Anniversary Mafia Discussion Thread

[Psychotic]

In the last game I had the custom role of Sprinklefairy, where I won if I made everyone happy.

Suffice to say, I caused 3 people to have breakdowns and ragequit. I think Roto ragequit EoFF entirely actually.

[Shauna]

Man, I am sad I missed that. xD

[Del Murder]

How do you sleep at night knowing the misery you've caused?

[Psychotic]

I didn't mean to! I just wasn't a very good Sprinklefairy! I'm no good at this game :(

[Del Murder]

Why isn't that mafia game in the archive? How many mafia games have there been since Mafia 20 (DW)?

[Goldenboko]

It was pretty tough to learn to play Mafia with a role madness game, but I think I was starting to get the hang of it towards the end.

Still, I might have got the hang of it in time to be useful if the town early on had said things like "Your ideas don't make any sense because X, Y, and Z" instead of "Your ideas are stupid and so are you." But then I wouldn't have thought of the Havelock gambit and I'd have had a lot less fun, so it worked out well for me if not for the town.

Everytime I tried to do such a thing you yell 'I'M BRAINSTORMING' I just gave up and set my sights elsewhere.

[Psychotic]

The thought had honestly never occurred to me. I guess it's been you archiving them all this time - Del Murder for best admin indeed. Anyway, two, as far as I remember. We had world leader mafia (I actually won as mafia!) and heroes and villains mafia.

[Jentleness]

It was ambitious, but we did get a lot of returning players like AK, DK, and Jen.Dunno where you've been, but DK and Jen have been in the last three mafia games prior to this one at least.

Certainly the last disaster we had, anyway...!

You can thank Jiro for "volunteering" me to play. After the last game I was pretty much done, but I'm glad now he made me give it a second chance.

[Psychotic]

Oh come on, that last one was poetry. If you didn't like the Sprinklefairy, then you still had the Vanilla Gorilla and the Jiro Cerberus to enjoy!

[Formalhaut]

Have all the night actions been decided yet? Can't take that long, only two to make.

[Del Murder]

Moved all the recent mafia threads. There may have been a mini-mafia I missed.

Why are there two Mafia XXIs?

[Citizen Bleys]

The archives would be waaay more fun/less confusing to follow if the mafia accounts weren't all reused and renamed. I can't make sense of bugger all.

[Goldenboko]

Once upon a time I edited the names in, but I'm not doing that again without a more permanent solution to stop needing that.

[Del Murder]

There may be a way to write a script that edits the name into the post.

[Citizen Bleys]

Oh, and this might be obvious, but I'd love to see a Shakespeare-themed mafia game somewhere down the line.

I'll even run it, but not until I've played enough games that a) I've been mafia at least once, and b) I get enough experience as town that I'm not a hopeless liability to my team.

My perfect storm of awesome would be if someone experienced ran a Shakespeare-themed mafia game, and I rolled mafia as Iago. Especially if the Godfather was someone ridiculous like Mustardseed or the Cockney gravedigger from Hamlet and someone else rolled Mistress Quickly, complete with Judi Dench avatar and RP'd it as a dominatrix xD

[Laddy]

I got a game planned right now if necessary. :monster:

[Citizen Bleys]

By the way, you're all welcome for that mental image of Judi Dench as a dominatrix.

[Del Murder]

I just played 4 games in a row so I could use a break. :p

[Citizen Bleys]

Do these things usually run back-to-back? I thought it was twice a year like the Ciddies!

This game was waaay too epic to start another one right away; I'm going to need until at least after Game 1 of WILTY? to recover.

[Jentleness]

Oh come on, that last one was poetry. If you didn't like the Sprinklefairy, then you still had the Vanilla Gorilla and the Jiro Cerberus to enjoy!

You forget I was mafia and it was my partner that rage quit the game because he was a big, fat baby and couldn't handle the pressure of people finding him suspicious.

[Hollycat]

Hey, if faris wins, I still win right? So I'm rooting for Faris.

[Citizen Bleys]

I shall sign up in hopes that I go out early.

