FF7 riddles

[PhoenixAsh]

Cool,that riddle wasn't that bad actually, I prefer ones that take thought over game knowledge. I'm gonna pass my turn to whoever turns up next if thats okay, I'm too tired to think of one right now.

[BudSoda02]

Okay. I'm always telling people to get out of my shop who aren't in Shinra uniform in Junon. Who am I?
Thanks- BudSoda02 BudSoda02@yahoo.com aim- BudSoda02 yahoomessenger- BudSoda02

[TheSpoonyBard]

Are you the Junon shopkeeper that tells people not in ShinRa uniform to leave the shop?

[Weimar Pluto Knight VII]

Yeah, he sounds like he's talking about an NPC.

[Idaho]

it's that Golden Saucer guy right? who gives you GP??


next one

Tifa's red-haired childhood friend

[Idaho]

woops

I messed up, I answered the last question from page 5...
just forget it then :rolleyes2

[BudSoda02]

Yeah, he sounds like he's talking about an NPC.
Yep your right Weimar... it's an NPC. Good Going! :cool:
Thanks- BudSoda02 BudSoda02@yahoo.com

[Weimar Pluto Knight VII]

Okay, so I can go?

Oh, and the answer to Idaho's riddle is Johnny.

Hmm, let me think.... hmmmmm. I'll post it later as soon as I think of one. If no one posts anything by the time I get back, it will be in this post in an EDIT. I don't want to doublepost, like Idaho just did. If someone posts something before I think of a riddle, I'll just post it next.

EDIT: okay here we go:

"My name is rather humorous.
You may think of writing,
But really no one is seen writing in me.
However, something disturbing regarding
The one between Pisces and Taurus
Is written above me."

Okay, you are finding the name of the speaker. If you find the name of the character mentioned, it will help you.

[One winged angel of death]

is it cait sith? *i'm dumbfounded*

[Weimar Pluto Knight VII]

You're on the right track, owad. Writing is the main hint here. Think outside the game for that. There's a name that is the same of something else not in the game that has to do with writing. I help you if you can figure out the hint in the last 3 lines. It's an event. You could probably use the hint and use the directions instead of the 'writing' clue to solve the riddle.

Okay, the 'writing' hint is a little obscure. Let's just say that when Squaresoft came up with that name, they might have had copyright issues, or the company named the same as what you're looking for might have been sued. I don't know if it happened, though.

[TheSpoonyBard]

Between Pisces and Taurus lies Aeris, but I don't see the link with the writing. So, my first guess is Aeris.

[redxiiii]

:confused: I don`t know,avalanche :confused:

[Weimar Pluto Knight VII]

Okay, Darkness has the hint. You probably don't need the 'writing' hint. Okay, what is below the place where something disturbing is written about Aeris? And don't really think 'written' with a pen. It's just produced in some way, and Cloud reads it. Now listen to how the speaker is applying the hint to himself.

You can use the hint (which is pretty easy now), or you can start looking at writing programs on your computer until you think "Hey, that's the answer!" I hope somebody has the program; I think it's second most popular.

[battousai9439]

You can use the hint (which is pretty easy now), or you can start looking at writing programs on your computer until you think "Hey, that's the answer!" I hope somebody has the program; I think it's second most popular.

Wrtiting programs? Is the answer Microsoft Word or something?

I'm really confused...

[Weimar Pluto Knight VII]

No, "Microsoft" isn't in FFVII, but another one is.

Since someone figured out the hint, let me rephrase the riddle.

"My name is rather ironic.
You may think of writing on your computer,
But really no one is seen writing in me.
However, something disturbing regarding
Aeris
Is written above me.
Who am I?"

[battousai9439]

Man, I looked up about 20 of the most popular Word Processors out there, and none of them triggered anything in my head...

[Weimar Pluto Knight VII]

It's the name of a company who made the writing program.

Okay, the writing program is Word Perfect! Everybody should be going "ooohhhh"

This turned out to be harder than I thought. Word Perfect is not the answer, but the company who made it is the answer, and that's what's in FFVII which is below where Cloud reads the disturbing thing.

Okay, that's as many hints as I can give. It's really easy now.

[battousai9439]

What... Corel?


OH!!! Corel Wordperfect *slaps forehead*

When I pulled up the info for those WPs, I went "oh, so it's Corel who makes Wordperfect." Completely ignoring North Corel...


I don't know what the disturbing thing is, but oh well...

[Weimar Pluto Knight VII]

Yay, battousai got it!

I would have accepted any place with Corel. N. Corel, Corel, Corel mts, Corel Prison, as long as you said Corel.

I was trying to refer to--in the hint--the last fortune Cait Sith gives you right before he joins your party. Something like, "You will find what you seek, but you will lose something dear." Hmm, kinda like Kingdom Hearts, Chain of Memories. Like we wouldn't see that! But anyways, he gives you the fortune at Gold Saucer, which is above Corel.

k, battousai. riddle away.

[battousai9439]

Sorry, i'll have to do it tommorrow. My parents are bugging me for the internet...

wait here...

[Weimar Pluto Knight VII]

Tomorrow came and went.

Okay, this time I'll just be matter of fact and won't complain like did in that 'name the background' or something thread where I made an ass of myself. I apologised after I realised I was away from my computer and then I couldn't figure out how post a pic. Then the thread sort of faded away.

Let's give him another 48 hours.

[battousai9439]

Okay, I absolutly can NOT think of anything... why don't we give someone else a chance?

[Starcrest]

can't think of one or dont want to?

[battousai9439]

Both, really...

[Weimar Pluto Knight VII]

"I am a playable character that has appeared in the most Squaresoft games."

Just in case I made a mistake, here's some hints to make sure we're on the same page.

"I cameoed with someone else in this game that takes place in the same place as FFXII."
"I cameoed with someone else in this game that has a German title."
"I cameoed with four other people in this beautiful game whose main character means 'sky' in Japanese."

[battousai9439]

Aerith?

[Weimar Pluto Knight VII]

Nope, sorry. Close, though.

(Okay, if battousai doesn't want to post another riddle, don't make Aeris the answer b/c he'll guess it first:) )

But, if you can name me four games other than FFVII that Aeris has cameoed in, you win.

Oh, and you can't guess. There's only 9 playable characters to choose from. So, that means you don't have to worry about summoned beings or anything Let's make it a multiple choice, but there's a catch.

1) Cloud
2) Barret
3) Tifa
4) Aeris (eliminated)
5) RedXIII
6) Yuffie
7) Cait Sith
8) Vincent
9) Cid

The catch is you need to tell me what games the hints are refering to. If you give me the wrong character, you must name at least 4 games she's been in, excluding FFVII itself.

[Halenite]

Cid?
Doesn't Sora mean Sky in Japanese?
If not Cid, is it Yuffie?

[PhoenixAsh]

I haven't actually played two of these, so I'm pretty much guessing, but I'm saying Cloud, and in order:

Final Fantasy Tactics, Ergheiz, and Kingdom Hearts.

[Weimar Pluto Knight VII]

Phoenix Ash gets 100%!

Riddle away, PA.

[PhoenixAsh]

I don't think I should keep passing these on, but I can't think of anything just now. Someone else can go, and if nothing comes up soon I'll try and have a think.

[TheSpoonyBard]

Wandering alone
Or staying at home
I do both, but I require
These items of great desire
The flower of love
Hot and dry, no life to be found
The sound of angels
Eminating from the ground
Directions to my goal
Witnessed only by a shoal.

Please identify the narrator of the riddle, plus the items described.

[PhoenixAsh]

The Kalm Traveller, Desert Rose, Earth Harp, Guide Book. Nice riddle, and unless I'm wrong I'll pass my go on again.

[Skogs]

This thread is still going ?!?

:screwy:

Sorry, I'll leave now...

[TheSpoonyBard]

Congratulations to PhoenixAsh. As there are currently no new riddles the oppurtunity to post one is there if you want it.

