/4 correct.
I can technically give you 3/4

[SwordFox]

Oh snap. xD

Uh... Let's see... Plant thing...

1,000 Needles?

[Hollycat]

no

[Jiro]

Hang in there SwordFox, you're almost there!

[SwordFox]

Gah, bugger. xD

Limit Glove? If not then I'm pretty much stumped.

[Hollycat]

no.

[SwordFox]

Can't we just say that 3 out of 4 means I won? :P

[Hollycat]

I said technically 3/4. you actually only got 2/4 perfect. Go for all 4.

[SwordFox]

I'm stumped. :(

[Jiro]

Yeah I think we need some more hints xD

[Hollycat]

tentacles has nothing to do with malboro

[Freya]

Hooters? That implies owl. You can't get anything from an owl... you can from the gryffin which is in the BM forest? If that's what you are implying.

Unless it implies tits and there really aren't any monsters quina can eat that have those....

[Depression Moon]

tentacles has nothing to do with malboro
So he got Bad Breath wrong?

[Hollycat]

yes and no.

[SwordFox]

How can it be yes and no? xD

Are the other two blue magic abilities like the two I got right?

[Hollycat]

yes

[SwordFox]

Well I'm still stumped.

[Tigmafuzz]

This is hurting my brain.

[Shinwa Tsuki]

Can we get a hint? Or maybe a repost of the hints so far?

[Hollycat]

Yay!


What I get when I mess with hooters- white wind
What I get when I mess with weird plants
What I get for messing with tentacles
What I get for messing with explosives-mustard bomb

hints:
not status effects, has to do with battles.
only has to do with one named character

[Shinwa Tsuki]

Hm... Okay.....

Could the "weird plants" be related to the Malboro? No, I'm going to guess 1000 Needles (attained from Cactuar)....

[Hollycat]

NOPE NO CACTUAR

[Shinwa Tsuki]

What I get when I mess with weird plants - Lv3 Defless. I'm not very sure about this, but Ochu does allow for this Blue Magic to be learnt.

[Hollycat]

You were wrong but you can have it. The answer was
Plants: malboro: bad breath
Tentacles: Roper: I forget.
hooters: White wind
Explsives: grenade: mustard bomb.

[Shinwa Tsuki]

*giggle*

Okay, I'll post a riddle very soon. I just need to locate the one I've written down on paper.

-edit- Found it,

Minute by minute,
Time ticks - always moving.
Hurry come quickly!
If you come in time,
You can attain me and a letter.

[Hollycat]

excaliber 2

[Shinwa Tsuki]

Yeah, that's 'me' - and the letter that comes with it.

[Hollycat]

jump rope and a letter.
also excalibur 2.

[Jiro]

The letter is from Enkido to Gilgamesh.

[Shinwa Tsuki]

Okay, the Enkido letter and the Excalibur 2. Either Jiro or Hypoallergenic can take the riddle.

[Hollycat]

Take it Dak.

[Jiro]

EDIT: Whoops forgot which forum this was. Let me get an actual IX riddle up.

EDIT2: Here we go.

Brrr! It's cold! Or is it hot?
I'll need to dig around to find the truth.

[Shinwa Tsuki]

Chocobo Hot and Cold? Only thing that makes sense.

[Jiro]

Indeed it is. Sorry about the simplicity, couldn't think of another riddle off the top of my head!

[Shinwa Tsuki]

That's okay. Some riddles are bound to be easy, others challenging.

I look like the elephant,
You see me holding a Gimme Cat,
But I am not her.

[Shinwa Tsuki]

Any one?

[Jinx]

I DUNNO BRAHNE

[Jiro]

I'm just going to say Hippaul. I can't think of anyone who has a Gimme Cat doll.

[Shinwa Tsuki]

Well, the answer is non-living (non sentient either).

[Jinx]

The island you find the Gimme Cat on?

[Shinwa Tsuki]

Nope, not that. The Gimme Cat is living, I'll give another hint after two more guesses.

[Shinwa Tsuki]

Hm... Here's another hint to get things moving.