This is hilarious now.

[Jiro]

I will be revealing the outcome shortly. Hype hype.

[Jentleness]

As a side note I just want to thank everyone for their feverious imaginations, painting me as the mafia whispering, mail carrying, serial killer gave me quite a few laughs!

[Laddy]

Goddamn Proto, that was beautiful!

[Agent Proto]

It was elementary, my dear Laddy. :holmes:

[Futan]

Nicely done pr00t! :D

[Freya]

Nice job triads!

[Faris]

I knew mah girl wouldn't let me down. :aimkiss:

[Del Murder]

A deserved win, Proto. Claiming Tracker so early on was pretty brilliant.

[Jentleness]

Congratulations Jeff! Poor, poor Leon :(

[Jiro]

Night actions incoming, you just wait and see the mindfuck that happened :p

[Formalhaut]

Amazing flavour text by Jiro, well done!

And also. Wow. Just wow. So Mafia are victorious! Congrats to all involved, especially Faris; you are a true champion.

[Shauna]

Yess! :D Go Mafia 1! Looking at the votes, Mafia 2 were hardly around at the beginning. xD Ah well.

Well done to everyone who played. :D It was an exciting game for sure.

[Del Murder]

Also Psychotic's teams got 2nd and 3rd place. That averaged out to 2.5 place. Since town got 2nd place that means I'm better than Psychotic. Yep. Math.

[Agent Proto]

A deserved win, Proto. Claiming Tracker so early on was pretty brilliant.

I have to agree. Really, it was never part of my plan to role claim so early in this game, but in the end it worked out so nicely.

[Del Murder]

Is this the first time an admitted mafia lasted two full days and then ends up winning the game?

[Agent Proto]

I was ready to let Town win if Cid had turned up scum. There would be no possible way for me to win in that scenario.

[Jentleness]

Is this the first time an admitted mafia lasted two full days and then ends up winning the game?

I gambled, I'm sorry it didn't work out for town. :(

[Del Murder]

You did fine. You lynched all the Biggs conspirators and that's all that matters.

[Agent Proto]

Don't worry Jen, I gambled too.

[Jiro]

All of the blame lies with Leon, seeing as he actually caused the End Game situation by protecting Luneth on Night 6. Without Luneth, the whole thing would've been over. :monster: But I'll get to that, official awards to be handed out in a moment.

[Jentleness]

You did fine. You lynched all the Biggs conspirators and that's all that matters.

Damn straight, that really pissed me off! I'm glad you approved! :hello:

[Jentleness]

Don't worry Jen, I gambled too.

It's OK to gamble if you win! :P

[Timekeeper]

Argh! So close!
Picked the wrong glass of wine!

I'm curious to know if you deliberated over your choice for a while, or if you just flipped a coin on it like I did xD

[Shauna]

That was some crazy play. xD

[Freya]

I kept picking town/people who got killed that night. I really played a bad game haha but then again I was only half paying attention. Work reallly got in the way for me this game. Stupid black friday retail madness.

[Jentleness]

We almost did it, Timekeeper! So close!

[Formalhaut]

I really hope people take the time to see how nice and pretty and organised sweet dear Penelo made the Yakuza's office of evil.

[Jiro]

The Mafia Forums are both visible to guests so you can go and explore them - check the Role Mognets for the link.

I will field any questions you guys have and clarify any points. Everything was intricately placed to counterbalance something else, so if you don't understand a role, please tell me!

[Freya]

Weren't there more nights? It only goes to the actions of night seven missing six o.o WHO KILLED ME DAMNIT!

[Formalhaut]

Can I just say; I've been reading the Triad's inner sanctum Mafia thread, and they are just so disorganised. They've not highlighted important posts, or bookmark exactly where the night actions are. Even worse, there's no love! I wrote a heartfelt closing letter to end off my stay at the offices of evil, as well as make up an entire backstory for the building.

