Pokémon X&Y post-launch discussion thread - AKA Jinx is Upset

[Night Fury]

This reminds me that I actually took some pictures today! :D
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[Jinx]

How do you get the pigtails? Do you have to say 'Surprise me'?

[Sephex]

I was dead tired so I barley played yesterday. I am mainly posting to say if anyone added me let me know so I can add you. I just don't want to put in a bunch of friend codes for no reason because I AM A LAZY MAN!!!!

[Nicolas]

I was dead tired so I barley played yesterday. I am mainly posting to say if anyone added me let me know so I can add you. I just don't want to put in a bunch of friend codes for no reason because I AM A LAZY MAN!!!!

Very true, but I really want the different areas you people can give me in the Friend Zone. So, I added all those who have put of their codes prior. And thanks to having some, I can catch some pretty neat pokemon. Wartortles and Charmeleons there can have their Hidden Abilities, which are nice. Also, Spheals. Spheals are adorable. Seriously. o.o

Edit: Also, for anybody who cares. There is a room on chat, #pokemon, dedicated to the series. It's mostly Tasura, Endless, and myself. So if you want to talk about the series, coordinate battles, trades, give/get advice from anybody who wants to join, please do come in. It's mostly a way to save the chat from having to hear about pokemon all the time.

[Bunny]

There are rumors going around about three event Pokemon whose information exists on the GTS but not in game. They are Volcanion (Fire/Water), Hoopa (Psychic/Ghost), and Diancie (Rock/Fairy). Supposedly you can request them on the GTS.

[Tasura]

There are rumors going around about three event Pokemon whose information exists on the GTS but not in game. They are Volcanion (Fire/Water), Hoopa (Psychic/Ghost), and Diancie (Rock/Fairy). Supposedly you can request them on the GTS.

So I tried this, and you can indeed deposit a pokemon and request one of those 3, but you can also deposit a Pokemon and request an Aaaaaa or a Tsiosjidjs. However it seems that if someone else requests one of those (Valcanion for example) that request will show up in the GTS, and will be excluded if you select "Don't Include Special".

[Endless]

People who started playing Pokemon X/Y and want friends : add your code to the code thread here (http://home.eyesonff.com/general-gaming-discussion/147207-official-eyes-final-fantasy-all-console-codes-thread.html). I generally add everyone, so add me back.
Faris, Jinx, Proto, Skyblade #2, Locky and Bunny for example. /glare
Also Pike.

[Jinx]

Don't glare! You don't get any notification when someone adds you! You have to tell them yourself!

[Scotty_ffgamer]

Just got my first gym badge (been busy and haven't had much time to play). I'd say this is my favorite of the Pokemon games so far.

Also, I've added everyone's friend codes in here and most in the All-Console code thread if anyone wants to add me. Here's my code for anyone that hasn't seen it there and wants it: 4253 3514 3882

[Nicolas]

Just got my first gym badge (been busy and haven't had much time to play). I'd say this is my favorite of the Pokemon games so far.

Also, I've added everyone's friend codes in here and most in the All-Console code thread if anyone wants to add me. Here's my code for anyone that hasn't seen it there and wants it: 4253 3514 3882

Be prepared. I did that as well and am still waiting on these jerks. ;-;

[Sephex]

Will add the people who said they added everyone when I get home late tonight.

[Jinx]

I haven't played in awhile. I might today and take a picture and add y'all nerds.

[Bunny]

Someone who is complaining about nobody adding everyone should go through the thread and gather all of the friend codes.

[Scotty_ffgamer]

I'm not too concerned with whether people add me or not, but I don't mind gathering all of the friend codes in this thread to make it easier on people wanting to find them.

Scotty_ffgamer: 4253 3514 3882
Bunny: 4527-8589-9901
Nicolas: 0516-7478-2513
Locky: 0834 1849 5441
Skyblade: Number one: 1547-6378-0895
Number two: 0490-5832-0785
Sephex: 4167-4486-9881
Freya: 0791-1388-7078


Also, here's the link to the All Console Code thread (http://home.eyesonff.com/general-gaming-discussion/147207-official-eyes-final-fantasy-all-console-codes-thread.html)

It's possible I missed some. If so, I'm sorry, haha.

[Sephex]

Okay, I added everyone in that convenient list Scotty posted, so if you add me, I should pop up!

[Night Fury]

I've had a few people send me their friend codes lately that I haven't added yet, but I shall do it all tonight when I get home from work! :D

[Tasura]

So, I finally reached the rank of Grand Duke, which is indeed the highest possible. After many many many fights against all the Dukes/Duchess' the next time you enter the building you get awarded the title of Grand Duke and access to a special writ, the Black Writ of Challenge, which costs 300k to send.

[Pike]

Edit: Also, for anybody who cares. There is a room on chat, #pokemon, dedicated to the series.

augh I miss chat so much. I just don't have the time right now :( Hoping to get back into it once Hux heads back home. I'll totally hang out in the #pokemon room.

[WildRaubtier]

4828-4430-9319

finally got around to getting the game. hit me up for ??????

[Skyblade]

Since we had some new players, I wanted to highlight my little guide to new features again. I did make a lot of effort to type it out and give the best advice and information I could, so I hope you all are finding some use for it. :D


First off, the new features. There are three primary ones to talk about. They are Pokémon Amie, Super Training, and the Player Search System. Each one takes up your lower screen unless you bring up your menu, and you can use the touchpad or L and R to cycle between them. All three of these features unlock immediately after you get your starter, though some have other minor restrictions, which I will mention as we get to them.



Pokémon Amie is a new way to increase Affection with your Pokémon. Each Pokémon has three Pokémon Amie stats. These are Affection, Fullness, and Enjoyment. Affection is the beneficial one that you want to raise. Fullness and Enjoyment are just restrictions on how much you can raise Affection.

When you open Pokémon Amie, you'll be able to interact with your Pokémon. Petting it with the stylus or calling its name will give you hearts, which increase its Affection. However, doing so consumes Enjoyment, and once Enjoyment is drained, you can't gain any more Affection hearts this way.

You can also feed your Pokémon Poképuffs to further increase Affection. However, this also increases Fullness. Once full, a Pokémon refuses to eat any more. A Pokémon whose Fullness is completely empty can eat 6 Poképuffs, and you'll notice that the last two are eaten slower than the others, to give you warning so you don't waste any Poképuffs.

In order to reset Fullness and Enjoyment, and earn more Poképuffs, you need to play the mini-games. There are three, and they have variable difficulty levels. The better you do, and the higher difficulty you play on, the better the rewards. You'll get more, and better Poképuffs for doing better on the games.

Each time you play a minigame, it resets part of the meters. Any three games played through (even Endless mode where you lose immediately on purpose) will reset both a Pokémon's Enjoyment and Fullness, allowing you to feed it and pet it to get more affection.

As you get basic Affection hearts, you'll eventually raise the Affection level. When your level goes up, the Pokémon will cheer and dozens of hearts will rush out at once. You really can't miss it.

Raising Affection seems to be permanent (I know it is permanent once you max it), and gives various bonuses. Increase Experience, increased Evasion, increased Critical Chance. You Pokémon can heal itself from status effects (so you don't worry about them) or even survive normally deadly hits with 1 HP left, like a Focus Band.


Minigames (to play you need at least three Pokémon):
Each has four difficulty modes: Easy, Normal, Hard, and Unlimited (which goes on until you fail)
-The first is Berry Picker. You drag berries from a tree to your Pokémon. There is one of each berry type, and each Pokémon requests a certain berry. More berries are added and the speed picks up as the difficulty increases.
-The second is Head It. Yarn falls from the top of the screen, and you tap your Pokémon to bounce it back up. Yarn falls faster and patterns are a little less consistent as difficulty increases.
-The third is Tile Puzzle. A moving picture of your Pokémon is broken into tiles. Each tile is then switched with another tile on the screen. Each tile is only moved once, so if you move a tile back correctly, you should always actually fix two tiles. Each picture shifts between scenes as you work on it. The pictures are split into more tiles as difficulty progresses.


Personal advice: Raise up the "Head it" minigame. It's easy to bounce the yarn up, and it gives great rewards for easy effort. Once you reach unlimited, play it and earn about 300 to 400 points, and you should get six excellent Poképuffs. If you five star it (around 900 points) you'll get even better ones, but it's not worth the extra time.

The Best Way To Get Good Poképuffs:
Play Unlimited Head it, and chain 15 bounces together. This should net you at least 60 to 65 points (45 from bouncing, plus 15 for the chain), which is enough to one-star Unlimited Mode. This will reward you with two of the second best Poképuffs in the game (again, to get the best, you need to 5-star Unlimited, which takes at least ten times as long, and risks making mistakes). Three games with two Poképuffs rewarded each will get you 6 Poképuffs, which is exactly how much a Pokémon with an empty stomach can eat, so this method is not only a fast way to get good Poképuffs, it is also perfectly sustainable for keeping your Pokémon fed as optimally as possible.



Pokémon Super Training is a great new way to maximize the Effort Values of your Pokémon.

As per previous games, a single Pokémon can have 510 Effort Values total. Each Effort Value (EV) is worth one point in a stat to a level 100 Pokémon. However, unlike other Pokémon games, you can now only put 252 EVs in a single stat, instead of the 255 of older games, preventing you from wasting 3 EVs which won't yield a stat boost.

Super Training starts with two tutorial level which teach you the basics. Essentially, the game is a shooter. The Circle Pad controls your Pokémon's movement, and the stylus controls your aim and fires shots.

You face a series of Pokémon balloons. Each has targets which appear on them as you play. Hit the targets and your score goes up. Meet the score that is the goal for the level, and you complete the level. However, many Pokémon balloons move, and some have barriers, other balloons blocking for them, or the ability to fight back.

Barriers can be broken either through doing enough damage, or by hitting their yellow weak spot directly. Guardian balloons can be killed by damage, but will regenerate over time, so it is better to try to fire around them. Balloons will fight back by firing giant soccer balls at you. Evade them by moving, or press L to activate your Shield. Just know that, like Protect, your Shield can't be used repeatedly, so get used to dodging.

Adding EVs to your Pokémon increases how they perform in Super Training, in addition to the stat boosts. Increasing Attack or Special Attack increases the points you score with each hit. Increasing Defense or Special Defense decreases the damage you take from soccer balls and increases the speed at which you charge shots up. Increasing HP increases the size of your ball's hit zone, allowing you to hit targets more easily. And increasing Speed increases how fast you can move to avoid hits, and possibly how fast your shot travels.

When you complete a level, you earn Effort Value points. The first two tutorial levels (which you can't escape) yield 4 EVs in Defense apiece, for a total of 8 Defense EVs. There is also a "Target Time" for each level that gives your Pokémon a little medal if they can beat it within the time, and the game will keep track of your fastest times, and which Pokémon earned them.

After you complete those levels, you unlock the first tier of Super Training. You can choose from any of the six stats: Special Attack, HP, Attack, Special Defense, Speed, and Defense. Completing one of these levels will reward you with 4 EVs in the corresponding stat. Complete all the levels, and you unlock the second tier. IMPORTANT NOTE: You do not have to complete them all with a single Pokémon, you just have to clear each level once with any Pokémon to unlock tier two.

Tier two has the same breakdown, but each level now yields 8 EVs per level, and each level is generally harder. Complete every tier two level (again, you do not need to do it with a single Pokémon), and you unlock tier three. In Tier 3, you face harder levels, and each is worth 12 EVs, making it the fastest way to increase EVs in Super Training.

After any individual Pokémon has acquired 510 EVs, that particular Pokémon is allowed to enter Tier 4 (you may have to unlock Tiers 2 and 3 if you got your EVs through battle instead of Super Training, I'm not sure). In Tier 4, you no longer get EVs. Instead, you get items. Some of these items are rare (almost every course seems to be tied to an Evolution Stone, for example), and what item they give you depends on how fast you clear them, with some luck thrown in. Also, these levels are far harder than the old ones, and, unlike Tiers 1 through 3, you cannot take on any one you wish, you have to unlock them one at a time.

Completing all 6 Tier 4 missions with one Pokémon will allow that Pokémon to take on Tier 5, the final tier. You'll get more items as rewards, but the rules are essentially the same as Tier 4.


Each time you complete a level, no matter which tier it is in, you will also earn a Punching Bag. These Punching Bags are accessible from the main Super Training Screen (again, the game will give you a tutorial on them). Which one you get depends on which mission you completed, and how fast you did it. Completing an Attack mission, for example, will yield an Attack bag almost always (occasionally you'll get a Double Up bag or something else different, but never a different stat, I'll get to those in a minute). Breaking these bags reward you with extra EVs for that stat.

Small Bags, easily accessible from the first Tier, are worth 1 EV, and must be punched by a Pokémon 11 times to break. And, as with all bags, the final blow must come from you hitting the screen, the Pokémon won't do it automatically. Medium Bags are worth 4 EVs, and must be hit 26 times. Large Bags are worth 12 EVs, and must be hit 51 times.

If you fail a mission, you still get a punching bag. However, you get different punching bags, intended to help you complete the missions. These include the Strength Bag, which earns you more points per hit, the Toughen Up bag, which reduces the damage you take from soccer balls, the Big Shot bag, which increases your shot size to make hitting easier, and the Swiftness bag, which makes your Pokémon move faster. Each bag breaks in 11 hits, and lasts for only one mission.

There are also a few extra bags which do special things. The Double Up bag can be randomly won as an award, or through the second method (give me a second, I'll get to it), and doubles the EVs you earn on your next mission. The other two bags, the Soothing bag and the Reset bag, can only be acquired through being "found" by a Pokémon training itself. Essentially, any time your Pokémon hits the grey punching bag (about once a minute if left automatically) while no other punching bag is put up, there's a chance they'll get a bag. These can be any bag in the game, but are your only chance of getting Reset and Soothing bags. Soothing bags increase your friendship, so are great for Pokémon like Golbat or an Eevee you want to evolve to Espeon/Umbreon. Reset bags reset all your EVs so you can train from scratch. All non-stat bags take 11 hits to break, again with the final hit coming from you.

Pokémon will occasionally fall asleep, which keeps them from going on missions or hitting punching bags. Tapping them will wake them up. It will also put a smile on their face, which makes the next bag they punch at break twice as quickly.


How to punch bags: Any time you tap the touchscreen, your Pokémon will punch a bag. They will also punch on their own about once a minute, and they'll do this even in the middle of a punching session you're controlling.


Final note: Not every Pokémon acts the same way in the Super Training missions. On the main Super Training page, in the upper right corner, is a logo. For most Pokémon I've found (including your starters) it will be a soccer ball. But for some (first I found was Oddish) it will be a line of little soccer balls. This indicates how they fight in the missions. A single ball Pokémon is good for heavy, timed shots, while Oddish will fire rapidly but weakly as long as you hold down the stylus.



This is the new Wifi-Room. You no longer have to go to a Pokécenter to trade, browse the GTS, or anything like that. You can do it all from the PSS screen at any time.

The PSS screen is split into three sections. The first is "Friends", which lists all the people who are Friends with you. The Friends from your 3DS's Friends List will only be added if they go online while playing a Pokémon X/Y game at the same time you are online with your Pokémon X/Y game.

The second section is "Acqaintances", which is used for anyone you've had direct interactions with (battle or trade) but have not Friended. And the third section is "Passerby", which is everyone within your 3DS's wireless range or, if you are on the internet, every other person connected to the internet with a Pokémon game.

To interact with a trainer, tap on them. It will pull up a screen with their name, and available options. These include Trading, Battling, using Game-Chat (if they allow it), viewing their Trainer Video, or using O-Powers on them. Most of these are fairly self-explanatory, but I'll detail Trainer Videos and O-Powers below.

Trainer Videos can be set up in Lumiose City, and are a ten second video of your trainer in various poses and with effects, backgrounds, and movements. Edit one when you get to Lumiose City, and you'll figure it out from there.


O-Powers are buffs. You start out with Pokémon Healing, which heals the first Pokémon in the party, or the Pokémon currently in battle, for a minor amount. You also start with Pokémon Capture Power, which increases the chance for a Pokéball to capture a Pokémon. You get extra ones as you play, and they include powers like a stat buff at the start of the next combat, increased money from trainers, increased experience from battles, reduced cost of items at shops, and things like that.

Every O-Power has a cost of "Energy". Energy regenerates with time, and isn't used for anything but O-Powers, so don't be stingy with it. Each Power has a cost to you, and a cost to use on someone else. Using it on yourself is always more expensive than using it on someone else, to help promote social interaction. For example, Sp. Attack Power 1 is 1 Energy if you use it on someone else, but 3 Energy if you use it on yourself.

There are also different levels of each power. The more you use a power, the higher level it will become, until it reaches level 3, which is the highest. Each higher level works better, but also costs more energy.

Some powers give one time buffs, like healing or stat increases. Others give duration buffs, like money or experience. A duration buff will typically provide its benefit for three minutes, no matter what power level it is at. Increased levels instead give strong effects for that duration.


Now, on to the last parts of the PSS. In the upper right of the main screen are two blue icons. The one on the far right is the Internet icon. Press it to hook into the internet. To the left of that is the Functions Icon. This lets you do a lot of general things that aren't directly interacting with another trainer. I'll run down the list now.

Battle: Set up a Pokémon battle.

Trade: Set up a Pokémon trade.

Battle Spot: Random battles or Ranked Competition, I believe (haven't used it yet, I don't like playing competitively).

Wonder Trade: Trade any Pokémon for a random Pokémon from someone else. You can get some rares, and it's a great way to pick up Pokémon from other countries easily, but don't put up anything you don't want to lose.

Shout Out: Send out a message to other trainers who see you using PSS.

Holo Caster: No clue, really. Ability to pick up announcement data and some other stuff on Street Pass. Haven't used it.

The GTS: This is a place you can put a Pokémon and request a Pokémon for trade. You can search for a Pokémon other people have put up, either by selecting one from your Pokédex, or typing in its name. It's a decent way to hunt for Pokémon you don't have, though there are a lot of ridiculous trades up there, such as people wanting a legendary for a Skitty.

Game Sync: Hook up to the Pokémon Game Link to let Nintendo track your progress and reward PokéMiles for it. For more details, try it out or check the website, this one isn't too important right now (not all functionality is working for it yet).

O-Power: If you want to use an O-Power on yourself, this is the place to do it.

Favorites List: Haven't used, not sure how to. Something similar to the friend's list, apparently, but I don't know the details.

Profile: Information on you to adjust and make viewable.

PSS Settings: Exactly what it sounds like.



Upon completing the game and beating the Elite 4 (massive spoilers), you unlock the Safari Zone. Your Safari Zone has a type, which relates to the Pokémon which can be found within it. Mine, for example, is Normal. Unfortunately, your Safari Zone only has three Pokémon in it. You are stuck with those three Pokémon and can never change them, as far as we know.

However, anyone who is listed as a "Friend" in your PSS has their own Safari Zone, and you can visit that Safari Zone as well.

Thus, for each friend on the PSS, you get another Safari Zone and three more Pokémon to catch in it. Though you can of course get duplicates if you have bad luck. However, you should note that if one of your friends has not beaten the Elite Four (and done a Game Sync or been online since, so Nintendo can know about it), you will only be able to see two of their Pokémon, and the third will unlock once they have completed the game.

The benefits of the Friend Safari are thus:

You can get Pokémon you can't otherwise get in-game.
Pokémon in the Friend Safari have an increased chance of having their Hidden Ability.
Pokémon in the Friend Safari have an increased chance of being Shiny.
Pokémon in the Friend Safari always have at least two IVs that are 31, the maximum possible value.



The Kalos Pokédex is broken into three regions. Central, Coastal, and Mountain. You start with just the Central Pokédex, and the others are added on as you enter their respective territories. You first get the Coastal Pokédex after you leave Connecting Cave.

Due to the extremely high number of Pokémon, the sections were added for ease of sorting/tracking. There are no other effects on gameplay that I know of.


Please let me know if I forgot something.

The spoiler tags contain my guides, and I updated a little more information on Pokémon Amie (correcting a minor error I had as well, it takes 3 minigames to fully reset a Pokémon, not 2).