[one_winged_angel]

This thread is still going ?!?

:screwy:

Sorry, I'll leave now...

Yeah, you'd better, it's still going on because it's good

[redxiiii]

:D I`ll post ariddle then... here goes I`m part of a civilisation thousands of years old maybe even ancient enjoy,my riddle :D

[TheSpoonyBard]

Red XIII, Aeris, Bugenhagen, Sephiroth (He says in the Nibelheim flashback he has something to do with the Ancients after reading through Professor Gast's reports).

One of the above.

[one_winged_angel]

Sephiroth wasn't an Ancient and the answers you listed weren't above where you said "one of the above" :p

[Buster Sword Strike]

Aeris

[Starcrest]

funky what they did with the threads... oh right, riddle.

RedXIII is my guess

[Giga Guess]

Jenova? Or perhaps Ifalna?

[redxiiii]

:D Buster sword strike is correct, it`s Aeris because she is the last ancient,or cetra, your up bss :D

[TheSpoonyBard]

Red XIII, Aeris, Bugenhagen, Sephiroth (He says in the Nibelheim flashback he has something to do with the Ancients after reading through Professor Gast's reports).

One of the above.
Time of post: 9.36 PM, 9-1-05

Buster Sword Strike's time of post: 12.50 AM, 10-1-05

Technically I got the answer correct first, so it should be my turn next.

[redxiiii]

Whoops sorry Darkness you can go next then

[TheSpoonyBard]

This is in the form of a plotless and somewhat nonsensical story, but the way it is written will hopefully reveal what it is I am asking for.

A rejuvinating breeze blows across the face
Of a company director who once fancied himself
As a bit of a gambler. Yahtzee was his favourite.
Winning caused him leap into the air with much vigour,
"Not for the cowardly" some may say.
A husky sits beside him, baring his teeth and snarling
As the beat of his heart quickens.
Suddenly, the beast becomes crazed and attacks
The director's vintage car, tearing a wide zig-zag, like a lightning bolt, down both side panels.

It's very confusing and abract, and it's not written as well as it could be, but I'll leave it for some people to take a stab at it.

[DelightfulSpekkio442]

Rufus.

He has that dog-thing.

~MJE~

[Weimar Pluto Knight VII]

Company director? and he's a guy.

Heidegger, Palmer, Hojo, Reeve? I'm putting my money on Palmer.

[Starcrest]

i'm guessing Rufus. The wolf thing he speaks of is when he meets cloud in Shinra Building

[Weimar Pluto Knight VII]

Why are you guessing Rufus, SE? You'll lose if you're right. You both have a point; looking at the part where it talks about the dog makes me think of Rufus. But she (or it's a guy who is in love with Lulu) said 'director.' Most of the details seem random, except for the jumping part. Palmer!

[Starcrest]

good point so i hereby change my statement to tALL the Shinra Executives, or Shinra in general

[PhoenixAsh]

Hehe, good times, it's nice to see things haven't changed much in over one and a half thousand posts :D.

A rejuvinating breeze blows across the face (Healing Wind)
Of a company director who once fancied himself (Big Shot)
As a bit of a gambler. Yahtzee was his favourite. (Dice)
Winning caused him leap into the air with much vigour, (Jump)
"Not for the cowardly" some may say. (Braver)
A husky sits beside him, baring his teeth and snarling (Galian Beast)
As the beat of his heart quickens. (Beat Rush)
Suddenly, the beast becomes crazed and attacks (Lunatic High)
The director's vintage car, tearing a wide zig-zag, like a lightning bolt, down both side panels. (Greased Lightning)

I haven't played in a long time, and I don't want to look at the site for names as it's a bit cheap when it's this close. But it's level one limits. Nicely written.

[Weimar Pluto Knight VII]

Wow Pheonix Ash. Very good. I'm sure that's the right answer. You also named them all correctly.

[TheSpoonyBard]

A rejuvinating breeze blows across the face (Healing Wind)
Of a company director who once fancied himself (Big Shot)
As a bit of a gambler. Yahtzee was his favourite. (Dice)
Winning caused him leap into the air with much vigour, (Jump)
"Not for the cowardly" some may say. (Braver)
A husky sits beside him, baring his teeth and snarling (Galian Beast)
As the beat of his heart quickens. (Beat Rush)
Suddenly, the beast becomes crazed and attacks (Lunatic High)
The director's vintage car, tearing a wide zig-zag, like a lightning bolt, down both side panels. (Greased Lightning)

Very very close, so I'll give it to you. You've got the right idea, but a couple of the names were wrong.

"A husky sits beside him, baring his teeth and snarling" was meant to refer to Sled Fang. Huskies traditionally pull sleds over snow, so I was playing on that idea.

"Suddenly, the beast becomes crazed and attacks" This was Galian Beast, but as you named pretty much everything correctly (Jump is Boost Jump), I say well done!

[Starcrest]

PhoenixAsh...I hate that ur so smart lol. is it common sense or just...good guessing?

[PhoenixAsh]

Thanks, and seeing the actual solution that riddle was actually even better than I thought originally. I rememberred Boost Jump after I posted, but didn't change it. I really keep meaning to do a riddle when I post, but I haven't played in a long time, I can't remember much. I'll try for next time, or if noone posts one soon.

EDIT: Shiva's Effect, I'm very sorry :D. To answer your question, here's a tip for riddles. If there are nine lines, try and solve the riddle like above.

[Weimar Pluto Knight VII]

This thread has been unconscious for a few days, so I thought I'd give it a little jumpstart. (No, that's not a riddle whose answer is Tifa.) Someone else want to answer? I think I've taken the initiative once or twice already.

[=Angelus=]

alright... then i think i'll have a go :D this'll be one of the first riddles i ever made.. so bear with me

"i give you red, and i give you ice
its the least i could do, after you saved my life
since now you have rested, and with the summon you carry
save the earth, so we can marry!"

[Weimar Pluto Knight VII]

Do you want the person who is talking? Priscilla.
Do you want the person being talked about? Shiva.

[=Angelus=]

*bing bing bing* i think we have a winner!

the answer is Priscilla!!

yups.. taggies!

[Weimar Pluto Knight VII]

Well, I have an hour before my next class, so I guess I have time to think of one. Hmm.

"One of my names is a holiday."

[PhoenixAsh]

Vincent VALENTINE.

[Weimar Pluto Knight VII]

Yeah, I had to give up my computer to a cute girl b/c I couldn't get that one to sign in. So, I couldn't make my riddle harder. I knew someone was gonna get it as fast as that Priscilla one.

k, PA. Riddle away.

[PhoenixAsh]

Okay okay, I'll actually write one.

The sun stood alone, and did it's work.
It looked down at the world, the grass was calling for the aid of the gods.
The sea was cold, yet hot at once, it healed the earth.
Surprisingly,the plums rose up and led the way, they told the others what to do.

What did the blood do?

[battousai9439]

Blood?

[Weimar Pluto Knight VII]

Not sure, but my thoughts are drawn to Red's, Aeris's, and Yuffie's limit breaks. Um, it fested (Yuffie)? Or maybe it was drawn b/c of Red's fang?

[redxiiii]

:confused: :confused: :confused: Thats a hard one, can we have a clue? :confused: :confused: :confused:

[PhoenixAsh]

Sorry took a while to get back. No clues yet, maybe if theres actually more than one guess :D.

[Weimar Pluto Knight VII]

There are more than one guess. I guessed 2ce. It, uh, fested. It involved Red XIII. Am I on the right track thinking about people's limit breaks?

[redxiiii]

:( c`monnnnnnnnnnn just one little clue :(

[PhoenixAsh]

Weimar, no you're way off. Okay a clue (I'll give a better one later when people have thought a bit). This is HARD...I guess, I thought plums was a bit of a giveaway, but apparently not. This is not an ordinary riddle, and there's a catch. Read it carefully, it isn't worded randomly.