I think in terms of dedication and effort, Penelo easily wins. :p

[Shauna]

Pssh, we didn't need that obviously. ;)

Also, people kept commenting about why Faris threw Galuf under the bus so early on? He had 0 communication with us, it would have been easier to come up with something that wouldn't have made him suspicious to everyone if he'd actually talked to us ever. :( It was a tough, but necessary decision. xD

[Jiro]

Weren't there more nights? It only goes to the actions of night seven missing six o.o WHO KILLED ME DAMNIT!

I'm working on it. Being at work has limited my ability to keep track of actions etc.

[Formalhaut]

I love how I wrote Penelo back in:


Penelo: Notes indicate she handled day to day runnings, and looked after animals despite Marshall Law being declared, meaning all shops were shut. Somehow wrote messages on gang's internet communication system even after death. Because of this, the Penelo who was lynched is an imposter and the real Penelo is MIA.

Penelo is alive! Hahaha!

[Freya]

I read their forum. They thought I was the other scum haha.

[Formalhaut]

I read their forum. They thought I was the other scum haha.

Somehow, the Triad thought my role-claim as a FBI agent was true! Haha, I thought literally noone would believe it, not even for a second.

[Shauna]

Nothing wrong with planning for the possibility of what you're saying being true. ;) We doubt, but also make sure that we do not disregard. :3

[Goldenboko]

everyone tried to kill me :(

[Freya]

Honestly I was going to role claim with my investigation at the end of day 6 but I ran out of time. I got in there late. I was going to confirm Wedge's innocence. I figured though that I was flying enough under the radar I may have been able to get at least one more night of investigation, ironically I planned on going for penelo and then going "SCUM" but penelo roleblocked me and killed me. xD

[Agent Proto]

Can I just say; I've been reading the Triad's inner sanctum Mafia thread, and they are just so disorganised. They've not highlighted important posts, or bookmark exactly where the night actions are. Even worse, there's no love! I wrote a heartfelt closing letter to end off my stay at the offices of evil, as well as make up an entire backstory for the building.

I think in terms of dedication and effort, Penelo easily wins. :p

It's kind of hard to be organized when a member of your team hardly participates in any discussions. We hoped that Galuf (shion/Sharky) would join us at some point, but it never happened.

[Formalhaut]

You still had three other members! After soup/Blank was unfortunately lynched, we didn't stop organising, we embraced it.

Still, were all dead. Maybe I was concentrating too much on that than winning.

[Shauna]

Too much organising the mafia forum, not enough actually getting involved with the game. ;)

[Freya]

I felt that wedge was innocent but i was tired of everyone saying "OMG WEDGE ISN'T INNOCENT!" so I was like "just investigate wedge so they'll stfu already and i'll roleclaim tomorrow or something." Then I didn't follow through with my role claiming and that caused longer "omg wedge isn't innocent!" And strangely enough wedge must have felt I was innocent since they sent the whisper to me xD When I got that I was like "damnit I wasted an investigation, that confirms wedge."

[Agent Proto]

I think my team was made solely of scum first-timers.

[Formalhaut]

Well, at least people who survey the forum know exactly where everything is.

Helps to be organised. Otherwise people just get confused. Besides, it's nice to play around with the backstories behind the office of evil. :)

[Timekeeper]

Doctor is seriously harder than I thought.
I should have brought more attention to myself, but it's difficult being an 'inactive' antipodean...

[Jiro]

everyone tried to kill me :(


I was laughing so smurfing hard at that :p Great strategy!

[Timekeeper]

As a side note I just want to thank everyone for their feverious imaginations, painting me as the mafia whispering, mail carrying, serial killer gave me quite a few laughs!

I never did truly believe that you were a Killer Mailman, as brilliant as it sounds xD
But hey, it was that same imagination that put forward the possibility that two cops finding Faris innocent meant that she was another Godfather :p

[Citizen Bleys]

The big reveal did not disappoint. Well done on the setup.

[Jiro]

The big reveal did not disappoint. Well done on the setup.

