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demondude
06-30-2011, 03:30 PM
Welcome to The Returners.

The first rule of The Returners is: you do not talk about The Returners.
The second rule of The Returners is: you DO NOT talk about The Returners!
Third rule of The Returners: if someone yells "stop!", goes limp, or taps out, you whoop their candy ass even further.
Fourth rule: Fight with as many Returners you can gather.
Fifth rule: Don't pussy out.
Sixth rule: the fights are bare knuckle. No shirt, no shoes, no weapons.
Seventh rule: We will not stop until we get control.
And the eighth and final rule: if this is your first time at The Returners, you have to fight. Get in their territory and smurf them up.

We're the smurfing Returners. Who the smurf are you?

Members:
Demon Dude
Del Murder
Bunny
NorthernChaosGod
Wolf Kanno
Chris
Vivi22
The Man
Rebellious Eagle
Agent Proto

G13
06-30-2011, 03:34 PM
We're the guys who are going to stomp your goofy asses.

demondude
06-30-2011, 03:36 PM
You keep running your mouth and the Rock will slap it off your face, bitch!

Jiro
06-30-2011, 03:39 PM
You're both fucked when the Misfits roll in. YOUR CHICKEN LEGS AIN'T SHIT

I Don't Need A Name
06-30-2011, 03:46 PM
Looks like I'm a Returner...apparently?

Del Murder
06-30-2011, 03:47 PM
Looking at the rosters in a totally impartial and unbiased way, I must say, the Returners are stacked.

returners 4 lyfe

demondude
06-30-2011, 03:47 PM
GIVE ME SOME PRIDE, RETURNER!

One of you jabronies whip up a nice signature if you would be so kind.

The Man
06-30-2011, 03:48 PM
so what's all this about then

demondude
06-30-2011, 03:50 PM
<div style="font: 16px Candara, Skia, Corbel, 'Trebuchet MS', Georgia, Geneva, Helvetica, Lucida, 'Lucida Grande', Arial, sans-serif; color: #38bcee; text-align: justify;">so what's all this about then</div>

Simply answer this question. Are you a man or a mouse?

Rantz
06-30-2011, 03:51 PM
Pffft, Returners? More like Return-to-whatever-hole-you-crawled-out-of-ers. You're not even 3D :lol:

Jiro
06-30-2011, 03:58 PM
Fuck off The Man is clearly a man of refined taste and badassity. JOIN ME, I SUPPORT FFTACTICS

demondude
06-30-2011, 04:00 PM
He is THE MAN. Just like THE ROCK. He has enough sense to join us.

G13
06-30-2011, 04:05 PM
THE PEBBLE doesn't realize it's pronounced THE MAN. We of the Warriors get you The Man. Do the right thing and join us.

demondude
06-30-2011, 04:06 PM
THE PEBBLE doesn't realize it's pronounced THE MAN. We of the Warriors get you The Man. Do the right thing and join us.

woah

WOAH

WOAH WOAH WOAH ... WOAH

Does The Rock have to come down there and fuck you up himself?

G13
06-30-2011, 04:10 PM
I can smell what you're cookin' from here, and I'd appreciate it if you kept your distance, thanks.

Jiro
06-30-2011, 04:14 PM
That outfit doesn't complement your candy ass either

I Don't Need A Name
06-30-2011, 04:46 PM
You Returners have no power without a Flying Mullet to back you with true VI power. First defection has occured!

demondude
06-30-2011, 04:51 PM
You're nothing more than a Ryder, a Big Smoke. WE'RE ALL CJ'S AND SWEETS HERE.

Jiro
06-30-2011, 04:56 PM
AW YEAH MOTHERSMURFERS. What you gonna do when fly guy Mr Andatron be joining the Misfits?

You weep. Go and cry you punks. You can't hang onto your members because you got no love in you. You gots no diversity. The Misfits all about lovin' man, we respect our fellow brothers! You just a buncha haters hatin' on the world.

G13
06-30-2011, 05:00 PM
You want all the other members because you lack diversity yourself. You're not even anything, you're just Misfits, and not the interesting kind like from the isle of misfit toys, you're just a buncha Misfit tools.

demondude
06-30-2011, 05:03 PM
gtfo out of the Returner Club you japseyes.

I Don't Need A Name
06-30-2011, 05:04 PM
We Misfits stick together! We're like a brotherhood (with added sisters). We have so much diversity that we blow your small, pea sized, Warrior minds. You just can't comprehend us!

Jiro
06-30-2011, 05:06 PM
Now hey brother Demon Dude, don't be so harsh. I'm comin' here now to apologise. Your man IDNAN and I been talking, and while he definitely be siding with the Misfits, we agree that you suckas ain't too bad.

If you ever need a brother to take down these Warrior punk ass mothersmurfers or them Bandit bitch faced burger titters, you just holler and we can work summat out, reet?

demondude
06-30-2011, 05:09 PM
The Rock says no dice, dickhead.

;)

G13
06-30-2011, 05:09 PM
We Misfits stick together! We're like a brotherhood (with added sisters). We have so much diversity that we blow your small, pea sized, Warrior minds. You just can't comprehend us!

The only thing on me that got blown was... well, just ask yo mama. :smug:

Del Murder
06-30-2011, 05:10 PM
An alliance with the Misfits may not be a bad idea. The 8bit and 16bit generations must stick together!

(and then we'll turn on them later)

demondude
06-30-2011, 05:12 PM
An alliance with the Misfits may not be a bad idea. The 8bit and 16bit generations must stick together!

(and then we'll turn on them later)

We'll make demands though. Perhaps a tribute to all of our members, or nudes.

I Don't Need A Name
06-30-2011, 05:13 PM
Yeah DD. Me and you go back a while now! Let our brotherhood continue! Let us use the power of 2D to show the others the true path!

Del Murder
06-30-2011, 05:13 PM
2D 4 lyfe

smurf it let's go back to 1D worddddd

demondude
06-30-2011, 05:14 PM
AGH I DON'T KNOW. I do like 2d things.

Jiro
06-30-2011, 05:16 PM
(hey we were planning on the same thing, it's just that these Warrior dicks be cramping errbody's style, ya dig?)

EDIT: whisperin' at Delly M. fuck you dawgs type quick

Del Murder
06-30-2011, 05:19 PM
DD has 2Ds

Del Murder has 2 as well

Jiro! This alliance will be long and fruitful. Together we will squash those 3D punks beneath the heels of our sprite boots.

demondude
06-30-2011, 05:19 PM
Make us a smurfing Charlie-Sheen-Winning-standard of sig and maybe we'll be easier to persuade.

Pumpkin
06-30-2011, 05:20 PM
you people are wierdos
with that being said....

Can I join????? :jess:

Del Murder
06-30-2011, 05:22 PM
I think the join phase comes later, but all are welcome in the Returners camp.

I Don't Need A Name
06-30-2011, 05:22 PM
And so it was carved into history! After the IDNAN's successful defection to the Misfits, an alliance was forged between the 2D teams! Pleasure doing business!

Del Murder
06-30-2011, 05:23 PM
This is like when the mob families marry off their kids to create a truce.

I Don't Need A Name
06-30-2011, 05:24 PM
I'm sorry Daddy Murder! I must rise to power within another faction! I shall make you proud!

Del Murder
06-30-2011, 05:37 PM
(Yes...take them down from the inside...our plan is working...)

Rantz
06-30-2011, 05:57 PM
Pshhh, don't be fooled. Take another look at Demon Dude's name. Demon Dude... 3D!! You heard it here first. Demon Dude is a traitor to your cause!

Del Murder
06-30-2011, 05:59 PM
The third d is silent. Demon Doo

demondude
06-30-2011, 06:02 PM
Are you crazy? My username is 'demon door' you dumbass quick somebody change it.

The Man
06-30-2011, 07:48 PM
So would joining this thing mean I have to commit anything other than having a cool title under my name? 'Cause if that's all there is to it I'll join. I'm not sure I'll remember to check this place frequently for any significant length of time in the future though, so if there's more to it than that I'm not sure I can be arsed :monster:

demondude
06-30-2011, 07:49 PM
All you have to do is believe.

The Man
06-30-2011, 07:52 PM
I'm certainly capable of doing that

Del Murder
06-30-2011, 07:52 PM
Believe and be arsed. Be arsed forever.

The Man
06-30-2011, 07:53 PM
I may be arsed. Given the right incentives.

I Don't Need A Name
06-30-2011, 07:54 PM
Join the Misfits and Jiro will grant you favours? ;]

The Man
06-30-2011, 07:57 PM
What kind of favours? They'd have to be pretty impressive favours to make me betray FFVI.

I Don't Need A Name
06-30-2011, 07:58 PM
It wouldn't be a betrayal. We're currently in league with our 2D brothers. That guy can make Beans on Toast like you wouldn't believe! I'm sure he could rustle up some tasty morsels for you? :jess:

demondude
06-30-2011, 07:59 PM
I think we're the only gang yet to have a female member so join us for max sexism and no overt feminism.

The Man
06-30-2011, 08:01 PM
It wouldn't be a betrayal. We're currently in league with our 2D brothers. That guy can make Beans on Toast like you wouldn't believe! I'm sure he could rustle up some tasty morsels for you? :jess:I was thinking more along the lines of n00dz.

DK
06-30-2011, 08:02 PM
we all know you're the one giving out favours Freed

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v449/Ace_Venom/graffiti.jpg

Slothy
06-30-2011, 08:02 PM
Your new avatar is inspiring me to change mine when I get home DD. I sense some wrestling machismo solidarity on the horizon.

I Don't Need A Name
06-30-2011, 08:03 PM
Well I'm sure Dak would be willing to bare some skin for your assistance to the cause!

The Man
06-30-2011, 08:05 PM
we all know you're the one giving out favours Freed

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v449/Ace_Venom/graffiti.jpgOnly for you :-*

DK
06-30-2011, 08:11 PM
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we all know you're the one giving out favours Freed

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v449/Ace_Venom/graffiti.jpgOnly for you :-*</div>

I'll give you that one, if only for the fact it's the first time in history you haven't responded to that picture with "no u" and I can appreciate the amount of effort it must have taken you. :aimkiss:

demondude
06-30-2011, 08:14 PM
Your new avatar is inspiring me to change mine when I get home DD. I sense some wrestling machismo solidarity on the horizon.

Yes! I tried to get Kaycee to be Chyna but she didn't know who she was. I'm looking for someone to be Mankind so we can be all Rock'n'Sock Connection up in this shit.