[redxiiii]

Is it to do with the end where holy stops meteor and heals the earth as you said :confused: :confused: :confused: :confused:

[Weimar Pluto Knight VII]

Come on everybody! Where are you all? red14 and me are getting nowhere. Help us!

[TheSpoonyBard]

The sun stood alone, and did it's work. (Sephiroth's Meteor)
It looked down at the world, the grass was calling for the aid of the gods. (The Planet was calling out for Holy to protect itself)
The sea was cold, yet hot at once, it healed the earth. (Lifestream erupting)
Surprisingly,the plums rose up and led the way, they told the others what to do. (No idea)

What did the blood do? (I'm assuming the 'blood' is the Lifestream, and if this is the case then the 'blood' helped to protect the Planet from Meteor)

[PhoenixAsh]

Hmm, okay that was better, but still way off. I can't really give clues to this without giving too much away, I'll say that almost nothing in the riddle is meant literally. Well then again, some is, but not in this context. I'll be more helpful next hint.

[redxiiii]

:confused: :confused: :confused: Is it to do with jenova cells? sorry it`s just what did the blood do made me think of that :confused: :confused: :confused:

[Weimar Pluto Knight VII]

How about telling us if we should think in terms of items/equipment/limits or stuff like characters and story.

[PhoenixAsh]

I wonder where all the other posters are. Okay here's a clue, each line contains two important details, they are pretty much completely useless on there own though. Plums is the big clue to what this is about, just because there isn't a lot else they could be for
(though bear in mind there is a catch to this riddle).

[Lord Xehanort]

Ansem: Plums are a fruit... the guys in the gym in Wall Market are fruits...

Kounetsu: Calling for the aid of the gods couldn't be anything but Holy.

Ansem: Unless 'the gods' refers to their kingdom, 'the heavens', which are in the Clouds. Or it could be referring to the choirs of angels 'Great Gospel'.

Kounetsu: I think this may be one of PA's 'solve each line' riddles which contain an answer on every single line, which may not have anything to do with each other.

Ansem: C'mon guys, let's all brainstorm to figure this one out!

Kounetsu: Or we could juuuust... BEAT THE ANSWER OUT OF HIM!!!!!

[PhoenixAsh]

I will say this, this is absolutely NOT one of my separate line riddles, if you don't take the riddle as a whole, you'll have trouble..... That's not to say it couldn't be divided another way though.....

[Weimar Pluto Knight VII]

um, it stopped the sun from doing its work?

Oh, does it have to do with a bolte plume?

[PhoenixAsh]

I'm intrigued by the bolt plume guess (not that it's close), just it may have some correct logic to it... then again it may not. The last two posts I did were fairly big clues so I'm not gonna give anymore, theres still a leap or two to be made, but think about what I've said so far.

EDIT: Actually thinking about it, this could be seen as one of my separate line riddles... hehe the structure is a bit different though.

[Weimar Pluto Knight VII]

Does it have something to do with the part with Shinra and the Diamond Weapon? Reeve told everyone else what to do. The blood went to the sun, I guess, which is the Sister Ray. Then I guess it fails to kick some Diamond butt, but destroys the barrier.

[BudSoda02]

Remember Diamond weapon shot off just before he/she/it was shot by Sister Ray & yes it went through Diamond or else it wouldn't of destroyed the barrier... (Talk about two birds with one stone.) I personally don't think that the ray would've went through Diamond without Avalanche there to kick it's butt. Didn't Tifa say something about Diamond, as it can sense murder? I guess she was talking about Shinra... I don't know the answer to the question... Isn't bolt plume done by that monster Sephiroth left as a present for you in the Nibel Mountains?
Thanks- BudSoda02 BudSoda02@yahoo.com
(sorry for getting so far off topic)

[Weimar Pluto Knight VII]

(Bolt Plume is just an item you can get that I think some monsters drop. It lets you cast bolt2. Sephiroth throws the Destruct materia at you. I only use it for the final battle b/c the final boss uses wall on himself, and deBarrier is the default ability with no AP.)

[PhoenixAsh]

Weimar, these aren't bad guesses as such, but you're nowhere near getting the riddle. Read what I've said, I really don't see how this riddle can be solved without looking at it as a whole (although it can be done without half of the details).

[lord shishio]

Ruby dragon. No wait wrong game, sorry, I don't know.................................obease Tonberry painted with red spray paint

[redxiiii]

:confused: :confused: :confused: I`m baffled, can`t you give us a better clue I know it may give away too much but if we don`t get it we won`t be able to move on? :confused: :confused: :confused:

[PhoenixAsh]

Yeah never mind, I'll just leave it up in case people wanna try it, whoevers next feel free to post one.

[Weimar Pluto Knight VII]

You all, I hope, don't have a tough time with this riddle!
Underneath the treetops is where you'll find me!

Five times I am closer to the serpent.
Five wooses along the way!

I hope you put me in your party!
Except when we meet Sepiroth! 'Gawd!'

[TheSpoonyBard]

Yuffie.

[Weimar Pluto Knight VII]

Very good, Darkness.

I guess we needed an easy one after being totally lost by PA's last riddle. Gee, I didn't think it'd be that easy. It took an hour and a half for someone to solve it.

So did you find her name in it, or were my hints obvious?

Okay, Pheonix Ash. Riddle away.

[PhoenixAsh]

Umm, think it's Darkness' turn...

[Weimar Pluto Knight VII]

Oh yea. I meant Darkness. I guess PA solved a lot of my riddles before, so I said you by mistake.

[TheSpoonyBard]

That's ok, dont worry about it. My next riddle is very short and will need some thought to solve it, but hopefully someone will. My money is on PhoenixAsh :D

This is the beginning and the end for all.

[redxiiii]

Is it holy bcos it might wipe out everythin on the planet? :confused:

[redxiiii]

Maybe doomsday, but the riddle says all, :confused: so I think it means every1 on the planet unless i`m wrong of course?

[BudSoda02]

It's got to be Hades, I think the fourth longest summon in the game behind Knights of Round, Bahamut ZERO & Neo Bahamut. 2nd stab, Knights of Round because there's a new beginning for you & a new end for your enemy.
Thanks- BudSoda02 BudSoda02@yahoo.com

[Weimar Pluto Knight VII]

Lifestream

[TheSpoonyBard]

Well done Weimar. It's your turn now.

[Weimar Pluto Knight VII]

Okay, here goes. I hope this answer hasn't already been done before.

I love You.
You are so much like me in every way,
Except You are a Goddess.
The most Beautiful as can be.

I wish to be your knight in shining armor.

Twenty years now, I cannot find You.
Looking up at the crescent,
I scream with all my soul,
"I shall die without you near me!"

[redxiiii]

:confused: cloud? :confused:

[Weimar Pluto Knight VII]

Red 14: wrong.

Okay, I corrected line 7. Just a grammatical issue; doesn't really help.

Hey, Pheonix Ash? Why don't you throw a guess out? I bet you know how to do this one!

[redxiiii]

Vincent?

[DelightfulSpekkio442]

Sephiroth, speaking to Jenova?

~MJE~

[Weimar Pluto Knight VII]

You are both on the wrong track.

[redxiiii]

Sumthin to do with the turks? Tseng maybe

[Weimar Pluto Knight VII]

Nuthin to do with the turks.

Where's Pheonix Ash? If he uses one of his strategies.... he should solve it. If you know what I'm talking about, you might beat him.

[redxiiii]

Zack? or Aeris?

[Weimar Pluto Knight VII]

You're not using the right strategy here. If I told you the strategy, it'd be easy.

Okay, I'll help you a little. The person speaking in this riddle is not the answer. He's actually not what we care about. Sorry, I should have told you that before, since most of my riddles' answers were the person narrating, but the person narrating in this riddle is irrevelant. It's a first person love poem, but try to read between the lines. It looks like someone writing a love poem, but if you are reading it like that, you are reading the mask of the riddle.