The riddle contains 'the elephant', puzzle that out.

[Depression Moon]

Uhh Brahne?

[Shinwa Tsuki]

That is 'the elephant', now can you find something non-sentient that relates to Brahne?

[Jinx]

THE RED ROSE

[Shinwa Tsuki]

Nope. Two more guesses for another hint.

[Depression Moon]

Dark Matter?

[Shinwa Tsuki]

Nope, one more guess for a hint.

Edit:
Oh, alright. Here's a hint, in the form of lined added to the my riddle:

I look like the elephant,
You see me holding a Gimme Cat,
But I am not her.

You never interact with me,
Yet only in one place do you see me,
Your clue is this: The trinity of Alex.

[Shinwa Tsuki]

As it has been some time, my hint is my editted post above.

[Jinx]

The portrait of Brahne hanging in the royal household?

[Depression Moon]

If that's it, that was pretty random.

[Shinwa Tsuki]

I don't know if it's Brahne, but it is the patroit you see in Alexandria. I wouldn't call it random....

edit: Depression Moon, it's your turn.

[Shinwa Tsuki]

Hm... since Depression Moon doesn't seem to wish keeping this going, I'll go again.

In white or yellow — I sing,
Letting my stress fly on wings.
Roses and narcissus allow my to fly,
Only with him do I truly soar.

Who is he?
Who am I?
What theme?

[Jinx]

Not sure what the theme is, but Hildegarde 2 and Cid.

[Shinwa Tsuki]

You're close with the Hildegarde 2, think before that particular ship was modified. You're left field with Cid Fabool.

[Jinx]

GARNET

ON THE HILDEGARDE 3

WITH ZIDANE

[Shinwa Tsuki]

That's closer. Would you explain your reasoning?

[Jinx]

no

[Shinwa Tsuki]

Hm... Garnet is the I in the riddle, what else can you think of?

[Jinx]

Zidane and Melodies of Life?

[Shinwa Tsuki]

Nope. Zidane is the he in the riddle.

[Jinx]

By theme you mean music, right?

[Shinwa Tsuki]

Nope, not a musical theme.

[Quindiana Jones]

I can whistle it, but I'll be damned if I ever name it xD.

Oh wait, not a musical theme. Well then, seppuku all round.

[Rantz]

Is the theme true love~

[Jinx]

The theme is flight.

[Shinwa Tsuki]

Yes, Miss Boobs, the theme is flight. Now, can you guess the main part?

Here is a repost:
In white or yellow — I sing,
Letting my stress fly on wings.
Roses and narcissus allow my to fly,
Only with him do I truly soar.

Who is he?
Who am I?
What theme?

[Jinx]

....What do you mean, the main part?

[Shinwa Tsuki]

The main part:
In white or yellow — I sing,
Letting my stress fly on wings.
Roses and narcissus allow my to fly,
Only with him do I truly soar.

[Edit] I should mention that each line is a riddle in itself.

[Jiro]

The first line refers to the fact that Garnet sings, whether wearing a white dress/robe or her yellow jumpsuit.

The third line refers to the Red Rose and Blue Narcissus.

It was a pretty clever riddle, Shinwa Tsuki!

[Shinwa Tsuki]

Thanks Jiro!

Also, the first line refers to her nickname "Canary" because canaries are often yellow or sometimes white. (or was that the other way around?)

[Edit] It's between Jiro and Miss Tifa's Boobs, I'll let the two of them decide who will take the floor.

[Jinx]

NOSE GOES

JIRO'S TURN :D

[Jiro]

The tune carries across the ocean
Over mountains, through forests
Don't use it inside though
The acoustics won't save you

[Jinx]

The gramophone in the Black Mage Village?

[Jiro]

Nope!

[Jinx]

The harp in the Cleyra village?

[Shinwa Tsuki]

The flute that the Moogle gives you, the one that lets you save on the world map. You can not use this particular flute "inside" because you should be able to find a Moogle to save your game.

[Jinx]

Aw dude! That's it! Good job, Shinwa. :)

[Shinwa Tsuki]

Hee, hee! Yeah, that one was obvious to me.