I've also Friended everyone here, I believe. If either of my systems is not on your Friend's list, please just let me know, and I'll happily Friend you.




I am currently at the battle to get Mega-Evolution. I've seen about 233 Pokémon total. I'm a Duke in the Battle Chateau. I got in to the Boutique in Lumiose and bought everything. And I still have half a million dollars left.

[ShunNakamura]

How do you get the pigtails? Do you have to say 'Surprise me'?

I think you need a certain number of style points or some such. The easiest way I found is simply spam bang changes at 500 a pop. Took out about 11 grand or so I think. So 20+ changes of bangs. The stylist will great you differently so you will know when the pigtails and the ponytail are available.

For any interested my code is apparently 4828-4177-8052. Haven't done any friend adding before so hopefully I grabbed the right number. Probably will have to look up process and all that.

[Tasura]

Added you Shun. And Skyblade, your second one, the 0490 one hasn't friended me yet.

As an update, I have all the Y Mega-Stones now, and I'm at 113 hours and 500 Pokdex.

[Endless]

Added WR and Shun as well.

Tas, you are insane.

[Tasura]

Tas, you are insane.

I suppose telling you I have 13k Pokemiles currently (Not counting the 8-9k I've already spent) wont' make me any less insane, will it? xD

[Shauna]

I have also added everyone that put up their friend code. Not friend whoring at all here. >.> <.<

[Sephex]

Okay, I added Shauna, Matt, Endless, and Shun as well.

I'll post mine again to make things easier. 4167-4486-9881

[Jinx]

>adds everyone
>still doesn't add Sephex

[Sephex]

WHAT DO I SMELL!?!?!?!?

[Jinx]

well, someone has to deflate your ego since you won that ciddie

[Sephex]

Sam uses "Hurt Sephex's feelings"

It's super effective!

:(

[Jinx]

Sephex uses "Guilt Trip Pity Party"

It's not very effective...

[Skyblade]

How do you get the pigtails? Do you have to say 'Surprise me'?

I think you need a certain number of style points or some such. The easiest way I found is simply spam bang changes at 500 a pop. Took out about 11 grand or so I think. So 20+ changes of bangs. The stylist will great you differently so you will know when the pigtails and the ponytail are available.

For any interested my code is apparently 4828-4177-8052. Haven't done any friend adding before so hopefully I grabbed the right number. Probably will have to look up process and all that.

I got my Style points by going through Furfrou designs. Each grooming is 300, and once I went through the entire list, I had picked up enough points to get into the boutique in Lumiose. I haven't checked for new hair options yet though. Still, if grooming is worth as many style points as a haircut, Furfrou would be cheaper.

EDIT: Also, both of my systems have friended Shun.

Codes are:
1547-6378-0895
0490-5832-0785

[Jinx]

Can someone explain to me how to use O-Powers? I can't even find them in my items...

[Nicolas]

Can someone explain to me how to use O-Powers? I can't even find them in my items...

When in PSS, there's a little folder at the top near the internet symbol. That folder has GTS, Game Sync, and O-Power all listed in there. Click on that and all of them are listed. If you click on someone on PSS while online, then you can just access the O-Powers from there and add them to people.

Also, I added you Shun. I have everyone else on there already. Thanks to those that added back.

[Tigmafuzz]

That little girl who asks you to get a 100 streak in Battle Maison? All she gives you is a damn Lansat Berry.

And then she asks you to get a 200 streak.

No. No, little girl.

[Skyblade]

Can someone explain to me how to use O-Powers? I can't even find them in my items...

When in PSS, there's a little folder at the top near the internet symbol. That folder has GTS, Game Sync, and O-Power all listed in there. Click on that and all of them are listed. If you click on someone on PSS while online, then you can just access the O-Powers from there and add them to people.

Also, I added you Shun. I have everyone else on there already. Thanks to those that added back.

Also, take note, once you open the folder icon, you have to move to the second page (right arrow on the side of the bottom screen) to find O-Powers. Also, you can't use or activate them (or any feature of that folder) without your wireless being turned on, though you do not need to be hooked to the internet.

To further this, O-Powers take a renewable resource to use. The row of little green dots at the bottom of the screen when you open the O-Power page indicate how much power you have to use on your O-Powers. Each takes its own amount. Using it on yourself (through the O-Power page) is more expensive than using it on someone else. Any more detailed information should be able to be found on my O-Powers guide, which I will repost.




Pokémon Amie is a new way to increase Affection with your Pokémon. Each Pokémon has three Pokémon Amie stats. These are Affection, Fullness, and Enjoyment. Affection is the beneficial one that you want to raise. Fullness and Enjoyment are just restrictions on how much you can raise Affection.

When you open Pokémon Amie, you'll be able to interact with your Pokémon. Petting it with the stylus or calling its name will give you hearts, which increase its Affection. However, doing so consumes Enjoyment, and once Enjoyment is drained, you can't gain any more Affection hearts this way.

You can also feed your Pokémon Poképuffs to further increase Affection. However, this also increases Fullness. Once full, a Pokémon refuses to eat any more. A Pokémon whose Fullness is completely empty can eat 6 Poképuffs, and you'll notice that the last two are eaten slower than the others, to give you warning so you don't waste any Poképuffs.

In order to reset Fullness and Enjoyment, and earn more Poképuffs, you need to play the mini-games. There are three, and they have variable difficulty levels. The better you do, and the higher difficulty you play on, the better the rewards. You'll get more, and better Poképuffs for doing better on the games.

Each time you play a minigame, it resets part of the meters. Any three games played through (even Endless mode where you lose immediately on purpose) will reset both a Pokémon's Enjoyment and Fullness, allowing you to feed it and pet it to get more affection.

As you get basic Affection hearts, you'll eventually raise the Affection level. When your level goes up, the Pokémon will cheer and dozens of hearts will rush out at once. You really can't miss it.

Raising Affection seems to be permanent (I know it is permanent once you max it), and gives various bonuses. Increase Experience, increased Evasion, increased Critical Chance. You Pokémon can heal itself from status effects (so you don't worry about them) or even survive normally deadly hits with 1 HP left, like a Focus Band.


Minigames (to play you need at least three Pokémon):
Each has four difficulty modes: Easy, Normal, Hard, and Unlimited (which goes on until you fail)
-The first is Berry Picker. You drag berries from a tree to your Pokémon. There is one of each berry type, and each Pokémon requests a certain berry. More berries are added and the speed picks up as the difficulty increases.
-The second is Head It. Yarn falls from the top of the screen, and you tap your Pokémon to bounce it back up. Yarn falls faster and patterns are a little less consistent as difficulty increases.
-The third is Tile Puzzle. A moving picture of your Pokémon is broken into tiles. Each tile is then switched with another tile on the screen. Each tile is only moved once, so if you move a tile back correctly, you should always actually fix two tiles. Each picture shifts between scenes as you work on it. The pictures are split into more tiles as difficulty progresses.


Personal advice: Raise up the "Head it" minigame. It's easy to bounce the yarn up, and it gives great rewards for easy effort. Once you reach unlimited, play it and earn about 300 to 400 points, and you should get six excellent Poképuffs. If you five star it (around 900 points) you'll get even better ones, but it's not worth the extra time.

The Best Way To Get Good Poképuffs:
Play Unlimited Head it, and chain 15 bounces together. This should net you at least 60 to 65 points (45 from bouncing, plus 15 for the chain), which is enough to one-star Unlimited Mode. This will reward you with two of the second best Poképuffs in the game (again, to get the best, you need to 5-star Unlimited, which takes at least ten times as long, and risks making mistakes). Three games with two Poképuffs rewarded each will get you 6 Poképuffs, which is exactly how much a Pokémon with an empty stomach can eat, so this method is not only a fast way to get good Poképuffs, it is also perfectly sustainable for keeping your Pokémon fed as optimally as possible.



Pokémon Super Training is a great new way to maximize the Effort Values of your Pokémon.

As per previous games, a single Pokémon can have 510 Effort Values total. Each Effort Value (EV) is worth one point in a stat to a level 100 Pokémon. However, unlike other Pokémon games, you can now only put 252 EVs in a single stat, instead of the 255 of older games, preventing you from wasting 3 EVs which won't yield a stat boost.

Super Training starts with two tutorial level which teach you the basics. Essentially, the game is a shooter. The Circle Pad controls your Pokémon's movement, and the stylus controls your aim and fires shots.

You face a series of Pokémon balloons. Each has targets which appear on them as you play. Hit the targets and your score goes up. Meet the score that is the goal for the level, and you complete the level. However, many Pokémon balloons move, and some have barriers, other balloons blocking for them, or the ability to fight back.

Barriers can be broken either through doing enough damage, or by hitting their yellow weak spot directly. Guardian balloons can be killed by damage, but will regenerate over time, so it is better to try to fire around them. Balloons will fight back by firing giant soccer balls at you. Evade them by moving, or press L to activate your Shield. Just know that, like Protect, your Shield can't be used repeatedly, so get used to dodging.

Adding EVs to your Pokémon increases how they perform in Super Training, in addition to the stat boosts. Increasing Attack or Special Attack increases the points you score with each hit. Increasing Defense or Special Defense decreases the damage you take from soccer balls and increases the speed at which you charge shots up. Increasing HP increases the size of your ball's hit zone, allowing you to hit targets more easily. And increasing Speed increases how fast you can move to avoid hits, and possibly how fast your shot travels.

When you complete a level, you earn Effort Value points. The first two tutorial levels (which you can't escape) yield 4 EVs in Defense apiece, for a total of 8 Defense EVs. There is also a "Target Time" for each level that gives your Pokémon a little medal if they can beat it within the time, and the game will keep track of your fastest times, and which Pokémon earned them.

After you complete those levels, you unlock the first tier of Super Training. You can choose from any of the six stats: Special Attack, HP, Attack, Special Defense, Speed, and Defense. Completing one of these levels will reward you with 4 EVs in the corresponding stat. Complete all the levels, and you unlock the second tier. IMPORTANT NOTE: You do not have to complete them all with a single Pokémon, you just have to clear each level once with any Pokémon to unlock tier two.

Tier two has the same breakdown, but each level now yields 8 EVs per level, and each level is generally harder. Complete every tier two level (again, you do not need to do it with a single Pokémon), and you unlock tier three. In Tier 3, you face harder levels, and each is worth 12 EVs, making it the fastest way to increase EVs in Super Training.

After any individual Pokémon has acquired 510 EVs, that particular Pokémon is allowed to enter Tier 4 (you may have to unlock Tiers 2 and 3 if you got your EVs through battle instead of Super Training, I'm not sure). In Tier 4, you no longer get EVs. Instead, you get items. Some of these items are rare (almost every course seems to be tied to an Evolution Stone, for example), and what item they give you depends on how fast you clear them, with some luck thrown in. Also, these levels are far harder than the old ones, and, unlike Tiers 1 through 3, you cannot take on any one you wish, you have to unlock them one at a time.

Completing all 6 Tier 4 missions with one Pokémon will allow that Pokémon to take on Tier 5, the final tier. You'll get more items as rewards, but the rules are essentially the same as Tier 4.


Each time you complete a level, no matter which tier it is in, you will also earn a Punching Bag. These Punching Bags are accessible from the main Super Training Screen (again, the game will give you a tutorial on them). Which one you get depends on which mission you completed, and how fast you did it. Completing an Attack mission, for example, will yield an Attack bag almost always (occasionally you'll get a Double Up bag or something else different, but never a different stat, I'll get to those in a minute). Breaking these bags reward you with extra EVs for that stat.

Small Bags, easily accessible from the first Tier, are worth 1 EV, and must be punched by a Pokémon 11 times to break. And, as with all bags, the final blow must come from you hitting the screen, the Pokémon won't do it automatically. Medium Bags are worth 4 EVs, and must be hit 26 times. Large Bags are worth 12 EVs, and must be hit 51 times.

If you fail a mission, you still get a punching bag. However, you get different punching bags, intended to help you complete the missions. These include the Strength Bag, which earns you more points per hit, the Toughen Up bag, which reduces the damage you take from soccer balls, the Big Shot bag, which increases your shot size to make hitting easier, and the Swiftness bag, which makes your Pokémon move faster. Each bag breaks in 11 hits, and lasts for only one mission.

There are also a few extra bags which do special things. The Double Up bag can be randomly won as an award, or through the second method (give me a second, I'll get to it), and doubles the EVs you earn on your next mission. The other two bags, the Soothing bag and the Reset bag, can only be acquired through being "found" by a Pokémon training itself. Essentially, any time your Pokémon hits the grey punching bag (about once a minute if left automatically) while no other punching bag is put up, there's a chance they'll get a bag. These can be any bag in the game, but are your only chance of getting Reset and Soothing bags. Soothing bags increase your friendship, so are great for Pokémon like Golbat or an Eevee you want to evolve to Espeon/Umbreon. Reset bags reset all your EVs so you can train from scratch. All non-stat bags take 11 hits to break, again with the final hit coming from you.

Pokémon will occasionally fall asleep, which keeps them from going on missions or hitting punching bags. Tapping them will wake them up. It will also put a smile on their face, which makes the next bag they punch at break twice as quickly.


How to punch bags: Any time you tap the touchscreen, your Pokémon will punch a bag. They will also punch on their own about once a minute, and they'll do this even in the middle of a punching session you're controlling.


Final note: Not every Pokémon acts the same way in the Super Training missions. On the main Super Training page, in the upper right corner, is a logo. For most Pokémon I've found (including your starters) it will be a soccer ball. But for some (first I found was Oddish) it will be a line of little soccer balls. This indicates how they fight in the missions. A single ball Pokémon is good for heavy, timed shots, while Oddish will fire rapidly but weakly as long as you hold down the stylus.



This is the new Wifi-Room. You no longer have to go to a Pokécenter to trade, browse the GTS, or anything like that. You can do it all from the PSS screen at any time.

The PSS screen is split into three sections. The first is "Friends", which lists all the people who are Friends with you. The Friends from your 3DS's Friends List will only be added if they go online while playing a Pokémon X/Y game at the same time you are online with your Pokémon X/Y game.

The second section is "Acqaintances", which is used for anyone you've had direct interactions with (battle or trade) but have not Friended. And the third section is "Passerby", which is everyone within your 3DS's wireless range or, if you are on the internet, every other person connected to the internet with a Pokémon game.

To interact with a trainer, tap on them. It will pull up a screen with their name, and available options. These include Trading, Battling, using Game-Chat (if they allow it), viewing their Trainer Video, or using O-Powers on them. Most of these are fairly self-explanatory, but I'll detail Trainer Videos and O-Powers below.

Trainer Videos can be set up in Lumiose City, and are a ten second video of your trainer in various poses and with effects, backgrounds, and movements. Edit one when you get to Lumiose City, and you'll figure it out from there.


O-Powers are buffs. You start out with Pokémon Healing, which heals the first Pokémon in the party, or the Pokémon currently in battle, for a minor amount. You also start with Pokémon Capture Power, which increases the chance for a Pokéball to capture a Pokémon. You get extra ones as you play, and they include powers like a stat buff at the start of the next combat, increased money from trainers, increased experience from battles, reduced cost of items at shops, and things like that.

Every O-Power has a cost of "Energy". Energy regenerates with time, and isn't used for anything but O-Powers, so don't be stingy with it. Each Power has a cost to you, and a cost to use on someone else. Using it on yourself is always more expensive than using it on someone else, to help promote social interaction. For example, Sp. Attack Power 1 is 1 Energy if you use it on someone else, but 3 Energy if you use it on yourself.

There are also different levels of each power. The more you use a power, the higher level it will become, until it reaches level 3, which is the highest. Each higher level works better, but also costs more energy.

Some powers give one time buffs, like healing or stat increases. Others give duration buffs, like money or experience. A duration buff will typically provide its benefit for three minutes, no matter what power level it is at. Increased levels instead give strong effects for that duration.

Upgrading from Level 1 to Level 2 of a power takes either 15 uses, I believe. I have not kept track of how long to upgrade to Level 3.


Now, on to the last parts of the PSS. In the upper right of the main screen are two blue icons. The one on the far right is the Internet icon. Press it to hook into the internet. To the left of that is the Functions Icon. This lets you do a lot of general things that aren't directly interacting with another trainer. I'll run down the list now.

Battle: Set up a Pokémon battle.

Trade: Set up a Pokémon trade.

Battle Spot: Random battles or Ranked Competition, I believe (haven't used it yet, I don't like playing competitively).

Wonder Trade: Trade any Pokémon for a random Pokémon from someone else. You can get some rares, and it's a great way to pick up Pokémon from other countries easily, but don't put up anything you don't want to lose.

Shout Out: Send out a message to other trainers who see you using PSS.

Holo Caster: No clue, really. Ability to pick up announcement data and some other stuff on Street Pass. Haven't used it.

The GTS: This is a place you can put a Pokémon and request a Pokémon for trade. You can search for a Pokémon other people have put up, either by selecting one from your Pokédex, or typing in its name. It's a decent way to hunt for Pokémon you don't have, though there are a lot of ridiculous trades up there, such as people wanting a legendary for a Skitty.

Game Sync: Hook up to the Pokémon Game Link to let Nintendo track your progress and reward PokéMiles for it. For more details, try it out or check the website, this one isn't too important right now (not all functionality is working for it yet).

O-Power: If you want to use an O-Power on yourself, this is the place to do it.

Favorites List: Haven't used, not sure how to. Something similar to the friend's list, apparently, but I don't know the details.

Profile: Information on you to adjust and make viewable.

PSS Settings: Exactly what it sounds like.



Upon completing the game and beating the Elite 4 (massive spoilers), you unlock the Safari Zone. Your Safari Zone has a type, which relates to the Pokémon which can be found within it. Mine, for example, is Normal. Unfortunately, your Safari Zone only has three Pokémon in it. You are stuck with those three Pokémon and can never change them, as far as we know.

However, anyone who is listed as a "Friend" in your PSS has their own Safari Zone, and you can visit that Safari Zone as well.

Thus, for each friend on the PSS, you get another Safari Zone and three more Pokémon to catch in it. Though you can of course get duplicates if you have bad luck. However, you should note that if one of your friends has not beaten the Elite Four (and done a Game Sync or been online since, so Nintendo can know about it), you will only be able to see two of their Pokémon, and the third will unlock once they have completed the game.

The benefits of the Friend Safari are thus:

You can get Pokémon you can't otherwise get in-game.
Pokémon in the Friend Safari have an increased chance of having their Hidden Ability.
Pokémon in the Friend Safari have an increased chance of being Shiny.
Pokémon in the Friend Safari always have at least two IVs that are 31, the maximum possible value.



The Kalos Pokédex is broken into three regions. Central, Coastal, and Mountain. You start with just the Central Pokédex, and the others are added on as you enter their respective territories. You first get the Coastal Pokédex after you leave Connecting Cave.

Due to the extremely high number of Pokémon, the sections were added for ease of sorting/tracking. There are no other effects on gameplay that I know of.



That little girl who asks you to get a 100 streak in Battle Maison? All she gives you is a damn Lansat Berry.

And then she asks you to get a 200 streak.

No. No, little girl.

Aw, c'mon, you can do it.

[Sephex]

Finally had a decent amount of time to play. Played a lot and did a lot of stuff I don't want to spoil, and I am very close to getting the 8th badge!

[Skyblade]

Finally had a decent amount of time to play. Played a lot and did a lot of stuff I don't want to spoil, and I am very close to getting the 8th badge!

Y'know, I've had days to play, and I'm nowhere near that far. I only just picked up Surf, and I'm hunting down where I can use it and what I can find with it.

Still not a Grand Duke, but I'm working on it. Also need to build my money back up after splurging on Day 2 of the Lumiose Boutique (got a nifty black fedora, which isn't nearly wide-brimmed enough).

[Tasura]

It took me 4-5 days of doing 4-5 runs a day before getting promoted to Grand Duke, and the Black Writ is totally worth it. Level 65 Audinos? Yes please.

[Skyblade]

Apparently Game Freak Battle Director Morimoto announced some extremely interesting new information for breeding, and testing has confirmed it (it's translated from Japanese and not worded perfectly, so confirmation was needed).