Good to know you enjoyed it! I had a lot more ideas that I just couldn't reconcile into a fair game, so I had to throw out the Cult, the Masons, Janitor, Thief, Stabproof Townie, Fisherman, and a range of brand new roles which I won't spoil for you :aimsun:

[DK]

I thought this was a pretty great mafia and you did a great job with it dude. I was defintely mindfucked by day 5 or so. I had fun with it anyway.

I think my own favourite part (or at least that I was involved in) was wasting Laguna on night one and everyone else (especially Bleys) being utterly blagged by it on day 2 and trying to work out what the fuck had gone on, and what the reasons were behind us doing it, when all it was was me reading the thread and feeling "I don't like this guy he will be dangerous, we should get rid of him" and finally convincing the other people in my team to kill him. Then bam, Doctor Del. Then hilarity ensues. I loved it.

[Del Murder]

You didn't kill Laguna, though. Somehow both targets of the Bus Driver were shot on Night 1! So at least I saved somebody.

Reading through the mafia forum, is this how Psychotic is when not restrained by the rules of EoFF? It's frightening.

[DK]

Well that's just ruined my day :( at least you died. :colbert:

edit: my other favourite part of the game was I think the day two or night two, possibly 3 thread in the mafia forum. There is a special surprise in there waiting for all the townie players and members of the other mafia. :)

[DK]

Night 2 - standard kill is the thread, now I've checked again. We all went kind of mental, it was great.

[Citizen Bleys]

I think my own favourite part (or at least that I was involved in) was wasting Laguna on night one and everyone else (especially Bleys) being utterly blagged by it.

You were pleased at fooling a first-timer? You're easy to get along with. Everybody (Except Shauna) fucking fooled me, and I fooled nobody.

DK, Shauna, and Psy-as-Luneth are the 3 players who acquired Magnificent Bastard status in my eyes this game. Well done.

[Madonna]

Must have sucked to have been the remaining town stuck between the mobsters. That end-game was to find out which mafia won; town never had a chance after it murdered itself. Good game.

[Shauna]

You were pleased at fooling a first-timer? You're easy to get along with. Everybody (Except Shauna) fucking fooled me, and I fooled nobody.

DK, Shauna, and Psy-as-Luneth are the 3 players who acquired Magnificent Bastard status in my eyes this game. Well done.

Aw thanks. :p You did pretty well for your first game! :D

But you were really gunning for me. It had me super concerned for Setzer's last day (or two). I was doing so well hiding in plain sight until you made those crazy claims. If you hadn't pointed me out, I probably would have survived another night. I loved how on at least one occasion people made lists of all the characters and simply forgot to include Setzer, even if I'd just posted. xD
The gunning for Wakka did not worry me so much because HC had already made him super scummy with his earlier play. My poor replacing just didn't help that earlier suspicious activity. :p


But thanks a lot to Jiro for setting this all up and keeping up with the shenanigans. I had a great time. :D

[Denmark]

Cid was the best Jailkeeper! Randomized power roles are amazing

I actually want to see what the night actions were there but I'd have to actually know what relevance they had (if any) being randomized after Night 3 (which is when I quit and stopped paying attention)

Next mafia game should just be 20 power roles with random actions. there's the real mindfuck

[Aerith's Knight]

Night Two Actions


Sequence:
[M] Kain - Switch Serah With Quistis
[M] Leon - Protect Wedge
[M] Cid - Jailkeep Balthier
[M] Rydia - Apothecary Noctis
[M] Setzer - Kill Kain
[M] Luneth - Kill Quina
[M] Luneth - Sharpshoot Serah
[M] Penelo - Roleblock Wedge
[M] Relm - Grift Relm
[M] Wakka - Frame Noctis
[M] Leila - Investigate Wedge
[M] Rikku - Investigate Quistis
[M] Refia - Spy on Quistis

Outcome:
[M] Quistis is killed by poison.
[M] Serah is killed.
[M] Kain is killed.
[M] Quina is killed.
[M] Wedge is roleblocked.
[M] Balthier is roleblocked.


How does that work?

[Jiro]

How does that work?

The Sharpshooter's special ability is literally impossible to affect. It shoots through protection (incl. Bodyguard), hiding, roleblocking and, in this case, switching. The perfect killshot.