The Man
06-30-2011, 08:17 PM
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we all know you're the one giving out favours Freed

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v449/Ace_Venom/graffiti.jpgOnly for you :-*</div>

I'll give you that one, if only for the fact it's the first time in history you haven't responded to that picture with "no u" and I can appreciate the amount of effort it must have taken you. :aimkiss:

no u :monster:

Del Murder
06-30-2011, 08:45 PM
With the best veteran and hardcore FF-fan Vivi22 signing in, our ranks become all that more beefed up. But you all still haven't seen our secret weapon. Who would be the ultimate prize in a FF-themed gang wars? That's right, he's coming...

demondude
06-30-2011, 08:47 PM
Supermillionaire!?

Del Murder
06-30-2011, 08:49 PM
Hm, I should rename him The Million Dollar Man Ted DiBiase

I Don't Need A Name
06-30-2011, 08:50 PM
Well we should all be thankfull that the Lionhearts haven't got Future Esthar...

demondude
06-30-2011, 08:50 PM
omfg yes. You should be Vince Mcmahon imo.

Del Murder
06-30-2011, 08:53 PM
No chance, that's what ya got..

Jessweeee♪
06-30-2011, 08:59 PM
Pffft what did the Returners even do? Herp derp while Kefka destroyed the world? Good going guys.

Rebellious Eagle
06-30-2011, 09:03 PM
I wanna join The Returners :D they're so much better than those Lionhearts and whatever else there is.

demondude
06-30-2011, 09:06 PM
Consider yourself Returned.

NorthernChaosGod
07-01-2011, 12:05 AM
Best FF gang or Bestest FF gang?

Del Murder
07-01-2011, 12:39 AM
That's like trying to choose between the Ragnarok Esper and Sword, both unique to FFVI. :smug:

Rebellious Eagle
07-01-2011, 12:53 AM
I vote for Bestest FF Gang. Incorrect grammar is awesomer than correct grammar.

Shorty
07-01-2011, 01:05 AM
Dear Returners,

Say goodbye to your wives and children. We're going to destroy you.

Love always,
The Lionhearts
AKA The Best and Most Fearsome Gang There Is

demondude
07-01-2011, 01:07 AM
I don't have any wives or children. :(

Shorty
07-01-2011, 01:10 AM
Your pets, then. Kiss them farewell!

demondude
07-01-2011, 01:18 AM
I don't have any pets. :(

Shorty
07-01-2011, 01:20 AM
Well then WHAT GOOD ARE YOU

sharkythesharkdogg
07-01-2011, 01:21 AM
I don't have any wives or children. :(

We know. We killed them, blended them into delicious smoothies, and fed them to you. Shorty already covered that.

I know Returners are knuckle dragging, ape-tards but please try and keep up!

demondude
07-01-2011, 01:21 AM
I wear tight pants and wrestle other men.

Edit: @ Shorty

Shorty
07-01-2011, 01:22 AM
Mmm, baby Returner smoothies.

NorthernChaosGod
07-01-2011, 01:33 AM
I think we all know how you're really getting those baby Returner smoothies.

*points to crotch*

/smug

Shorty
07-01-2011, 01:34 AM
You disgust me.

sharkythesharkdogg
07-01-2011, 01:36 AM
Soooo, you put your testicles in a blender? And then you drank them? I had a feeling the Returners were a gang of eunuchs. I guess you d-bags didn't have a hope of doing much else with 'em.

Jiro
07-01-2011, 01:36 AM
GET THE FUCK OUT OF HERE YOU PUSSYHEARTS. The Returners are pretty bitchin', whereas you shits are just SHIT HEADS. YEAH GO GET OUTTA HERE BEFORE I GO CRAZY ON YOUR ASS

http://bf3blog.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/06/cod.gif

Shorty
07-01-2011, 01:42 AM
BRING IT ON, JIRO

Jiro
07-01-2011, 01:51 AM
YOU CAN'T HANDLE THIS SHORTY. PLUS WHERE IS MY MUG, I WANT MY BEARD MUG :mad2:

Shorty
07-01-2011, 01:55 AM
I TOLD PONTUS TO GIVE YOU THE MESSAGE THAT I'M SHIPPING IT FRIDAY BECAUSE I FORGOT AND I'M A HORRIBLE FRIEND

Jiro, why are we fighting? We could be such great allies.

Jiro
07-01-2011, 02:00 AM
...that's a good point. Let me confer with my comrades, there might be something gold in here. The downfall of the Warriors and Secret Police is all I'm really after anyway.

PS you're so lovely :jess:

demondude
07-01-2011, 02:01 AM
There is no way in the Blue Hell The Rock will be allied with a buddy of the lionhearts.

Shiny
07-01-2011, 02:19 AM
You see this face? This the last face you will ever see. Take a good look.

Caboose
07-01-2011, 02:21 AM
To all members of "The Retarders Returners" :
Jesus hate you and so do I.

Shiny
07-01-2011, 02:23 AM
By the way, we have 7D. Yeah it's a thing.

Wolf Kanno
07-01-2011, 02:23 AM
Smurf off you Leontards, we're a rag tag bunch of psycho paths who even enlist 8 year old girls and old men to die for our cause. We saw the world end and kept going, your world's so lame that you had to outsource from the future to get a villain. Who finally got defeated by an emo jackass, who only did it after he finally got off his ass and stopped listening to Cure albums for five minutes, so he can finally get a girl, and remorse about her stealing his heart and virginity; and using his emo power and his impractical weapon to stop a time traveling stripper witch with a speech impediment, by finally showing her that you need to "walk down the lane, not across the street".

NorthernChaosGod
07-01-2011, 02:27 AM
You disgust me.

You're the one drinking from my milkshake maker.

NorthernChaosGod
07-01-2011, 02:28 AM
You see this face? This the last face you will ever see. Take a good look.

Of all the people to choose, you chose to be Rembrandt?!

Caboose
07-01-2011, 02:29 AM
I think we're the only gang yet to have a female member so join us for max sexism and no overt feminism.

With your ambiguous genetalia, I'm sure you'll suffice.

Slothy
07-01-2011, 02:31 AM
To all members of "The Retarders Returners" :
Jesus hate you and so do I.


Smurf off you Leontards, we're a rag tag bunch of psycho paths who even enlist 8 year old girls and old men to die for our cause. We saw the world end and kept going, your world's so lame that you had to outsource from the future to get a villain. Who finally got defeated by an emo jackass, who only did it after he finally got off his ass and stopped listening to Cure albums for five minutes, so he can finally get a girl, and remorse about her stealing his heart and virginity; and using his emo power and his impractical weapon to stop a time traveling stripper witch with a speech impediment, by finally showing her that you need to "walk down the lane, not across the street".

I fucking love you.

Mister Adequate
07-01-2011, 02:32 AM
Communists and hippies. Everywhere, that's all I see.

Caboose
07-01-2011, 02:34 AM
And communism never wins because they're all retards. Join the corrupt side of the forum. We have everything because we're not communists.

Shiny
07-01-2011, 02:39 AM
You see this face? This the last face you will ever see. Take a good look.

Of all the people to choose, you chose to be Rembrandt?!

Hush up, foo. I got a can of spray paint with your name on it.

(besides he's the cutest one obviously)

Wolf Kanno
07-01-2011, 02:40 AM
And communism never wins because they're all retards. Join the corrupt side of the forum. We have everything because we're not communists.

Or... you can actually join a group that's going to actually do something instead of boasting around on their make believe authority. We're going to bury you. :radred:

NorthernChaosGod
07-01-2011, 02:45 AM
@Shiny Keep talking and you're gonna get bopped.

Caboose
07-01-2011, 02:48 AM
And communism never wins because they're all retards. Join the corrupt side of the forum. We have everything because we're not communists.

Or... you can actually join a group that's going to actually do something instead of boasting around on their make believe authority. We're going to bury you. :radred:

No you won't. We have the Shovels. Because we're not Commies!

Shlup
07-01-2011, 02:52 AM
And communism never wins because they're all retards. Join the corrupt side of the forum. We have everything because we're not communists.

Or... you can actually join a group that's going to actually do something instead of boasting around on their make believe authority. We're going to bury you. :radred:

Getting owned doesn't count as "doing something."

Caboose
07-01-2011, 03:14 AM
You're all a bunch of dirty Shiznos (http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=shizno)

Shiny
07-01-2011, 03:18 AM
@Shiny Keep talking and you're gonna get bopped.

Monkeys don't scare me.

Rebellious Eagle
07-01-2011, 03:29 AM
Where's my shiny green title? I need it so I can show all these Squall fanboys who's boss. >:3

The Man
07-01-2011, 03:38 AM
All these people are obviously just upset their groups aren't attracting as much attention as ours. But yeah, c'mon, I'd like my green title please.

Rebellious Eagle
07-01-2011, 03:40 AM
I mean, pssh. Look at how many members the VII Warriors have...like...4? AHAHAHA what a pity.

Jiro
07-01-2011, 04:18 AM
I'm diggin' the Warrior-hate coming from the Returners camp. You guys are hood.

Slothy
07-01-2011, 04:19 AM
I didn't even have to ask for my title. Thor willed it into existence for he knew the side which will emerge victorious. All those who oppose us will tremble before the might of legendary Mjolnir!

NorthernChaosGod
07-01-2011, 04:24 AM
I'm down for some good ol' viking fury up in this mothersmurfer.

Jentleness
07-01-2011, 04:28 AM
I have returned, Demon Dude, to kick your skinny, smurfing ass!!! How dare you mess with my Kitty Power skin!!! :kaofight:

Shiny
07-01-2011, 04:28 AM
I mean, pssh. Look at how many members the VII Warriors have...like...4? AHAHAHA what a pity.

Quality over quantity, my dear.

Jiro
07-01-2011, 04:30 AM
:jess:

EDIT: Whoa some shit went down while I was smiling gleefully.

NOBODY MESSES WITH MY DEMON DUDE BUDDY.

SUPER MISFIT SPECIAL ATTTTAAAAAAACK


http://i185.photobucket.com/albums/x259/battleshinja12/Animated/Lyn1Critical.gif

Jentleness
07-01-2011, 04:37 AM
Don't make me hurt you, Dak Dak. :nonono:

Rebellious Eagle
07-01-2011, 04:41 AM
Jentleness is funny for trying to mess with the Returners xD

Jentleness
07-01-2011, 04:48 AM
Oh, no my dear, I am not messing with "the returners", I am messing with Demon Dude. I know he is behind this catastrophe! BTW Del Murder, you can hardly call yourself a returner if you have never left! :p

Hello Kitty's cuteness should not be defaced! :hello:

Del Murder
07-01-2011, 04:58 AM
Our gang's turf is ever increasing. By moving resources from our neutral border with the Misfits, we have been able to make many strides over the remaining areas controlled by the Warriors, Bandits, and Lionharts.