Have one parent hold a Destiny Knot. The child will now inherit five stats from the parents instead of three. That's right, only one of the child's stats will be new. This is kind of huge for breeding and stat manipulation, especially with Friend Safari and the Baby Pokémon glitch already increasing your rate of 31 IV acquisition. Perfect IV Pokémon are going to be a lot more common.

Especially since either parent can now pass down Egg Moves, and even fathers can pass down Hidden Abilities now (as long as you are breeding within a single species).



Also, if you are hunting for Shinies, there is another new way to get them: Chain Fishing. Stay in one place and catch fish. Don't move, and don't miss a cast (Suction Cups on the lead to help ensure bites helps), and your chance of seeing a Shiny result goes up and up and up the longer you go. Like the Shiny Radar, but for fishing.

[Endless]

So I'm progressing through the story. The more I play, the shorter the stuff on my character ; I expect I'll beat the Elite 4 wearing a bikini.

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[Freya]

SO someone on reddit (http://www.reddit.com/r/pokemon/comments/1p7lbb/here_is_a_map_i_made_with_the_location_and_info/) put a map together listing all the locations of pokemon. No need for a pokedex! Just look at this picture. (http://i.imgur.com/x3V0mjw.jpg) I'm linking it cause it's super big

There's a pdf even. It's the first link in the comments.

[Night Fury]

On my way to the elite 4 :D

[Nicolas]

On my way to the elite 4 :D

Nice. Go for it!

So... I started the Wonder Trade run with an extra rule. The rules for the Wonder Trade run are apparently 1 team to use for Wonder Trade and beat the entire game with them. The extra rule I'm adding is that I have to re-WT any pokemon that faints, regardless of level. That should make any time I invest in them that more more important. I say that because, the team I have... is terrifying.

-Gogoat (32)
-Ralts (12)
-Ralts (11)
-Solosis (22)
-Skiddo (8)
-Chespin (1)

I got lucky with the Chespin since it's Adamant and has it's hidden ability. There's going to be a lot of time spent on Poke Amie and Super Training. Also, I know it sounds like a cop-out that I'm willing to re-WT them, but I really wanna win with this team. Depsite the fact that I might die very soon. -_-

[Tasura]

Since I only have 1 copy of the game, and given how much time I've put into it, there is no way in hell I'm restarting to do a WT run. I did however WT 6 extra Pokemon to see what my theoretical team would have been.

Whismur (15)
Squirtle (1)
Relicanth (35)
Froakie (1)
Teddiursa (10)
Goomy (32)

What I may do though, is grind that team in the Chateau up to 70ish and try to clear the Elite 4 with them.

[ShunNakamura]

Since I only have 1 copy of the game, and given how much time I've put into it, there is no way in hell I'm restarting to do a WT run.
This has always been a pet peeve of mine with Pokemon. Maybe back when data needed to be stored on the cartridge I could buy it. But with the addition of SD cards the lack of support for multiple save files really makes me want to scream.

Anyways I got 6 badges now and have begun breeding. Probably should have started earlier since I wanted a flame team, but there are a number of handy fire types in this one available fairly early. But I am glad I got my Arcanine and Houndoom now. They have got to be two of my favorites. Hmm... I seem to like the canines. Maybe I should go with a Canine team. Arcanine, Houndoom, Mightyena, Furfou, Stoutland, and I am not sure on a sixth. Technically there are other Dog'ish mons, but a lot of them aren't Four Legged Doggies!

[Denmark]

i'd say Manectric is dog-like enough to make the team (and will provide more type variety)

cat team > dog team though

Persian
Luxray
Meowstic
Pyroar
Purugly
Liepard

Eeveelutions could count as cats too (at least Espeon totally could)

[Jinx]

How does breeding work? Like, I understand you breed to get better stats, but how?

[WildRaubtier]

goodness me that's a hell of a question to answer simply

basically each pokemon has a "gene" value for each stat between 0 and 31, and when you breed, some random selection (3, or 5 with a destiny knot held by [M/F?]) are selected from one of the parents and given to the baby instead of being randomly generated

[Jinx]

How can you see the value that's given?

[WildRaubtier]

I'm hardcore so I just reverse engineer the stat calculation to solve for it (which requires getting your baby to level 12 to be anything near accurate).

I think there's an NPC somewhere that evaluates them for you.

[Freya]

What's pokerus? My brother called me all excited cause he got it in wondertrade

[WildRaubtier]

doubles stat gain bonuses

[Skyblade]

What's pokerus? My brother called me all excited cause he got it in wondertrade

It doubles the Effort Values gained in combat (I don't think anyone has actually proven whether it works in Super Training yet, but I've heard that it does there as well).

It is contagious around Pokémon in the party. It lasts only a couple of days. However, its effects last even after the infection ends (the infection itself is actually more of a "contagious state").

A Pokémon left in the computer will keep the Pokérus indefinitely, which allows you to spread it to pretty much every Pokémon you have by monitoring those you have and simply always making sure that you leave a few Pokémon with it in the PC all the time, and keep rotating them out so the timers stay fresh.

Doubling the rate of EV acquisition makes strengthening Pokémon obviously go much faster.

PS: If he has a spare Pokémon with it, is he willing to trade it? I can always use more infectious organisms. I have several decent trade Pokémon, including version exclusives from either version, so let me know what he wants for it.

[Tasura]

It's been mentioned on Bulbapedia and Serebii that the Pokerus does not affect Super Training, just like the other EV boosting items don't.

[Skyblade]

How does breeding work? Like, I understand you breed to get better stats, but how?

I'm unsure if you're asking for just stat information, or a breeding guide in general. Either way, it's a chance for me to type some more. Skip to the "Stat Inheritance" section for the information specific to stats.

-Breeding Basics-


Each different Pokémon species is part of an Egg Group. Any male Pokémon can breed with any female Pokémon in the same Egg Group. The Egg Groups are usually based on physical characteristics.

For example, there are three different Water-based Egg Groups. One is for standard fish like Magikarp, one is for amphibians like Poliwag, and one is for invertebrates like Tentacool. There are plenty of other groups as well. On for mammals, one for reptiles, one for plants, etcetera. Keep in mind, however, that plenty of Pokémon are actually in multiple groups. Squirtle, for example, is grouped with both the Amphibian group and the Reptilian group.

If two Pokémon left in the Day Care can breed, you'll get a message saying that they like to spend time together when you talk to the Day Care man outside the center. If he says they prefer spending time with others, they won't produce an egg.

Pokémon without a gender cannot be bred through standard means, though they may still be a part of an Egg Group.


When two Pokémon within the same Egg Group create an egg, the resulting Pokémon is going to be the lowest Evolution-form of the mother. Breeding a female Marowak with a male Feraligatr (again, both in the Reptilian Egg Group) results in a baby Cubone, the lowest Evolution-form of Marowak.

There are two small exceptions to this: Nidoran Male and Female are considered the same species, and breeding them can produce either offspring, not merely Nidoran Females. Illumise and Volbeat are also considered the same species and follow the same rules. There are no female Volbeat or female Nidoran Males, but you can get more of either by breeding Illumise and Nidoran Female.

Also, the "Baby" Pokémon further break this rule. If you breed a female Azumarill, for example, you will get only Marill as children, not the younger Azurill. This is because the "Baby" Pokémon are only able to be obtained by breeding while the parent hold on to the corresponding incense. To get an Azurill, for example, you would need to let Azumarill hold the Sea Incense (available at the stand in Coumarine City) while breeding. Each Incense is used to get a different Baby Pokémon.


The child Pokémon can learn moves from either parent.

The child will learn any moves it can naturally learn from leveling up (in its current evolution) that both parents know.

The child will learn any TM, HM, or move tutor moves that either parent knows (it was only from the Father until this generation, but I believe it can now learn them from either), that the child can also learn.

The child can also learn certain "Egg Moves" from breeding if, again, either parent knows them (this was also originally restricted to only learning Egg Moves from the father, but now can be learned from either parent, confirmed). These moves are different for every Pokémon, but they essentially are a list of moves available only through breeding. Outrage, for example, can never be learned by a Charizard, but breeding a female Charizard with a male Dragonite that knows Outrage will result in a baby Charmander with Outrage. You'll have to either experiment a lot or look up the possible Egg Moves for each Pokémon you want to try these on.


Every Pokémon has 6 stats: HP, Attack, Defense, Special Attack, Special Defense, and Speed.

Each stat is assigned a number when the Pokémon is created. These go from 0 to 31, and the stat gets a corresponding boost from these "Individual Values" (hereafter referred to as IVs). For example, at level 100, a Pokémon with a 31 in the Attack IV will have an Attack stat 31 points higher than a Pokémon of the same species with a 0 in the Attack IV.

IVs are set when the Pokémon is created, and never change.

Babies inherit three IVs from their parents. They can be taken from either parent, and can be any three IVs.

Example:
You have a female Pikachu with 31 Special Attack IV and 0 Speed IV.
You have a male Pikachu with 0 Special Attack IV and 31 Speed IV.
The baby can inherit the mother's Special Attack and the father's Speed (and one other stat IV from either parent), resulting in a baby Pikachu with a 31 in each.
Of course, the baby could also inherit both 0's, resulting in an incredibly weak baby, relatively. But you can always breed them again.


Each Pokémon also has a "Nature". You can view it from the Ribbon page, above the date met. Each nature changes two stats. A "Mild" Natured Pokémon, for example (like my Greninja), will have increased Special Attack, and decreased Defense. These modifications are 10% of the stat's value. So if a neutral Greninja had 100 in both Defense and Special attack, a Mild Greninja of the same level would have 90 Defense and 110 Special Attack.

You can view the changes on a Pokémon's stat page. If the name of a stat is red, it is being increased. If it is blue, it is being decreased.

Please note that there are 5 Natures which boost the same stat that they penalize, resulting in neutral Natures.


When breeding, if either parent holds an Everstone, the child will be hatched with that parent's Nature. If both parents hold Everstones, the child will have a 50/50 chance to get either. This lets you help ensure that the child is born with the correct Nature when it finally inherits the correct stats.


The Everstone and the Incenses are not the only items that change the resulting baby.

There are certain items which give Effort Values (EVs) in battle when equipped to a Pokémon. The Power Weight gives 4 HP EVs. The Power Bracer gives 4 Attack EVs. The Power Belt gives Defense, the Power Lens gives Special Attack, the Power Band gives Special Defense, and the Power Anklet gives Speed.

If a parent holds one of these while breeding, it will guarantee that the corresponding stat will pass from that parent to the baby. If both parents hold an item (even if not the same item), it will pick one of the two to inherit, then take the other two inherited stats at random. You cannot guarantee more than one inheritance stat this way.


The Destiny Knot increases the number of IVs that the child inherits. If either parent holds this item, the child will inherit five IVs from the parents instead of the usual three. Which IVs are chosen, and from which parent, are still random.


Some Pokémon, especially those gotten from Horde battles or the Friend Safari, will have Hidden Abilities that are different from what the Pokémon usually has.

Other Pokémon can naturally have more than one Ability (such as Absol, who can have either Super Luck or Pressure, in addition to its Hidden Ability, which is Justified).

These Abilities can all be passed on to the baby as well. When normally breeding, between any two Pokémon of the same Egg Group, the mother has an 80% chance of passing down a non-Hidden Ability, or a 60% chance of passing down a Hidden Ability.

Supposedly, the Father can now pass down a Hidden Ability as well, as long as both parents are members of the same species (for example, the male Blazikenite from the event can now pass down Speed Boost to a baby Torchic, as long as he is breeding with a female Blazikenite).

Abilities cannot be passed down when breeding with a Ditto, and the child will know either its regular Ability, or one of its regular Abilities if it can have two, at random.


Some Pokémon do not have a gender, or are only available as male (such as Throh and Sawk). Or you might not have caught a female to breed with. These Pokémon can still be bred, however, thanks to Ditto. Ditto can breed with almost any non-legendary, non-baby Pokémon in the game.

Putting Ditto in the Day Care with any non-legendary, non-baby Pokémon (except Nidorina, Nidoqueen, and Unown) will result in producing a baby which relates to the other parent. A Ditto and a Metagross, for example, results in a baby Beldum, even though Metagross is not a female parent, and cannot breed except with Ditto.

You cannot breed Dittos at all. Two Dittos together will not produce an Egg, and with any other parent, will only produce an Egg that corresponds to the other parent.

Other than this, Ditto works almost the exact same way as other Pokémon. The same inheritance and move rules apply.


It's been mentioned on Bulbapedia and Serebii that the Pokerus does not affect Super Training, just like the other EV boosting items don't.

Good to know, thanks.

[Tasura]

As an add-on to your breeding guide, for some reason this Gen Nidorina refuses to breed with Nidorino, so you'll need to either try something else from the same egg group, or just breed the Nidorino with a Ditto.

[Skyblade]

As an add-on to your breeding guide, for some reason this Gen Nidorina refuses to breed with Nidorino, so you'll need to either try something else from the same egg group, or just breed the Nidorino with a Ditto.

Actually, this is true in every Generation, and I only mentioned it briefly, in the Ditto section.

Nidorina and Nidoqueen cannot breed (even though Nidorino and Nidoking can). They are in the "Undiscovered" Egg Group, as are the Baby Pokémon and the Legendaries. They are the only non-Legendary, non-Baby Pokémon in this Egg Group apart from Unown. They cannot breed, period.

Nidoran Female can breed, however.


As a side note, this makes them susceptible to the Undiscovered Egg Group capture glitch: As with all members of the Undiscovered Egg Group, every Nidorina that you find in the wild will have at least 3 perfect IVs. Of course, since Nidorina can't breed, even once you evolve her, the glitch isn't as useful on her as it is on the Baby Pokémon that can be captured: Riolu, Azurill, Mime Jr., Smoochum, Togepi, Budew, Chingling, and Mantyke. Plus whichever you find in Friend Safari, if you get any.

Also worth noting: Between the Baby Pokémon you can catch in the wild and their evolutions, you can cover every Egg Group in the game. Potentially spreading their boosted stats to any Pokémon who can breed without a Ditto.

[Bunny]

A semi-useful tool in determining potential IV ranges can be found here (http://www.psypokes.com/dex/iv.php). Still being updated for X/Y but previous generations are covered.

[Skyblade]

A semi-useful tool in determining potential IV ranges can be found here (http://www.psypokes.com/dex/iv.php). Still being updated for X/Y but previous generations are covered.

Oh, I forgot to mention that.

While Psypoke's is awesome, Metalkid's IV calculator (http://www.metalkid.info/Pokemon/Calculators/IV.aspx) is updated for X/Y, and the changes to the Pokémon which have had their stats altered by X/Y (for example, Alakazam's stats changed slightly). Not all of the information has been 100% confirmed yet, but those that have are implemented here, and those that have not will be once Smogon and Serebii's testing confirms them.

While I think Psypoke's is a little easier to use, and I love the fact that it shows you the possible range for each stat, I do like having a calculator for the next gen ones.


Also, there is a gentleman in Kiloude City who will assess the IVs of your Pokémon, and will tell you the average spread of the Pokémon's IVs, and their best one. If you have any perfects (or any in the 0-5 range) he will mention them specifically, and point them out (all of them), so he's a very good in-game tool as well.

[ShunNakamura]

What's pokerus? My brother called me all excited cause he got it in wondertrade
PS: If he has a spare Pokémon with it, is he willing to trade it? I can always use more infectious organisms. I have several decent trade Pokémon, including version exclusives from either version, so let me know what he wants for it.

I've got like a dozen infected at the moment. I was mass infecting to wonder trade. I have the version exclusive I wanted(Houndoom) so all I am really looking for at the moment is a Mega Stone for it. Don't really like it when such things are 'post-game' since I don't usually play post-game much. Anyways for the most part I don't care what I get in turn since the infected are spares I had laying about!


i'd say Manectric is dog-like enough to make the team (and will provide more type variety)

cat team > dog team though

Persian
Luxray
Meowstic
Pyroar
Purugly
Liepard

Eeveelutions could count as cats too (at least Espeon totally could)
Yeah, I would say the Eevees are cats. The Legendary Beasts are a bit of mix and match, but both Entei and Raikou are definitely catish enough to be on a Cat team. Suicune is Doggy enough for me to call a Dog though and has four legs :D. As a Jackal/Anubis thing Lucario could fall into a Dog theme. But he is upright and I would look for four legs(Granbull has the same issue). However, Manectric is definitely the more cannon choice and is readily available to me even at my current point in the game. And better yet is usable competitively thanks to Mega Manectric(and even regular Manectric is better than Mightyena!).

Hmm.. Manectric(Mega), Mightyena, Stoutland, Granbull, and Arcanine all have Intimidate access. If only there was one more Dog with Intimidate! That would be an Intimidating party! I know. . . that was horrible!

[Aulayna]

I need to drag myself away from XIV at some point and get around to continuing with this. >_> I'm still sitting outside the 3rd gym, the same place I was when I lasted posted an update xD

[Pike]

Totally got Xerneas and he's baller as hell :aimsun:

[Skyblade]

Anyone interested should know that I picked up a pair of Tropius. I've been seeking him out because Tropius is one of the best HM Slaves in this game, and combines perfectly with Bibarel.

Tropius naturally learns Sweet Scent, and can be taught Fly, Flash, Strength, Cut, and Rock Smash. This pairs perfectly with Bibarel, who can be taught Surf, Waterfall, Strength, Cut, and Rock Smash.

Tropius:
Sweet Scent - Instantly starts a battle with wild Pokémon, and a Horde battle if possible in the Route you're on.
Fly - Transportation between Pokécenters.
Flash - Decreases encounter rate in caves.
Strength - Move Boulders.

Bibarel:
Cut - Remove spiny trees.
Rock Smash - Break rocks for treasure and Pokémon.
Surf - Transportation over water.
Waterfall - Transportation up and down waterfalls.

This gives you access to all the best Field Moves (no Softboiled or Milk Drink, but pretty much all the others) on just two Pokémon.

I'll be breeding them for a while to build up a stock, so let me know if you need one!


EDIT: Also, breeding now apparently drops the baby into the Pokéball that was used to catch the mother, rather than a standard one. Because the first Tropius I hatched came out in an Ultra Ball.

2nd EDIT: I also made Grand Duke. I'm about to face the Fairy Gym. Booyaka!

[WildRaubtier]

did you still want pokerus? i got a diseased froakie off the WT which i've since traded away again (for a charmander lol)

tropius is awesome

[Skyblade]

did you still want pokerus? i got a diseased froakie off the WT which i've since traded away again (for a charmander lol)

tropius is awesome

I do indeed.

So far I've hatched two females. If you want them nicknamed, just let me know. Also, I'll need to find you online. I'm not sure I know everyone's in-game names yet. Just look for the guy with the stylish black hat and dark hair and you should find me.

EDIT: I'll be leaving for work in an hour or so (9:30 CST), and I'll be back around 4:30 CST. I'll try to stay hooked up most of tonight for anyone who wants to pick up a Tropius or two. On your in-game Friends List, my character should have a black hat with a white band around it, a black shirt, dark brown hair, blue eyes, and a grey button on the hat. Best way I can think of to point myself out. Offer to trade with me, and just toss up whatever. I'm not too picky. If anyone has Y, I'd welcome a female Skrelp or Spritzee (I can also offer Swirlix's for those). Otherwise, just offer whatever. These Tropius are here to help, I don't really care about what I get in exchange.

Also, if you want any of those specific moves on your Tropius before I trade it, just let me know. I have the TMs/HMs for all of the Field Moves Tropius can learn (it hatches with Sweet Scent), so I can outfit it with whatever.

[Denmark]

Hmm.. Manectric(Mega), Mightyena, Stoutland, Granbull, and Arcanine all have Intimidate access. If only there was one more Dog with Intimidate! That would be an Intimidating party! I know. . . that was horrible!

Houndoom has Unnerve as its Hidden Ability, that's close?

[Tasura]

A Tropius would be great, and as far as outfitting it with moves, Pokemon with HM moves can't be traded. I've got a fair amount of things from WTs and FSZs that I could offer, but we'll see when the time comes.

[Endless]

48189

Right before going to fight (and beat) the Elite 4.