[redxiiii]

Sorry i`m not to good at riddles

[=Angelus=]

i somehow get the feeling its related to that flashback of childhood Tifa and Cloud... but them again i could be wrong....

[redxiiii]

It`s dyne isn`t it cos of the pendant hhe has it`s a crescent or marlene cos dyne is the narrator Yeah i`ll go with marlene

[Weimar Pluto Knight VII]

Dyne is not the narrator. No one is the narrator. You are reading the mask of the riddle.

I have an idea. I'm going to PM random people hints instead of posting them on here. That oughta make things interesting!

EDIT: I've PMed different hints to Angelus and redxiiii. It's just a matter of whoever is able to use it correctly first. Or, Pheonix Ash will be able to figure it out w/o a hint first. If you post a guess after this post, and I haven't PMed a riddle to you, I'll consider doing that.

[abrojtm]

Are we supposed to identify "You"?
If so, then my guess is Aeris.

[Weimar Pluto Knight VII]

Aeris is incorrect.

abrojtm, look for a hint in your inbox in a bit.

EDIT: Okay, 3 people got a different hint now. The only thing I don't like about this is abr is online, so he has a bit of an advantage.

EDIT: I guess he's not on anymore. Well, when someone solves the riddle, you'll understand why I'm doing hints in this fashion. I think we should incorporate PMed hints from now on, so people can't ride on hints.

[abrojtm]

Oooh, I think that I so totally got it: Venus Gospel.

[Weimar Pluto Knight VII]

Wrong. It's not VG.

[abrojtm]

:( Princess Guard?

[Weimar Pluto Knight VII]

Wrong. (You're checking your inbox, right? I keep sending you a hint everytime you guess.)

[PhoenixAsh]

Okay I'm gonna have to jump in I guess. The answer I'll guess from abrojtm is Ultimates, though I can't fit that. I'm sure it's something that is united by the characters, (at least some). I've leant towards characters important to them (Zack, Seto, Marlene etc.) but I can't get that either. This is tricky...

[Weimar Pluto Knight VII]

We have a winner! You mean Ultimate Weapons, right? That's them all right. Can you explain to everyone why?

[PhoenixAsh]

I love You. (Premium Heart)
You are so much like me in every way, (Conformer)
Except You are a Goddess. (Venus Gospel)
The most Beautiful as can be. (Ultima Weapon)

I wish to be your knight in shining armor. (Princess Guard)

Twenty years now, I cannot find You. (Missing Score)
Looking up at the crescent, (Limited Moon)
I scream with all my soul, (HP Shout)
"I shall die without you near me!" (Death Penalty)

I kept thinking that answer, but couldn't work it out, once I knew it was right it suddenly clicked. That was actually really well done, it was a lot harder than usual. I'm gonna leave my last riddle up for now, but someone else can riddle in the meantime.

A quick clue, about my riddle, think about the objects listed outside of the game context.

[I Don't Need A Name]

here 1
1 is right 1 is left
this 1, near the sand, met his death

[Weimar Pluto Knight VII]

Ruby Weapon, or maybe those arms of his.

My second guess would be Dyne, but it doesn't really fit the whole riddle.

Nothing else seems to happen near sand. And nobody dies at Costa del Sol.

EDIT: No, it's Dyne. A gun arm is on the right arm, and another on the left.

Dyne is my official guess.

[I Don't Need A Name]

yup its dyne (why didnt u think it fit the riddle)

[Weimar Pluto Knight VII]

Well,once I figured out the gunarm part, it made sense.

Okay, here's my riddle.

"Hey, check out that bunch over there."
"Oh, yeah. I've heard of that cold guy."
"What have you heard?"
"He is not sure if he came first in something, I think."
"I think his girlfriend knows."
"That's his girlfriend??!!!! Oh man, I'm jealous!"
"Unfortunately, I think that other girl has a crush on him."
"Hmm, I think his girlfriend might beat us up, so do you think the bear in the marshallow might know something about him? He looks like he sucks in battle."
"No, he doesn't know much at all, I hear."
"Haha! Look at that cute, tall guy who looks like Blank from FFIX!"
"Look at how fat that other guy is! I bet he gets stuck everywhere and needs someone to help him out."
"No, actually."
"You say sumthin'?!"

Who were the gossipers talking about before they got noticed? I'm thinking this will be easier than my last riddle.

[I Don't Need A Name]

Cloud (is the guy who looks like blanc Vincent?)

[Halenite]

Well,once I figured out the gunarm part, it made sense.

Okay, here's my riddle.

"Hey, check out that bunch over there."
"Oh, yeah. I've heard of that cold guy."
"What have you heard?"
"He is not sure if he came first in something, I think."
"I think his girlfriend knows."
"That's his girlfriend??!!!! Oh man, I'm jealous!"
"Unfortunately, I think that other girl has a crush on him."
"Hmm, I think his girlfriend might beat us up, so do you think the bear in the marshallow might know something about him? He looks like he sucks in battle."
"No, he doesn't know much at all, I hear."
"Haha! Look at that cute, tall guy who looks like Blank from FFIX!"
"Look at how fat that other guy is! I bet he gets stuck everywhere and needs someone to help him out."
"No, actually."
"You say sumthin'?!"

Who were the gossipers talking about before they got noticed? I'm thinking this will be easier than my last riddle.

In order
Cloud (cool guy)
Tifa (his gf)
Aeris (other girl)
Cait Sith's Moogle (bear in marshmallow)
Cid (the tall guy who looks like blank (note the hair))
Barret (fat guy)

[Weimar Pluto Knight VII]

Cloud (cold guy) correct
Tifa (his gf) correct
Aeris (other girl) wrong
Caith Sith's Moogle (bear in marshmellow) wrong
Cid (tall guy . . . blank) wrong
Barret (fat guy) wrong

[Weimar Pluto Knight VII]

Sorry mods, mind if I jumpstart this thread?

Okay, Hal, your answer is partially correct, but once you figure out who the other characters are, you'll know the answer.

I forgot to start a new game last night and check if Blank looked like the character I'm looking for. So if you figure it out, great! If I messed up, well, I'm pretty sure you can guess who he is after figuring out the other 5 characters.

Cloud=cold guy
Tifa=his gf
?=other girl
?=bear in marshmellow
?=guy who looks like Blank
?=fat guy

Fill in the question marks, and tell us what you would call everyone.

[Halenite]

Cloud=cold guy
Tifa=his gf
?=other girl
?=bear in marshmellow
?=guy who looks like Blank
?=fat guy
Fill in the question marks, and tell us what you would call everyone.

Other girl= popssibly Yuffie?
Barret= Bear in marshmellow
Vincent= guy who looks like Blank
Cait Sith- fat guy.

that it?

[Weimar Pluto Knight VII]

Sorry, guys. I've been sick and have been lying in bed for like 20 hours.

You got Barret right!

Also, once you figure out enough people, you'll be able to call them something collectively.

[I Don't Need A Name]

cold guy- cloud
Girl friend- Tifa
Other Girl- some1 from avalance
bear in marshmellow-barret
guy who looks like blank-?
Fat guy-?
is the Something collectivly AVALANCHE

[Weimar Pluto Knight VII]

Very good, final-andy.

The other girl was Jesse. She's supposed to like Cloud, right? Unfortunately, she dies like 50 hours of gameplay before Aeris died, so that romance had no chance to develop.

I thought Biggs looked like Blank.

Wedge was the fat guy. I was trying to satirise the fact that despite his name being Wedge, and his being fat, Jesse is the one you have to help b/c of her wedged foot.

Okay, f-a. Riddle away.

[I Don't Need A Name]

ill give it 2 ya U R VERY CLEVER!
ull get this 1 easy
left, right,left,right
fast or slow
fast will cost
slow will reward

[Giga Guess]

Hmmmm....could it be the train sequence with Cid as the leader....where you get a huge materia.
Train goes too fast, and you lose the Materia.
You slow it down in time, and the Materia's yours, as well as the Ultima materia(?)