Has our ultimate weapon arrived yet? All who defy our superiority will pay once he is here.

Wolf Kanno
07-01-2011, 05:05 AM
Getting owned doesn't count as "doing something."

I take it that "getting owned" is Secret Police talk for, "Hey... you guys... Stop that, that's really mean, I'm going to tell on you..."

Face it Shlup, order is falling and a new Ruined World of EoFF is coming. Your rules no longer mean anything, EoFF will soon learn true fear... (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z9d4vVTCJyc)

Del Murder
07-01-2011, 05:09 AM
He is here... (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=585IUvyDkZo)

Rebellious Eagle
07-01-2011, 05:16 AM
Now we can decimated all our enemies! >:D bahaha. I'd like to see their Atma Weapons.

Jiro
07-01-2011, 05:17 AM
oh shi

Jentleness
07-01-2011, 05:18 AM
*Yawns*

Wolf Kanno
07-01-2011, 05:28 AM
Quick Hello Kitty Minion Squad Attack and kill them all in the name of Kefka!!!!

345053450634507

NorthernChaosGod
07-01-2011, 05:30 AM
The destroyer is manifest.

Jiro
07-01-2011, 05:42 AM
kill them all in the name of Kefka!!!!


Hey hey, wait up brotherman. The Misfits aren't idiots; we know we can't pose a threat to you, but together we can screw over everyone else. So don't be destroying us, yo.

Wolf Kanno
07-01-2011, 05:44 AM
Spare the Misfits then...

Jiro
07-01-2011, 05:58 AM
For your kindness, the Misfits will certainly help the Returners out with whatever they need!

RALLY IN SUPPORT BROTHERS, WE GOT OURSELVES ALLIES TO FOLLOW.

(Seriously you guys are tough, we'll follow your lead mostly ;))

Del Murder
07-01-2011, 06:06 AM
Bow before the might of Ultima Weapon. No other gang can even hope to amass a fraction of his power.

Rebellious Eagle
07-01-2011, 06:08 AM
So you'll help us take down all the others? :o

Jiro
07-01-2011, 07:04 AM
The Misfits are planning a raid on the Warriors. If you wish to assist, be ready for the signal!

G13
07-01-2011, 09:21 AM
Skimming this thread bores me. "We're better!" "no u... wait"

Prove it, bitches. :radred:

Pheesh
07-01-2011, 09:45 AM
Oh god, it's the pretentious indie loving equivalent of a gang. Go form a circle jerk if you really want to talk about how much better 2D is.

Wolf Kanno
07-01-2011, 10:02 AM
Skimming this thread bores me. "We're better!" "no u... wait"

Prove it, bitches. :radred:

Well, for one thing, we've got a longer thread than you, and your thread is mostly just a giant penis enlargement ad, cause like Cloud, VII Warriors need accessories to turn other peoples attention away from their "lack of equipment" if you know what I mean.

Face it, VII is a rip-off of VI. If you guys were really the better gang, you wouldn't be going after us so desperately. Face it, this thread has the most comments cause the VII and VIII fans no we will sneak into your thread at night and slit your throats where you sleep. :penciltrick:


Oh god, it's the pretentious indie loving equivalent of a gang. Go form a circle jerk if you really want to talk about how much better 2D is.

You're 3D did what exactly? Oh wait, I forgot, you're games are 3D models (mostly ugly) on a 2D platform and mostly play like a 2D game to begin with. Thank god 3D came and just changed everything... :roll2

My game had a Yeti, a prudish samurai, a badass ninja, a moogle, and a treasure hunter. You're game had an emo jackass, two emotionally dependant chicks with terribly fashion sense, a Yuffie Rip-off, and an Edgar rip-off who can't shoot when he's under pressure.

Not to mention, VI fans don't have to argue about whether an ill-conceived character is actually another character with cryptic Da Vinci Code style clues hidden throughout the game to tell the "real story". You just go back to your thread and continue discussing why R=U.

Pheesh
07-01-2011, 10:07 AM
...Well you guys smell of unwiped ass. So :expee:

Rantz
07-01-2011, 10:20 AM
The Bandits might consider putting aside enmity for the duration of this suggested raid against the smelly Warriors. Nobody likes them.

Wolf Kanno
07-01-2011, 10:21 AM
I concur...

Laddy
07-01-2011, 10:26 AM
Oh God let's reward a game who has a plot that is almost a carbon copy of Star Wars.

This game ripped off IV. Get over it.

G13
07-01-2011, 10:30 AM
Skimming this thread bores me. "We're better!" "no u... wait"

Prove it, bitches. :radred:

Well, for one thing, we've got a longer thread than you, and your thread is mostly just a giant penis enlargement ad, cause like Cloud, VII Warriors need accessories to turn other peoples attention away from their "lack of equipment" if you know what I mean.

Face it, VII is a rip-off of VI. If you guys were really the better gang, you wouldn't be going after us so desperately. Face it, this thread has the most comments cause the VII and VIII fans no we will sneak into your thread at night and slit your throats where you sleep. :penciltrick:

And you point out your big thread to make up for your small words. Honestly, I expected more of a fight from the "Returners best". And rip-off? VII... ripped off VI? You didn't have any "inspiration" ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Star_Wars) behind your creation? Thanks, man, I really had a good laugh. *I peed a little.

*That means my impossibly large dong wept with laughter as well.

Wolf Kanno
07-01-2011, 10:44 AM
So your argument is that VII is better cause it copies VI whereas VI sucks cause it copies star wars for half the game? So by extent, VII sucks cause its a copy of a copy... Thank you for agreeing to my point VII sucks. :D

Not like VII wasn't ripping off VI's main themes and hiding it behind a Shadowrun knockoff just to make it look different for the first few hours. But what's that you say?

"But UW, VII is so deep cause its about the environment!"

So was Captain Planet, so your saying VII is deep cause it says the same message that a 80s cartoon show did, which involved five minors running around the globe with a a half naked guy with mystical powers, who looked like a Blue Man Group reject?

If you want something deep, read a book, if you want a spiky haired guy kicking ass, watch DBZ or play Chrono Trigger, if you want to play something fun, go to the source, and play FFVI. It started the FF formula you crazy kids love and sadly give credit to your titles that came after.

Even Aerith's theme is a knockoff from the Opera Theme.

G13
07-01-2011, 10:51 AM
Oh, I struck a nerve. This is more like the Returners best I keep hearing about.

But sadly, for you, you are quite simply wrong. I won't waste my time arguing with you, though, as it will obviously fly right through the empty space between your ears.

"A copy of a copy" HA! :roll2

demondude
07-01-2011, 12:30 PM
I think we're the only gang yet to have a female member so join us for max sexism and no overt feminism.

With your ambiguous genetalia, I'm sure you'll suffice.


I have returned, Demon Dude, to kick your skinny, smurfing ass!!! How dare you mess with my Kitty Power skin!!! :kaofight:

http://www.uimages.org/wp-content/uploads/2011/05/the-rock-wwe-16486468-2560-1707.jpg

rrghhh ... rghh ..... rghhhhh.............

You think The Rock, THE most electrifying man in Sport entertainment gives a damn about what you think? You really do? Well ...

IT DOESN'T MATTER WHAT YOU THINK!

Because The Rock and THE MILLIONS of The Rock's fans are gonna shine up The Peoples' elbow, turn down the peoples' lights, and deliver one hell of an ass-whooping, you girly mothersmurfers. Now sit your candy asses down on those chairs like the jabronies The Rock has made you and suck 60 inches of reinforced PEOPLES' DICK, BITCH.

IF YA SMELLLLLLLLL WHAT THE ROCK IS COOKIN'.

Slothy
07-01-2011, 01:02 PM
I think it may be time to let Mr. Socko off the leash. I just spent the evening polishing the steel cage with the Undertakers face so he's good and sweaty and covered in the blood and saliva of that second rate hack, with a little of my own thrown in for good measure!

Now I don't know how much we really need some kind of Ultima Weapon for these fools. Especially when we already have THE ULTIMATE WEAPON! The Rock & Sock Connection!

demondude
07-01-2011, 01:04 PM
The Rock says he feels tears coming to his beautiful eyes.

Edit: smurf your sig limit and smurf the 'wz tag toruney' whatever that is. The Rock stole it and The Rock doesn't give a damn.

Caboose
07-01-2011, 05:30 PM
The Returners is a stupid name. As is the group. And your faces.

Shorty
07-01-2011, 06:48 PM
It IS a stupid name. Return to your stupid caves where you belong, you non-genius neanderthals.

Rebellious Eagle
07-01-2011, 06:54 PM
Lionhearts is even worse. Your atrocious behavior proves that you're not as noble as your name implies.

Shorty
07-01-2011, 06:55 PM
This is a revolution, babydoll. We're not having tea and crumpets with the Queen.

Caboose
07-01-2011, 07:10 PM
It IS a stupid name. Return to your stupid caves where you belong, you non-genius neanderthals.
And thats coming from a group of Australopithecines?

Shorty
07-01-2011, 07:20 PM
Nice try, constable.

Caboose
07-01-2011, 07:28 PM
Nice try, constable.

Another place, another time (next week maybe :P) we could have been friends. But now, rage and malice is all I bare for all of you.

The Man
07-01-2011, 08:34 PM
The Bandits might consider putting aside enmity for the duration of this suggested raid against the smelly Warriors. Nobody likes them.I would be heartily in favour of this. I've never had anything against IX.

NorthernChaosGod
07-01-2011, 11:09 PM
SNES > PSX

Prove me wrong, haters.

Jiro
07-02-2011, 04:29 AM
Nice try, constable.

More like :bou::bou::bou::bou:stable amirite?

Carl the Llama
07-02-2011, 04:37 AM
SNES > PSX

Prove me wrong, haters.

Final Fantasy VII
Legend of the Dragoon
Breath of Fire III and IV
Command and Conquer
Lunar SSSC
Grandia
3D Graphics.
I could go on but after so many devastating blows you should be in your grave by now. noob.

EDIT: also this: Playstation worldwide console sales figure: 102.49 million SNES worldwide sales figures 49.10 million.

Wolf Kanno
07-02-2011, 05:13 AM
Oh, I struck a nerve. This is more like the Returners best I keep hearing about.

But sadly, for you, you are quite simply wrong. I won't waste my time arguing with you, though, as it will obviously fly right through the empty space between your ears.

"A copy of a copy" HA! :roll2

More like you're running away cause you know you don't have nothing to counter me with, just run away with your little tale between your legs. :p



SNES > PSX

Prove me wrong, haters.

Final Fantasy VII
Legend of the Dragoon
Breath of Fire III and IV
Command and Conquer
Lunar SSSC
Grandia
3D Graphics.
I could go on but after so many devastating blows you should be in your grave by now. noob.

EDIT: also this: Playstation worldwide console sales figure: 102.49 million SNES worldwide sales figures 49.10 million.

Which most of its sales are from us kids growing up in the awesome SNES era who finally entered the working force.

Besides, we got:

Final Fantasy VI
FFIV
Secret of Mana
Super Metroid
Star Fox
Castlevania IV
Super Star Wars Trilogy
Mortal Kombat
Street Fighter II
Donkey Kong Country
Legend of Zelda: A Link to the Past (which every Zelda has been based on since)
Lost Vikings
Lufia II
Breath of Fire II
and finally Chrono Trigger, which in my book pretty much disavows anything your load time chugging, crappy 3D games could muster up. :p

Del Murder
07-02-2011, 05:14 AM
Nothing can defeat the Ultima Weapon! We are unstoppable! *kefka laugh*

Rebellious Eagle
07-02-2011, 05:17 AM
SNES > PSX

Prove me wrong, haters.

Final Fantasy VII
Legend of the Dragoon
Breath of Fire III and IV
Command and Conquer
Lunar SSSC
Grandia
3D Graphics.
I could go on but after so many devastating blows you should be in your grave by now. noob.

EDIT: also this: Playstation worldwide console sales figure: 102.49 million SNES worldwide sales figures 49.10 million.

Eww, FFVII? That game's a piece of glorified shit. SNES has the real treasures of the Final Fantasy series.

NorthernChaosGod
07-02-2011, 05:38 AM
Oh, I struck a nerve. This is more like the Returners best I keep hearing about.

But sadly, for you, you are quite simply wrong. I won't waste my time arguing with you, though, as it will obviously fly right through the empty space between your ears.

"A copy of a copy" HA! :roll2

More like you're running away cause you know you don't have nothing to counter me with, just run away with your little tale between your legs. :p



SNES > PSX

Prove me wrong, haters.

Final Fantasy VII
Legend of the Dragoon
Breath of Fire III and IV
Command and Conquer
Lunar SSSC
Grandia
3D Graphics.
I could go on but after so many devastating blows you should be in your grave by now. noob.

EDIT: also this: Playstation worldwide console sales figure: 102.49 million SNES worldwide sales figures 49.10 million.

Which most of its sales are from us kids growing up in the awesome SNES era who finally entered the working force.

Besides, we got:

Final Fantasy VI
FFIV
Secret of Mana
Super Metroid
Star Fox
Castlevania IV
Super Star Wars Trilogy
Mortal Kombat
Street Fighter II
Donkey Kong Country
Legend of Zelda: A Link to the Past (which every Zelda has been based on since)
Lost Vikings
Lufia II
Breath of Fire II
and finally Chrono Trigger, which in my book pretty much disavows anything your load time chugging, crappy 3D games could muster up. :p

Along with Earthbound, Super Mario RPG and Super Mario World. Suck on it, haters.

Goldenboko
07-02-2011, 05:44 AM
Oh yeah? Well we got Death Star. Bitchez.

Del Murder
07-02-2011, 06:40 AM
I have some terrible news. I woke up today to find the corpse of our beloved Demon Dude at our doorstep. Someone is trying to send us a message, and I think it is our long time rivals, the Warriors!

Returners we must not let his death go unavenged! I say we gather all our might and settle this in a showdown. Guardian XIII, fierce member of the Warriors, has been called out, and Jiro has decided to represent the Misfits-Returners alliance in this battle. Let us go to this showdown that will avenge our fallen comrade!

Jentleness
07-02-2011, 07:00 AM
I never did finish FFVI, I got to the tower and then I guess I lost interest or something. :eep:

NorthernChaosGod
07-02-2011, 08:42 AM
Oh yeah? Well we got Death Star. Bitchez.
I'm sorry I have to break this to you, but that got blown up.

Twice.

Carl the Llama
07-02-2011, 01:43 PM
SNES > PSX

Prove me wrong, haters.

Final Fantasy VII
Legend of the Dragoon
Breath of Fire III and IV
Command and Conquer
Lunar SSSC
Grandia
3D Graphics.
I could go on but after so many devastating blows you should be in your grave by now. noob.

EDIT: also this: Playstation worldwide console sales figure: 102.49 million SNES worldwide sales figures 49.10 million.

Which most of its sales are from us kids growing up in the awesome SNES era who finally entered the working force.

Besides, we got:

Final Fantasy VI
FFIV
Secret of Mana
Super Metroid
Star Fox
Castlevania IV
Super Star Wars Trilogy
Mortal Kombat
Street Fighter II
Donkey Kong Country
Legend of Zelda: A Link to the Past (which every Zelda has been based on since)
Lost Vikings
Lufia II
Breath of Fire II
and finally Chrono Trigger, which in my book pretty much disavows anything your load time chugging, crappy 3D games could muster up. :p

Well for a start I will address the "most of your sales are from us" part: Yes, I do concede that SOME of the sales did come from people who bought a SNES many moons ago but I forgot you people can't do math so let me explain it to you with little words: 102 - 49 = 53 so that means that if every single person who owned a SNES bought a Playstation that still means over half those sales were non SNES owning people (which still beats your measly 49.10 million sales) and besides even if every one of you SNES owners DID buy a Playstation, its obvious why: You guys recognise that the Playstation is THE superior console, a console who's sales can only be beaten by the Playstation 2 (which isn't really being beaten because the PS2 can still play PS1 games) so let me ask you this: where is the backwards compatibility for the SNES? oh right Nintendo are a bunch of money grabbing bastards and don't give a smurf if people's old games never get replayed again, unless its to make a port to their handheld consoles.

Nintendo - which has been around 11 years more then Sony - has stumped up sales of consoles on all 5 machines equals 251.77 million consoles sold world wide, PS1 and PS2 alone can beat that without the extra numbers the PS3 brings to the equation with world wide sales of 252.49 million with PS3 added to that it becomes 302.49 million consoles sold world wide, which lets face it, rapes the tit out of Nintendo's sales.

After that I have further damning evidence: Nintendo had the contract for FFVII but somehow they managed to smurf it up and so Squaresoft went over to the PS1 and the resulting game was the most epic game of the entire series.

Sales of Final Fantasy VII has reached over 10 million copies sold worldwide with Final Fantasy VI barely reaching 3.48 million (including the re-release sold on... you guessed it THE PS1!!!!). When FFVII was released on PSN it sold 100,000 copies within 2 weeks making it the fastest selling PSN game ever released.

Now, lets go into those games you mentioned:

Final Fantasy VI
FFIV
Secret of Mana
Super Metroid
These here are admittedly good games, but they no where near match the calibre of the games released on the PS1.

Star Fox
Castlevania IV
Super Star Wars Trilogy
Mortal Kombat
Street Fighter II
Donkey Kong Country
These games I have put a strike through because lets face it, they are lame games, Street Fighter II I might add has had considerably better instalments on the Playstation.

Legend of Zelda: A Link to the Past (which every Zelda has been based on since)
Your basically admitting that if you have played one of these games, then you have played all of them, lets face it: it's pathetic never changing story same Zelda same Link each game is released with the same story over and over again each with a a little twist on the gameplay element of the game.

Lost Vikings
I have never even heard of this game, which goes to show how "popular" it is.

Lufia II
An average game imo, I played and enjoyed it, but it doesn't stick in my mind as being an epic game.

Breath of Fire II
While Breath of Fire II was an awesome game, Breath of Fire III and IV are much better games, which is evidenced by Wolf Kanno's Breath of Fire Appreciation thread.

Chrono Trigger
The SNES landmark RPG title, indeed an awesome game but 1 game alone cannot stand up to the might of the Playstation.

G13
07-02-2011, 01:47 PM
Hey now, come on. Keep it dirty, guys. No one wants to read long ass posts, they want to see the streets run red with your blood.

Slothy
07-02-2011, 05:00 PM
I have some terrible news. I woke up today to find the corpse of our beloved Demon Dude at our doorstep. Someone is trying to send us a message, and I think it is our long time rivals, the Warriors!

Returners we must not let his death go unavenged! I say we gather all our might and settle this in a showdown. Guardian XIII, fierce member of the Warriors, has been called out, and Jiro has decided to represent the Misfits-Returners alliance in this battle. Let us go to this showdown that will avenge our fallen comrade!

There will be blood and sweatsocks! It's hell in a cell baby! DD's death will be avenged!

Carl the Llama
07-02-2011, 05:22 PM
I have some terrible news. I woke up today to find the corpse of our beloved Demon Dude at our doorstep. Someone is trying to send us a message, and I think it is our long time rivals, the Warriors!

Returners we must not let his death go unavenged! I say we gather all our might and settle this in a showdown. Guardian XIII, fierce member of the Warriors, has been called out, and Jiro has decided to represent the Misfits-Returners alliance in this battle. Let us go to this showdown that will avenge our fallen comrade!

There will be blood and sweatsocks! It's hell in a cell baby! DD's death will be avenged!

Funny I thought it was your leader that made the motion to have DD killed, do I smell Civil War in the Returners Camp!

NorthernChaosGod
07-02-2011, 07:27 PM
tl;dr

You have piss poor taste in gangs and in video games. Prepare for annihilation.

Carl the Llama
07-02-2011, 07:53 PM
tl;dr

You have piss poor taste in gangs and in video games. Prepare for annihilation.

Whatever happened to my computer is better then yours? oh right I TRASHED THAT IDEA, bitch.

NorthernChaosGod
07-02-2011, 08:02 PM
It is a poor workman who blames his tools, and only an idiot would claim the console hardware itself makes superiority.

Our games > your games, bitch.

demondude
07-02-2011, 08:37 PM
You're all smurfs and you let me die. Bandits ftw.

Edit: Thanks for nothing, Mankind. I Should have stayed with The Nation of Domination. :|

Carl the Llama
07-02-2011, 08:44 PM
It is a poor workman who blames his tools, and only an idiot would claim the console hardware itself makes superiority.