On that note, if you have beaten the E4, make sure you get the game synced with pokemon-gl (and make sure you do get it set up to sync if you haven't already) so it unlocks more Friend Safari Zone pokemons for your friends.

[Sephex]

I beat the main quest today. Still feeling great about this game! Not really sure how much extra stuff I will do, but either way I had lots of fun!

[Bunny]

I am just about to battle the fourth gym leader and I have gone a bit overboard on the whole leveling thing, I guess.

My party consists of:
Sylveon - Level 45
Greninja - Level 46
Lucario - Level 36
Tyrantrum - Level 39
Honedge - Level 22

Other Stats:
Badges: 3
Pokedex: 178
Time: 23:41

And an as of yet unclaimed spot. I might switch out the Tyrantrum now that he is evolved, but I am kind of digging his look. I caught another Honedge since the one I had was from WT and was beginning to get a little too out of control. Her main function will be to catch Pokemon with False Swipe, but I'm actually pretty sold on her overall.

Enjoying the game immensely so far.

[Madame Adequate]

I just beat the Eighth Gym and my party is as follows:

Guillaume (Sliggoo) - Level 40
Honorine (Pyroar) - Level 58
Hortense (Steelix) - Level 70
Chevalle (Sigilyph) - Level 72
Archard (Machamp) - Level 73
De Gualle (Chesnaught) - Level 73

Badges - 8
Dex - 303
Time - 55:41

My four mains are absurdly powerful. I've yet to meet something one or more of them can't wreck. Also Archard is equipped with a Metronome and has Power-Up Punch, so if I just use that one move by the time he's on the third or fourth consecutive use he will one-shot things he is not very effective against. It's glorious.

[Night Fury]

I've defeated the Elite 4, so now I'm just trying to Catch em all or something :D

My main team is

Charizard - lvl 71
Aurorus - lvl 75
Greninja - lvl 68
Xerneas - lvl 60
Lucario - lvl 60
Altaria - lvl 58

Also, story related question: why does nobody seem to question that there is a man the size of a giant just wandering around?

[Skyblade]

Finally ready to take on the Fairy Gym. Ugh, catching a female Carnivine and Barboach took so long. I hate the skewed gender ratios on some Pokémon (although Barboach was mostly just really rare in general). Also, at some point I'll need to go back and catch all the Pokémon again to get them in Luxury Balls. I love Luxury Balls. They're the only long-term use ball, and they're to coolest looking. When I found out any Pokémon I bred would wind up in them if the parent was caught in them, I knew I had to use them for everything. Sure, they're expensive, but money really isn't a problem for a Grand Duke.

My team is constantly shifting and updating between three or four teams (a first for the series, usually I am extremely set on a single team). I'm planning to go in with:

Greninja, Level 100 (he carries my Amulet Coin, and will be swapped out without fighting)
Gengar, Level 54
Ampharos, Level 37
Blaziken, Level 48
Charizard, Level 37 (with Charizardite X, rather than my more preferred Charizard, who is carrying a Charizardite Y)
Absol, Level 75

I'd just like to share Greninja's stats here briefly:
HP: 259
Attack: 215
Defense: 139
Sp. Atk: 332
Sp. Def: 167
Speed: 331

Look at that Speed and Sp. Atk! For so long, he was rushing with the two neck-and-neck. Sp. Atk would pull ahead by a point, and then Speed would catch back up. I honestly wasn't sure if they would wind up equal or not. But as he got closer to 100, Speed fell behind by two points at one level, and I realized that it would probably wind up this way.


Pokémon who didn't make the cut for my current team:
Salamence, Level 53
Meowstic, Level 36 (you're awesome, but you're fully evolved and can't Mega Evolve)
Chesnaught, Level 37
Delphox, Level 40
Mawile, Level 83 (my False Swiper, way too powerful)
Lucario, Level 32 (from Korrina, my Physical Lucario)
Lucario, Level 45 (caught as Riolu, Sp. Att based sweeper with Aura Sphere)
Aerodactyl, Level 49
Gardevoir, Level 44
Kangaskhan, Level 44
Venusaur, Level 40
Blastoise, Level 40
Charizard, Level 47 (Charizardite Y carrier)
Smeargle, Level 30 (setting him up as a Baton Passer with Quiver Dance, Coil, and Double Team, but he's not ready yet)

I use all of these guys at some point or another, and I love them all. Further, I just caught a ton of Eevee, so I'll be able to pick up my absolute favorite Espeon shortly.

I love the availability and variety of Pokémon in this game. There are still tons more I would love to use, and I probably will set up daily teams once I hit post-game to just go through and have a blast with all the Pokémon.

Oh, and lest I forget, my HM Slaves:
Tropius, Level 27
-Fly
-Flash
-Rock Smash
-Sweet Scent

Bibarel, level 70
-Cut
-Strength
-Surf
-Superpower (no Waterfall yet, but that will go here)

Again, if you want a Tropius, let me know. And even if I can't trade HM moves, I can trade one with Flash, Rock Smash, and Sweet Scent.

[Tasura]

So an update stat/team wise.

Time: 135:24
Pokedex: 547 (I just need Articuno and my Kalos Dex will be complete)

Delphox (100)
Aegislash (85)
Charizard (92)
Venusaur (81)
Greninja (90)
Hydreigon (64) The newest and final member of my full team, he will however be subbed out when I get a Pokemon I need to evolve.

And as for what I need to do now, just grind Battle Maison until I get enough BP for the Electabuzz and Magmar evolution items.

[Bunny]

Again, if you want a Tropius, let me know. And even if I can't trade HM moves, I can trade one with Flash, Rock Smash, and Sweet Scent.

I would take a Tropius if they are being offered.

[Pike]

Thanks to the power of Exp Share, Pokemon Amie XP boost, O-Power XP boosts and so forth I have a team of ten readily interchangeable Pokemon who I just swap out as needed. In the list are:

Xerneas Lv. 56
Talonflame Lv. 56
Malamar Lv. 57
Ampharos Lv. 57
Alakazam Lv. 57
Lucario Lv. 58
Blastoise Lv. 59
Tyrantrum Lv. 59
Chesnaught Lv. 59
Charizard Lv. 60

It's tough to pick a personal favorite from my group but I might have to give it to Ampharos, who aside from being my Poke-bro since gen 2, is absoultely ~fabulous~ in mega form.

Anyways, just about ready to take on the eighth gym.

[Jinx]

Where did you find Ampharos! I want Ampharos.

I want a female Ampharos. I want to name her Ewe La La because of the Mega Evolution!

[Tasura]

Where did you find Ampharos! I want Ampharos.

I want a female Ampharos. I want to name her Ewe La La because of the Mega Evolution!

You can catch Mareeps on Route 12 from Hordes.

[Skyblade]

Again, if you want a Tropius, let me know. And even if I can't trade HM moves, I can trade one with Flash, Rock Smash, and Sweet Scent.

I would take a Tropius if they are being offered.

You friended me, right? My system is online now, so just find me and offer to trade something. Still wearing the black hat and clothes.

Oh, yes. Mareep is Horde-only. So Sweet Scent is your best friend for getting your Ampharos. Pick up a Tropius! They come with it. :)

[Sephex]

Might as well list my stats again like other people did. As said yesterday, I beat the main quest.

My Pokeparty:
Charizard Lv. 77
Lucario Lv. 75
Lapras Lv. 74
Delphox Lv. 75
Xerneas Lv. 78
Aegislash Lv. 78

Badges: 8
Pokedex: 337
Time: 39:52

Basically, I only had one Pokemon faint during one of the Elite Four. I totally trounced the champion. Not saying this like it is hard to do, but I have to admit it was satisfying since my last playthrough of Pokemon Black I somewhat struggled since I didn't really build up my party in that game that well.

Oh, and I'll probably try to get a more complete Pokedex, but I usually just stop out of nowhere. The main game is usually enough for me when it comes to Pokemon, but you never know! I am actually going to mess around with it today. Also, here are my last two pics!

http://i.imgur.com/IfLf5rS.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/wYKr6Y4.jpg

[Tasura]

Yea, the Elite 4 was kinda easy, I one hit killed most of their Pokemon, until Siebold, but I was trying to keep my Delphox alive instead of just plowing through. And as of now I just need 6 FSZ Pokemon, Articuno, and more evolutions/breedings and I'll be done what can be done in game until the bank goes live.

[Grim Reaper]

Yea, the Elite 4 was kinda easy, I one hit killed most of their Pokemon, until Siebold, but I was trying to keep my Delphox alive instead of just plowing through. And as of now I just need 6 FSZ Pokemon, Articuno, and more evolutions/breedings and I'll be done what can be done in game until the bank goes live.

Added to the ranks.

[Nicolas]

Yeah. Getting Pokemon off the GTS is a little frustrating. Ah well.

[Skyblade]

Yeah. Getting Pokemon off the GTS is a little frustrating. Ah well.

Anything put up for a reasonable exchange is gone within moments of being put up.

Everything else is asking for one of the Legendary Trio.

How fast can you speed run this game? I'd rush through Y several times to stockpile Yveltals for picking up rare Pokémon if it was worth it (although Xerneas is way better).

[Tasura]

I've been getting what I need with FSZ Dittos xD. For the most part they'll be gone in minutes. Articuno is going to be the hard one though, almost everyone seems to want previous Gen legendarys or the 3 'possible event' Pokemon from the rumor.

[Pike]

I'm still proceeding at a very leisurely pace. Give it another week and maybe I'll have finally beaten the game. Maaaybe. :shifty:

Greatly enjoying everything though!

[Endless]

Sephex, Locky, possibly Pike and others : do set up your account at Pokémon Global Link (http://www.pokemon-gl.com)
In game, go to the PSS page, then click on the little folder icon (where the GTS is found), then go to the second page and hit "game sync", it'll take you through the steps to link your game to your PGL account. After that, sync your game and it'll open more Safari Zone pokemons for everyone ;)

[Sephex]

Sephex, Locky, possibly Pike and others : do set up your account at Pokémon Global Link (http://www.pokemon-gl.com)
In game, go to the PSS page, then click on the little folder icon (where the GTS is found), then go to the second page and hit "game sync", it'll take you through the steps to link your game to your PGL account. After that, sync your game and it'll open more Safari Zone pokemons for everyone ;)

I actually tried yesterday and it was down for maintenance. I will try again later when I get home from work.

[Nicolas]

Sephex, Locky, possibly Pike and others : do set up your account at Pokémon Global Link (http://www.pokemon-gl.com)
In game, go to the PSS page, then click on the little folder icon (where the GTS is found), then go to the second page and hit "game sync", it'll take you through the steps to link your game to your PGL account. After that, sync your game and it'll open more Safari Zone pokemons for everyone ;)

I actually tried yesterday and it was down for maintenance. I will try again later when I get home from work.

Yeah. It's constantly down for maintenance. It just means keep trying. But it's a good way to track a few things for yourself. Not an entirely bad setup.

[Sephex]

Sephex, Locky, possibly Pike and others : do set up your account at Pokémon Global Link (http://www.pokemon-gl.com)
In game, go to the PSS page, then click on the little folder icon (where the GTS is found), then go to the second page and hit "game sync", it'll take you through the steps to link your game to your PGL account. After that, sync your game and it'll open more Safari Zone pokemons for everyone ;)

I actually tried yesterday and it was down for maintenance. I will try again later when I get home from work.

Yeah. It's constantly down for maintenance. It just means keep trying. But it's a good way to track a few things for yourself. Not an entirely bad setup.

Like I said, I'll give a whirl. I should have done it sooner, but I was just having too much fun playing the main game! I did catch a few new Pokemon in my last session. And I know the Friend Safari allows you to get more, so I hope I can get it to connect later.

[Bunny]

Again, if you want a Tropius, let me know. And even if I can't trade HM moves, I can trade one with Flash, Rock Smash, and Sweet Scent.

I would take a Tropius if they are being offered.

You friended me, right? My system is online now, so just find me and offer to trade something. Still wearing the black hat and clothes.

I have friended both of your codes but I have never seen you online.

Also this seems to be an easy-to-follow and fairly in-depth guide to breeding good Pokemon: http://i.imgur.com/XKteYOA.png

[Sephex]

Got Pokemon Global Link to work, so go ahead and use me for some Pokemon in the Friend Safari zone!

[Endless]

Got Pokemon Global Link to work, so go ahead and use me for some Pokemon in the Friend Safari zone!

Doesn't look like your game is synced with the website yet, so it's only 2 pokemons from your FSZ for now.

[Pike]

so linking up to that Global Link gets you your third Pokemon in Friend Safari?

(Also: Goomy Clicker (http://ernston.com/goomyclicker/) )

[Jinx]

OH MY GOD IT'S CANDIES BUT WITH GOOMIES

[Tasura]

so linking up to that Global Link gets you your third Pokemon in Friend Safari?

(Also: Goomy Clicker (http://ernston.com/goomyclicker/) )

Yes, after you've beat the Elite 4, saved and synced with the PGL through Game Sync, then it unlocks the third Pokemon in your FSZ for your friends. Now you have to be online in game to sync, and it only syncs every few hours, so it may take awhile after you're done the main story for it to go through.

[Aulayna]

(Also: Goomy Clicker (http://ernston.com/goomyclicker/) )

http://bookriot.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/09/why.gif

[Skyblade]

Again, if you want a Tropius, let me know. And even if I can't trade HM moves, I can trade one with Flash, Rock Smash, and Sweet Scent.

I would take a Tropius if they are being offered.

You friended me, right? My system is online now, so just find me and offer to trade something. Still wearing the black hat and clothes.

I have friended both of your codes but I have never seen you online.

Also this seems to be an easy-to-follow and fairly in-depth guide to breeding good Pokemon: http://i.imgur.com/XKteYOA.png

I think it brings up the Trainer name, not the Friend Card name. I think Tasura got one of my Pokémon (what is the plural of Tropius anyway?), so ask him for confirmation of that. Although, apparently, I was taking queues from Jinx, because it seems I somehow missed your Friend Code. Sorry. :( Friended now.

I also switched out my Fedora for an Outdoor Cap (still black). Mostly because it's more of a hipster hat than a Fedora. Just because due to the way the characters are constructed, getting a full-brimmed Fedora really wouldn't work, but it still leaves me unhappy with the result.

Currently breeding up an ideal Lucario, or trying to. I got a male and a female Riolu with alternating perfect stats (the male is perfect in HP, Defense, and Speed, and the female is perfect in Attack, Special Attack, and Special Defense), so once I get them evolved I should be able to breed until I get a 5/6 perfect to make my main Lucario. This generation really has been a boon to breeding. It's still a pain, but it is far easier and more enjoyable than it has ever been before.

[Tasura]

Also, in order to see someone's third slot Pokemon for the FSZ you both have to be online at the same time after they've beat the E4 and game synced. I know this because a friend who hasn't played the game since she beat the E4 logged in and couldn't see my 3rd slot even though Nico has been able to see it for days. I signed into the game and she immediately was able to see it.

[Aulayna]

I'm nearly earning 1,000,000 3.5 million Goomies per second. -_-'

[Tasura]

I'm nearly earning 1,000,000 3.5 million Goomies per second. -_-'

7.7m per second for me~

And as an update to the actual game.

Time: 148:50
Pokedex: 592

[Sephex]

Got Pokemon Global Link to work, so go ahead and use me for some Pokemon in the Friend Safari zone!

Doesn't look like your game is synced with the website yet, so it's only 2 pokemons from your FSZ for now.

Hmm, well, I know I meet the requirements, so I guess I'll just keep connecting until it shows up with 3 Pokemanz. When that happens please tell me. Also, please tell me what Pokemon is in mine since you can't look at your own FSZ!

[Tasura]

Got Pokemon Global Link to work, so go ahead and use me for some Pokemon in the Friend Safari zone!

Doesn't look like your game is synced with the website yet, so it's only 2 pokemons from your FSZ for now.

Hmm, well, I know I meet the requirements, so I guess I'll just keep connecting until it shows up with 3 Pokemanz. When that happens please tell me. Also, please tell me what Pokemon is in mine since you can't look at your own FSZ!

Like I said, you both have to be online at the same time for the FSZs to sync, which is also why I can't see your third yet. But you're Psychic type, your first 2 are Munna and Espurr, and your third will either be Xatu, Girafarig, Gothorita or Duosion.

[Sephex]

Got Pokemon Global Link to work, so go ahead and use me for some Pokemon in the Friend Safari zone!

Doesn't look like your game is synced with the website yet, so it's only 2 pokemons from your FSZ for now.

Hmm, well, I know I meet the requirements, so I guess I'll just keep connecting until it shows up with 3 Pokemanz. When that happens please tell me. Also, please tell me what Pokemon is in mine since you can't look at your own FSZ!

Like I said, you both have to be online at the same time for the FSZs to sync, which is also why I can't see your third yet. But you're Psychic type, your first 2 are Munna and Espurr, and your third will either be Xatu, Girafarig, Gothorita or Duosion.

Ah okay. I know I been online at the same time with you at one point because 3 Pokemon showed up for you. I think Locky has too. Well, not sure how long I'll be on today since I started to play through Ocarina of Time on the 3DS again (since I beat Wind Waker HD on the Wii U recently, I got in the mood for it).

So for those interested, I will try to play anywhere from around 2:30 to 4pm central US time at the very least today. It depends on how my day goes.

[Tasura]

Got Pokemon Global Link to work, so go ahead and use me for some Pokemon in the Friend Safari zone!

Doesn't look like your game is synced with the website yet, so it's only 2 pokemons from your FSZ for now.

Hmm, well, I know I meet the requirements, so I guess I'll just keep connecting until it shows up with 3 Pokemanz. When that happens please tell me. Also, please tell me what Pokemon is in mine since you can't look at your own FSZ!

Like I said, you both have to be online at the same time for the FSZs to sync, which is also why I can't see your third yet. But you're Psychic type, your first 2 are Munna and Espurr, and your third will either be Xatu, Girafarig, Gothorita or Duosion.

Ah okay. I know I been online at the same time with you at one point because 3 Pokemon showed up for you. I think Locky has too.

After I beat the Elite 4 sure, but that was days ago, but we haven't been online at the same time since you beat them/game synced.

[Sephex]

Got Pokemon Global Link to work, so go ahead and use me for some Pokemon in the Friend Safari zone!

Doesn't look like your game is synced with the website yet, so it's only 2 pokemons from your FSZ for now.

Hmm, well, I know I meet the requirements, so I guess I'll just keep connecting until it shows up with 3 Pokemanz. When that happens please tell me. Also, please tell me what Pokemon is in mine since you can't look at your own FSZ!

Like I said, you both have to be online at the same time for the FSZs to sync, which is also why I can't see your third yet. But you're Psychic type, your first 2 are Munna and Espurr, and your third will either be Xatu, Girafarig, Gothorita or Duosion.

Ah okay. I know I been online at the same time with you at one point because 3 Pokemon showed up for you. I think Locky has too.

After I beat the Elite 4 sure, but that was days ago, but we haven't been online at the same time since you beat them/game synced.

Ah well, that probably explains it then because I know you met the requirements ages ago! Again, I'll try to be online for the time I listed above for other people.

[Endless]

I'll just leave mine online and plugged to the cradle one night so it catches everyone >.>

[Pike]

Beat the game. Good lordy that Mega Gardevoir dishes out some serious damage.

Time: 61:11
Pokedex: 322

Team I used:

63 Lucario
65 Charizard
66 Alakazam
67 Ampharos
67 Blastoise
69 Chesnaught

Oh, and 7,161,861.4 Goomies per second.

[Skyblade]

First shiny! A male Crawdaunt, randomly fished from Route 3, after the Santalune Forest. Wasn't even chained, just pulled up while going back through with the Super Rod.

[Quindiana Jones]

Currently earning just over 10M Goomies a second. I really like the factoids. :)

e; Level 63. I wonder how high the facts go?

[Nicolas]

Someone here should really make a list of all the Pokemon available through the FSZ from the people at EoFF. I'd say that'd be a nice bonus.

[Agent Proto]

Would they be the same for everyone? like will others encounter the same Pokemon from a certain person, or would they be different?

[Endless]

The three pokemons you can get from my FSZ (they include ditto, btw) are the same three for all my friends.

Oh, and:
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[Nicolas]

Would they be the same for everyone? like will others encounter the same Pokemon from a certain person, or would they be different?

From what was discussed by Endless, and in the chat, yeah. They are going to be the same.

[Tasura]

Someone here should really make a list of all the Pokemon available through the FSZ from the people at EoFF. I'd say that'd be a nice bonus.

I totally posted one in chat dude, pay attention. Anyway, the list is;

Aipom, Lilipup, Minccino, Chansey, Paras, Venemoth, Nuzleaf, Vullaby, Cacturne, Electabuzz, Luxio, Zebstrika, Galvantula, Togepi, Clefairy, Mankey, Tyrogue, Breloom, Growlithe, Ponyta, Magmar, Larvesta, Ninetales, Tranquill, Tropius, Rufflet, Dusclops, Spiritomb, Tangela, Sunkern, Swadloon, Petilil, Sawsbuck, Maractus, Phanpy, Camerupt, Gastrodon, Palpitoad, Snorunt, Spheal, Dewgong, Muk, Drowzee,Munna, Xatu, Girafarig, Forrettress, Klang, Metang, Bronzong, Excadrill, Krabby.

Those are the FSZ only Pokemon.

And don't pay attention to Endless' Goomy Clicker, he cheated =P. I'm making 18.4m/s

[Jinx]

I'm making 48.7 million/sec.

[Nicolas]

Someone here should really make a list of all the Pokemon available through the FSZ from the people at EoFF. I'd say that'd be a nice bonus.

I totally posted one in chat dude, pay attention. Anyway, the list is;

Aipom, Lilipup, Minccino, Chansey, Paras, Venemoth, Nuzleaf, Vullaby, Cacturne, Electabuzz, Luxio, Zebstrika, Galvantula, Togepi, Clefairy, Mankey, Tyrogue, Breloom, Growlithe, Ponyta, Magmar, Larvesta, Ninetales, Tranquill, Tropius, Rufflet, Dusclops, Spiritomb, Tangela, Sunkern, Swadloon, Petilil, Sawsbuck, Maractus, Phanpy, Camerupt, Gastrodon, Palpitoad, Snorunt, Spheal, Dewgong, Muk, Drowzee,Munna, Xatu, Girafarig, Forrettress, Klang, Metang, Bronzong, Excadrill, Krabby.

Those are the FSZ only Pokemon.

And don't pay attention to Endless' Goomy Clicker, he cheated =P. I'm making 18.4m/s

I meant for the People of EoFF. Each EoFFer has a specific type and Pokemon, right? A list of those for everyone would be nice. ;p

[Tasura]

Someone here should really make a list of all the Pokemon available through the FSZ from the people at EoFF. I'd say that'd be a nice bonus.

I totally posted one in chat dude, pay attention. Anyway, the list is;

Aipom, Lilipup, Minccino, Chansey, Paras, Venemoth, Nuzleaf, Vullaby, Cacturne, Electabuzz, Luxio, Zebstrika, Galvantula, Togepi, Clefairy, Mankey, Tyrogue, Breloom, Growlithe, Ponyta, Magmar, Larvesta, Ninetales, Tranquill, Tropius, Rufflet, Dusclops, Spiritomb, Tangela, Sunkern, Swadloon, Petilil, Sawsbuck, Maractus, Phanpy, Camerupt, Gastrodon, Palpitoad, Snorunt, Spheal, Dewgong, Muk, Drowzee,Munna, Xatu, Girafarig, Forrettress, Klang, Metang, Bronzong, Excadrill, Krabby.

Those are the FSZ only Pokemon.

And don't pay attention to Endless' Goomy Clicker, he cheated =P. I'm making 18.4m/s

I meant for the People of EoFF. Each EoFFer has a specific type and Pokemon, right? A list of those for everyone would be nice. ;p

I apparently missed half of your original sentence, go me.

[WildRaubtier]

So, Endless has a Ditto FSZ? Isn't that all we need to know?

[Quindiana Jones]

My Goomies stretch from here to the Sun. Hell yes. 562bn Goomies at my command! :mwahaha:

[Skyblade]

As much as I didn't like Candies, I wanted to try Goomy Clicker. But it doesn't seem to work on my machine. :(

Not compatible with IE?

Still breeding Riolu. I've gotten a couple good ones, which will help narrow my focus for later results. I'll probably have some spare, high-IV Jolly nature Riolu if anyone wants them when I'm done. In a day or two. It's faster and better, but not that much faster.

[Quindiana Jones]

Dude, what on Earth are you doing using IE?

[Skyblade]

Dude, what on Earth are you doing using IE?

Pretty much everything. I hear everyone complain about it, but this is only the second thing I've found it can't do, the other also being a homemade flash game.

It doesn't usually cause me any problems, and it does everything I want it to do. So why switch? No one has ever answered that question for me. Heck, most of the other browsers I've seen and tried just seem to be versions of IE with special "helpful" toolbars added (which I loathe and never want).

Give me a good reason to switch, and a good suggestion as to which to switch to, and I will. I don't exactly have any love for IE. It's just...there. It came on my PC, and never really screwed up.

[Quindiana Jones]

Because you can't play Goomy Clicker.

[Pike]

Well Skyblade, as long as you're not using a several year old version of IE like BoB is then at least there's that.

[Tasura]

So Nico asked for this at one point, and I got bored enough to make it. http://goo.gl/WKS9zF it's a list of all Pokemon currently not obtainable in X/Y and it lists their 'class' (Standard/Starter/Legendary) and what game to get them in, that's closest to Gen 6 for easiest trading. I even threw in basic directions as to where they can be caught.

[Jinx]

2.4 trillion Goomies.
72.9 Goomies per second.


halp

[Skyblade]

Ok, so I almost immediately run into the same problem Candies had: It's boring. I've gotten up to level 5, with over 3000 Goomies, and there is nothing to do except click. Where the heck is the content, and why did both of these games think that boring you out of your wits for half an hour is the best way to get you engaged? I gave up on Candies before I even reached the combat, and I'm about to give up on Goomy Clicker without having discovered anything worthwhile about it.

[Jinx]

If you gave up on Candies before you even reached the quests, I hardly think you can give an opinion on it. That's when the game starts getting fun and becomes challenging.

[Quindiana Jones]

Christ, woman, how? I've been spending furiously, and I'm still only on 41M per second. xD

[Jinx]

:)

[Pike]

Goomy Clicker is based off of Cookie Clicker which has less content than Candies to begin with. Goomy Clicker is also unfinished. It's mostly just there to leave open in a tab for fun I think. :shobon:

[Skyblade]

If you gave up on Candies before you even reached the quests, I hardly think you can give an opinion on it. That's when the game starts getting fun and becomes challenging.

If I hadn't already spent multiple hours on it, that might be fair.

At least FFXIII did something to try to get you through the boring slog before the actual content unlocks.

[Jinx]

How did you not reach the quests? It only takes 150 candies to buy your first sword. xD

[Skyblade]

How did you not reach the quests? It only takes 150 candies to buy your first sword. xD

And then you have to trudge through the forest to collect wood, and there were several other steps that I'd forgotten. Heck I had tons of candies by leaving the page open for a full day, it was just that there wasn't enough engagement for me to get through to the rest of the game. Even though, from what I've heard, once you get into it, there's a lot there.

In other news, my Riolu breeding is going well, and I'm almost ready to go back to the main game!

Everyone likes to run a physical Lucario, but I'm planning to set up the perfect Special Sweeper. It should be fun. :)

[Nicolas]

OK. I spent a little bit of time, with the help of Tasura, to put this lovely little link together. It's fairly self explanatory in that it is the list of Friend Safari Zones. Every user who has typed in here, presented their 3DS Friend Code in here or the Console Codes Thread, and have either added myself or Tasura is in this list. If people such as Denmark, Mister Adequate, or Pike want to add their 3DS Friend Codes or there are any updates that need to be made to this, please let me know or just type what needs to be updated in the comments section. I'll be happy to update it.

Obviously, if you add anybody in here, make it clear you added them. For example, I added Mr. Shauna, Bunny, and Aulayna. Also, I think Endless has mentioned the method for your third FSZ Pokemon to be discovered. If not, then you have to sync with Pokemon Global Link (http://www.pokemon-gl.com), beat the Elite Four, and make sure you are online at the same time as the others who have your friend code. Yeah, I know, it's kind of a pain.

Enjoy your Friend Safari Zones (http://goo.gl/KM5rY3).

[Agent Proto]

I think I added everyone listed, minus Pike due to her lack of 3DS Friend Code.

[Bunny]

Why does Pike hate us? :(

[Tigmafuzz]

Goomy Clicker (http://ernston.com/goomyclicker/)

Import save:
56fk9x4moDjpwys2Qwhi02Qwu4k8Acc2MED2oY95Mxv1Cc5MMpv1lc55QCBC8l1U0Vyg

EDIT: Just found out that once you reach a certain amount, the game can't even properly export/import your code properly. Hmm.


I wonder how high the facts go?

It stops at "the distance light travels in [x] decades."

[Pike]

Why is everyone mad at me when there are other people too lazy to share their codes as well :mad2:

Huxley's is Bug btw. The only interesting thing he has is Heracross though.

Edit: Hux and I never synced with the Pokemon Global Link but we each have access to each other's third Pokemon. Are we sure that part is necessary?

[Endless]

Enjoy your Friend Safari Zones (http://goo.gl/KM5rY3).

Good job. Btw, could you add a column with the Trainer name? For several people (myself included), it's different from both their eoff and 3ds names.

Edit: Sephex' third is Gothorita

[Tasura]

Enjoy your Friend Safari Zones (http://goo.gl/KM5rY3).

Good job. Btw, could you add a column with the Trainer name? For several people (myself included), it's different from both their eoff and 3ds names.

The FSZ uses 3DS name, not character name. So unless you want to know for trading purposes you can just go check the FSZ and compare 3DS name to character portrait.

[Endless]

Why is everyone mad at me when there are other people too lazy to share their codes as well :mad2:

Stop being lazy and give your code ;D


Huxley's is Bug btw. The only interesting thing he has is Heracross though.

Edit: Hux and I never synced with the Pokemon Global Link but we each have access to each other's third Pokemon. Are we sure that part is necessary?

It might not be necessary indeed, it might just be that seeing each other is enough. Nevertheless, the PGL is cool and you can share stuff with your trainer-friends such as pictures, events, medals...

[ShunNakamura]

Hmm.. So I am Electric, eh? Electric may not be my favorite type(mostly because I don't particularly like most electrics compared to the likes of Growlithe), but I always did like Electabuzz. Though I always thought he should have been part fighting.

[Sephex]

Enjoy your Friend Safari Zones (http://goo.gl/KM5rY3).

Good job. Btw, could you add a column with the Trainer name? For several people (myself included), it's different from both their eoff and 3ds names.

Edit: Sephex' third is Gothorita

Sweet, thanks.

[Tasura]

So now I am 99.99% done Y (Until the Bank goes live). The only Pokemon I don't have in my Dex, that is catchable in game, is Articuno. I have all the Y Mega stones, I have completed all Looker missions, I have achieved Max Style, and I have all the O-Powers (The last one you can't get until you have max style). The only other thing I could chase after is getting 1 of every Vivillon pattern, but I'm only missing 6, a couple of which are super rare, namely Ocean which is only available to Hawaii and at least one small island off of Madagascar.

Stats~
Time: 161:15
Pokedex: Seen 601, Caught 594. (595 is what's available including Articuno)

[Nicolas]

Actually, I'll add in the Trainer names too, but I'd need to either meet the person, I believe, or just have you all put them in here. It'll make it a bit more inclusive for us all. I also updated the list for the two bits of info in there. If you know of anybody that wants to be added to the list, let me know as well. I can add them in too.

[Agent Proto]

Well, it appears that there might be more new Pokemon coming via future event.


http://www.product-reviews.net/wp-content/uploads/pokemon-x-y-diancie-location.jpg
Diancie - Rock/Fairy

http://www.product-reviews.net/wp-content/uploads/pokemon-x-y-hoopa-location.jpg
Hoopa - Psychic/Ghost

http://www.product-reviews.net/wp-content/uploads/pokemon-x-y-volcanion-leak.jpg
Volcanion - Fire/Water

[Pike]

Whooooaaa it's those ones that had been "leaked" earlier.

[WildRaubtier]

Unless Volcanion is a fully operational stargate, i don't like it

also way to not post the mega latias/latios pics (http://www.serebii.net/latias.jpg) (they megaevo into the same thing, apparently)

I had/have a pretty strong inkling that there's more pokemon (normal evos of past lines, new pokemon, etc) and mega evos that haven't been revealed yet.

[Skyblade]

Interestingly enough, those do not appear to be legendaries. I mean, a level 3 found in the forest? Yeah, I'm wondering where we're going with this.

Also, Tasura, why can't you get Articuno? What makes it so rare compared to Zapdos and Moltres?


I had/have a pretty strong inkling that there's more pokemon (normal evos of past lines, new pokemon, etc) and mega evos that haven't been revealed yet.

I think everyone's come to that conclusion by now. The only way the event Pokémon were leaked early before was because the Pokédex was hacked. With the lack of hacking/manipulation on the 3DS, any event only Pokémon are going to stay under wraps.

I think the only reason these three were "found" early is because they're still in the systems, and people spent way too long trying names on the GTS. Or an insider leaked it.

But I am sure there are new Megas and new Pokémon that we have yet to see on their way.

I'm also wondering if these are indeed being introduced as an update, and whether we are finally going to get actual ad-on content for the games instead of just events.

[WildRaubtier]

They're legendaries, alright. The guy hacking them in (a frenchie hosting a site at smea's devblog (http://smealum.net)) apparently only modified the wild pokemon appearance values and not the level, which is why the mega I linked to doesn't have a mega evo icon next to its name (it's level 100 though, so apparently this guy figured that part out along the way).

Gamefreak stated that they wanted to release the game fully functional and wouldn't be releasing any content patches, so its likely that everything is already hard coded into the game and just waiting to be found by this guy, OR we wait until they release a minor patch (not unlike the lumoise city fix recently) to unlock the required areas.

[Skyblade]

They're legendaries, alright. The guy hacking them in (a frenchie hosting a site at smea's devblog (http://smealum.net)) apparently only modified the wild pokemon appearance values and not the level, which is why the mega I linked to doesn't have a mega evo icon next to its name (it's level 100 though, so apparently this guy figured that part out along the way).

Gamefreak stated that they wanted to release the game fully functional and wouldn't be releasing any content patches, so its likely that everything is already hard coded into the game and just waiting to be found by this guy, OR we wait until they release a minor patch (not unlike the lumoise city fix recently) to unlock the required areas.

Interesting. I was under the impression that the 3DS's coding was still solid. If they managed to crack it, I wonder how long it will be before an ARDS or something similar is made available. Although software updates for the 3DS will likely patch the vulnerability.

That is a real shame. I don't mind them wanting to release a full game, but I do think that Pokémon would benefit from using actual DLC rather than the extremely poorly put together event deliveries. The 3DS has DLC capability, I wish they'd use it.

Is the patch for the Lumiose Fix actually out?

[Endless]

Is the patch for the Lumiose Fix actually out?

Has been for a few days. Just get in the eshop, it'll prompt you to install it, takes 250ish blocks.

[Tasura]

Also, Tasura, why can't you get Articuno? What makes it so rare compared to Zapdos and Moltres?

The bird you find in game is based on your starter, and Chespin = Articuno. And apparently more people chose Froakie or Fennekin. And people on the GTS want things that aren't even getable in game, like previous gen Legends or starters, or those 3 rumored event Pokemon.

[Nicolas]

Also, Tasura, why can't you get Articuno? What makes it so rare compared to Zapdos and Moltres?

The bird you find in game is based on your starter, and Chespin = Articuno. And apparently more people chose Froakie or Fennekin. And people on the GTS want things that aren't even getable in game, like previous gen Legends or starters, or those 3 rumored event Pokemon.

Don't worry. I'll actually be working on that WT challenge in Y this weekend. Just as long as I can keep the levels down for the next gym or two, I should be fine.

[Pike]

Snagged Mewtwo on the battle's second turn with a Quick Ball. Also because Hux is restarting his game (just because he wants to play a girl :p ) he sent me all sorts of great mons and items. Pretty great.

[Skyblade]

Snagged Mewtwo on the battle's second turn with a Quick Ball. Also because Hux is restarting his game (just because he wants to play a girl :p ) he sent me all sorts of great mons and items. Pretty great.

To my knowledge, on any turn after the first, the Quick Ball is just a regular Pokeball. So you just got incredibly lucky.

Also, share your friend code!

[Tigmafuzz]

48246

My hype for these guys pretty much ran its course a few days ago. :(

[Quindiana Jones]

Lv 234. 78M Goomies per second. 13.1 trillion Goomies saved.

[Jinx]

You got me!

[Tigmafuzz]

Lv 234. 78M Goomies per second. 13.1 trillion Goomies saved.


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[Skyblade]

Diantha is going to turn out to be the Champion isn't she? What a letdown. I don't have anything against her as a character, but she is easily the best Champion the series has had (at least, of the games I played). Every other Champion (except Blue, who doesn't count) actually did something in the story.

Lance helped us hunt Team Rocket, across multiple games. He was, at heart, a Trainer and champion obsessed with justice and the strength and bonds of his team. He loved his dragons and constantly trained with them, but whenever he saw evil in his journeys, he hunted them down and stopped them. He was, perhaps, the most obsessed of all the Champions with stopping evil, believing it was the role of the strong to protect the weak, and his role as Champion to help out wherever he could. His life seemed to revolve around being the Champion: Training to be stronger and beating up bad guys.

Cynthia was a wandering archaeologist/historian who just happens to love her Pokémon and be exceptionally good at training them. She wanders from ancient ruin to ancient ruin studying the myths and legends of the Pokémon world. But, whenever she spots bad guys, she kicks their butt. She's kind of like the Pokémon world's version of Indiana Jones. No wonder she's one of the most well-received characters in the series.

Alder was a wandering trainer who simply tried to teach people to love their Pokémon and to enjoy the wonders they brought to the world. His own Pokémon partner had died to illness years ago, so he never really battled anymore, instead simply teaching and helping others to. Yet, when N and Team Plasma became a threat, he took a stand against them. Broken heart, lost partner, and all.

Iris helps you fight Team Plasma as well. Even before becoming the Champion, she helps protect Bianca and rescue her Munna, before helping to fight off the Seven Sages in N's Castle. You first meet her in Black 2/White 2 when she helps you look for Team Plasma in Castelia City. Again, she's a lover of Pokémon and a student of folk tales and dragons, but she still helps out the world/region wherever she can.

Diantha... Is an actress. Whoop-de-doo. She doesn't do anything in the game's story. She has a brief talk with Lysandre, during which he demonstrates just how psychotic and unbalanced he is, but then doesn't do anything else. Any other Champion would be right alongside us, fighting the bad guys and being a Champion of good. Diantha does nothing. I'm currently at the point where Team Flare has restarted a super weapon to annihilate most life on the planet. And our brave Champion is nowhere to be seen.

I am working from guesswork here, but if Diantha turns out not to be the Champion, the question becomes: What the heck is the point of her character at all, and why is the Champion (whoever it turns out to be) not doing anything?

Being a Champion wasn't just about being the strongest Trainer. It's been a position that Trainers look up to. Someone who is the Champion of justice and good throughout the region. Diantha just falls short there. Did Game Freak really think that they would have some big shocking reveal when she turns out to be the Champion? She serves no point in the game otherwise, so it is not exactly a hard twist to figure out. And was that twist really worth destroying the strength of the position of Champion? After a long line of heroic and helpful Champions, are we to see the role reduced to someone who disagrees with the bad guy in a café, and that's it?

I don't mind her as a character. In fact, I quite like her (though she would have made a lot more since in Unova, where the Player could interact with her at the movies directly). But if she turns out to be the Champion... I will be disappointed.


Anyway, I finally made it to being the top attendant at Hotel Richissme. It takes almost a week of perfect work, but then you start making 50k for each job, and get to meet the manager.