[I Don't Need A Name]

well done giga guess ur turn

[redxiiii]

Where is giga it`s been days now?! should someone else go

[I Don't Need A Name]

OK
Cloud,Tifa,Aeris,Red
alll these have 1
this is better than all the rest
What is it

[TheSpoonyBard]

Are you implying that these four characters have something the others do not? And the idea of the riddle is to identify what this something is?

[Weimar Pluto Knight VII]

hmmmm, they have lvl4 limits better than all the rest???? Or am I thinking in the wrong way.

[TheSpoonyBard]

It must be something else because Red XIII's Lv.4 limit is useless (Stardust Ray is his best), and Tifa's doesn't work the same way as everyone elses. Could it be a reason for killing Sephiroth? Having said that it seems wrong, as there are people with more of a reason to kill him than Red. Can we have some more detail?

[PhoenixAsh]

Parents.

[Weimar Pluto Knight VII]

While we're waiting for Final-Andy to say "You're right, PA!" I'd like to suggest two new rules for this thread.

1) Hints may only be sent via PM to people who have guessed. PMing is also the only way to know how close you are, too.

2) We had to wait a while for GG last time, so to avoid that, I suggest a 24 hour grace period for the solver to post the new riddle. After that, anyone can post a riddle. That way, the thread doesn't risk going under.

[-N-]

Rule 1 is lame; Rule 2 is generally implemented.

[PhoenixAsh]

Rule 1 isn't that bad. I don't think it should be a rule as such, more an option. Some hints should definitely be general on obscure riddles though.

Anyway that's up for discussion. If I'm right, then I pass on my go, and I'll leave my last riddle up for solving, and maybe start posting new ones in a while. That said I may easily be wrong.

[abrojtm]

Red doesn't have any parents during the game. Seto is a statue and his mother (does she have a name) is long since dead. I suppose Bugenhagen is something like a parent though.

[PhoenixAsh]

In the time the game is set neither does Cloud, Tifa, or Aeris. The others aren't mentioned. OH scrap that! Yuffie has a dad. Hmmm, back to the drawing board.

[I Don't Need A Name]

i just said four charcters names! it includes ALL of the characters but those 4 sounded cool in the riddle so i put them in OK!

[PhoenixAsh]

Oh, it's Ultimate Weapons, then I guess...

[I Don't Need A Name]

well its Ultimate Weapon but ill give it 2 ya. ur turn!

[PhoenixAsh]

Why singular? Anyway as I said, I'm passing my go on, my riddle is still open aswell.

[Giga Guess]

As for your Riddle, PA, I have no idea...

(I can't believe it. I get a riddle right then my internt craps out....>_<)

Okay, here'a a VERY short one, and here's to hoping it's not to easy.

Sacred blossoms.
What am I referring to?

[gismo]

the Flowers in the church where you get Aeris as a character in Sector 6 slums (i think its 6 slums the church is in)

[Weimar Pluto Knight VII]

The flowers in the church in the Sector 5 Slums. That's probably the right answer. Gismo just got the sector wrong, so she can go ahead and do the next riddle if I'm right.

[gismo]

Well if that is the correct answer then my riddle is this:

it may be small and flat but it holds a greater power when caught.
what is it?

[Giga Guess]

Well I was more referring to the song "Flowers Blooming in the Church" but....meh.

[DelightfulSpekkio442]

Kjata materia?

~MJE~

[TheSpoonyBard]

The Black Materia?

[redxiiii]

I`ll make a new riddle b`cos this thread has been dead for ages! "I`m dressed funny but I`m a great help to u" happy guessing!

[TheSpoonyBard]

Vincent. Some would consider him to be dressed "funny".

[redxiiii]

nope! try again

[Weimar Pluto Knight VII]

Hmm, I have a feeling the dressed funny thing is not a random detail. If it is, this riddle is too hard. I can't remember if the boss from the prison mentioned funny clothes, but maybe the answer is Esther. She is supposed to be a great help to you. You'd never get out of the prison.

[redxiiii]

Yes weimar got it, it was ester who helps you out of the prison

[gismo]

sorry dudes iv been on hol for a week an cudnt get bk on!
DelightfulSpekkio442 got it right it was kjata summon

[Weimar Pluto Knight VII]

"I am part of the second found, and the second to last of something else."

Okay, who's talking?

This is kinda tricky, so I'll add that this is true if you are very thorough and collect everything, but this does not include sidequests.

[Halenite]

*bumps up to top.*

[Weimar Pluto Knight VII]

Thanks, Hal. Come on, everybody!

[Cloud Strife fanatic]

Im just gonna spitball it, Jenova?

[Weimar Pluto Knight VII]

waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay off.

I'll PM hints if the guess had some thought to it, as when I did the ultimate weapons one, I related their guesses to the hint. Unfortunately, I can't relate Jenova to the answer. Sorry, CSf.

Actually, maybe you did have some thought. Jenova is the 2nd to last to fight, but you completely ignored the first part of the riddle.

Try again. You can do it!

[redxiiii]

Is it vincent?

[Weimar Pluto Knight VII]

Nope not Vincent. He's the 2nd to last character found, but how is part of the second found of something else? Also, my hint explained that my riddle is true if you've found everything in the field in the regular quest (so, no sidequests and hence Vincent is wrong under that logic,too) and haven't failed anything.

Since nobody is coming close, I might at well give everyone a hint. It's someTHING you FIND. So's the other THING. There something that you find that's the 2nd thing you've found non-randomly,then if you complete the game w/o missing anything in the main quests, you will find the other thing that's 2nd to last of something more specific, which is "part" of the first thing.

[redxiiii]

Thats a very confusing hint, but I`ll guess again is it a materia

[Weimar Pluto Knight VII]

Sorry about the confusing hint.

Hmm, since it seems it's just us on, I'll just post a hint on here.

Be a little more specific. Oh, and the answer is the 2nd thing in the riddle. There's the first thing that will help you with the 2nd part of the riddle, and that's who's talking, and that is the answer.

[redxiiii]

Is it REDXIII?

[Weimar Pluto Knight VII]

No, what are you doing? You're getting cold again.

When you said "materia," I said, "Be more specific." Notice I used that hint after that particular guess.

Okay, here are the hints. There's something that you find if you are thorough in your searches in the main quests that's the 2nd thing to be found. Now, fast forward much later when you find the 2nd to last thing of something else, which is also a part of the other thing. This second thing is the answer. Also, when you said the answer was materia, I told you to be more specific. Hmm, maybe that hint about specificity wasn't so random, considering your guess.

Good luck, red. I know you can do it.

[redxiiii]

So it must be a materia right ermm.......this is hard *randomly guesses* bahumut

[FallenSilence]

I'd say Bahamut Zero? That's the second to last Huge Materia, I think. I haven't played the game in ages.

[Weimar Pluto Knight VII]

I hope it's not Bahamut Zero. Otherwise, I messed up. Okay, guys! Now get even more specific than that! You're close. It's obvious how to be more specific, so I'll just say that I hope there isn't any summon materia in the North Crater or Midgar, b/c if there is, I messed up.

EDIT: Uh oh. Is there one in the Underwater Reactor? I don't think so, but if there is, uh, pretend it didn't exist!

Don't forget about the first part of the riddle. That's another route you can take. The route you are on doesn't have much distance left on it, and if you figure out the first part of the riddle, the rest of the distance to the answer is pretty short. Being part of the 2nd found of something different implies that the answer is right in front of you if you figure out the first part of the riddle.

EDIT: whoops, I should probably add also that if you use the first part of the riddle, it's not the second thing literally, but the second type of the thing that's not a summon materia.

[redxiiii]

Shield materia, mega all materia?

[Weimar Pluto Knight VII]

I don't care about the shield or mega all materia.

Due to the several paths in the Northern Crater, there is no specific order where you pick up items. But, my riddle still holds, b/c it doesn't matter what order you picked up stuff in the Northern Crater. No matter what you do in the Northern Crater, the second to last of a specific kind of something you find will be part of the second totally different thing you collect, in context of the whole entire game (except for sidequests).