Our games > your games, bitch.


SNES > PSX

Prove me wrong, haters.

Ahh, something I can get on board with, you callin yo self an idiot Julie? xD on this statement I agree 100% joo fool!

Del Murder
07-02-2011, 10:07 PM
I have heard news that Jiro failed in his mission (http://forums.eyesonff.com/general-chat/137692-ffvii-makes-you-larger-3.html#post3001042). GuardianXIII lives and the Warriors grow stronger. We must destroy them and end this conflict. Fortunately, I have a secret plan in the works that will catch them unawares. Good thing they can't read this thread and know it is coming.

Shiny
07-02-2011, 10:37 PM
Wait...what's that sound? Aw hell. My theme song (http://youtu.be/CHbYLjWEEQA)!

Carl the Llama
07-02-2011, 10:42 PM
Wait...what's that sound? Aw hell. My theme song (http://youtu.be/CHbYLjWEEQA)!

AWWWW YEAAAAA


I have heard news that Jiro failed in his mission (http://forums.eyesonff.com/general-chat/137692-ffvii-makes-you-larger-3.html#post3001042). GuardianXIII lives and the Warriors grow stronger. We must destroy them and end this conflict. Fortunately, I have a secret plan in the works that will catch them unawares. Good thing they can't read this thread and know it is coming.

THATS RIGHT BITCHES!! Mess with the Mighty Warriors the trouncers of CANCER and your as good as dead!

Ya god damn right we grow stronger, NONE can match us in sheer might! Surrender and Die!

Shiny
07-02-2011, 11:11 PM
FFVI Returners icon thing looks like a pacifier or one of those ring lollies.

Del Murder
07-03-2011, 12:04 AM
ring pop 4 lyfe

Del Murder
07-03-2011, 01:46 AM
Agent Proto has defected to the Returners. Since he is a master gambler, all of our units get +10 luck when he is in the field. We will surely need it, as the Warriors are becoming ever the stronger.

Slothy
07-03-2011, 02:20 AM
You're all smurfs and you let me die. Bandits ftw.

Edit: Thanks for nothing, Mankind. I Should have stayed with The Nation of Domination. :|

Maybe now you'll think twice about throwing a personally autographed copy of your partners autobiography in the trash.

There was only one way things could ever have gone between us after that. Returners forever!

Ace Protorney
07-03-2011, 04:37 AM
Aw yeah, I bringing the luck to the field.

demondude
07-03-2011, 12:57 PM
You're all smurfs and you let me die. Bandits ftw.

Edit: Thanks for nothing, Mankind. I Should have stayed with The Nation of Domination. :|

Maybe now you'll think twice about throwing a personally autographed copy of your partners autobiography in the trash.

There was only one way things could ever have gone between us after that. Returners forever!

We know how that "I Quit" match went at the Royal Rumble. Wanna try again, bitch?

Rebellious Eagle
07-03-2011, 07:11 PM
Psh, DD, you tried to start your own party. Away from us. Your homeboys. :<

demondude
07-03-2011, 07:13 PM
In my defense I don't actually remember doing it, and so I don't hold myself fully accountable. I was vulnerable and you guys turned on me. :(

G13
07-03-2011, 10:42 PM
You make the greatest decisions when drunk. :greenie:

NorthernChaosGod
07-04-2011, 12:30 AM
You drunken slob. :mad2:

Carl the Llama
07-04-2011, 02:45 AM
In my defense I don't actually remember doing it, and so I don't hold myself fully accountable. I was vulnerable and you guys turned on me. :(

I wouldn't worry about it DD Warriors are going to win this anyways, you just ended your suffering quicker lol.

NorthernChaosGod
07-04-2011, 03:23 AM
Ninja, please.

Carl the Llama
07-04-2011, 03:29 AM
Dual Sword wielding Cloud and Mighty Summon monsters, Please.

Edge7
07-05-2011, 07:40 AM
Dual wielding treasure hunter who can mug your ass twice in a row, cast a plethora of spells on you, and then rob you of your MP by casting Osmose just so he can do it to you all over again, please.

What now son? Warriors be wishin' they could customize that much without spending so many slots on "All" materia.

Wolf Kanno
07-05-2011, 07:54 AM
Let's go with your titles if we're going to be nitpicky.

Final Fantasy VII - A 3D knockoff that heavily borrowed ideas from other games, mostly SoM, FFVI, and Chrono Trigger. If you owned an SNES, VII was mostly a "been there done that" experience, with some cool cutscenes and a heavy dose of anime. Hell, if you were watching what was popular in Japan at the time, it only adds to the "been there done that, got the T-Shirt" feel of the game. Its big plot twist is the main character is a whiny little bitch. Shit, VI starts with a whiny bitch and it ends with her owning a big pair of brass balls :ffvisad:

Legend of the Dragoon - Is frankly not that good, its got cheesy VA work, a combat system that is more frustrating than fun, a terrible plot.

Breath of Fire III and IV - I'll concede on this but I feel BoFII is underappreciated by the BoF community cause much like FFVII, most RPG fans in the BoF series started with the PS1 generation, so most didn't touch the game until they were set in their ways...

Command and Conquer - Heard of it and never bothered to play. Besides the game's plot is cheesy as hell, and it kept using those god awful live action cutscenes that were more laughable than cool.

Lunar SSSC - Originally a Sega CD game, then a port on the Sega Saturn, you can't claim a port. :p Its still a good game, but its a port with a facelift.

Grandia - Originally a Sega Saturn Game, see above... :p Also, while Grandia has a great battle system, it has a terrible story and a really cheesy cast, not to mention the god awful VA work.

3D Graphics. - That were mostly terribly. Even you have to admit, 3D didn't come into its own until the PS2 era, and Playstation wasn't even the first console to have 3D, once again, the Sega Saturn beat the Sony to the punch.



quoteWhich most of its sales are from us kids growing up in the awesome SNES era who finally entered the working force.



Well for a start I will address the "most of your sales are from us" part: Yes, I do concede that SOME of the sales did come from people who bought a SNES many moons ago but I forgot you people can't do math so let me explain it to you with little words: 102 - 49 = 53 so that means that if every single person who owned a SNES bought a Playstation that still means over half those sales were non SNES owning people (which still beats your measly 49.10 million sales) and besides even if every one of you SNES owners DID buy a Playstation, its obvious why: You guys recognise that the Playstation is THE superior console, a console who's sales can only be beaten by the Playstation 2 (which isn't really being beaten because the PS2 can still play PS1 games) so let me ask you this: where is the backwards compatibility for the SNES? oh right Nintendo are a bunch of money grabbing bastards and don't give a smurf if people's old games never get replayed again, unless its to make a port to their handheld consoles.

Nintendo - which has been around 11 years more then Sony - has stumped up sales of consoles on all 5 machines equals 251.77 million consoles sold world wide, PS1 and PS2 alone can beat that without the extra numbers the PS3 brings to the equation with world wide sales of 252.49 million with PS3 added to that it becomes 302.49 million consoles sold world wide, which lets face it, rapes the tit out of Nintendo's sales.

You're forgetting the Sega fans in this equations, who also make up part of the Sony demographic, and frankly, I feel many former Sega fanboys have turned to the mighty Sony to avenge their companies ruin. The other issue here is that it was because the Genesis/SNES era making games more acceptable to the public after the debacle of the Atari in the early 80s. Had the Playstation been released in the early 90s, it would have suffered the same fate as the Atari Jaguar and Sega CD, an expensive novelty item. I mean shit, the PS1's starting lineup was terrible, and they've even aged worse.

As for backwards compatibility, Yes, the N64 didn't have it, but faulting Nintendo now, for releasing old games through WiiWare or ports, which offer the ability to actually play them on the go, and was doing so several years later before Sony came up with their own version, is frankly silly, cause Nintendo moved to a new medium, its not like the Playstation can play cartridges.

Also, let's look at Sony's accomplishments, how about that robust online networking on the PS2? Oh, wait, it never happened outside of SOCOM, and after Squenix invested so much into launching it with FFXI. Let's talk about the fact, Sony doesn't even make PS3's with backwards compatibility, and while they are kind enough to sell you back your PS1 games to play on the systems hardware, you're still screwed for playing PS2 games, and even the PS3s that did have Backwards compatibility, have a pretty nasty habit of breaking down on that front. I own one of them, and I have to say my PS3 is only for PS3 games, cause it can't play the others worth shit. Even if you can get them running, the system can't play old memory cards (like the Wii can) so what's the point of backwards compatibility if its going to make you start from scratch. You're better off just buying a used PS1 or PS2 and spend the other $250 you would have saved by doing so, on the now super cheap games they have.

BC, was nice for one generation and then Sony screwed it up. Sure Nintendo ported old classics onto the GBs but that was a decade before Sony actually got around to getting the portable DL onto the PSP to work and even then, I feel the pickings are rather slim. I can play almost every classic on the DS, I still can't get BoF4 or Suikoden 2 on the PSN network. It took until this year for SE to get off their ass and finally release most of their library.


After that I have further damning evidence: Nintendo had the contract for FFVII but somehow they managed to smurf it up and so Squaresoft went over to the PS1 and the resulting game was the most epic game of the entire series.

This was simply about the choice of hardware technology. Nintendo wanted to keep cartridge based games but Square wanted more room to work with and left Nintendo for Sony. Interesting fact, Sakeguchi wanted to port FFIV-VI to the GBA back when the handheld released , but Nintendo refused, and only agreed to do it after Sakaguchi left SE.

This is easily one of the bigger blunders in gaming, but also having a poor excuse for defense for your customers personal data that allows any hacker who can breach your defenses get the whole bounty, doesn't seem like a great idea in hindsight either. ;)


Sales of Final Fantasy VII has reached over 10 million copies sold worldwide with Final Fantasy VI barely reaching 3.48 million (including the re-release sold on... you guessed it THE PS1!!!!). When FFVII was released on PSN it sold 100,000 copies within 2 weeks making it the fastest selling PSN game ever released.

Actually, counting the sales from the FF Chronicles/Anthology versions of the games, VI has reached past 4 million, the collections are not usually counted in this number, nor has the downloaded versions or VI Advance, so the number is actually higher. The other thing to note is that VII was the first FF released worldwide, VI never reached the PAL regions until FFIX was released, by then it was old and charming, as opposed to be new. Also when you think about how VII is popular in PAL regions and part of that is because their only experience with FF was FFI and Mystic Quest, I can see how these poor people truly believed VII was good, when they can only compare it to utter crap and ancient relics. :p

Besides, VII is a shadow of its former self, SE is just going to milk you people with silly spin-offs and sequels, while dangling the carrot that is a remake in the distance, as if buying all this crap tells SE they need to make it, when all its really doing is telling them they can slap Cloud and Sephiroth onto a magical pony raising simulator and you people will lap it off the ground like it was gold. :roll2

I'll take my lesser success over one that is being run into the ground by a company that is bankrupt of imagination and ideas.


Now, lets go into those games you mentioned:

Final Fantasy VI
FFIV
Secret of Mana
Super Metroid
These here are admittedly good games, but they no where near match the calibre of the games released on the PS1.

I disagree. While the PS1 certainly has its number of games that are on the same caliber, I don't feel their are many if any that are better.


Star Fox
Castlevania IV
Super Star Wars Trilogy
Mortal Kombat
Street Fighter II
Donkey Kong Country
These games I have put a strike through because lets face it, they are lame games, Street Fighter II I might add has had considerably better instalments on the Playstation.

No, you just have lousy taste, DKC is a classic and actually one of the most financially successful franchises for Nintendo, which irritates Miyamoto. MK1 and 2 are the only popular entries in the MK franchise, and Super Street Fighter 2 Turbo is still considered by the SF community as the definitive entry in the franchise and the best game. You'll still be seeing people playing them at tournaments as opposed to the SF:EX series, which most SF fans try to forget it exists and the Alpha series which died with SFA3. Hell the SNES actually got SFA1 and 2 and they are technically the better entries in terms of unlockables and cinematic elements. SFA3 just has a huge roster filled with Shoto clones and Cammy pallette swaps.

Star Fox is also a great game and the series would be better if Nintendo stopped trying to make them into space epics. It is actually one of the best dog fighting experience on the old consoles. The Super Star Wars series is a fun side scrolling adventure, and until recently, was considered one of the few Star Wars games to escape the Gundam curse, by actually being playable.


Legend of Zelda: A Link to the Past (which every Zelda has been based on since)
Your basically admitting that if you have played one of these games, then you have played all of them, lets face it: it's pathetic never changing story same Zelda same Link each game is released with the same story over and over again each with a a little twist on the gameplay element of the game.

Yeah, just like Halo, RE, Silent Hill, and DQ and several other gaming franchises. When a franchise starts getting past the 10 year mark, you either stick to the formula or gamble on a revamp. The Zelda games do play differently, but its is also very formulaic. Its like going into a Silent Hill game and already knowing combat is going to be terribly to keep up the drama. They could fix it but then you get what happened to the RE series which has mostly split the fanbase.

Zelda always offers a new take on everything. Twilight Princess certainly found new and unique ways to use the metal boots accessory which was really remarkable. Overall, I feel your argument is just irrelevant cause most games don't dramatically alter the formula that made them successful, even SE tends to get reamed (VIII and XIII) when they alter the formula too much. This is just the usual argument Nintendo Haters make to talk smack about Nintendo franchises, without realizing their caught in a hypocrisy itself. LttP created the franchises formula, OoT introduced 3D elements (which actually created a different gaming experience as opposed to FFVII which still plays like a 16-bit game) and Z-Targeting, Wind Waker introduced a re-emphasis on exploration and gave Link the ability to disarm and pick up enemy weapons for unique combat, and Twilight Princess created more ways to utilize several of the old time fave items and unique dungeons like the Abominable Snowman mansion. Each game is unique from each other.

I feel Mega Man has more issues with being formulaic than Zelda does, shit how could I forget MMX!? Another great series on the SNES and one that actually began to shake up the MM formula, with a darker story, wall climbing, and collecting armor and health items.



Lost Vikings
I have never even heard of this game, which goes to show how "popular" it is.
It was a cool 2D side scroller where you played 3 dwarves, each with a unique ability that allowed you to get past certain puzzles, its biggest notoriety was being one of the first titles for a future big company. (http://us.blizzard.com/en-us/) If, you've played WoW you've probably met them.


Lufia II
An average game imo, I played and enjoyed it, but it doesn't stick in my mind as being an epic game.
To each their own I guess


Breath of Fire II
While Breath of Fire II was an awesome game, Breath of Fire III and IV are much better games, which is evidenced by Wolf Kanno's Breath of Fire Appreciation thread.

II is underappreciated if you ask me. I feel its the first really good BoF, and like many SNES titles that found future installments on the PSX, I felt it layed the groundwork for those games, the Fairy Colony, Master System, and mulitple endings, can all can be traced back to BoF2 and its unique systems. Besides, BoF2 has an epic final conflict which begins with the Big Bad murdering your whole party except your hero, and its the only entry in the series that has three endings :D


Chrono Trigger
The SNES landmark RPG title, indeed an awesome game but 1 game alone cannot stand up to the might of the Playstation.

I beg to differ, especially since the PSX could only muster up a semi-good sequel that is only a good game on its own merits. Besides, CT has had the remake spiel even longer than VII has.

NorthernChaosGod
07-05-2011, 11:07 AM
And that's a motherfucking homerun.

G13
07-05-2011, 11:56 AM
If only your big, fancy arguments could save you now. What a pity. :greenie:

NorthernChaosGod
07-05-2011, 11:58 AM
Please, you dead.

Wolf Kanno
07-05-2011, 12:09 PM
If only your big, fancy arguments could save you now. What a pity. :greenie:

Dude, I will sic a demon on your eternal ass. Go back to the Farplane, the most poorly contrived afterlife in the FF series, and this is coming from a guy supporting a game where the dead are ferried on a train that can be suplexed by a moron. :ffvilaugh:

Don't make me go Yasunori Kato (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yasunori_Kato) on your ass.

G13
07-05-2011, 12:39 PM
You misunderstand.

You're fucking dead. ( http://forums.eyesonff.com/general-chat/137754-battle-approaches-2.html#post3001917)

Jiro
07-05-2011, 01:24 PM
So are you, so I don't know if you can really gloat. :greenie:

G13
07-05-2011, 01:55 PM
Who's gloating? I'm just being a dick. :p

demondude
07-05-2011, 02:11 PM
I'm pretty big on necrophilia so run your asses away from The Returner thread.

Steve
07-05-2011, 03:05 PM
I'm pretty big on using hand grenades to even the odds ;)

The Man
07-05-2011, 10:03 PM
well this is smurfing awful. Mothersmurfers better avenge me.

NorthernChaosGod
07-05-2011, 10:39 PM
You misunderstand.

You're smurfing dead. ( http://forums.eyesonff.com/general-chat/137754-battle-approaches-2.html#post3001917)
I like to be spanked.

Del Murder
07-05-2011, 11:33 PM
The bullets came fast and furious, and we took many losses. But the ULTIMATE WEAPON is too valuable to be kept on the front lines. He stands vigilant ever by my side, in the deep recesses of the Returner caves.

NCG was shacked up with one of his whores so he missed the whole ordeal.

RE, the assassin, used her powers of stealth to get away with nigh a scratch.

Edge7, the rookie, was gravely wounded but yet recovers.

Bunny, Chris, The Man, Vivi, and Agent Proto (looks like his luck ran out) weren't so fortunate. :(

NorthernChaosGod
07-05-2011, 11:39 PM
Their deaths shall be avenged!

EDIT: Apparently not by me.

Rebellious Eagle
07-06-2011, 12:48 AM
Because you were too busy with your whore. Tsk, tsk.

Carl the Llama
07-06-2011, 04:21 AM
Let's go with your titles if we're going to be nitpicky.

Final Fantasy VII - A 3D knockoff that heavily borrowed ideas from other games, mostly SoM, FFVI, and Chrono Trigger. If you owned an SNES, VII was mostly a "been there done that" experience, with some cool cutscenes and a heavy dose of anime. Hell, if you were watching what was popular in Japan at the time, it only adds to the "been there done that, got the T-Shirt" feel of the game. Its big plot twist is the main character is a whiny little bitch. tit, VI starts with a whiny bitch and it ends with her owning a big pair of brass balls :ffvisad:

Heavily borrowed idea's from previous games? I assume here you are talking about the FFVII Limit break system, saying it borrowed heavily from the system in VI is like saying a Cigar borrowed heavily from a roll up, the Limit break system is so much more advanced, the Materia system was completely unique, and if it is the story you are talking about, what story has not been used again and again and again, its like saying Mars bars borrowed from... Lion bars because they are both chocolate.


Legend of the Dragoon - Is frankly not that good, its got cheesy VA work, a combat system that is more frustrating than fun, a terrible plot.
Not that good? it seemed to be quite successful on GameFAQ's with an average review score of 8.5... which tbh is a great score imo, sure the voice acting wasn't the best, and I agree that the combat system was not to everyones tastes but I personally loved the combat system, its hard, sure but since when has making a game more difficult a bad thing? I personally loved the challenge.


Breath of Fire III and IV - I'll concede on this but I feel BoFII is underappreciated by the BoF community cause much like FFVII, most RPG fans in the BoF series started with the PS1 generation, so most didn't touch the game until they were set in their ways...
While most did not start with II I did, I have been with BoF for an age and I am still adamant that III and IV are better then II, granted II is a little underrated, but tbh I still feel III and IV are much better games.


Command and Conquer - Heard of it and never bothered to play. Besides the game's plot is cheesy as hell, and it kept using those god awful live action cutscenes that were more laughable than cool.
There is an age old saying that goes a little like this: Don't judge a book by its cover, if you have not played the games how can you pass judgement on it? from word of mouth? if I had never played FFVI I would think (by the amount of champions it has on this forum) that it was the greatest game ever created, it is not, and you who have not even touched this game cannot judge a game by what others have said about it, it is said that for every 1 person who speaks up saying they hate a game, there are 20 others who loved it and did not speak up, I hold that this may not be true with every game out there but this is one of those I believe would be among those titles.


Lunar SSSC - Originally a Sega CD game, then a port on the Sega Saturn, you can't claim a port. :p Its still a good game, but its a port with a facelift.
Yes, it is a port, but every one who I have spoken to who have played both games have all agreed the SSSC version of the game is much better, its like comparing Lufia to Lufia 2 (I have played both games fyi).


Grandia - Originally a Sega Saturn Game, see above... :p Also, while Grandia has a great battle system, it has a terrible story and a really cheesy cast, not to mention the god awful VA work.
Each to their own I guess, I liked the VA, Justin was spot on imo and sure the story was cheesy but thats what makes it endearing to me, when Sue left it was a great scene and Puffy was just plain awesome.


3D Graphics. - That were mostly terribly. Even you have to admit, 3D didn't come into its own until the PS2 era, and Playstation wasn't even the first console to have 3D, once again, the Sega Saturn beat the Sony to the punch.
Sure Sega Saturn was the first for 3D but its much more refined on the PS1 plus the sales of the Sega Saturn are hardly worth mentioning, and when you say the 3D of the PS1 sucked, I have got to laugh, did you never play Abe's Odessey? the graphics were amazing and the battle sprites in FFVII were also amazing for their time, obviously there are much better graphics not but for their time the graphics on FFVII were simply amazing and saying otherwise I can only say that yes, the graphics have not aged well, but back then the graphics were supreme. FMV in VII for January 1st 1997 was simply staggering.



Which most of its sales are from us kids growing up in the awesome SNES era who finally entered the working force.



Well for a start I will address the "most of your sales are from us" part: Yes, I do concede that SOME of the sales did come from people who bought a SNES many moons ago but I forgot you people can't do math so let me explain it to you with little words: 102 - 49 = 53 so that means that if every single person who owned a SNES bought a Playstation that still means over half those sales were non SNES owning people (which still beats your measly 49.10 million sales) and besides even if every one of you SNES owners DID buy a Playstation, its obvious why: You guys recognise that the Playstation is THE superior console, a console who's sales can only be beaten by the Playstation 2 (which isn't really being beaten because the PS2 can still play PS1 games) so let me ask you this: where is the backwards compatibility for the SNES? oh right Nintendo are a bunch of money grabbing bastards and don't give a smurf if people's old games never get replayed again, unless its to make a port to their handheld consoles.

Nintendo - which has been around 11 years more then Sony - has stumped up sales of consoles on all 5 machines equals 251.77 million consoles sold world wide, PS1 and PS2 alone can beat that without the extra numbers the PS3 brings to the equation with world wide sales of 252.49 million with PS3 added to that it becomes 302.49 million consoles sold world wide, which lets face it, rapes the tit out of Nintendo's sales.

You're forgetting the Sega fans in this equations, who also make up part of the Sony demographic, and frankly, I feel many former Sega fanboys have turned to the mighty Sony to avenge their companies ruin. The other issue here is that it was because the Genesis/SNES era making games more acceptable to the public after the debacle of the Atari in the early 80s. Had the Playstation been released in the early 90s, it would have suffered the same fate as the Atari Jaguar and Sega CD, an expensive novelty item. I mean tit, the PS1's starting lineup was terrible, and they've even aged worse. if they were trying to avenge Sega, I think they would have done a better job of buying the Sega Dreamcast, but lets put that aside for a moment and consider: even if they did buy the PS1 "to avenge the their companies ruin" it got sold, it has only ever been beaten in console sales by its successor the PS2, which is the best selling console of all time, bar none. Also arguing that if it was released earlier at the same time as the Jag or the Sega CD is like arguing that if VII was released on the SNES it would be a better game, its pointless, and despite having an incredibly weak starting line up it still managed to be the second highest selling console of all time. How do you explain that?


As for backwards compatibility, Yes, the N64 didn't have it, but faulting Nintendo now, for releasing old games through WiiWare or ports, which offer the ability to actually play them on the go, and was doing so several years later before Sony came up with their own version, is frankly silly, cause Nintendo moved to a new medium, its not like the Playstation can play cartridges.I am not faulting them for making money, I am faulting them for never even considering backwards compatibility at the time, both N64 and SNES had cartridges, and yet somehow they didn't think to have BC, Sony was the first for this and despite being able to play PS1 games on the PS3 we still have a great many titles on the PSN for those of us who dont, its sort of the best of both worlds, Sony was the first successful company to use CD software, and it is still useable today, CD's were much cheaper then cartridges were, which also made the console better for those gamers on a budget, seriously how much was LoZ:OOT when it was first released? $79.99 is the answer your looking for, while the Playstation Greatest Hits games were retailed at a meer $19.95, the N64 equivalent was retailed at $29.95, THIS is the reason PS1 was so succesful, people didn't want to spend that much money on a game, which inevitably lead to the early demise of the N64.


Also, let's look at Sony's accomplishments, how about that robust online networking on the PS2? Oh, wait, it never happened outside of SOCOM, and after Squenix invested so much into launching it with FFXI. Let's talk about the fact, Sony doesn't even make PS3's with backwards compatibility, and while they are kind enough to sell you back your PS1 games to play on the systems hardware, you're still screwed for playing PS2 games, and even the PS3s that did have Backwards compatibility, have a pretty nasty habit of breaking down on that front. I own one of them, and I have to say my PS3 is only for PS3 games, cause it can't play the others worth tit. Even if you can get them running, the system can't play old memory cards (like the Wii can) so what's the point of backwards compatibility if its going to make you start from scratch. You're better off just buying a used PS1 or PS2 and spend the other $250 you would have saved by doing so, on the now super cheap games they have.
So let me get this straight, you say that Wii is the picture of perfection in that you can use old memory cards on the Wii... and when you play a game you play it from your memory card... what happens when you lose the memory card? what happens when it gets corrupted (like my GC card did), PS3 have the system to create as many virtual memory cards as you have memory for, (which in that case is obviously 60gb) and my cousin (who has a 60GB PS3) has never had a problem with his console, can run PS2 games just fine on it and he can share his game saves with other PS3 owners if he so chooses to do so.

Also I would like to point out, when you play a game say like... FFVII do you start a brand new game and try to do everything or do you load up a game save of say, the last 3 battles, kill Jenova and Sephiroth twice then go back to your PS3 games? No, you do not, saying that PS3 is bad because you can't use you PS1/PS2 memory cards is quite frankly a ridiculous argument.

Also how many games did the BC have with online capability? 4... but TBH I have a PC that can run as many online games as I like, I doubt there is a single person out there who bought either the PS2 or the GC to play online games, most of the online games on the GC can be played with a PC, and despite having only 1 game with online capability it is still the highest selling console of all time, argue as much as you want, the PS2 was a far far superior console in terms of games then the GC.


BC, was nice for one generation and then Sony screwed it up. Sure Nintendo ported old classics onto the GBs but that was a decade before Sony actually got around to getting the portable DL onto the PSP to work and even then, I feel the pickings are rather slim. I can play almost every classic on the DS, I still can't get BoF4 or Suikoden 2 on the PSN network. It took until this year for SE to get off their ass and finally release most of their library.

Are we arguing about consoles or games companies? lol, yes, SE did not inundate us with every single game in their considerably large repertoire, but then why is that such an issue, they wanted us to buy their new games and released them in stages, they are released now which is the main thing, the games themselves are still out there in the market and I can understand why Nintendo released their older games with alacrity because (imo) they wanted to stop people from using emulators, and I have no idea about the sales of these games, but I am sure they did make a large amount of money from them, FFVII-IX are all on PSN now, (dunno if there are more then this but it wouldn't surprise me if there were) but your forgetting 1 thing: these games (the actual CD's) can still be bought, or if your a fan you likely already have these games on disk.



After that I have further damning evidence: Nintendo had the contract for FFVII but somehow they managed to smurf it up and so Squaresoft went over to the PS1 and the resulting game was the most epic game of the entire series.

This was simply about the choice of hardware technology. Nintendo wanted to keep cartridge based games but Square wanted more room to work with and left Nintendo for Sony. Interesting fact, Sakeguchi wanted to port FFIV-VI to the GBA back when the handheld released , but Nintendo refused, and only agreed to do it after Sakaguchi left SE.

This is easily one of the bigger blunders in gaming, but also having a poor excuse for defense for your customers personal data that allows any hacker who can breach your defenses get the whole bounty, doesn't seem like a great idea in hindsight either. ;)
Meh, everyone makes mistakes, its how they deal with it that marks them, oh and ftr, PSN wasn't hacked by "any old hacker" and I doubt there are many people who could achieve such a feat but this again is just my opinion.



Sales of Final Fantasy VII has reached over 10 million copies sold worldwide with Final Fantasy VI barely reaching 3.48 million (including the re-release sold on... you guessed it THE PS1!!!!). When FFVII was released on PSN it sold 100,000 copies within 2 weeks making it the fastest selling PSN game ever released.

Actually, counting the sales from the FF Chronicles/Anthology versions of the games, VI has reached past 4 million, the collections are not usually counted in this number, nor has the downloaded versions or VI Advance, so the number is actually higher. The other thing to note is that VII was the first FF released worldwide, VI never reached the PAL regions until FFIX was released, by then it was old and charming, as opposed to be new. Also when you think about how VII is popular in PAL regions and part of that is because their only experience with FF was FFI and Mystic Quest, I can see how these poor people truly believed VII was good, when they can only compare it to utter crap and ancient relics. :p

still 4million copies sold world wide pales in comparison to FFVII, it IS the most successful FF game out there for a reason, it is also the reason so many people like to bash it, because their are legions of FFVII fans out there many many more then FFVI (which often seems to be the favourite of the people bashing on FFVII) lets face it, it all comes down to opinion and I definitely think that VII is one of those games were 20 people like it and the 1 person who does not, shouting as loud as they can to say "hey my game is better" also I seriously don't think that the fanboi's of VII help its cause in any way, but being honest, when was the last time you saw a post by an honest to god fanboi of VII, such a rare breed nowadays (at least on this forum (which is the only forum I go to) so I don't know if there are fanboi's on other sites feel free to correct me if I am wrong).


Besides, VII is a shadow of its former self, SE is just going to milk you people with silly spin-offs and sequels, while dangling the carrot that is a remake in the distance, as if buying all this crap tells SE they need to make it, when all its really doing is telling them they can slap Cloud and Sephiroth onto a magical pony raising simulator and you people will lap it off the ground like it was gold. :roll2
Why do you think there ARE so many spin off's, like it or not the company exists to make money and saying otherwise is foolish, also when they "milk the cow" they generate money to help with other games, alot of the Final Fantasy games out there could be worse off without the funding FFVII brought about by "milking the cow". Also saying "all its doing is telling them they can slap Cloud and Sephiroth onto a magical pony raising sim and you people will lap it off the ground like it was gold" to be very pretentious, we (the fans) have not "lapped it off the ground like it was gold" for any title branded with the FFVII logo, as a matter of fact I have only played FFVII and CC:FFVII VII being a great game and CC:FFVII being a fairly decent game, not once have I seen anyone "lapping up the FFVII spinoffs like it was gold", can you tell me where you came across such a notion?


I'll take my lesser success over one that is being run into the ground by a company that is bankrupt of imagination and ideas.
Are you forgetting the same company made both games we are arguing over? also saying they are bankrupt of imagination and ideas is a silly argument, everyone who plays which ever FF is their first it seems to me that that game is destined to be their favourite, as evidenced by cat121212 one of our new members, she played FFXIII before any other game and it is her favourite, everyone likes what they like, if you don't like SE's newer games then thats your loss, I base how successful a game is by the amount of sales said games has, I have no wish for you to follow in my line of thinking, and respect the way you judge which game is your favourite but saying a company is bankrupt of ideas and imagination is (imo) a little silly.



Now, lets go into those games you mentioned:

Final Fantasy VI
FFIV
Secret of Mana
Super Metroid
These here are admittedly good games, but they no where near match the calibre of the games released on the PS1.

I disagree. While the PS1 certainly has its number of games that are on the same caliber, I don't feel their are many if any that are better.
I see little point in arguing which console has the better line up of games, you like what you like, I like what I like, arguing about it is never going to change yours or my mind.



Star Fox
Castlevania IV
Super Star Wars Trilogy
Mortal Kombat
Street Fighter II
Donkey Kong Country
These games I have put a strike through because lets face it, they are lame games, Street Fighter II I might add has had considerably better instalments on the Playstation.

No, you just have lousy taste, DKC is a classic and actually one of the most financially successful franchises for Nintendo, which irritates Miyamoto. MK1 and 2 are the only popular entries in the MK franchise, and Super Street Fighter 2 Turbo is still considered by the SF community as the definitive entry in the franchise and the best game. You'll still be seeing people playing them at tournaments as opposed to the SF:EX series, which most SF fans try to forget it exists and the Alpha series which died with SFA3. Hell the SNES actually got SFA1 and 2 and they are technically the better entries in terms of unlockables and cinematic elements. SFA3 just has a huge roster filled with Shoto clones and Cammy pallette swaps.
You say MK1 was a popular game? it has a rating of 6.9 on GameFAQS and MKII (which was not on the list of games mentioned, you just said MK nothing about MKII) was released no a titload of consoles, PS1 being one of the said consoles. oh and MK: Deception has an 8.2 rating on GameFAQS... which sort of blows the whole MK I and II are the only good games out there right out of the water (ftr the rating of MK II was 8.5) Street Fighter II was the game mentioned, IMO the game is lame, how many characters did it have> 10? or was it 8? I can't remember but one thing I DO remember is growing up with my brother and cousin, and a couple of friends of my cousins playing Street Fighter to death, I have played so many incarnations of Street Fighter I have lost count of the different renditions I have played, I have seen all the street fighter anime that has ever been released (with the lame exception of that kiddy Street Fighter Adventure anime, the one with Guile in it as the main character) and I can say without a shadow of a doubt that Street Fighter II compared to 90% of the rest of the series is like comparing FFI to FFVII its so so much more then what it was. Oh and the DKC, I went back to playing it again about 4 months ago, had you spoken to me before that I would totally agree with you, but they game simply has not aged well, I found it dull and repetitive, this though is just my opinion, but I am not going to look at a game with rose coloured glasses any more for the sake of nostalgia.


Star Fox is also a great game and the series would be better if Nintendo stopped trying to make them into space epics. It is actually one of the best dog fighting experience on the old consoles. The Super Star Wars series is a fun side scrolling adventure, and until recently, was considered one of the few Star Wars games to escape the Gundam curse, by actually being playable.
As I said before you choose which games you like, I don't like these games so I hold my reasoning is totally valid.



Legend of Zelda: A Link to the Past (which every Zelda has been based on since)
Your basically admitting that if you have played one of these games, then you have played all of them, lets face it: it's pathetic never changing story same Zelda same Link each game is released with the same story over and over again each with a a little twist on the gameplay element of the game.

Yeah, just like Halo, RE, Silent Hill, and DQ and several other gaming franchises. When a franchise starts getting past the 10 year mark, you either stick to the formula or gamble on a revamp. The Zelda games do play differently, but its is also very formulaic. Its like going into a Silent Hill game and already knowing combat is going to be terribly to keep up the drama. They could fix it but then you get what happened to the RE series which has mostly split the fanbase.

Zelda always offers a new take on everything. Twilight Princess certainly found new and unique ways to use the metal boots accessory which was really remarkable. Overall, I feel your argument is just irrelevant cause most games don't dramatically alter the formula that made them successful, even SE tends to get reamed (VIII and XIII) when they alter the formula too much. This is just the usual argument Nintendo Haters make to talk smack about Nintendo franchises, without realizing their caught in a hypocrisy itself. LttP created the franchises formula, OoT introduced 3D elements (which actually created a different gaming experience as opposed to FFVII which still plays like a 16-bit game) and Z-Targeting, Wind Waker introduced a re-emphasis on exploration and gave Link the ability to disarm and pick up enemy weapons for unique combat, and Twilight Princess created more ways to utilize several of the old time fave items and unique dungeons like the Abominable Snowman mansion. Each game is unique from each other.
What was that game that everyone said was the Playstations version of LoZ... think it was Darksiders, still plays like a Zelda game but has a new and fresh plot, something which was lacking in all the Zelda games I have played (admitedly I only played up to Wind Waker as I don't own a Wii (not that I wouldn't like to) and copies of Twilight Princess for the GC and few and far between). I just thought it funny that you should say that every game has the same plot, when it would be piss easy for them to write a new plot with the same Zelda elements, hell, if Darksiders was released back in the GC days with the name Zelda on it with a few minor changes (naming the DS her Link etc.) everyone would have gone crazy for the game.

Oh and ftr, I am not a Nintendo hater, I find the idea that some people hate consoles that are in competition with their console to be entirely ridiculous and if you are a Sony hater (which btw its obvious that you are not) they I would have nothing to say to you. My main gripe with the Zelda games is that they always have the same characters, you spurn FFVII and its respective spin off's then go and commend Zelda for doing the exact same thing, I don't mean that the Zelda Titles are spin off's I mean they have the same story line throughout every game, hence my "it would have been great if Darksiders was a Zelda game etc" because it would have broken the mould, no Eponia no Ganon, I mean cmon, how many god damned times must I kill Ganon before he is actually dead, is he a god damned cat or something with 9 lives?


I feel Mega Man has more issues with being formulaic than Zelda does, tit how could I forget MMX!? Another great series on the SNES and one that actually began to shake up the MM formula, with a darker story, wall climbing, and collecting armor and health items.
It may shock you to your core to read what I am about to write: I have NEVER played a single rendition of Mega Man xD so on this I say to you: no comment.




Lost Vikings
I have never even heard of this game, which goes to show how "popular" it is.
It was a cool 2D side scroller where you played 3 dwarves, each with a unique ability that allowed you to get past certain puzzles, its biggest notoriety was being one of the first titles for a future big company. (http://us.blizzard.com/en-us/) If, you've played WoW you've probably met them.
Guilty as charged, though I have not been back to it since Cataclysm was released.



Lufia II
An average game imo, I played and enjoyed it, but it doesn't stick in my mind as being an epic game.
To each their own I guess
/nod


Breath of Fire II
While Breath of Fire II was an awesome game, Breath of Fire III and IV are much better games, which is evidenced by Wolf Kanno's Breath of Fire Appreciation thread.

II is underappreciated if you ask me. I feel its the first really good BoF, and like many SNES titles that found future installments on the PSX, I felt it layed the groundwork for those games, the Fairy Colony, Master System, and mulitple endings, can all can be traced back to BoF2 and its unique systems. Besides, BoF2 has an epic final conflict which begins with the Big Bad murdering your whole party except your hero, and its the only entry in the series that has three endings :D
I think I already answered this in the previous part of this titan reply so I wont bother replying to it again.

[quote]Chrono Trigger
The SNES landmark RPG title, indeed an awesome game but 1 game alone cannot stand up to the might of the Playstation.

I beg to differ, especially since the PSX could only muster up a semi-good sequel that is only a good game on its own merits. Besides, CT has had the remake spiel even longer than VII has.
That my friend, has nothing to do with the console and everything to do with the company.

now I have finished replying to this message, if you reply to everything I have said here then kudos to Mr. Weapon I can promise you I will definitely read it, but I will not be replying no matter how convincing your argument is, I dont think I want to spend another 3 hours typing out a reply.

Just to lighten this post I will share with you some of my favourite smilieys: :wacky::takeabow::beer::smash::roll::blahblah::trout::twak::party::smug::colbert::doublecolbert: Have a nice day!

Rebellious Eagle
07-06-2011, 04:29 AM
Someone has no life n.n

Carl the Llama
07-06-2011, 04:33 AM
Someone has no life n.n

I just got home from work, and I have a day off tomorrow and I have worked 24 hours in the last 48 hours, this is my make up post for missing out on so much EoFF! xD

NorthernChaosGod
07-06-2011, 04:52 AM
Because you were too busy with your whore. Tsk, tsk.

Well, someone wasn't putting out. :colbert:

demondude
07-06-2011, 12:51 PM
Because you were too busy with your whore. Tsk, tsk.

Well, someone wasn't putting out. :colbert:

http://s3.amazonaws.com/kym-assets/photos/images/original/000/143/655/1309744963825.jpg?1309746898

Rebellious Eagle
07-06-2011, 06:53 PM
Wait...how did our leader die? D:

Del Murder
07-06-2011, 06:55 PM
I fought Rantzien bravely, but I was no match for him and his tricks.

demondude
07-06-2011, 06:55 PM
Who is the Returner leader?

Edit: Well there we go. :monster:

Psychotic
07-06-2011, 06:56 PM
Nobody. There are no Returners.

demondude
07-06-2011, 06:58 PM
Well done guys. smurfing well done.

The Man
07-06-2011, 07:06 PM
smurf this. I'm gonna go start my own gang wars! With blackjack! And hookers! In fact, forget the gang wars!

Rebellious Eagle
07-06-2011, 10:15 PM
Is it too late to make my own gang? :D

Edge7
07-06-2011, 11:24 PM
smurf this. I'm gonna go start my own gang wars! With blackjack! And hookers! In fact, forget the gang wars!

YTAS strikes again.

The Man
07-07-2011, 03:20 AM
Yu-gi-oh: The Abridged Series? My post was a Futurama reference.

NorthernChaosGod
07-07-2011, 03:21 AM
He's being Bender.