[Bunny]

I have defeated the Elite Four and Champion, becoming the new Champion of the Kalos region. The Elite Four were, for the most part, a pushover, in part due to having over leveled my main party though also because the Pokemon they used were too low. I really think they need to start altering the level of the Elite Four/Champion's Pokemon to match your own level, or a level only slightly lower than your own.

Anyway, my party was:

Aegislash - Level 83/84
Blaziken - Level 84
Greninja - Level 83/84
Sylveon - Level 93 (Swift against Horde lol)
Garchomp - Level 62/63

Total Time: 52:16
Pokedex: 332

My last slot was a filler since I haven't bothered to mess around with Leafeon yet, who will be my final Pokemon being that it is my absolute favorite.

I'm going to start messing around with breeding/IV/EV training and the like now, I guess, as well as grinding all of the other stuff in the game and messing around with different parties. Fairy-types are only slightly overpowered.

Overall, I like most of what they did with the changes in the game and I thoroughly enjoyed it as a whole. This will be the first Pokemon game that made me actually want to mess with breeding and IV/EV training, having legitimately never done it before.

[Del Murder]

This game is great. Most fun I've had in pokemon since Gold/Silver. I just got the third badge and have put in like 30 hours already. My current team:

Gardevoir
Charizard
Greninja
Doublade
Tyrunt
Pikachu - should evolve him to Raichu but he's so damn cute.

I also have that panda bear fighting/dark one for when I need a fighting pokemon.


I have defeated the Elite Four and Champion, becoming the new Champion of the Kalos region. The Elite Four were, for the most part, a pushover, in part due to having over leveled my main party though also because the Pokemon they used were too low. I really think they need to start altering the level of the Elite Four/Champion's Pokemon to match your own level, or a level only slightly lower than your own.
I agree that the game has been pretty easy so far. With the changes to make exp much easier to come by (Exp Share as a key item, not reducing exp for swapping out pokemon, getting exp from captured pokemon) they should have ramped up the difficulty of the gym leaders and Elite Four. I haven't gotten to the Four yet but I expect them to be pushovers due to me currently being about 10 levels higher than any trainer's pokemon (and I haven't really grinded at all).

[Pike]

Most fun I've had in pokemon since Gold/Silver.

My thoughts exactly! Gen 2 has always been my favorite but this game is really giving it a run for its money.

I'm still playing, yep. I beat the game about a week back but now I'm trying to complete as much of the Pokedex as possible :)

[Skyblade]

If you're finding your team too high of a level, I recommend starting a second. I constantly switch out and flip my team around, adding in new Pokémon to train and new strategies to setup. There are a ton of great Pokémon in this game, most of them easy to find. While I agree that they should have upped the difficulty (it gets worse if you usually Super-Train your team) and left in Challenge Mode, switching up gives you some variety in gameplay, lets you try new strategies, and removes some of the level gap. It's saved me from pathetically easy boss fights a couple of times.

[Pike]

Gotta second Skyblade's suggestion here; having a rotating team of about 10-11 pokemon helped with the level issue and was also pretty neat. In addition, while I agree the pacing was odd in the first half of the game, it got a little better as the game went on. By the end I was about even-level with the Elite Four (I still beat them on the first attempt-- the last fight was quite dicey though.)

[WildRaubtier]

The hacker I previously mentioned (https://twitter.com/Parque_Compi) has been busy. He's found 2 more Vivillon patterns and he stats/typing/abilities of Mega Latios/Latias (for the spoiler free version: they only look the same).

[Del Murder]

To increase the difficulty I think I won't evolve Pikachu and maybe toss in a few other new ones like you suggest. I have a 7-man rotation and I should probably increase it to 10.

I should try Wonder trade. I played this mostly on vacation when I didn't have an internet connection.

[Tasura]

I should try Wonder trade. I played this mostly on vacation when I didn't have an internet connection.

In the first half of the game WT is amazing, and you can get some decent late game stuff early, and given how long the games been out, quite a few people are WTing starters and FSZ only Pokemon, so those are even greater hauls. But the closer you get to the end of the game, the less good things you can get, because most of it you can catch yourself, minus the FSZ stuff anyway.

[Nicolas]

I should try Wonder trade. I played this mostly on vacation when I didn't have an internet connection.

In the first half of the game WT is amazing, and you can get some decent late game stuff early, and given how long the games been out, quite a few people are WTing starters and FSZ only Pokemon, so those are even greater hauls. But the closer you get to the end of the game, the less good things you can get, because most of it you can catch yourself, minus the FSZ stuff anyway.

WT is quite a bit of fun. It also makes your team rather interesting up until the 4th or 5th gym if you're doing the WT challenge. It can be annoying do to the level caps set by the badges and how quickly you can EXP. So very annoying.

[Skyblade]

I should try Wonder trade. I played this mostly on vacation when I didn't have an internet connection.

In the first half of the game WT is amazing, and you can get some decent late game stuff early, and given how long the games been out, quite a few people are WTing starters and FSZ only Pokemon, so those are even greater hauls. But the closer you get to the end of the game, the less good things you can get, because most of it you can catch yourself, minus the FSZ stuff anyway.

Worth mentioning in my opinion: Wonder Trade is not region-locked, so it is also a fantastic way to pick up French, German, and Japanese Pokédex entries, depending on when you do it.

[Del Murder]

I don't want no sissy French pokemon!

[Skyblade]

I don't want no sissy French pokemon!

Really playing the wrong game then. That's kind of, y'know, the entire basis of the Kalos region.

I guess that does explain why we have a Champion who does absolutely nothing to stop the bad guys.

Currently I'm trying to capture Xerneas. I really hate the way they make you catch the Legendary during the story. Putting the entire plot and progression on hold for the five thousand attempts it takes to get a decent stat role is a real damper on the series. Even with the new IV mechanics for the Unknown Egg Group, this sucks.

20 possible combinations for the 3 perfect IVs to be inherited. If you have a particular setup in mind (for Xerneas, I recommend HP, SpA, and Speed), that's a 1 in 20 chance. Oh, but you also only have a 50% chance of getting the proper Nature with Synchronize (go Modest. With Geomancy almost nothing will outspeed you anyway). So you're looking at 1 in 40 just for the main stats. If you want either Def or SpD to be decent, you'll be looking at additional rerolls.

At least with Mewtwo I could go on with the story, unlock the rest of the game, and do other things until I felt like going back to grind captures for a few hours.



Oh, and don't forget: It's Tuesday, so there's a chance you can find Rotom in the trash bins in the Lost Hotel!

[Del Murder]

Or you can just catch him and then stash him away with all your other hundreds of hoarded pokemon.

[Tasura]

Oh, and don't forget: It's Tuesday, so there's a chance you can find Rotom in the trash bins in the Lost Hotel!

Hah, no wonde rI could never find a Rotom, when I first got to the Lost Hotel there was no info about what day he spawned, just that he was in the trash cans. I eventually got 1 from GTS, and another from WT, so I never went back looking. Same with Banette only spawning on Thursdays, I got a Shuppet from GTS, so never went looking.

[Pike]

So I totally have Pokérus :plotting:

[Shauna]

So I totally have Pokérus :plotting:

I got Pokerus at some point. Left my game unplayed for a day or so, and it was gone. Taking advantage of what the game has to offer, me!

[Pike]

Apparently keeping the Pokerus Pokemon in the PC means it doesn't go away. Here's hoping! I'm gonna infect a bunch of random Pokemon and then WT them.

[Jinx]

Or you can just catch him and then stash him away with all your other hundreds of hoarded pokemon.

Or you could just have fun with the game and use what you get, because Pokemon is really easy.

[Pike]

Hey now, some people play competitively and stuff like natures matters quite a bit :p

[Madame Adequate]

For some of us breeding the best possible Pokemon is what is fun :p

[Del Murder]

Yeah, I can see that, but aren't legendaries usually banned from competitive battling?

[Mirage]

So whenever you finsih a fight to turn your 3ds upside down each time until the exp sharing is over :p

Just shift the local gravity. I mean come on guys.

[Pike]

Yeah, I can see that, but aren't legendaries usually banned from competitive battling?

Usually yes, but there are free-for-all matches too.

I actually don't really do competitive pokemon myself but I do like breeding :)

[ShunNakamura]

Yeah, I can see that, but aren't legendaries usually banned from competitive battling?

There are uber tiers to fight in. I am not sure if they have such at the official nintendo tournaments, but a lot of people like to play ubers competively. In addition not all legendaries get ubered. If I recall correctly Mew was not banned to the uber tier last gen. And if you count the Legendary Trios like the birds(Moltres, Articuno, Zapdos), the Beasts(Raikou, Entei, Suicune), or The legendary Golems; very few of them have ever been banned. I don't think Celebi was banned to ubers either. You also have things like the Swords of Justice whom I believe did not end up Uber Tiered.

However, the Mascot Legendaries are all, to my knowledge, firmly in Uber territory. Scratch that. I think Suicune was the Mascot for crystal wasn't it? All the other Version Mascots not in the uber tier are not legendary pokemon, I think.

Anyways that does mean that likely Yveltal and Xerneas, I can't believe I spelled them correctly without looking them up first, are likely to be firmly uber.

[Tasura]

Yeah, I can see that, but aren't legendaries usually banned from competitive battling?

There are uber tiers to fight in. I am not sure if they have such at the official nintendo tournaments, but a lot of people like to play ubers competively. In addition not all legendaries get ubered. If I recall correctly Mew was not banned to the uber tier last gen. And if you count the Legendary Trios like the birds(Moltres, Articuno, Zapdos), the Beasts(Raikou, Entei, Suicune), or The legendary Golems; very few of them have ever been banned. I don't think Celebi was banned to ubers either. You also have things like the Swords of Justice whom I believe did not end up Uber Tiered.

However, the Mascot Legendaries are all, to my knowledge, firmly in Uber territory. Scratch that. I think Suicune was the Mascot for crystal wasn't it? All the other Version Mascots not in the uber tier are not legendary pokemon, I think.

Anyways that does mean that likely Yveltal and Xerneas, I can't believe I spelled them correctly without looking them up first, are likely to be firmly uber.

In this Gen Celebi is banned, along with Keldeo, even though he's part of the Swords of Justice. This is of course, from the list of Battle Maison - Bulbapedia, the community-driven Pokémon encyclopedia (http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Battle_Maison#Banned_Pok.C3.A9mon) This leaves the trios(Birds, Beasts, Golems, Lake Guardians, Forces of Nature), Latias/Latios, Cresselia and the Swords of Justice(minus Keldeo) legal for use in official tournaments.

[Pike]

Even if Mewtwo is banned, some people enjoy catching Pokemon with very good IVs/natures the "natural" way rather than hacking them in or whatever. It keeps wi-fi play fun and is a perfectly legitimate way to play the game if that's what you like :D

[Skyblade]

Xerneas the life-giver is currently the ultimate destroyer in the Uber tier. By giving it a Power Herb, you skip the charge turn for Geomacy. This doubles Xerneas's Special Attack, Special Defense, and Speed in a single turn, essentially giving a Legendary-base stat Pokemon a Shell-Smash level sweeping boost, without the defensive drawbacks (and Shell-Smash Cloyster was already competitive in Ubers, even if it wasn't fantastic). Combine that with Fairy Aura, adding 30% to the damage of Fairy moves all the time, on top of STAB, and the fact that the only Pokemon who currently double resists Fairy is Heatran (who isn't even in-game yet), and you have a Pokemon who can destroy most competition with a single move.

But for me, it's not the competition, but the fact that this is the only Xerneas I can get. Any other Pokemon I could breed if I wanted it to be great. Even Yveltal I could just recapture from Y. But unless I want to buy another copy of X, this is my only Xerneas. It will also be the only Xerneas I'm the Original Trainer of, and being the OT is important to me. I like having my Pokémon. It's bad enough I can't be OT of the full legendary trio. Even if I pulled a Xerneas off of GTS, or got one through Wonder Trade, this one is mine, and that's important to me. It probably shouldn't be, but it is.

On the plus side, the fight and the music are epic, and trying to capture a Legendary (even one with as high a capture rate as Xerneas) with a Luxury Ball makes it fun. My current False Swiper is a level 93 Mawile, who resists Fairy and is considerably higher level than the level 50 Legendary. But after three Geomancy uses, even my Leftovers-carrying deception Pokémon is in for one heck of a fight (and usually gets one shotted if Xerneas does indeed have the max-Modest attack stat of 166 at that level, which is then multiplied by four because of Geomancy). One-shotting a resistant Pokémon 43 levels above it. That is Xerneas's power.

[Polnareff]

I wonder exactly how many Pokes are catchable between the two games out of the 700 and something that exist now. Because I can foresee some terribly pissed-off players if you somehow can't get them all, or at least the vast majority of them, now. Especially since you can't do what you could do in the previous generation, and that is use the old games to transfer Pokemon over. Does this mean that maybe Nintendo/Game Freak will implement DLC, even though they claimed they wouldn't, or will there be a bunch of those asinine "events" to get the remaining ones? Or better yet, a Pokemon Z. But the last option would still mean you'd have to wait a while.

[Nicolas]

I wonder exactly how many Pokes are catchable between the two games out of the 700 and something that exist now. Because I can foresee some terribly pissed-off players if you somehow can't get them all, or at least the vast majority of them, now. Especially since you can't do what you could do in the previous generation, and that is use the old games to transfer Pokemon over. Does this mean that maybe Nintendo/Game Freak will implement DLC, even though they claimed they wouldn't, or will there be a bunch of those asinine "events" to get the remaining ones? Or better yet, a Pokemon Z. But the last option would still mean you'd have to wait a while.

They aren't implementing DLC. They've said as much. They're pretty much sticking with events... even going so far as to make some available only with a special code.

Also, there are 454 or so in the Kalos Dex alone. And a decent number opens up in the National Dex thanks to the Friend Safari Zones. Thanks to the Pokemon Bank, you should be able to get nearly all of the pokemon in the series on one game with enough trading, which is significantly easier in this game.

[Skyblade]

I wonder exactly how many Pokes are catchable between the two games out of the 700 and something that exist now. Because I can foresee some terribly pissed-off players if you somehow can't get them all, or at least the vast majority of them, now. Especially since you can't do what you could do in the previous generation, and that is use the old games to transfer Pokemon over. Does this mean that maybe Nintendo/Game Freak will implement DLC, even though they claimed they wouldn't, or will there be a bunch of those asinine "events" to get the remaining ones? Or better yet, a Pokemon Z. But the last option would still mean you'd have to wait a while.

Once the Pokébank is open, the question becomes rather moot, as you can then transfer from past Generations. It's only a matter of losing them permanently, on games 90% of players aren't going to play again anyway. And we're only a month to a month and a half away from that.

Also, Game Freak are complete jerks. Just throwing that out there. I just caught a 31/31/31/31/30/31 Xerneas. Nearly frelling perfect. Odds of getting that (or any other exact spread of three random IVs, for that matter) is 1 in 32,768.

But the thing is Quiet. It took a hit to Speed in order to boost its Special Attack. Any other stat would be great. Attack it's not going to use anyway. Special Defense is negligible (and the 1 IV loss won't matter) thanks to the doubling from Geomancy. Defense would hurt it, giving Scizor's Bullet Punch a chance to OHKO it, even if a small chance. But Speed loss hurts, even with the boost, due to the prevalence of things like Choice Scarf and faster Pokémon (Terrakion).

I'm honestly torn. Do I go ahead and restart again? Can I get even close to that kind of excellent IV spread again?

If only they'd fixed the bloody Nature problem. Made a way to change them, or made Synchronize 100% effective. Damn you, GameFreak. Damn you. The best IV Legendary I'm probably ever going to catch, and you had to screw it over in one of the very few ways that it could actually matter.

[Tasura]

I wonder exactly how many Pokes are catchable between the two games out of the 700 and something that exist now. Because I can foresee some terribly pissed-off players if you somehow can't get them all, or at least the vast majority of them, now. Especially since you can't do what you could do in the previous generation, and that is use the old games to transfer Pokemon over. Does this mean that maybe Nintendo/Game Freak will implement DLC, even though they claimed they wouldn't, or will there be a bunch of those asinine "events" to get the remaining ones? Or better yet, a Pokemon Z. But the last option would still mean you'd have to wait a while.

They aren't implementing DLC. They've said as much. They're pretty much sticking with events... even going so far as to make some available only with a special code.

Also, there are 454 or so in the Kalos Dex alone. And a decent number opens up in the National Dex thanks to the Friend Safari Zones. Thanks to the Pokemon Bank, you should be able to get nearly all of the pokemon in the series on one game with enough trading, which is significantly easier in this game.

There are currently 595 of the 718 Pokemon catchable in X/Y, when the bank goes live on December 27th (Unless they delay it, or heaven forbid move it up) people will be able to transfer everything they have in a Gen 5 game to the bank, and then to their X/Y. And if you have access to all Gen 4 and 5 games, you'll be able to get the handful of normal Pokemon you're missing as well as all Legendaries. The only ones you won't be able to get are the Event Pokemon, and getting those could prove difficult, unless you have a friend who has them and is willing to trade them toy ou for Dex entries, the only way is to search the GTS and hope for the best.

[Pike]

I'm honestly torn. Do I go ahead and restart again? Can I get even close to that kind of excellent IV spread again?

I know you've decided by now but if it was me I'd keep it. Even despite the Nature (which could be worse), you're not gonna see another legendary with those kind of IVs for a looooooooooong time.

[Quindiana Jones]

No point being a perfectionist if you're just gonna settle for second best. ;)

[ShunNakamura]

In this Gen Celebi is banned, along with Keldeo, even though he's part of the Swords of Justice. This is of course, from the list of Battle Maison - Bulbapedia, the community-driven Pokémon encyclopedia (http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Battle_Maison#Banned_Pok.C3.A9mon) This leaves the trios(Birds, Beasts, Golems, Lake Guardians, Forces of Nature), Latias/Latios, Cresselia and the Swords of Justice(minus Keldeo) legal for use in official tournaments.

Celebi is? And yet the Forces of Nature, Terrakion or even the Lats aren't? I almost think Gamefreak just picks names out of hat! *Note - This isn't to say that Celebi is far weaker than the others I mentioned, merely that threat wise Celebi is rather managable, even if not a pushover. I personally would rather deal with Grass/Psychic than a Terrakion or something like Landorous or Thunderous-T.

[Skyblade]

In this Gen Celebi is banned, along with Keldeo, even though he's part of the Swords of Justice. This is of course, from the list of Battle Maison - Bulbapedia, the community-driven Pokémon encyclopedia (http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Battle_Maison#Banned_Pok.C3.A9mon) This leaves the trios(Birds, Beasts, Golems, Lake Guardians, Forces of Nature), Latias/Latios, Cresselia and the Swords of Justice(minus Keldeo) legal for use in official tournaments.

Celebi is? And yet the Forces of Nature, Terrakion or even the Lats aren't? I almost think Gamefreak just picks names out of hat! *Note - This isn't to say that Celebi is far weaker than the others I mentioned, merely that threat wise Celebi is rather managable, even if not a pushover. I personally would rather deal with Grass/Psychic than a Terrakion or something like Landorous or Thunderous-T.

That's not a tournament ban list, it's the Battle Maison ban list. Celebi (and all the 600 BST Legendaries: Mew, Jirachi, Victini, Manaphy, and Shaymin) is banned in every incarnation of this. You can't take them to any version of the Battle Frontier. Don't take that as a tournament ban list.

Hoenn Battle Frontier Ban List (the original Battle Frontier): Mewtwo, Mew, Lugia, Ho-Oh, Celebi, Kyogre, Groudon, Rayquaza, Jirachi, Deoxys.

Sinnoh and Johto Battle Frontier Ban List (From the DS games): Mewtwo, Mew, Lugia, Ho-Oh, Celebi, Kyogre, Groudon,
Rayquaza, Jirachi, Deoxys, Rotom's Forms, Dialga, Palkia, Giratina, Phione, Manaphy, Darkrai, Shaymin, Arceus.