All you have to do is start a new game and play through the first reactor mission! After it blows up, you say, "Okay, I definitely did everything I can do in here. Hmm, let's go through 2nds."

If you get an answer that doesn't help you, if it's the same as "the first," that doesn't count, as I pointed out earlier.

[gismo]

is it the dark mater?my logic on this is way wrong an half asleep so not readin ya hints well enuf but dark mater is the second to last materia to be used at the end, as Holy is the last, and as to the second found, in the ancients temple u find bahamut summon first, if i remember right (might b wrong as not played in years an my PS n players guide is in attic as room is empty at min)

[Weimar Pluto Knight VII]

Is Dark Matter in FFVII? Maybe that's in the Japanese version.

Did I say "use?" I thought I said "found."

Okay, let's organise our hints here.

Path 1: You use the first part of the riddle to get the second part, which is the answer. I remember I said all you need to do is replay the first reactor bombing, doing and getting everything, then search through "seconds." The second type of something is during this event. If you know what it is, it will be sooooo obvious what the answer is.

Path 2: Solve the hint directly by ignoring the first part of the riddle, and follow the hints provided here. We've narrowed it down to a materia. Definitely, the answer is the second to last specific materia you find, assuming you do everything except for sidequests. The North Crater has several paths, making doing stuff in there random, but that does not affect this riddle. No matter what order you get everything in the crater, you will follow my riddle. As I stated before, if you fail some things in the whole game, the riddle may not work out. You must succeed exactly four times, where it is possible to fail.

EDIT: I should probably rewrite the riddle b/c I realise some of this is vital to solving the riddle.

"I am part of the second thing found,
And I am the second to last of something different found.
For this be true, one must succeed four times
When one may fail.
Be narrow-minded but thorough,
And you will realise what I am."

[redxiiii]

Steal or cure materia?

[Weimar Pluto Knight VII]

Let me clarify something. Specific type of materia, I mean. Not specific materia.

What worried me above? Okay, let's start eliminating. The Norther Crater did not worry me at all. I didn't remember what you collected, but I knew that it did not affect my riddle. In fact, you can eliminate everything in The Northern Crater b/c of that, so don't guess anything else from the North Crater.




Area #47 - The Crater (revisited) / Final Encounter

[. . .]

-> [Materia] [. . .] HP Absorb Materia [. . .] Shield Materia [. . .] W-Magic Materia, Counter Materia [. . .] Magic Counter [. . .] Mega-All Materia,

Hmm, that comma at the end worries me. I hope it's complete. I also notice 3 blue materia.

Let me teach you proof by contradiction. I do it in my math classes sometimes.

Assume solution is blue materia.
Second to last blue materia you collect is unaffected by whatever you do in the North Crater.
But, there are three blue materia in the North Crater.
--><--
.'. All blue materia are not a solution.


RED: how is Steal or Cure part of the second thing found of something else? Also, is cure the 2nd to last green materia you find, skipping sidequests?

[redxiiii]

Sorry weimar I was just to tierd and about to give up, I`ll guess again, ermmm,holy or black materia

[Weimar Pluto Knight VII]

Come on, Red. You can do it.

(Yeah, I'd be tired too if I stayed up until six. You in Eastern Time Zone? I am pretty tired, too, for studying until 3 AM last night.)

Okay, back to the riddle. I think Holy and Black Materia were already guesses, and I said they were wrong. Well, for some reason the person called the Black Materia "Dark Matter," but Black Materia when you call it what it is is still wrong.

Just work backwards through the game. If there's only one yellow materia at the crater, maybe the answer is a yellow materia. (Not "yellow or command materia," but one of them.) Just go back through the game until you get the 2nd to last one. Proof by contradiction helps. So if you follow a kind of materia backwards, you have to make sure it passes the first part of the riddle. Like "Okay, maybe it's W-item. It should pass the first part of the riddle." If it doesn't, you draw crashing arrows on your paper and follow another type of materia backwards. If you can figure out how it passes the first part of the riddle, then you win.

I don't know how another materia could pass my riddle, but if it one exists, and you say why, you win, and I'll tell you what one I intended.

But, the one I intend passes the first part of the riddle quite obviously. So, for those of you trying to start with the first part of the riddle-- like I sort of said earlier, just play through the first reactor bombing again collecting everything, and the answer will be right in front of you at some point. Remember, the second something is not something that the answer is, but the answer is "part" of the thing in the reactor.

Good luck, y'all!

[redxiiii]

Hp absorb?

[PhoenixAsh]

I'll go with Ultima. I can't actually remember whether you get it in the reactor or not, but I'm pretty sure you get Restore there, or near there. This would be the second materia you find, it happens to be magic. Shield would be the final magic materia, and that leaves it as either Full-Cure or Ultima. As Ultima is the one that can be failed in several different ways I guess that.

I know some of that logic doesn't necessarily fit the riddle, and Ultima doesn't seem as obvious as it might, but I just read every hint from the original clue in one go and now I'm too tired to think.

[Weimar Pluto Knight VII]

Red, I just proved to you that no blue materia is the answer, and nothing in the crater is the answer. Why would you pick that?

Pheonix Ash, I am impressed with your critical thinking, but Ultima wasn't what I was looking for. Unfortunately, I cannot reward you with a statement that you solved the riddle.

This is basically what I want you to do. If the answer is S, you have to say, "S is the second to last T materia you get, and S is part of the second totally different type of thing you collect in the game, which is X, and X is a(n) x. The ambiguous phrase "part of" refers to how E." "S"="the answer," "T"="type of materia", "X"="the second thing you collect blah blah blah," "x"="what that thing is, like materia, armor, weapon, etc.", and "E"="explanation of what 'part of' means."

So, Pheonix Ash thinks the answer is Ultima. So, he needs to fill in the logic variables with support as to why Ultima is the answer. So, "Ultima is the second to last magic materia you get, and Ultima is part of the second totally different type of thing you collect in the game, which is ______, and ______ is a(n) ______. The ambiguous phrase "part of" refers to how ______________." If he can't fill in the blanks, then he needs to come up with a different materia.

Succeeding four times does not mean you will not collect the answer, but it will make the riddle untrue. You don't have to explain this, but you may, since if you have the answer I'm looking for, you'll know what these are.

Some errors in PA's logic is that Restore is the first materia you collect, not counting ones pre-equipped onto the Buster Sword. I also, I would call Full-Cure something you get in a sidequest, since there's not much of an obligation to get it at a certain time. I am defining sidequest as anything you do where the story wants you some place else. If the story isn't at Cosmo Canyon where an item becomes available then, don't worry about it since it contributes to variable order.

If proving it seems hard, if you have the answer I'm looking for, it shouldn't be too hard to fill in all the blanks, as long as you have a pretty good memory of the game, so you have to know order of important stuff to collect, which probably isn't too hard. The stuff in the first reactor you probably have memorised since you've done that a lot more times than the rest of the game.

[PhoenixAsh]

Okay well in that case I think the answer must be Phoenix. A Summon materia, and I'm guessing it's the second if you ignore Bahamut ZERO, Hades, and Knights of the Round... Actually scrap that, I think ZERO would be the final one, making the four huge materias the ways to fail. The second item you get would then be Phoenix Down, of which Phoenix is part of the name.

[Weimar Pluto Knight VII]

All right, Pheonix Ash! You are the master of solving FFVII riddles.

I think I actually write too many hints, but I'm afraid the thread will go dead if I don't help.

Riddle away, PA. . .or not, if you don't want to.

[PhoenixAsh]

Thank you :D . The hints were fairly important there I thought, it was quite a tricky riddle to get from scratch, nicely complex to understand though.

I'm gonna give it to the next person who wants to make a riddle again, but I'll leave my old one up for solving still:

The sun stood alone, and did it's work.
It looked down at the world, the grass was calling for the aid of the gods.
The sea was cold, yet hot at once, it healed the earth.
Surprisingly,the plums rose up and led the way, they told the others what to do.

