Was this a glitch?

[Jarvio]

I was fighting an armadodo in the tomb of the unknown king. The armadodo cast "earthquake" on me. But I did not see any hp taken from me.

Did the attack just miss? But if it missed, shouldn't it have said 'miss'? I'm pretty sure it just said nothing, no hp taken, no 'miss' etc, just blank...

[Jarvio]

Desperate for an answer if anyone has one.

As I hate glitches because it makes me feel like I've not done the game properly.

[Lone Wolf Leonhart]

Did you activate float? If so, I think earthquake doesn't effect you. Though I can't remember if it still says miss or not.

What were you playing it on?

I'm not sure if it's a glitch or not, but I've had a glitch before. I was playing the PS1 version of the game and a draw point I used a million times in Winhil just didn't exist anymore. Wasn't even faded because it was used, the spot was empty. But it showed up again in later playthroughs.

I was going to say if you're playing on computer maybe there was a brief lapse in FPS or something.

[Jarvio]

Did you activate float? If so, I think earthquake doesn't effect you. Though I can't remember if it still says miss or not.

What were you playing it on?

I'm not sure if it's a glitch or not, but I've had a glitch before. I was playing the PS1 version of the game and a draw point I used a million times in Winhil just didn't exist anymore. Wasn't even faded because it was used, the spot was empty. But it showed up again in later playthroughs.

I was going to say if you're playing on computer maybe there was a brief lapse in FPS or something.

Thanks for the reply.

Nope I didn't use float. Was just normal, and all 3 characters weren't effected.

Playing on PS3, from the FFVIII PS1 version download from the online shop.

[Lone Wolf Leonhart]

Hmm. I'm not sure.

All I would say is try to keep getting in fights with armadodo. If nothing seems to be wrong in the future I'd just consider it a fluke. At least it's not a game breaking glitch like a missing quest.

[FFNut]

It also could be the equipment you were wearing. It could just have no effect due to what you had on.

[Jarvio]

It also could be the equipment you were wearing. It could just have no effect due to what you had on.

Well when I fought the same enemy shortly after, with exactly the same magic junctioned, I received damage from the move.

I'm gonna test it with float (so it misses) and then see what happens.

[Jarvio]

It also could be the equipment you were wearing. It could just have no effect due to what you had on.

Well when I fought the same enemy shortly after, with exactly the same magic junctioned, I received damage from the move.

I'm gonna test it with float (so it misses) and then see what happens.

I tried out the above, and it did indeed say 'Miss'.

So that's that answered.

So it was either:
a) a glitch, or
b) it did take energy off but I just didn't see/notice

I'm pissed off now. Because it feels like I've cheated. Argh. Now I wanna delete my file but I don't want to at the same time cos I would have wasted my time and efforts if I do.

[Mirage]

If you have earth elemental junctions and the damage reduction adds up to exactly 100%, i believe it is possible that the game simply shows nothing instead of a "miss" or "0" damage.

why do you think this is like cheating? it's not your responsibility to iron out coding errors.

[Jarvio]

If you have earth elemental junctions and the damage reduction adds up to exactly 100%, i believe it is possible that the game simply shows nothing instead of a "miss" or "0" damage.

You might be right, but this definitely didn't happen with me, because I didn't have hardly any earth magic, plus it happened to all 3 of my characters, plus in a separate battle later on (with the same stuff junctioned) the move did take damage. So it can't be to do with what I had junctioned.


why do you think this is like cheating? it's not your responsibility to iron out coding errors.

True that it isn't my responsibility, or fault. But I view it like cheating because the end result is that I defeated the creature, and all creatures after it until I healed, with more health than I should have had.

[FFNut]

If it bugs you a lot, you could always just pay for healing you don't really need down the road to even it out.

[Mirage]

If you have earth elemental junctions and the damage reduction adds up to exactly 100%, i believe it is possible that the game simply shows nothing instead of a "miss" or "0" damage.

You might be right, but this definitely didn't happen with me, because I didn't have hardly any earth magic, plus it happened to all 3 of my characters, plus in a separate battle later on (with the same stuff junctioned) the move did take damage. So it can't be to do with what I had junctioned.


why do you think this is like cheating? it's not your responsibility to iron out coding errors.

True that it isn't my responsibility, or fault. But I view it like cheating because the end result is that I defeated the creature, and all creatures after it until I healed, with more health than I should have had.
You played the game according to the rules set down by the programmers. Not cheating. Exploiting bugs isn't really cheating either, it's just taking advantage of rules that aren't defined well enough.

[Jarvio]

I don't suppose there is a way I could watch back my playthrough is there? It's not recorded or anything, but thought I'd ask. Playing on PS3.

That way I could see if it really did say nothing, or if I just simply didn't spot it.

Question - Would a glitch even happen in this way? I know glitches are common, but would a glitch ever manifest itself in this way? (An attack not saying any hit points). Or do you think it's simply impossible?

[Jarvio]

If you have earth elemental junctions and the damage reduction adds up to exactly 100%, i believe it is possible that the game simply shows nothing instead of a "miss" or "0" damage.

You might be right, but this definitely didn't happen with me, because I didn't have hardly any earth magic, plus it happened to all 3 of my characters, plus in a separate battle later on (with the same stuff junctioned) the move did take damage. So it can't be to do with what I had junctioned.


why do you think this is like cheating? it's not your responsibility to iron out coding errors.