My riddle:
We am represented three ways,
You might find us dangerous,
We won't lie — only one set is truly danger.
What are we?

[Jiro]

The flute that the Moogle gives you, the one that lets you save on the world map. You can not use this particular flute "inside" because you should be able to find a Moogle to save your game.

That is, indeed, the correct answer. Depending on where you are standing, our Moogle friend can sometimes slide towards you over mountaintops and across the ocean. I thought using the word save in the riddle might give you a little clue. You're up!

[Quindiana Jones]

Obvious guess: Black Mages (A, B and C).

[Jinx]

The Black Waltzes.

[Shinwa Tsuki]

Nope. I'll give a hint after three more guesses.

[Quindiana Jones]

What's the name of that monster that has three parts? One is blue, one red and one yellow. I can't remember...

Whatever it is, is it that?

Wait, no. I got it. Is it the Mover enemies in Terra? If I remember rightly, they have a ridiculously powerful attack if they're all together.

[Shinwa Tsuki]

No. Two more guesses until a hint.

[Quindiana Jones]

Alrighty then. Is it that monster that has red, blue and yellow parts? xD

Although, knowing how you do riddles, Shinwa, it's probably something like coffee!

[Shinwa Tsuki]

Now, but I suspect those colors might be part of one 'way'.

[Quindiana Jones]

My riddle:
We am represented three ways,
You might find us dangerous,
We won't lie — only one set is truly danger.
What are we?

Gonna go through this like we used to in the good old days! :D

Something(s) that is represented in three ways. It might be one thing with three forms, one thing that is described in three ways (e.g. witness account), or three individual things that form a unit. It (They) appear dangerous, though only one "set" of them is dangerous. This could refer to a final form of one thing, or a combination of three things. Without delving too deep, it appears to rule out the idea of the answer being one thing that is simply referred to in three different ways. The way the riddle is written suggests that it is the latter idea of three individual things -

Oh wait. There's no indication that there are only three things. It could be a dozen things that are represented in three ways. In this sense it could even be Zorn and Thorn (represented as Jesters, Mages and a Monster), though it doesn't seem likely. Shinwa, consider that a guess anyway xD.

I'll put more thought into it when it's not two in the morning! :D

[Shinwa Tsuki]

Gonna go through this like we used to in the good old days! :D

Something(s) that is represented in three ways. It might be one thing with three forms, one thing that is described in three ways (e.g. witness account), or three individual things that form a unit. It (They) appear dangerous, though only one "set" of them is dangerous. This could refer to a final form of one thing, or a combination of three things. Without delving too deep, it appears to rule out the idea of the answer being one thing that is simply referred to in three different ways. The way the riddle is written suggests that it is the latter idea of three individual things -

Oh wait. There's no indication that there are only three things. It could be a dozen things that are represented in three ways. In this sense it could even be Zorn and Thorn (represented as Jesters, Mages and a Monster), though it doesn't seem likely. Shinwa, consider that a guess anyway xD.

I'll put more thought into it when it's not two in the morning! :D

You're on the right track, the answer however is not Zorn & Thorn.

Here is the hint, as an expanded riddle type.

We am represented three ways,
You might find us dangerous,
We won't lie — only one set is truly danger.
What are we?

There are four of us,
At least three ways are we linked.
Another way we could be represented,
Is spherical in nature.

[FFIX Choco Boy]

The 4 gems required to summon Alexander?

[Shinwa Tsuki]

They are not represented three ways,so try again.

[FFIX Choco Boy]

The elemental mirrors you find in Oeilvert? I mean, they are circular, and they are also supposed to represent the crystals of FF1, which were orbs, the spherical part, and the ones from FF5, which were crystals instead of orbs, and they were "dangerous" I guess because when they shattered, it broke the world and fused it with Galuf's world. I'm really kind of stumped, otherwise...

[Shinwa Tsuki]

The mirrors are one way of representing the answer, although the final answer — I must admit — might be a touch abstract...though if others do find the final answer abstract, that's an oops on my part.