What did the blood do?

[redxiiii]

:( Not that riddle again I`m so :confused: but I still want to solve that riddle instead of another.
Hmmmmmmmmmm, is it to do with the jenova cells? :confused:

[Weimar Pluto Knight VII]

Hmm, maybe it has to do with Sephiroth in the flashback. He's alone, working/reading/, looks down on everyone, then you might be talking about the burning of Nibelheim, ...

The blood followed the plums. The plums had a reunion or something.

You might also be talking about Midgar. The blood gave life to the sea, while the plate was looking down.

[PhoenixAsh]

I'm intentionally not giving massive clues to this, bear in mind it's only there as a background riddle while someone else writes the main one...

I really can't say a lot here, the most important thing to note is the structure of this riddle. It isn't as uniform as it could be, but it's pretty much key to solving it properly. That said you could in theory solve this without a lot of the information given.

[boris no no]

is it one of the weapons?
which one do you follow around....
not playedd VII in ages...

ruby? or is it emerald....

[Weimar Pluto Knight VII]

Ultima Weapon, borisnono. What riddle are you answering? He's asking what the blood is doing.

[redxiiii]

is it one of the weapons?
which one do you follow around....
not playedd VII in ages...

ruby? or is it emerald....

Huh? :confused:

[Skyblade]

Hmm...

What exactly do you mean by the "structure" of the riddle?

1st line-9 syllables
2nd line-17 syllables
3rd line-13 syllables
4th line-20 syllables

...Nope, no clue there...

Judging just from the clues, I'd guess that the sun is Meteor. Meteor was alone in the sky doing what it was meant to do-destroy everything.

The grass calling for the aid of the gods would be the land/people in despair at the situation, asking for hope but not knowing if any would come.

The sea healing the earth would be the Lifestream stopping Meteor, though I can't make sense of the cold/hot bit.

The plums then would be the heros or the Shinra. Cait Sith instructed people to take shelter in the slums, as did Rufus and company.

Which would leave the blood to be Sephiroth, and what it did was hold Holy back.

That's the most sense I can make of this. But if I'm wrong, I'll be happy to try again.

[Weimar Pluto Knight VII]

No, the blood is something the plums is telling what to do. Shinra doesn't tell Sephiroth to block Meteor. That can't be right. Also, the way the question is structured, you have to try to be able to come up with something metaphorical, like the rest of the riddle. Am I right, PA?

I'm trying to ignore the nouns in the riddle, and trying to see if the actions are familiar. I'm also thinking about what could be comprised of five elements. One thing I can think of is the Pagoda, but I can't think of a way to apply the riddle there.

Maybe you could tell us if we're getting closer to solving the riddle? Anybody come close?

[PhoenixAsh]

Skyblade used impressive thinking, but sadly not right. Weimar, very good logic, and getting very close to answering this, however you seem to have assumed a link between the instructions of the plums and the blood which isn't there. I may have been misleading in a clue somewhere in that respect, so if I was I apologise.

As for the form of the answer, that should be fairly clear once you work out what it is. I don't have anything specific in mind.

EDIT: If you are going to use the entire riddle, I should make two warnings. One is that there is a twist that I put in to make it harder to solve. Two is that you have to assume something about the plums, which might be less obvious than for the other nouns.

[Halenite]

Might the "plums" be referring to purple materia?

[Weimar Pluto Knight VII]

oooo, that's a good idea, Hal. Let me use that suggestion.

The blood called forth the gods, which then appeared.

[PhoenixAsh]

Ooooh, almost there. Keep going, and bear in mind, I wouldn't make it quite that simple :D.

[Halenite]

Did they summon Holy?

[Weimar Pluto Knight VII]

How do I keep going? Try again with something different?

I wonder what the twist could be. I mean, the materia theory works.

Sun=yellow materia
Grass=green materia
Sea=blue materia
plums=purple materia
blood=summon materia

Do I have to come up with something else for the blood to do? All we have to do is figure out what every line's counterparts are in the game, then change what blood's counterpart does to a metaphor that fits the rest of the riddle, right?

Let me go back to Midgar then.

The Shinra Bldg. is the sun, due to its location in Midgar and due to it working.

The people in the slums of Midgar call for the aid of the gods, or Shinra.

The sea is Avalanche. The sea comes from what an avalanche is. The coldness comes from it being snow and maybe b/c Cloud is a member; the hotness coming from Barret (short temper) or Jesse (she's hot, okay j/k). It heals the earth by blowing up reactors and stopping Sephiroth.

Plumszzzz....... hmmmm. The Turks are kinda bossy.

The blood is Mako. Possible answers due to this logic:
A) The blood gave life to the sea.
B) The blood came out of the planet, causing it to gradually die.

EDIT: Hal, I think you have to be more metaphorical.

[Weimar Pluto Knight VII]

I thought maybe you were wasting time with going over a wrong answer again, but nobody's called the blood Red XIII. I think you need to be more metaphorical, though.

[PhoenixAsh]

Aaargh, so close, and now going in totally the wrong way. Weimar don't go back on what you've got, but actually try and get the whole riddle working. I said there was a catch and there is, work out what it is and you've finished.

[Weimar Pluto Knight VII]

The twist must be there are 5 kinds of materia, so each line is about a materia. That's the only kinda twist I can come up with, unless the plums are the little purple dudes in the Temple of the Ancients.

But it's weird how the actions seem to be messed up. Let me just look at action.

stood alone and did it's work--independent
aid of the gods--summon
healed the earth--support
told the others what to do--command

Okay, I get it. What does command mean? "tell others what to do." That's the twist! I've got it!

What's left, now? Hmm.

Magic! Now, I just need an expression. The blood
1) called on supernatural powers
2) pulled a rabbit out of its hat
3) disappeared
4) cast a spell
5) split the planet in half
6) said, "I will now cut Cloud in half!"
7) did something that means magic

[Skyblade]

The sun (Yellow) is command Materia.
The grass (Green) is magic Materia.
The sea (Blue) is support Materia.
The plums (Purple) is independant Materia.
The blood (Red) is summon Materia.

Pretty easy, if you look at it that way.

So what the blood did was summon... Still, if that's wrong, I guess we'll have to think of something else...

The sun stood alone, and did it's work.
It looked down at the world, the grass was calling for the aid of the gods.
The sea was cold, yet hot at once, it healed the earth.
Surprisingly,the plums rose up and led the way, they told the others what to do.

Looking at the way suggested in the above post, I would say that:

The sun is independent (stood alone).
The grass is summon (calling on the aid of the gods).
The sea is magic (magic is where most of the healing is).
The plums are support (instructing/affecting the others-support materia).

So the blood is Command Materia, right?

[PhoenixAsh]

The sun stood alone, and did it's work.
It looked down at the world, the grass was calling for the aid of the gods.
The sea was cold, yet hot at once, it healed the earth.
Surprisingly,the plums rose up and led the way, they told the others what to do.

What did the blood do?

We have a winner!!!.....Kinda....

The nouns were in facts clues/ distractions as to the solution. They do represent colours of materia, but are not connected to the materia they represent. The idea is to realise you have all five colours, and so come up with the missing action.

stood alone, and did it's work. (Independent)
calling for the aid of the gods. (Summon)
cold, yet hot at once, it healed the earth (Ice, Fire, Cure, and Quake, this is Magic, admittedly slightly less clear than the others)
they told the others what to do. (Command)

And so the blood did whatever you think would represent Support materia :D.

Weimar pretty much got the full answer so the riddle (FINALLY!!!) goes to him, well done :D.

[Weimar Pluto Knight VII]

hmm, that explains the hot and cold bit. Everyone was stuck on that.

Yep, that was very well written, although I think the 3rd line didn't fit the rest of the riddle. The other three were phrases that meant what the materia was called, but you did something different for magic. I don't know if that was intentional to make it hard, or you couldn't think of something better. So, I was like, " 'healing the earth' sort of means support, so..."