Unova Battle Subway Ban List (the Gen V equivalent): Mewtwo, Mew, Lugia, Ho-Oh, Celebi, Kyogre, Groudon,
Rayquaza, Jirachi, Deoxys, Rotom's Forms, Dialga, Palkia, Giratina, Phione, Manaphy, Darkrai, Shaymin, Arceus, Victini, Reshiram, Zekrom, Kyurem, Keldeo, Meloetta, Genesect.


Spiky Eared Pichu is banned as well, just due to its uniqueness. As are Eggs (including the Manaphy Egg), if anyone were foolish enough to bring one. Soul Dew is also deactivated, to render the Lati@s twins fair (which is the closest to a power ban we get).


Essentially, their ban rules are incredibly easy to follow.

Any one of the main Legendary team is banned. Mewtwo. Ho-oh and Lugia. Kyogre, Groudon, and Rayquaza. Dialga, Palkia, and Giratina. Etcetera. This is what pulls out Kyurem in all of its forms, regardless of its horrible main form.

Secondary Legendary teams are allowed. Articuno, Zapdos, and Moltres. Entei, Raikou, and Suicune. Azelph, Uxie, and Mesprit. Etcetera. This is what lets Terrakion the beast slip in, as he's a part of the Swords of Justice secondary trio.

Event Legendaries are not allowed. Mew. Celebi. Jirachi and Deoxys. Etcetera. This is what cuts out Darkrai and Keldeo, despite each being a member of a secondary team (the Lunar Duo, where Cresselia is allowed, and the Swords of Justice, where Keldeo is allowed).

Version-unique Pokémon, like Rotom's Forms (introduced in Platinum, but not in Diamond/Pearl), Shiny Eared Pichu (in HG/SS, but not D/P/Pt), and any others that they introduce going forward, are also not allowed. The shift in generations brought us a way to access Rotom's Forms in any of the games in the generation, so he is available again.


Nintendo doesn't use power, how hard it is to check/counter, or anything similar for their various in-game elite battle system ban lists. They have a set, standard system based purely on how they set up the Pokémon and their availability, and they follow it to a "T". It is definitely not just "pulling names out of a hat". You just have to realize that it is also not based on strength or fairness. If it was, Truant Durant with Entrainment would have had to be banned this Generation after how much he wrecked the Battle Subway (because the AI opponents almost never switch Pokémon). But he's not.



I still haven't decided on Xerneas, but I'm leaning towards resetting. I put the game down and went back to Rune Factory on my other system just so I wouldn't have to deal with it. While Rune Factory is awesome, if this Xerneas is eating at me so much, keeping it is probably a bad idea. I just wish I could save/trade it somehow without it eating up my only chance to get a Xerneas. If I'd caught this on Y, or a secondary game of X, I would keep it in a heart beat, though I might reset after trading it away. But on my main game... Bleh.

[WildRaubtier]

xerneas is rubbish anyway, just keep the least rubbish thing you have now

YVELTAL 4 LYFE

[Ultima Shadow]

Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaand, I just got myself a 3DS and Pokemon X.

Started playing like half a second ago, so I'll go back to playing now and add the friend code and stuff later. :greenie:

[Del Murder]

I really love how every zone has pretty much all new pokemon to catch. None of this pidgey or ratata in every area bull crap.

[Ultima Shadow]

Friend code: 0662 - 3970 - 8557



Beat first gym, then went and spent like 1 hour experimenting with the 10 second trainer video. :greenie:

[Nicolas]

Friend code: 0662 - 3970 - 8557



Beat first gym, then went and spent like 1 hour experimenting with the 10 second trainer video. :greenie:

I added yah. I'll add you to the list in a few hours.

EDIT: The FSZ List has been updated for all the new couple of people. And, like Tas said earlier in the thread, all you have to do to get the third pokemon is to beat the elite four, don't forget to save, and make sure you're online at the same time as the other people. In some cases, that might mean leaving the system on all day. ;p

[Del Murder]

How do I get my code? I forget.

[Agent Proto]

Check the Friend List in the Home Menu of your 3DS. That's the smiling box icon in the top middle of the touch screen.

[comma]

Friend code: 0662 - 3970 - 8557



Beat first gym, then went and spent like 1 hour experimenting with the 10 second trainer video. :greenie:

Added.

4828-5126-8749

[Skyblade]

Friend code: 0662 - 3970 - 8557



Beat first gym, then went and spent like 1 hour experimenting with the 10 second trainer video. :greenie:

Added, and it seems you already added mine, so I won't bother to reiterate.

I did wind up resetting Xerneas. The speed is just too much of a loss, as awesome as the IVs are. Stupid GameFreak. I finally found one I'm happy enough with, even if it isn't nearly as perfect.

Currently exploring Route 21 and collecting more Pokémon before I go back to get the final badge.

I also need to decide on my final team. Greninja is going to make it, he stays with me through endgame. But I'm not sure who else. I don't think I'll be taking my other starter. As awesome as they are, I'm holding off on working them up to perfection until I can get them from the Friend Safari (which will let me catch them with Hidden Abilities, better stats, and a Luxury Ball). So I'm having to decide who to take.

I love this game's approach to catching Pokémon. The three-part Pokédex is great, as each one is a full region Pokédex on its own. I only wish they had gone farther. While a National Pokédex to keep track of them all is definitely desired, I wish they added in a few more local sections that each tracked another 150, as I really love that smaller breakdown and filling up the Central/Coastal/Mountain Pokédex.

This is also the first game in the series where I feel that "Catch 'em all" has a point. In every other Generation, most of those poor critters just sit in my PC and collect dust. But with the absolutely absurd leveling rate for the whole team thanks to Exp. Share, I wind up switching up my team more than I ever had. I try new Pokémon and new combinations, I look at new moves, and I play with teams I would normally never bother with.

Sky Battles, oddly enough, also help with this. Having to pull in a Flyer or Levitator that I haven't used a ton makes those some of the toughest Trainer Battles in the game, as my party rarely has a consistent Sky Battler who can just power through everything.

The difficulty may still be too easy, or require to much player management in order to make it challenging (why did they not give us Challenge Mode?!), but the variety and the fun that comes from it makes up for that, in my opinion.

Final Team I'm planning so far:

Greninja
Absol
Noivern
Goodra
Lucario
Xerneas (not going to use it, but I want to enter it into the Hall of Fame)

I'm still debating an Espeon though. I can't get a perfect Espeon until I can get access to a Safari Friend Zone Eevee, but Espeon is still my favorite Pokémon in the game, and I can breed it to near perfect stats thanks to my Lucario. Hmm...

[Ultima Shadow]

Shortly after beating the second gym, I catch a random Honedge with 2 x 31 stats.

About 4 hours later, I have a Honedge with 31 HP, 29-31 Attack, 30-31 Defense and 31 SpDef. Speed and SpAttack were lacking, but it doesn't need those stats anyway.

...oh, right, and... Adamant nature too. I love how breeding works now. And my luck. :cool:

[Skyblade]

Shortly after beating the second gym, I catch a random Honedge with 2 x 31 stats.

About 4 hours later, I have a Honedge with 31 HP, 29-31 Attack, 30-31 Defense and 31 SpDef. Speed and SpAttack were lacking, but it doesn't need those stats anyway.

...oh, right, and... Adamant nature too. I love how breeding works now. And my luck. :cool:

Currently, I have a Modest Lucario with 31/31/31/31/27/31.

I've also currently got a 31/x/31/31/31/31 Modest Chimecho that I'm breeding with my female Ralts in order to pick up the beast that will be my Gardevoir.

The Undiscovered Egg Group Glitch makes breeding far easier than even the Destiny Knot trick alone does. Any Baby Pokémon you catch will have three stats at 31. This means that Riolu, Chingling, Smoochum, Mime Jr., Budew, and Azurill, and Togepi (who is only available from Friend Safari) will already have at least three max stats. These then evolve into Lucario, Chimecho, Jynx, Mr. Mime, Roselia, Marill, and Togetic.

Which is awesome, because their evolved forms are members of different Egg Groups than their baby forms (the Undiscovered Group can't breed). So I'll summarize which Egg Groups and notable Pokémon are available from which baby (I'm leaving out a couple, notably Mr. Mime and Jynx, since they're members of groups that are already fully covered by others).



A male Lucario covers the Field and Human-Like Egg Groups, allowing you to breed across stats for (among many others) Eevee, Cyndaquil, Torchic, Electrike, Houndour, Absol, Tepig, Oshawott, Zorua, Chespin, Fennekin, Abra, Meditite, Chimchar, Mawile, Mareep, Piplup, Snivy, Farfetch'd, and Ekans (and all of their evolutions). All those great Pokémon, starters, or Pokémon with Mega-Evolutions, just from Lucario. Is there any surprise that I bred him up to be awesome first?

Chimecho becomes the Amorphous Egg Group, which lets its stats spread to Pokémon like Gastly, Ralts, Wobuffet, Litwick, and Solosis. Nowhere near as diverse, but still completely worth it for those Gengar, Gardevoirs, and Gallades.

Roselia is a member of the Fairy and Grass Egg Groups, which lets it breed with such Pokémon as Bulbasaur, Paras, Chikorita, Turtwig, Snover, Ferroseed, and Chansey.

Marill is Water 1 and Fairy, giving it breeding compatibility with Froakie, Squirtle, Dratini, Totodile, Mudkip, Corphish, and Inkay.

Togetic covers the Flying Egg Group, and is breedable with Aerodactyl, Fletchling, and Noibat.

Unfortunately, these are the only Egg Groups directly covered by the evolved Babies. However, since most Egg Groups have members who share other Egg Groups, with cross-breeding, you can spread the stats to any of them.

Ferroseed can spread stats to the Mineral Egg Group, in addition to the Grass Group it shares with Roselia, letting you spread stats to Honedge (some other good Pokémon in here, but they are genderless, and require a Ditto).

Bulbasaur can spread stats to the Monster Group in addition to the Grass Group, covering Charmander, Larvitar, Cubone, Gible, Aron, Amaura, and Tyrunt.

Paras covers the Bug Egg Group, allowing you to spread stats to Scyther, Pineco, Heracross, Trapinch, Scolipede, and Larvesta.

Inkay can spread stats from Water 1 to Water 2, though this doesn't really bring in any really good Pokémon, unfortunately.

Corphish spreads from Water 1 to Water 3. Still not many great Pokémon there, though. Shellder, Lileep, and Anorith are probably the best.

Ekans can spread stats from the Field Egg Group to the Dragon Egg Group, giving you access to Goomy, Bagon, and Deino. Charmander can also serve this role if you've bred up a good one from Bulbasaur.

Finally, if you don't have access to Togepi, you can spread stats to the Flying Egg Group by breeding up an awesome male Farfetch'd with your Lucario.



Also, it might be worth noting that the Breeding RNG is now exploitable, and can be used to guarantee which stats will be inherited by the child Pokémon, and from which parents.

The game essentially has a seed list that determines which parent passes on which stat when inheriting 5 stats with the Destiny Knot. This list is saved, regardless of the parents, and can be manipulated for your ease of breeding.



Ok, to start with, you'll need two parents which you know the IVs of. Use Psypoke's (http://www.psypokes.com/dex/iv.php) or Metalkid's (http://www.metalkid.info/Pokemon/Calculators/IV.aspx) IV calculators to figure out the IVs of your parents. Make sure that they have different IVs for each stat (for example, you don't want both parents to have 31 in Attack). In fact, the bigger the differences, the better, but the only critical part is that they're different.

Deposit your chosen parents into the Day Care (with the Destiny Knot). Run about and wait until an Egg is produced. When speaking to the guy who gives you the Egg, say that You Do Not Want It. As soon as you reject the egg, save your game.

Now, generate a new Egg, and this time, pick it up and hatch it. Determine its IVs: Use the same IV calculators, and if you need to level it up some, Exp. Share and the Battle Chateau's Audinos are easy ways to do that (and, so you can track, KOing one Audino gives 2 HP EVs). Once you know that, compare its IVs to those of its parents.

This will tell you which stat the child inherited from which parent. Once you've determined which stat came from which parent, and which of the 6 stats was not inherited, you're set and don't need that baby anymore, so go ahead and reload the game.

The inheritance order will be saved, even if you change the parents. So swap out to two parents who you know have the correct IVs. For example, if the child you checked before got Attack, Defense, and Speed from the father, while getting HP and Special Defense from the mother, then switch out for a male Pokémon with 31 in Attack, Defense, and Speed, and a compatible female Pokémon with 31 in HP and Special Defense. Congratulations, the next Egg they produce will have 31/31/31/x/31/31, perfect stats for any physical attack based Pokémon, whether a sweeper or a wall, and a great Pokémon to set up breeding with any other partner in the Egg Group.


EDIT: I was heading back to the Pokémon Village to get Psychic now that I've picked up Waterfall. While going through the Winding Woods, I was ambushed by a female Zoroark. Without my False Swiper, pretty much any Pokémon, including my HM Slaves, would probably OHKO it. But, since I wasn't going to give up on that lovely little critter, I had to catch it anyway. Fortunately, about two minutes prior, I had maxed my Luxury Ball count up to 999 (catching an uninjured Pokémon rarely takes more than 50). So I settle in for the long hall, and chuck one out.

Wobble wobble wobble...click! Not even a critical capture, but I have a lovely new Zoroark that I can breed with (after the two hours I spent hunting one down yesterday, all for a random one to stumble across me). Zoroark is also a Field Egg Group member that my Lucario can breed with.

[Tasura]

Thanks to Nico catching his Articuno (And reminding me that Soutland existed) I am finally done Y until the bank goes live.

[Del Murder]

My friend code is: 0576-4435-9881. Everyone please add me!

[Skyblade]

My friend code is: 0576-4435-9881. Everyone please add me!

Added you. My codes:
1547-6378-0895
0490-5832-0785

[Endless]

Friend code: 0662 - 3970 - 8557

Added you and Del Mordor.

[Jinx]

I'm offended by the title change of this thread.

[Del Murder]

Anyone who wants to trade Y version exclusives with those from X or evolutions that require a trade, let me know.

[Bunny]

My friend code is: 0576-4435-9881. Everyone please add me!

Added you. Code:
4527 - 8589 - 9901



My friend code is: 0576-4435-9881. Everyone please add me!

Added you. My codes:
1547-6378-0895
0490-5832-0785

For some reason, I am still not seeing that we are friends. I've checked the codes a few times to no success. Not sure what the issues are there.

I also added Ultima Shadow.\

Has anyone been able to catch a 4+ IV Ditto in the Friend Safari? I've caught a few 3s and a bunch of 2s. I heard that you can get 4+, but haven't been lucky enough myself.

This is the first game that I've decided to breed "perfect" Pokemon. So far, I've got a Greninja (w/ Protean) and an Eevee that will eventually be turned into a Leafeon (being my favorite Pokemon). Working on another Eevee that will turn into a Sylveon, though I'm not sure if this one will make it into my first party.

[Pike]

Still working on the (currently obtainable) Pokédex by way of trading and leveling. I haven't been on as much due to NaNoWriMo but it is happening, slowly but surely!

(Yes I'm still been playing this on a daily basis)

[Skyblade]

Anyone who wants to trade Y version exclusives with those from X or evolutions that require a trade, let me know.

Just to clarify, do you have X or Y? If you have Y, I'll gladly trade you some Pokémon X exclusives (even though I have Y, I'm a bit too lazy to get them while I'm breeding). The only thing is, I only want females that are caught with Luxury Balls (I'm OCD, sorry). I'll happily trade you over some Luxury Balls if you need some (I have 995 of them right now). I have a bunch of the Pokémon X exclusives, or other useful Pokémon like both sets of starters.

Bunny, I missed your code somehow (I blame the Black Font when I use the Old Skool format). Just friended you on my main system, I'll get the other one in a few minutes.

[Del Murder]

Where do you get luxury balls?

[Bunny]

The Poke Ball specialist in Lumiose City sells them, along with most other types of Poke ball.

[Skyblade]

The Poke Ball specialist in Lumiose City sells them, along with most other types of Poke ball.

It also sells Premiere Balls by themselves, which is a first for the series. But there is another way to get Luxury Balls. You can get 5 of them on your first trip into Lumiose City. When you're visiting the Professor to get your second starter, stop on the Second Floor. There's a female scientist who gives you five of them. Since you can't then get them again until your journey takes you back around to Lumiose, I recommend using them carefully, and making sure each gets a catch (resetting if need be). Or just trading with me. :D

That reminds me, I need to remember to go back and catch a female Snorlax with one at some point. I should have thought of it during my first trip, but didn't. :(

Oh, by the way, am I the only one who didn't know about the Destructable Terrain In-Battles to Get Items?! (http://www.serebii.net/xy/wilditems.shtml) It's a bit obscure, especially with how specific the required moves are, but that explains all the berries I couldn't find.

[Nicolas]

Oh, by the way, am I the only one who didn't know about the Destructable Terrain In-Battles to Get Items?! (http://www.serebii.net/xy/wilditems.shtml) It's a bit obscure, especially with how specific the required moves are, but that explains all the berries I couldn't find.

You are not. I JUST found out about it yesterday or the day before. I think Tasura is in the same situation because he had the same reaction I did when I told him about it. It's a really interesting way to do things!

[Skyblade]

Oh, by the way, am I the only one who didn't know about the Destructable Terrain In-Battles to Get Items?! (http://www.serebii.net/xy/wilditems.shtml) It's a bit obscure, especially with how specific the required moves are, but that explains all the berries I couldn't find.

You are not. I JUST found out about it yesterday or the day before. I think Tasura is in the same situation because he had the same reaction I did when I told him about it. It's a really interesting way to do things!

I like the concept, but I hate the implementation. First, there are no indications in game telling you how this works or what the moves to use are. Second, the moves are way, way too specific. I mean, there are as many moves as there are Pokémon, essentially. Expecting people to not only pick up on the system, but to have the right move for it, is kind of ridiculous. Even if you figured that the odd terrain (which I had noticed before, at least twice with the Berry Trees) was able to be affected, how are you supposed to figure out the moves? I mean, I never use Zubat as part of my main team, so I never have Air Cutter. Heck, even if they made it work with Cut, who actually uses Cut in combat (Tackle is just as strong, and more accurate)?

Thank goodness for the internet. Someone stumbling upon this and sharing it is pretty much the only way this would come out. Even then it took my quite a bit of hunting around Serebii to find out where it was, and that was all because I was looking for the rest of the berries. I suppose in the strategy guide might have it. Maybe they finally figured they could get people to buy it with the information on how to get the otherwise-unobtainable items in it?

They really need to upgrade Cut. Personally, I'd give it the stats of Slash. There's just no reason for it to be so bad for so long. I know you get it early and tons of Pokémon can learn it, but make it halfway decent for once, GameFreak.

[SirPrizes]

I don't know what it is, but this game hasn't really grabbed me like I was hoping it would. I haven't really been enthralled with a Pokemon game since Gen 2. I got X shortly after launch, put about 20 hours into it, put it down about two weeks ago, and haven't gone back. I just can't get into the right frame of mind for muh pogeymanz. It's like that with video games in general, lately. It's kind of distressing.

I was mostly enjoying what I played though, although rollerblades seem kind of unnecessary after you get the bike and not being able to walk with the circle pad is kind of annoying. Also, the camera angles in Lumiose are pretty horrid. Still having a lot more fun than the last Pokemon I played though (Diamond).

[Skyblade]

I don't know what it is, but this game hasn't really grabbed me like I was hoping it would. I haven't really been enthralled with a Pokemon game since Gen 2. I got X shortly after launch, put about 20 hours into it, put it down about two weeks ago, and haven't gone back. I just can't get into the right frame of mind for muh pogeymanz. It's like that with video games in general, lately. It's kind of distressing.

I was mostly enjoying what I played though, although rollerblades seem kind of unnecessary after you get the bike and not being able to walk with the circle pad is kind of annoying. Also, the camera angles in Lumiose are pretty horrid. Still having a lot more fun than the last Pokemon I played though (Diamond).

Pull out the Dowsing Machine and you'll walk with the Circle Pad again.

The camera angles in Lumiose are really bad, and it takes a while to get used to how to adjust them and the way you're facing properly.