[FFIX Choco Boy]

So, are they represented as the set of mirrors, the set of shrines, and the set of shrine bosses, which would be the only part truly dangerous?

[Shinwa Tsuki]

Yep.

Edit: Here is the expanded riddle reposted:
We am represented three ways,
You might find us dangerous,
We won't lie — only one set is truly danger.
What are we?

There are four of us,
At least three ways are we linked.
Another way we could be represented,
Is spherical in nature.

Edit 2: ChocoBoy, can you think of what the final answer is (and the reason why I think it is a bit of an abstract answer)?

[FFIX Choco Boy]

The elements, Air, Fire, Earth, Water.

[Shinwa Tsuki]

Yep, that's the final answer.

Here's the break down:

We am represented three ways,
This refers to the four Shrines, the four Mirrors, and the four "Crystal Bosses".
You might find us dangerous,
There are really two interpretations of this line: 1. The Bosses are the dangerous ones, and 2. The fact that each of the four elements are dangerous in and of themselves — Volcanic eruptions, Tsunami waves, Earthquakes, and Tornadoes. It is the second interpretation that is meant here.
We won't lie — only one set is truly danger.
Each of the four Shrine bosses is dangerous.
What are we?
The four classical elements.

There are four of us,
Should be obvious. There are four classical elements.
At least three ways are we linked.
By this, I am referring to how their linked in the game itself.
Another way we could be represented,
Is spherical in nature.
The spherical version of this four representation are the four colored Stones (Red, Blue, Yellow, and Green — each of which are a symbolic color of Fire, Water, Air, and Earth receptively (although, in some cultures the Earth and Air have their symbolic colors switched)). These Stones, I see as being spherical in nature.

[FFIX Choco Boy]

A bit of a throwback,
you might remember me.
You didn't for get to stay in your line?
What about the spin at the end?

Free them from prison,
and you can find me.
Two steps forward, three steps back.

What am I?

[Jinx]

Well, I know it has to do with the Rufus Parade song playing on the Prima Vista...

So the boss flower plant thing?

[Jiro]

Yeah it's gotta be related to Plant Cage or w/e it's stupid name is.

[Shinwa Tsuki]

I do have to agree that the answer is musical in nature, I personally think the answer might be with the saxophone (or what ever it is called) in the Black Mage Village that will play a certain theme if you have three Key Items the names of which I do not recall.

[FFIX Choco Boy]

Sorry, I've been gone for a couple days. But I've got to give it to Tifa's Boobs. It's the Rufus Parade song, in general, but since she mentioned it, I'm giving it up.

A bit of a throwback,
you might remember me.

-It was in Final Fantasy VII.

You didn't for get to stay in your line?
What about the spin at the end?

-Has to do with the marching in Junon in FFVII, which you do to this song.

Free them from prison,

-Vivi and Garnet from Prison Cage.

and you can find me.
Two steps forward, three steps back.

-References the fact that it you go to steps(screens) forward from the crash site, you get the ATE to start the song, then if you go three steps(screens) back, you can see them actually playing it.

Tifa's Boobs, you're up.

[Jinx]

Kisses and Hugs
I don't like it rough!
Gotta go deep
Golden Showers
Happy Explosions

[Rantz]

Ragtime Mouse. :D

[Jinx]

Yuh! :D

W2g Rantz yr turn bby

[Quindiana Jones]

Oh Sam, you're becoming a parody of yourself xD.

[Rantz]

Two gross people is all I can bear
Though my end was by just one
And one is all that holds me, but
You ain't seen nothing 'til you've seen me!

[Jinx]

Black Waltzes?

[FFIX Choco Boy]

"Gross people" makes me think of the Qus.

[Jinx]

Hades.

[Shinwa Tsuki]

Oglops? (Or however their spelled... .)

[Shinwa Tsuki]

Rantz, are you there? I thinks we need a hint, and your responses to our guesses.

[Rantz]

Oh, whoops! Sorry guys. All guesses so far have been incorrect.

Hint: "Gross" has several meanings.

[Gamblet]

bump

[Rantz]

Gross refers to the number in the first line, and the adjective in the second line.

[Gamblet]

Two gross people is all I can bear
Though my end was by just one
And one is all that holds me, but
You ain't seen nothing 'til you've seen me!

Garnet maybe?

[Rantz]

Nope!

[FFIX Choco Boy]

The Theatre Ship?

[Rantz]

Yep! Carries two gross (2 x 144 = 288 people, as mentioned by an obscure sign that I and five other people paid attention to), destroyed by one gross person... :greenie:

I must admit I've forgotten what the third line refers to. It's been a while since I made the riddle. Could be that there's only one NPC (Gilgamesh) that you can win it from (by playing Tetra Master, that is). Not the best line if that's so, but it's my best guess.

The last line refers to seeing it in the opening scene, but moreso to its name, Prima Vista (literally "first sight").

[FFIX Choco Boy]

I believe the third line referred to Morrid, who holds the Theatre Ship Model.

I don't have one at the minute, but I might tomorrow. If I don't post within 24 hours, assume I've passed my turn.

[TwilightLord]

It's been more than 24 hours, right? I can never figure out how to read the timestamps on this forum...

Anyway, I've got a riddle here.

What the hell did you call me?
Look at me, do I look like vermin to you?
You're gonna have to work to earn my protection now.
Nothing in life is free, after all.

[Gamblet]

Seifer.

[Hollycat]

Seifer.

Wrong game.

Is it Alleyway Jack/ Gilgamesh?

[TwilightLord]

It's not Seifer Almasy (I think you want the FFVIII riddle thread), nor is it Gilgamesh (alias Alleyway Jack, alias The Four-Armed Man).

Repost for the new page:

What the hell did you call me?
Look at me, do I look like vermin to you?
You're gonna have to work to earn my protection now.
Nothing in life is free, after all.

Incorrect guesses so far:
Seifer Almasy
Gilgamesh/Alleyway Jack/The Four-Armed Man

[Gamblet]

Ah, I thought it was VIII riddle thread. :lol: That vermin part sounded so Seifer.

[Jinx]

Puck?

[Sephex]

The corner post of Zidane's bed near the headboard.

[TwilightLord]

It's not Puck, or Zidane's bedpost...

Sephex, was that a joke guess or are you actually being serious? Because I would really love to know why you think that's the answer.

Hint:

What the hell did you call me?
Look at me, do I look like vermin to you?
You're gonna have to work to earn my protection now.
Nothing in life is free, after all.
How about we play a little game first?

[Aquarian]

Ratchel. I mean Freya?

[TwilightLord]

It's not Rachel (which is what I assume you meant to type, and she's from FFVI anyway), nor is it Freya Crescent. You are thinking along the right lines in the sense of taking "vermin" literally, though.

[Jinx]

Does it have something to do with the dance you perform in Cleyra?

[TwilightLord]

It couldn't have anything less to do with the Ritual Dance in Cleyra.

If no one is even close within three more guesses, I'll give a big hint. It won't be the only big hint I'll give, either.

[Jinx]

Regent Cid.

[TwilightLord]

Not Cid Fabool IX. Two more guesses until hint time.

I would like people to give reasoning for their guesses, though. That way I know you're not just guessing random stuff and waiting for the hint.

[Jinx]

I'm not.

[maybee]

What the hell did you call me?
Look at me, do I look like vermin to you?
You're gonna have to work to earn my protection now.
Nothing in life is free, after all.
How about we play a little game first?

Amarant ?

[TwilightLord]

Not Amarant Coral. One more guess and then a hint.

[Shinwa Tsuki]

I wonder, if the speaker (of the riddle) is an NPC. My best guess of an answer, at this time, would be: the red clocked man who runs out in rage when you first visit the Alexandria Inn when playing as Vivi. My reason for guessing that it is a NPC is below, I don't really have a reason for my guessed answer.

What the hell did you call me?
Look at me, do I look like vermin to you?
You called the speaker a "vermin". But may not look like a vermin.

You're gonna have to work to earn my protection now.
Nothing in life is free, after all.
A price must be paid to get protection from the speaker.

[TwilightLord]

You're right that it's an NPC, but it's not him.

Hint: The first two lines are connected, i.e. the speaker is taking umbrage at being called "vermin". Note that "vermin" should be taken literally here.

Repost:

What the hell did you call me?
Look at me, do I look like vermin to you?
You're gonna have to work to earn my protection now.
Nothing in life is free, after all.
How about we play a little game first?

Incorrect guesses so far:
Seifer Almasy
Gilgamesh/Alleyway Jack/The Four-Armed Man
Puck
Zidane's bedpost
Rachel
Freya Crescent
Amarant Coral
The NPC in the inn in Alexandria

[Lone Wolf Leonhart]

Is it Burmecian Soldier Dan?

What the hell did you call me?
Look at me, do I look like vermin to you?
This leads me to believe that whoever it is is Cleyran or Burmecian
You're gonna have to work to earn my protection now.
Nothing in life is free, after all.
He sells you stuff in Cleyra. He remembers meeting Zidane in Burmecia and feels bad about accusing Vivi of being one of the killer Black Mages. Or something like that.
How about we play a little game first?
I think you can challenge him to a game of cards!

I put a LOT of time in to researching this answer so if I'm wrong I'm going to be wildly disappointed and cry :colbert:

[Shinwa Tsuki]

Answer me this, Lone Wolf: Why would you or Zidane have to work to earn the protection of the Burmecian (rats and mice are vermin) Soldier Dan?

I think the word "vermin" in the riddle refers more to personality than literally.

[Hollycat]

Fratley?

[Lone Wolf Leonhart]

Answer me this, Lone Wolf: Why would you or Zidane have to work to earn the protection of the Burmecian (rats and mice are vermin) Soldier Dan?

I don't think Zidane needs to earn the protection of any NPC. I took it as a metaphorical protection like his shop opening. You can protect yourself with his items. As far as the earn part goes, I don't know.


I think the word "vermin" in the riddle refers more to personality than literally.

But he just said that it should be taken literally.

[TwilightLord]

Sorry to make you cry, Lone Wolf Leonhart, but it's not Burmecian Soldier Dan. It's also not Sir Iron-Tail Fratley, of Burmecia. In fact - and this is a very big hint - it's not a Burmecian at all. How's that for a plot twist?

Also, regarding the word "vermin", it is to be taken literally, but remember that the two first lines go together. In other words, "Do I look like vermin to you?" means that the speaker is expressly NOT vermin, but gets called vermin anyway.

I think I've said too much already, but hopefully this helps.

[Aquarian]

My second and last answer would be Cid, perhaps he was called it as an Oglop?

[TwilightLord]

It's not Cid Fabool IX.

[Lone Wolf Leonhart]

49088

[Gamblet]

Prince Puck!

EDIT: Aw, it was guessed already, dammit.

[TwilightLord]

Another hint: This is not an NPC that you can talk to.

[maybee]

Sorry if this question sounds dumb, but does the NPC come from Cleyra ?

[Hollycat]

Is it an actual NPC or a statue?

[TwilightLord]

Yes, it is an actual NPC, and no, it doesn't come from Cleyra.

[Aquarian]

The only time I remember the word "Vermin" being used is by Kuja towards the Cleyrans.

I'll take another shot, is it the Auctioneer?

[maybee]

The only time I remember the word "Vermin" being used is by Kuja towards the Cleyrans.


Yeah was thinking this.

[TwilightLord]

No, it's not the Auctioneer.

Hint: The one calling the answer vermin is YOU, the player. No one in the actual game ever actually speaks to it.

Repost:

What the hell did you call me?
Look at me, do I look like vermin to you?
You're gonna have to work to earn my protection now.
Nothing in life is free, after all.
How about we play a little game first?