True that it isn't my responsibility, or fault. But I view it like cheating because the end result is that I defeated the creature, and all creatures after it until I healed, with more health than I should have had.
You played the game according to the rules set down by the programmers. Not cheating. Exploiting bugs isn't really cheating either, it's just taking advantage of rules that aren't defined well enough.

Last time I played and beat FFVIII I 'exploited' a bug. I was playing on the PSP, and during a boss fight, the whole thing slowed down/lagged. However, my gf boost wasn't effected, and this enabled me to boost Quezacotyl to 250, which I am otherwise not capable of.

Eversince then it has been bothering me like crazy and I had felt that I haven't beaten the game properly. So this is the reason why I have finally started a file again, in order to 'beat it properly'.

Would you say this armadodo thing is not as bad as the quezacotyl boost thing?

Note - I have an illness, severe OCD and aspergers, and it effects my gaming experience in this way in general. Which sucks because I love playing games.

[Bubba]

That sucks, man. It sounds like the only way you'd be satisfied would be to restart the game again. At least the point you're at isn't too far into the game.

[Galuf]

i dont think the armadodo event is nearly as bad as the Qbird event.

probably wouldnt do much damage if it hit and maybe you got lucky but didnt see miss?

if the armadodo hit and left you alive then it missing isnt too different. i dont really remember its strength.

(though tbh with 8 its kinda hard to beat it properly with how broken it is)

oh yeah.. how much damage does a 250 Qbird do?

[Jarvio]

That sucks, man. It sounds like the only way you'd be satisfied would be to restart the game again. At least the point you're at isn't too far into the game.

Well I told myself that too, but then I realised, if I start the game again, something else may (and probably will) happen, because my mind is that paranoid about glitches that it is inevitable. It happens every time I play a game these days.

Also, I'm quite far into the game now anyway - I have just got Tonberry Gf, and am about to go to Trabia Garden, well into disc 2.

[Jarvio]

i dont think the armadodo event is nearly as bad as the Qbird event.

probably wouldnt do much damage if it hit and maybe you got lucky but didnt see miss?

if the armadodo hit and left you alive then it missing isnt too different. i dont really remember its strength.

(though tbh with 8 its kinda hard to beat it properly with how broken it is)

oh yeah.. how much damage does a 250 Qbird do?

I guess with the Qbird thing, I partly had control. Yes the slow down/lag was not my fault, but I still chose to boost to 250. (I can't remember how much damage that does btw).

Whereas the armadodo thing was a) 100% not my fault, b) not even certain it happened, and c) like you said, it probably wouldn't have made a difference anyway. Because I still had plenty of health, and straight after I saved and used a tent anyway. Plus the attack doesn't even do that much damage really.

Is this all reasonable to say?

I hope my mind lets me 'count' this and I can get past this madness.

[Jarvio]

(though tbh with 8 its kinda hard to beat it properly with how broken it is)

I've heard people say this before. Just curious, what makes 8 broken?

[Bubba]

(though tbh with 8 its kinda hard to beat it properly with how broken it is)

I've heard people say this before. Just curious, what makes 8 broken?

Using Modding and Junctioning you can become unbeatable from very early on. For example, once you get GF Siren, learn L-Mag-Refine - buy 10 tents - refine into 100 Curagas - put onto Squall's health. That's it. You've beaten FFVIII.

[Mirage]

None of those are glitches, though. You're being rewarded for picking skills to learn manually rather than just going with what the game auto selects. You're rewarded for playing smart, if you will. There is nothing improper about it.

Curaga isn't even a very good spell for it, seeing as you'd be cannibalizing your hp in order to heal yourself. There are tons of spells you can get to really boost your stats that are available from triple triad, but the thing is, all this time spent on learning specific skills and acquiring specific spells isn't really worse than running around in circles and gaining exp in other games. It's just a different approach. Triple Triad doesn't take 0 seconds to win. The cards you need to win aren't just found in infinite amounts in your inventory. There's still a time:strength ratio in place that isn't really all that extreme compared to many other games.

[Jarvio]

Ok either I'm going crazy, or I witnessed a second glitch.

Basically, last time I got my seeD salary, I was seeD level 30. Then, my next salary after that, it said level A back down to 30!

I didn't go up to A from 30 the time before that!

Or did I? Maybe I'm going crazy and not noticing things?

(I was in Shumi village at the time)

[Bubba]

My game did that every time I got paid. I have no idea why it happens.

[Galuf]

Ok either I'm going crazy, or I witnessed a second glitch.

Basically, last time I got my seeD salary, I was seeD level 30. Then, my next salary after that, it said level A back down to 30!

I didn't go up to A from 30 the time before that!

Or did I? Maybe I'm going crazy and not noticing things?

(I was in Shumi village at the time)


THERES LEVELS AFTER 5!!??


this glitch sounds useless. like just a word error, did it change your money in a way you wouldnt have had if it didnt glitch?

[Karifean]

That's not a glitch. Certain story events give you SeeD level ups that you don't know about until you either just check it in the menu or get your next salary. The Shumi Village sidequest is one such event. Other examples include doing the rocket base mission without messing up and also beating Ultima Weapon.