I just did the last one, so I pass. College is getting a little stressful right now with studying and a research paper, so right now I only feel like solving riddles but not writing them.

Hal, do you want to go? I couldn't have done it w/o you bringing up independent materia.

[PhoenixAsh]

Yeah I can't remember why I wrote the third line differently, I know I thought about it, because I knew it left out so many magics. I wanted to be not too obvious, that's why the nouns were there as a semi-clue and semi-distraction.

Yeah next riddle should go to Halenite, even though technically mine wasn't part of the main thread.

[Skyblade]

I still disagree with the last bit. You riddle states that the plums "take the lead, telling the others what to do". The only Materia that affects other Materia is support, not command. Poorly worded, in my opinion.

[Weimar Pluto Knight VII]

Yeah, that got you, didn't it, skyblade. Only the 3rd one was poorly worded, b/c the rest of them had a common system. He took the definition of the types of materia, then had something with a different color do each definition. "Independent" means standing alone and doing its work. He didn't intend it to be what the materia does. The word "summon" itself means calling for something, like aid. "Telling the others what to do" means the word "command." That wasn't poorly written; you just got thrown off and wanted to think about the materia and not what their called.

[PhoenixAsh]

*Nods*, yeah thanks Weimar, that pretty much sums it up. I really wish I could remember the thinking behind the third line, I'm sure there was some :P.

EDIT: Actually looking at it I may have been referring to actions, which would then explain the first three lines and not the last one as Skyblade said. Actually maybe you could read the last line in the same way.... Oh well, it's done now :D .

[Skyblade]

Yeah, that got you, didn't it, skyblade. Only the 3rd one was poorly worded, b/c the rest of them had a common system. He took the definition of the types of materia, then had something with a different color do each definition. "Independent" means standing alone and doing its work. He didn't intend it to be what the materia does. The word "summon" itself means calling for something, like aid. "Telling the others what to do" means the word "command." That wasn't poorly written; you just got thrown off and wanted to think about the materia and not what their called.

Telling the others what to do is what threw me. The only "others" we referred to were other materia. And the only materia that affects other materia is support materia.

[Weimar Pluto Knight VII]

Yeah, that threw me off, too, until he said that there is no connection between the blood and the plums. So, even if he said "the" (I can imagine him laboring over that), don't apply a link to the other lines.

Also, I think Mega-All is an independent materia, yet it also affects other materia. There goes your logic.

[Skyblade]

*Shrug* Mega-All differs from support materia in two ways, one of which is very important. The first is that it affects all your materia (which doesn't really matter for the purposes of this discussion). The second is that unlike support materia, Mega-All is useful by itself (it changes your attack to Slash-All). Support materia is only useful when combined with other materia. Oh, and I was not connecting plums to blood (everything else, perhaps, yes, but not the blood, since it wasn't in the riddle yet). I was simply pointing out that the line states that "Surprisingly,the plums rose up and led the way, they told the others what to do". Look at this. "Surprisingly" could refer to the fact that Support materia is useless by itself, so it is hardly the top choice for what "led the way". "Told the others what to do" is also pointing to Support materia. The others are the sun, grass, and sea. What is the only materia (besides a single independant one called Mega-All, if that will make you happy) that "tells the others (other materia) what to do"? Support. Command materia just supplies new battle commands. It doesn't really tell anything what to do.

[redxiiii]

Sorry to intrude on your conversation here, but has any1 made a new riddle?

[Skyblade]

No. It's Halenite's turn, though...

[Weimar Pluto Knight VII]

You missed it, Red! I solved that really hard riddle about the plums and the blood! The answer was the blood did anything that meant support.

Okay, Hal, where are ya, dude? Say the next riddle, Hal. . . . Hal? Okay, maybe you didn't get that joke. But seriously, it's your turn. I hope your subscription to this thread didn't cancel or whatever.

[Halenite]

Sorry, didn't get a chance to get online yesterday (I only have access at the Library and School)
Anyway.
From the table
in King Arthur's Court
We will destroy
the one of the fort.

Last two lines make no sense, but I like rhyming things. The first two lines should give it away though.

[Skyblade]

Knights of the Round - Ultimate End

[redxiiii]

No I seen u solve the riddle great thinkin!

[PhoenixAsh]

Thanks for the support Weimar :D.

Use of the word others wouldn't have anything to do with the other materia in the riddle if you took the riddle as it was. The nouns don't actually exist, they are merely clues as to the answer in the riddle. Even if they were meant to be taken as existing, they don't actually match the actions that they are said to, and therefore couldn't really be taken as materia.

Anyway I'm only defending that point because it's been brought up, that wasn't one of my more planned out riddles if I remember. Good luck with wording your riddle though Skyblade ;) :D.

[Skyblade]

Aw, how kind of you. ;) Thanks, Phoenix. But we still have to wait for Halenite to tell me if I'm right. With luck, I'll be wrong, so I won't have to make a new riddle. I'm not very good at writing riddles. Give me a week, and I might have one for you, but probably not before that. I just like guessing them.

[Halenite]

It was too obvious to NOT get wrong.
Your up skyblade.

[Skyblade]

Damn. Ok, I'm thinking. If anyone else has one, they can go ahead. I'll try to get one as soon as I can, but it probably won't be till next time.

[cloud20747]

I'll try one. It's fairly easy though

"We walk around saying a chant,
you'll probably think were all starting to rant,
Most will make it, some will be lost
trying to make it our feelings are false,
don't take the time to stop
you see how many of us on the face of a clock"

[Weimar Pluto Knight VII]

hmm, the clock in the temple of the ancients?

12 chanters...

[TheSpoonyBard]

It's either what Weimar said, or you are talking about the Sephiroth 'clones' you find in Nibelheim before the Jenova Reunion.

[Skyblade]

If he means the Sephiroth clones, he's wrong, since there are more than twelve of them.

[Giga Guess]

I'm gonna take a wild stab and say the Ancients in the Templa of Ancients....?

[cloud20747]

Well I know there are more than twelve but come on...... and the rest of the riddle was correct plus i was counting the ones before Red XIII
OK ForestOwl your up

[Weimar Pluto Knight VII]

When you are spending the night in the Gold Saucer (moments before the date), someone says, "So, there are at least 13." I would have cut the clock thing from the riddle, then. Other than that major flaw, the rest of the riddle was good.

[TheSpoonyBard]

A calm breeze prevails,
Carrying our voices away,
From below we hear a sigh,
Eminating from the angry forge
Where swords and shields are made,
One to attack, the other to defend.
To stand here, listening to the trobbing heartbeat of nature,
Is enough to make even to toughest of hearts sing "Hallelujah"

What is the riddle talking about?

[Weimar Pluto Knight VII]

Hmmm, Cosmo Canyon?

I don't remember a place in FFVII that makes swords and shields. There's a dude in the underworld of FFIV that makes a sword, though. Too bad this is about FFVII, though, so I'm stuck.

Another reason I'm stuck is I count 8 lines. Can anyone think of something with 8 elements to it?

[TheSpoonyBard]

No, sorry. Pay attention to the punctuation as it helps with the reading of each line. Don't take it too literally either.

[Weimar Pluto Knight VII]

Hmm, Lifestream?

Lifestream passes a few things. Meteor would be the attacker, and Lifestream would be the defender. It comes out from the ground. It's also the throbbing heartbeat of nature.

Am I getting closer to the answer?

[TheSpoonyBard]

No, but keep guessing.

[Halenite]

Is it the Ancients?

[TheSpoonyBard]

No, but that is slightly closer.

[redxiiii]

City of the ancients?

[TheSpoonyBard]

Again, no, but still in the correct vein.

[mike without a hat]

the crater?

[TheSpoonyBard]

No, Halenite and redxiiii were closer with the Ancient idea.

[redxiiii]

The ancient forest?