Incorrect guesses so far:
Seifer Almasy
Gilgamesh/Alleyway Jack/The Four-Armed Man
Puck
Zidane's bedpost
Rachel
Freya Crescent
Amarant Coral
The NPC in the inn in Alexandria
Burmecian Soldier Dan
Sir Iron-Tail Fratley, of Burmecia
Cid Fabool IX
The Auctioneer

[maybee]

Is it somebody in Treno ? Like during the card tournament on disc 3 ?

[TwilightLord]

No, it's not found in Treno.

[Aquarian]

An NPC you cannot talk to, but refer to in the game as "Vermin" that is also referred to as "it". Also, it is neither Burmecian nor found in Treno...

I honestly cannot think of any more...

:|

[TwilightLord]

Hint: I never said it was specifically called "Vermin". It is, however, given a name that is something to do with vermin (in the literal sense) that is not indicative of what it actually is.

[Hollycat]

I think your idea of vermin must be different from ours. To me only the cleryans could fit that.

[TwilightLord]

I think your idea of vermin must be different from ours. To me only the cleryans could fit that.

My idea is vermin is how it's defined in the dictionary. "Any one of various common types of small insects or animals which cause harm and annoyance." Rats are not the only kind of vermin, either in real life or in the game.

And as I've stated many times before, this character is MISTAKENLY referred to as a type of vermin. Referring to Burmecians as a type of vermin (in their case a rat) would not be a mistake, as rats are indeed what they are. But in the case of the answer to the riddle, what I'm looking for is a character who is referred to as a type of vermin (and note again that includes more than just rats), but is expressly NOT said type of vermin. Also keep in mind my other hint that says that it's the player who makes the aforementioned mistake, not any character in the game.

I think I just dropped several major hints there. I really did NOT expect people to find this riddle so hard, I was expecting it to be guessed in like three posts or something.

[Rantz]

Is it the Ragtime Mouse?

[Jinx]

And as I've stated many times before, this character is MISTAKENLY referred to as a type of vermin.
Actually, you never said that. You just said that vermin was to be taken in the literal sense.


I think I just dropped several major hints there. I really did NOT expect people to find this riddle so hard, I was expecting it to be guessed in like three posts or something.
And that kind of attitude makes the game fun for no one. And as easy as you might think this is, if no one ever interacts or speaks to the character, it makes guessing really, really tough.

Is it one of the Friendly Monsters?

[Aquarian]

Ragtime MOUSE?

[Rantz]

I think I just dropped several major hints there. I really did NOT expect people to find this riddle so hard, I was expecting it to be guessed in like three posts or something.
And that kind of attitude makes the game fun for no one. And as easy as you might think this is, if no one ever interacts or speaks to the character, it makes guessing really, really tough.

Interesting how differently two people can interpret the same statement. I was just thinking TwilightLord had been pretty patient considering several hints have gone ignored repeatedly. For example: what you say above that he didn't say, he actually did say, twice. Probably comes down to misinterpretations. :)

[TwilightLord]

Pantz, you are the win! It was the Ragtime Mouse!

Wow, I did NOT expect that to last as long as it did. Anyway, here's the explanation.

"What the hell did you call me?
Look at me, do I look like vermin to you?"
As I've stated before, these lines go together. The Ragtime Mouse is not a mouse, and looks nothing like a mouse. His/Its name was actually supposed to be Ragtime Mouth, which is much more fitting for his appearance. So he's wondering why on earth the player (as I said, it's the player calling him vermin, not any character in the game) is calling him a Ragtime Mouse when he clearly looks nothing like a mouse.

"You're gonna have to work to earn my protection now.
Nothing in life is free, after all."
If you answer all of his questions correctly, he drops a Protect Ring. This is sort of continuing the "story" of the riddle too, with the Ragtime Mouse/Mouth essentially saying he was just going to give you the ring, but then you insulted him by calling him a mouse so now you have to earn it.

"How about we play a little game first?"
Refers to the questions you have to answer.

Congratulations!

[Aquarian]

I thought it was the ragtime mouse but the ragtime mouse is a monster, not an NPC so I suppose people misinterpreted the riddle. :)

[TwilightLord]

Monsters are also NPCs.