[Citizen Bleys]

But you were really gunning for me. It had me super concerned for Setzer's last day (or two). I was doing so well hiding in plain sight until you made those crazy claims.

Looks like the other mafia trusted my Kira instinct. There's a lesson there, if only I could think of how to phrase i...nope, it's gone.

That Kira instinct is literally the only thing I had going for me, though.

[Psychotic]

I felt that wedge was innocent but i was tired of everyone saying "OMG WEDGE ISN'T INNOCENT!" so I was like "just investigate wedge so they'll stfu already and i'll roleclaim tomorrow or something." Then I didn't follow through with my role claiming and that caused longer "omg wedge isn't innocent!" And strangely enough wedge must have felt I was innocent since they sent the whisper to me xD When I got that I was like "damnit I wasted an investigation, that confirms wedge."We only killed you because you got the message from Wedge after we roleblocked Wedge, and we thought that meant you were lying and thus scum. Lucky break.
Reading through the mafia forum, is this how Psychotic is when not restrained by the rules of EoFF? It's frightening.The triple posting or the rampant profanity?

Finally, thank you to Jiro for running such a fun game and devising a suitably fiendish set up. :)

[Formalhaut]

Yes, Jiro and Goldenboko must both be praised for a smashing game and making me lose my Mafia virginity.

[Aerith's Knight]

How does that work?

The Sharpshooter's special ability is literally impossible to affect. It shoots through protection (incl. Bodyguard), hiding, roleblocking and, in this case, switching. The perfect killshot.

Ah, a custom role. Nvm.

[Del Murder]

Here's how I approached each of my four accounts, if anyone cares. I played them all slightly differently.

Laguna - I played this different than my usual approach (lay low for the first few days and then come on strong) since I got Doctor. My goal was to appear helpful so that the mafia would target me. It worked. Of course I didn't expect the stupid Bus Driver to take my protection away.

Quina - I made a very awful attempt to hint at Bomb (all that explosive diarrhea stuff) so that I wouldn't be killed. Really I should have played my usual strategy of laying low but I was anxious to get back into it. Playing BP while also being useful is hard.

Biggs - I came on strong as Biggs because my role had the ability to kill a mafia who tried to kill me. I tried to make it obvious who I was so that the mafia would be 'lol lets kill Del' again. I also made the very awful Vengeful claim in hopes of attracting a kill but that didn't work either and I ended up killing poor Refia instead. Then the mafia ganged up on me and lynched me (but they paid for it in the end). I think if I never claimed it would have been better, but with all the inactives there's not much you could do when 3 mafia pile votes on you.

Rikku - Gunsmith is probably the best role I could have landed at this point and Jiro gifted the Penelo reveal to me. At this point I figured the town was up against it so there was no reason to play it safe, so I went out and claimed straight away and went full on against anyone who had a gun result. I also played a little trickery to get Luneth and Faris to admit they had guns and that led to the town having the best chance it possibly had. I got my revenge for Biggs and also helped the town have a 50/50 shot at winning in the end. Pretty good redemption.

[Aerith's Knight]

Well, I'm glad I could come back to EoFF for a little while to be a Jackass.

You have to do what comes natural after all.

[Del Murder]

I enjoyed the mayhem you created. Though you will never top WWF mafia.

[Goldenboko]

Yes, Jiro and Goldenboko must both be praised for a smashing game and making me lose my Mafia virginity.

I didn't do jack :monster:

[Aerith's Knight]

I enjoyed the mayhem you created. Though you will never top WWF mafia.

WWF mafia is legend. It will be the greatest moment in all of my mafia history.

ONE TRILLION DEL MULDERS!

[Jiro]

WWF Mafia was pretty incredible, and AK was amazing in that, but get your filthy reminiscing outta my game :argh: I'm glad you dudes all enjoyed yourselves though, I had a blast. Looking forward to actually playing for the first time in a long time though.

[Psychotic]

Long time? The Jiro Cerberus was the last game before this one :colbert:

[Jiro]

Nah, I hosted a game with HC!