[WildRaubtier]

Got around to adding everyone in this list (https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AnUkyryjWsaZdHZWNEZCa2VaUjBka3BTYnJLNXZ0WVE&usp=sharing#gid=0).

[Endless]

Likewise, I have everyone added. Now if LocoColt04, Jinx and Ultima could reciprocate >.>
Also Pike, but she hates me I guess.

[Pike]

Likewise, I have everyone added. Now if LocoColt04, Jinx and Ultima could reciprocate >.>
Also Pike, but she hates me I guess.

Quitcher bitchin' I put my friend code in the #pokemon chatroom. Your fault if you missed it :stare:

I don't have much time to play this month due to writing so I'm not on very often right now though.

[Ultima Shadow]

Anyone who wants to trade Y version exclusives with those from X or evolutions that require a trade, let me know.
If you happen to have Puppitar, I'd be interested in one.


And in just a little while, I might want some back and forth switches for evolutions too.:greenie:


In other news, I just beat the elite 4 and champion and stuff. I got overleveled by accident, just like everyone else, and it wasn't really a challenge. =(

[Del Murder]

I do have pupitar!

[Skyblade]

Currently working on breeding my Noibat. Had to transfer stats over via Lucario/Farfetch'd combination, which took a while (I wish I had the Oval Charm!). Hopefully though, I'll have some really high IV spinoffs available soon, if anyone wants one. The little guy is awesome. He's essentially a Crobat which specializes in Special Attacks, hitting hard and fast. One of his best features, though, is the awesome move called Boomblast. Normal Type, 140 Power, 10 PP, and sound based. While Soundproof will block it, not a lot else does. Being sound-based, it automatically bypasses Substitutes and Reflect/Light Screen. He can also learn Flamethrower to deal with Steels and Draco Meteor to wreck anything that resists you (Dragon Pulse isn't really worth it since Boomblast is more powerful and has nearly identical coverage). There's also some free coverage, like Air Slash or Focus Blast. He's intended to hit hard, hit fast, and look awesome doing it.

Again, happy to get any female Y-exclusives caught in a Luxury Ball, and happy to provide the Luxury Balls if needed. Spritzee, Electrike, Heracross, Larvitar, and whichever others I'm forgetting.

EDIT: Other Y exclusives: Skrelp/Dragalgae (you can catch either, and with a Super Rod in the correct place, Dragalgae isn't even that rare, or at least Clawitzer wasn't), Shellder, Purrloin, Throh, Spritzee.

For trade I'll have my Noibats and Riolu, but I also have the X exclusives: Staryu, Pinsir, Swirlix, Sawk, Clauncher/Clawitzer, Houndour, Mightyena, and Lairon (which, along with Pinsir, are the ones I currently already have a couple of). I'll also have some high IV Ralts and Farfetch'd, if anyone wants any.

[drotato]

Oh, yay~! More people who are just as obsessed with Pokemon right now as me. xD

If anyone wants to battle or trade, add my friend code~! (:
4656-7116-1845

[Endless]

Added you, Nikki.

Skyblade, I'll see about catching you a luxury Throh, and I could use a high IV (HP/Sp.A/SPD at least) male ralts if you have that around (nature doesn't matter, got the one I want female and everstone).

Edit: caught one (luxury ball ofc ;)).

[Skyblade]

Added you, Nikki.

Skyblade, I'll see about catching you a luxury Throh, and I could use a high IV (HP/Sp.A/SPD at least) male ralts if you have that around (nature doesn't matter, got the one I want female and everstone).

Edit: caught one (luxury ball ofc ;)).

Here you go:

Ralts - #280 (Modest) Male (♂) Trace: 31 / 21 / 0, 2 / 31 / 31 / 31
Hidden Power: Dragon

Defense sucks (either zero or two, which I know because it has HP Dragon, but I don't know which it is), and Attack is only halfway decent, but the rest is perfect. Are there any TMs you want it to learn? Psyshock, Thunderbolt, Psychic, Shadow Ball, Echoed Voice (for Pixilate if you go Mega-Gardevoir), Charge Beam, Thunder Wave, Grass Knot, and Dazzling Gleam are the only worthwhile ones I can think to put on it, but I have every TM you can get before endgame, so just let me know.

Oh, and it's only level 1.


Also, I added Nikki. Don't forget to add us back, or it won't work! My code: 1547-6378-0895

[Endless]

With a little work (destiny knot and enough tries), I ought to be able to get better def from a ditto (I have one with 22-23 def) while keeping the other five stats. TM-wise, I was thinking I'd give it:
Psychic (possibly replaced by Moonblast at 85), Shadow ball, Reflect, Thunderbolt. Echoed voice takes three turns to outclass moonblast in total damage done, so I'm not sure I'd use it. At max friendship, return's probably even better than moonblast. All of these I already have the TMs for except Shadow Ball which I'll either get tonight or this weekend.

Try to catch me on IRC so we can make the trade, in the #pokemon room ; I'll be around for the next 4 hours and most of the weekend.

[Skyblade]

With a little work (destiny knot and enough tries), I ought to be able to get better def from a ditto (I have one with 22-23 def) while keeping the other five stats. TM-wise, I was thinking I'd give it:
Psychic (possibly replaced by Moonblast at 85), Shadow ball, Reflect, Thunderbolt. Echoed voice takes three turns to outclass moonblast in total damage done, so I'm not sure I'd use it. At max friendship, return's probably even better than moonblast. All of these I already have the TMs for except Shadow Ball which I'll either get tonight or this weekend.

Try to catch me on IRC so we can make the trade, in the #pokemon room ; I'll be around for the next 4 hours and most of the weekend.

A couple slight misunderstandings or unclear bits that I'd like to fix up.

First, if you're passing off the 5 high stats on this Ralts, the Defense stat will be randomized on the baby, so you have extremely high odds of picking up a better (even if not great) Defense stat that way.

Second, Return is, unfortunately, still physical, so nowhere near ideal.

Third, Pixelate doesn't just covert a Normal move to Fairy. It coverts it to Fairy and adds an extra 30% damage, on top of STAB (the game never tells you this, but it has been confirmed through calculations and usage). This is true of all the Abilities that convert Normal to a different type, from Pixelate, to Aerilate (Mega-Pinsir's Ability) to Refrigerate (Amaura's Ability). So, essentially, a Pixelated Echoed Voice has a base power of 52, not 40. And it then receives STAB on top of that.

So at its second use, a Pixelated Echoed Voice has a BP of 104 plus STAB, which is more than Moonblast (though without the Special Attack reduction on the target). And if you can get in any additional uses, its power builds up a ton. Not necessarily the most useful, but still quite potent.

It's also worth pointing out that in Black 2 and White 2, Gardevoir could learn Hyper Voice from a move tutor. Which, after the Pixelate boost, is doing 117 Base Power + STAB, which is also pretty awesome. No real move tutors in this generation, unfortunately, but Pokémon Z will have them if the pattern of releasing them in the second games is consistent going forward.

And, finally, you don't need to wait to get Moonblast. As soon as you evolve to Gardevoir, you can pick it up via a Heart Scale.



The damage boost from the type-converting abilities is what really lets Mega-Pinsir shine, as it makes Quick Attack a 52 BP STAB Flying Priority move, and Return becomes a 132 BP STAB Flying move. Coming from Mega-Pinsir's absolutely enormous attack, that is quite deadly.

[Endless]

A couple slight misunderstandings or unclear bits that I'd like to fix up.

First, if you're passing off the 5 high stats on this Ralts, the Defense stat will be randomized on the baby, so you have extremely high odds of picking up a better (even if not great) Defense stat that way.


Even faster then, it'll be your ralts with destiny knot and mine (with everstone unless both parents having the same nature guarantee that nature's passed down) and breeding enough of them to get high def and trace.


Second, Return is, unfortunately, still physical, so nowhere near ideal.

Ah, forgot to check if it was spe or phy.


Third, Pixelate doesn't just covert a Normal move to Fairy. It coverts it to Fairy and adds an extra 30% damage, on top of STAB (the game never tells you this, but it has been confirmed through calculations and usage). This is true of all the Abilities that convert Normal to a different type, from Pixelate, to Aerilate (Mega-Pinsir's Ability) to Refrigerate (Amaura's Ability). So, essentially, a Pixelated Echoed Voice has a base power of 52, not 40. And it then receives STAB on top of that.

So at its second use, a Pixelated Echoed Voice has a BP of 104 plus STAB, which is more than Moonblast (though without the Special Attack reduction on the target). And if you can get in any additional uses, its power builds up a ton. Not necessarily the most useful, but still quite potent.

I know it also boosts it, but in total damage done :
Turn 1: 54 echoed, 95 moonblast
Turn 2: 162 (108+54) echoed, 190 (95+95) moonblast
Turn 3: 324 echoed, 285 moonblast

So it all depends on whether that mega-gardevoir stays or is switched out or risks dying. I could always get two and make one of each xD


It's also worth pointing out that in Black 2 and White 2, Gardevoir could learn Hyper Voice from a move tutor. Which, after the Pixelate boost, is doing 117 Base Power + STAB, which is also pretty awesome. No real move tutors in this generation, unfortunately, but Pokémon Z will have them if the pattern of releasing them in the second games is consistent going forward.



The damage boost from the type-converting abilities is what really lets Mega-Pinsir shine, as it makes Quick Attack a 52 BP STAB Flying Priority move. No Gale Wings Brave Bird, but coming from Mega-Pinsir's absolutely enormous attack, still quite deadly.

[Del Murder]

I wish I had the time to breed an elite pokemon team. Sounds fun. What are the secrets to a great squad?

[Nicolas]

Oh, yay~! More people who are just as obsessed with Pokemon right now as me. xD

If anyone wants to battle or trade, add my friend code~! (:
4656-7116-1845

Added you, Nikki. If you want, you can add people from this list here (http://goo.gl/KM5rY3). Most of our Friend Codes are in there. ;o

[drotato]

Oooooh neat~! Thanks, Nicolas. You guys can go ahead and add me to the friend Safari if you want to. xD

[drotato]

I pretty much added everyone, so there you go. xD

EDIT: Also, Proto is really good at battling, and he has a ton of pokemon. :3

[Skyblade]

I wish I had the time to breed an elite pokemon team. Sounds fun. What are the secrets to a great squad?

Sorry for the late reply, but this is a very, very complicated question, and I did not want to rush an answer.

First, it depends on what you want to get out of it. What do you plan to use it for? Are you looking for a tournament competitive team? A team to take on the Battle Maison? A team to slaughter EoFFers in WiFi duels?

Even within one of those, there are a great deal of questions that you have to ask yourself. If you're going for a ranked team, what system will you use? The official Nintendo Tournaments use Double Battles as their basic battle format. But the most commonly accepted community system is, I believe, the Smogon system.


-General Competition Overview-

At its heart, I still believe that what makes a great team is how well you respond to them. A team is centered around its Trainer. Different Pokémon may have different stats and movesets, but the strength of a team is how well assembled it is, and how well the Trainer can use them.

I also personally loathe most of the competitive systems, due to how insanely min/maxed they have become, and how incredibly hyper-offensive and mathematical it can be (on top of my general hatred for PvP activities). While some people may enjoy calculating out exactly how to balance Xerneas's Speed and Defense EVs to ensure that it can outspeed any threats and have just enough bulk to survive Scizor's Bullet Punch (one of the only threats to Xerneas after Geomancy, as it's a Priority Steel type move that gets a Technician boost), but that is taking things too far for me.

In a casual battling circumstance, you don't usually have to get that obsessive or detailed about it. I recommend watching TamashiiHiroka's Competitive Battling For Beginners (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tWA4DOcG4e8) video (in fact, she has a number of really fun videos about Pokémon in general, if you want some more esoteric information like her studies of the ROM data). It's a pretty good example of what you're looking for on a basic level. But if you don't want to watch, or want a different viewpoint, I'll go over my own thoughts as well.

Building a team is about team synergy and coordination. In the main game, it's perfectly ok to not have a team. Especially if you're playing with the default "Shift" battle system, enabling you to switch out your Pokémon each time your opponent switches in a new one for a fainted Pokémon, teamwork isn't really a feature. You essentially just have a lineup of strong, powerful Pokémon, each operating its own niche and fighting based on its own strengths.

Competitive battling, by any set of rules that I know of, sticks to the "Set" system. If you make an opponent faint, you do not get to switch out the victor. Your opponent gets to throw out whatever Pokémon they think will do best against the one you have out currently, and if you want to change it, you need to take a turn to do so.

It's also important to remember that you'll be battling on an even playing field with your opponent. You won't be a much higher level than they are (there are some in-game competitive systems that automatically level the Pokémon fighting to level 50, just to ensure fairness), and they will probably have just as much EV training as you do.

Thus, the competitive field truly becomes a game of teamwork. No Pokémon is perfect. Each one has its weaknesses, it's checks and counters (though some, especially the "Ubers", have them few and far between). Knowing how to support your team is important.

As in any RPG, there are several different roles each Pokémon can take. Anyone who's played an MMO knows about the terms "tank", "healer", and "DPS", the trinity of play styles that forms the basis of most systems. Pokémon has all of these and more, and I'm going to go over a few for you.


Sweeper: A Sweeper is an offensive Pokémon designed to "sweep" the opposing team, knocking out Pokémon one after the other. Usually designed to operate with stat boosts, so as to maximize KO potential and reduce opponent opportunities to strike back.

Wall/Tank: A Wall is a Pokémon designed to absorb attacks, through stats, typing, and moves. It comes in varieties, physical, special, or mixed, depending on what it is designed to block. A Tank is essentially a Wall that has the offensive stats to still pose a threat (Walls can pose threats on their own, but they tend to do so through means like Poison or Burns rather than outright attacks).

Annoyer (or Prankster, as I call them): An Annoyer is designed to mess with strategies. They tend to carry moves like Taunt, Encore, Thunder Wave, etcetera. Built to be an annoying hassle to deal with, and break up Pokémon trying to set up to sweep, inflict status ailments, and ruin team strategies, rather than be an outright threat.

Cleric (I call them Healers): A Pokémon designed to help heal or restore your own Pokémon. Moves like Wish, Heal Bell, and Aromatherapy are pretty standard on these guys. They're Pokémon you can usually count on to help keep your party in decent condition.

Hazard Setter: Any Pokémon designed to set up entry hazards. These include Spikes, Toxic Spikes, Sticky Web, and Stealth Rock (which I personally think is massively overpowered and too important to the battle system, and needed its power cut in half).

Phazer: A Phazer is a Pokémon designed to remove opponent's positive status buffs by getting the Pokémon off the field. Moves like Dragon Tail, Whirlwind, and Roar do this. Some minor status ailments, like Leech Seed and Perish Song, can be removed by switching out, and can entice opponents to switch, and lose their buffs. This can also be done to compound damage done by entry hazards.

Weather Setter: A Weather Setter is a Pokémon that is used to set up Weather effects. This can be a Pokémon with an Ability like Drought, or a Pokémon which carries the individual moves, like Rain Dance.

Spinner: A Spinner is a Pokémon who can use moves like Rapid Spin or Defog to remove hazards, clearing the way for the rest of your team to switch freely.

Baton Passer: A Pokémon designed to set up buffs and then use Baton Pass to transfer them to another Pokémon. This lets you set up with behind the safety of moves like Substitute or Spore, without sacrificing the movepool of your other Pokémon.

There are probably tons more, but those are some of the highlight roles. Please note, however, that plenty of Pokémon can serve multiple roles. You can easily have an Annoyer that can set up Hazards, or a Wall that can spin or set up Weather. Nor is it necessary to have every role on your team. What you choose to go with will depend on what play style you choose, and what Pokémon you want to take with you.



-The Core of the Team-

Many teams (though definitely not all of them) are built around a "Core". This is usually a Pokémon, but it can also be a move or strategy. Essentially, it's the focus of your team, and how it is built (TamashiiHiroka chose a Drizzle Politoed, a very common choice in Gen V as a Rain Team Core).

If you have a favorite Pokémon, one you really want to battle with or try, then that's a great Core for a team. Take a moment and look at it. Think about its abilities, typing, stat distribution, and available moves. Consider how you want to use this Pokémon, as well as how it tends to do in its role.

Then, work outwards and decide what Pokémon would best supplement your core. If you chose to focus a team around Mega-Charizard Y, adding in a Pokémon with, say, Dry Skin would not be an ideal move, as you would take damage from the Sun that Drought sets up. You'd be better off choosing Pokémon who can use the sun to their own benefit.

You'll also probably want to cover Charizard's weaknesses, such as a Spinner to remove the deadly Stealth Rocks, or a Ground Type to take out Electric and Rock threats (Charizard's Solarbeam would wreck Water threats fairly well on its own).



This is just a basic overview, but it gets you into the idea of how to set up a team. The important thing to remember is that there really is no right answer. Even in the ultimate precision of the truly competitive systems, no team is invulnerable. Choose what you want, think about how it works together, and practice with it.

If you want any more specific advice, then share your plans and thoughts for where you want to go, what sort of competition or events you are interested in, and what Pokémon you enjoy using. And if you want any more specific advice on breeding or setting up an individual Pokémon, just let us know.

[WildRaubtier]

So, I beat the elite 4.

I went to Endless's friend safari to hunt dittos for breeding.

I caught three.

One of them has 4 perfect IVs.

It also has an adamant nature due to synchronise.

Ladies.

[Skyblade]

Getting final preparation for the Elite 4 done.

My Party:

Greninja, Level 100, Splash Plate (thinking about Amulet Coin)
Gardevoir, Level 91, Mind Plate
Lucario, Level 100, Fist Plate (thinking about Lucarionite)
Noivern, Level 88, Silk Scarf (WHY is there no Normal Plate?! I love Plates. :()
Gengar, Level 55, Lucky Egg (going to switch to Spooky Plate or Gengarite at Level 100)
Xerneas, Level 100, Pixie Plate

Just have to finalize my outfit for the Hall of Fame save, and think about whether it's worth getting my entire party up to 100, just for the sake of consistency (OCD kicking in again). Putting the Battle Chateau right next to the Day Care is great for leveling up while breeding.



Also, thinking about making a post about breeding in general, and how to best train a good team member, what to look for in EV spreads, and how to handle move sets and Egg Moves. If anyone is interested, it might help guide you to getting the most out of your Pokémon, rather than just copy/pasting from Smogon or Serebii, so if you think it's a good idea, let me know.

[drotato]

Getting final preparation for the Elite 4 done.

My Party:

Greninja, Level 100, Splash Plate (thinking about Amulet Coin)
Gardevoir, Level 91, Mind Plate
Lucario, Level 100, Fist Plate (thinking about Lucarionite)
Noivern, Level 88, Silk Scarf (WHY is there no Normal Plate?! I love Plates. :()
Gengar, Level 55, Lucky Egg (going to switch to Spooky Plate or Gengarite at Level 100)
Xerneas, Level 100, Pixie Plate

Just have to finalize my outfit for the Hall of Fame save, and think about whether it's worth getting my entire party up to 100, just for the sake of consistency (OCD kicking in again). Putting the Battle Chateau right next to the Day Care is great for leveling up while breeding.



Also, thinking about making a post about breeding in general, and how to best train a good team member, what to look for in EV spreads, and how to handle move sets and Egg Moves. If anyone is interested, it might help guide you to getting the most out of your Pokémon, rather than just copy/pasting from Smogon or Serebii, so if you think it's a good idea, let me know.
AHHH SUCH A GOOD PARTY. PLEASE TELL ME WHERE TO FIND THE PIXIE PLATE. I looked everywhere in my guide and I dunno if it's in there. ; ~;

[Tasura]

The Pixie Plate is in the Pokemon Village.

[Skyblade]

The Pixie Plate is in the Pokemon Village.

Yep. You need to go to the far west side, then Surf across the water.

[Del Murder]

Got a Charmander through WT last night! I felt bad because I gave them a lousy Stunfisk. I already have a Charmander so I put it up on the GTS to try to get a Bulbasaur.

[Agent Proto]

Lately, I've been breeding Claunchers hoping for a Shiny. So far, I've hatched over 50 eggs and have no shiny. I've been sending away my Claunchers via WT, and I've had some nice trades including a Pikachu with Pokerus!