Edit: actually you might be right there. Playing three accounts is tough.

[Bahamut2000X]

Biggs - I came on strong as Biggs because my role had the ability to kill a mafia who tried to kill me. I tried to make it obvious who I was so that the mafia would be 'lol lets kill Del' again. I also made the very awful Vengeful claim in hopes of attracting a kill but that didn't work either and I ended up killing poor Refia instead.


What's sad is I only decided to spy on you at the last second, because I had a big feeling you would be targeted and killed, and thus give me a list of who was at your place the night you died. Even worse I was about to investigate Faris that night instead because I seriously didn't believe that claim of his, I figured it was a fake claim from scum, or someone who showed experience was just that bad, and from my experience it tends to be the former. Sadly I was my own undoing before I could reveal what I could about what people did at night.

[Hollycat]

I think my team was made solely of scum first-timers.
Even moi?

[Del Murder]

Nah, you only play like a first timer.

[Hollycat]

Nah, you only play like a first timer.

..... I'm giving you a terrible role for the next mafia.

[Citizen Bleys]

Del Murder is the Village Idiot, who wins by getting shot in the crotch by the Mafia.

[Hollycat]

Del Murder is the Village Idiot, who wins by getting shot in the crotch by the Mafia.
Even when he wins he loses.

[Jiro]

That would be Murd's ideal role. It's like a night Jester and considering he's been lynched once in the entire history of EoFF Mafia, he stands a good chance.

[Citizen Bleys]

I think he stands a good chance in any role.

[Hollycat]

I was actually thinking the role I would give him would be something along the lines of the Veggiemaster
His vote doesn't count because he is a vegatable, he dies if not protected by a doctor every night and only wins if both he and the doctor are alive at the end. He also dies if someone succeeds in convincing the governor that being kept alive by machines isn't really living. Also all his posts are either gibberish or nonexistant.

I'm kidding. THe actual role he's getting is http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/6/6f/KennyMcCormick.png/150px-KennyMcCormick.png
He can't lose, he just never wins.

[Citizen Bleys]

He died often enough this game to qualify as Kenny already.

[Hollycat]

He died often enough this game to qualify as Kenny already.
Thank you that was the joke.

[Jentleness]

I didn't mean to! I just wasn't a very good Sprinklefairy! I'm no good at this game :(

I think I missed this comment yesterday so I will comment on it now: STFU and stop fishing for compliments, I've given you more than enough! :hello:

[Psychotic]

Well I was a bad Sprinklefairy when you think about what my goal was and what I actually did.

[Jentleness]

Thanks for the vote of confidence! :kakapo:

One other point that I forgot to mention in favor of siding with Luneth is that Relm suggested that I investigate her and send the report to Faris, this would give Faris the chance to clear Relm as a townie.



Not quite. If you buy into the 2 mafia claim then Faris is part of one of the mafias.

I've thought over Luneth's theory and there is something to it. However, even in his theory he has Relm down as a scumbag. So voting for Relm has his theory and my investigation behind it. Voting for Wakka only has his theory. The choice is clear for me.

Even if we are taking out the weaker mafia team, there will still be two killing factions out there if Luneth is correct. So they will need to gun for each other as much as us. In fact, if one team is only down to one member it benefits that person a lot more to take out at least one of the other mafia before they start going for town roles. At least I think so.

It's hard not to be persuaded by him because I've seen players say something that was seemingly innocuous in my eyes and he be totally correct at knowing exactly what their role was. I wish he hadn't gone to bed because I'm quite sure that he has check mate in 5 moves going on in his head and I wish I could strategize as well as he can.


I didn't realize at the time how close I was to being absolutely correct when I made this statement:



Move 1: Convince town to lynch Wakka
Move 2: Night kill Rydia
Move 3: Convince town to lynch Faris
Move 4: Night kill Rikku
Move 5: Convince Wedge to lynch Leon


Luneth declares Checkmate!

So guess what guys, if town hadn't been able to throw a couple wrenches into his scheming plans, then, I'm the one who had called it! :hello: