Final Fantasy Riddles

[UltimateSpamGrover]

oh yeah, forgot about that

[§håd0w]

when you are testing the airship Hilda Garde 2, I think, and it is your airship, but it isn't completed, or ready yet.

It was completed, it was just unsafe due to the fact the regent was an oglop when he created the core parts. So to him they seemed functional, but in reality it was far from stable.

[PhoenixAsh]

Sorry, you're going way off track, and DO NOT REARRANGE THIS RIDDLE. I've said several times the punctuation is important, leave it as it is.

I'll give the answer soon.

[PhoenixAsh]

The actual full solution:

Life from life and onto the finish (Breed then race)
Find power from legends old.(KOTR)
Get them all and find the home, (Chocobo Forests and the shrine)
To gain something to play with. (Chicobo card)
Search the world from high to low, (Chocographs and diving down and flying up with Dead Peppers)
Through this many things can be sought. (Well they can)
Then just chase some decorations to reverse the clock, (Hit the balloons to get a time less than what you start with)
You'll get power, just not quite ready. (Unpowered Legendry Weapon)

Not quite right logic, but pretty damn close, well done Doomsday!

[§håd0w]

You're killing us Ash... just killing us.

[PhoenixAsh]

Haha, hey at least that one got solved! I didn't use any sneaky tricks either. My FFVII thread riddle on the other hand... well if that gets solved quickly I may have to get a bit cruel :D.

[§håd0w]

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!

;)

[chu52]

is it the tissue from ff7 (japan version where they can supposidly revive aresith)?
That is all I can think of.

[-N-]

I'm gonna go with the Crystal Cecil uses on Zeromus in FFIV. It's significant, but you can't really use it.

Otherwise, the Crystal in FFIX, that's supposed to be the collection of all eternity or whatever lameass crap that was.

[§håd0w]

Those both sound logical, I'm gonna lean a bit more towards the Crystal from IX, since it never came into play until you fought Tranced Kuja and Necron. And I'm still confused to as where Necron came in... he came out of nowhere and instantly became the main focus.



is it the tissue from ff7 (japan version where they can supposidly revive aresith)?
That is all I can think of.

As for that... Tissues are practically insignificant, there have been a few people who have come remotley close to proving that those are tied into the Battle Square. But as for the the revival of Aerith/Aeris, that was never possible, 'twas only a rumour spread by incredibly large losers, who wouldn't accept her death

[Big D]

The Black Materia?

[-N-]

This answer doesn't gel 100% with the riddle, but I'll say the place where Cecil turns into a Paladin on Mt. Ordeals.

This answer doesn't gel fully as well, but the Dark Crystals in FFIV? I thought it was underground, so it couldn't be snowy...

Or the crystal which you learn the first jobs in FFV (Blue Mage (blue = unhappy), Thief (riches are yours))?

Bleh.

[nik0tine]

this is most likely way off here, but is it thea earth crystal from ffv?? the only reason i am guessing that is because of the great loss-galuf dies. i really have no idea.

[UltimateSpamGrover]

is it in the mountain where Josef dies ? Dont you get the item from Borghen ?

[PhoenixAsh]

*Feels somewhat discriminated against but has never played FF2 properly so sits biding his time*

[-N-]

The Ice Sled?

It's what you use to get to the Snow Field, which is where Josef dies...

[UltimateSpamGrover]

yay! I solved the second part of the riddle!

[§håd0w]

*Feels somewhat discriminated against but has never played FF2 properly so sits biding his time*

*Feels very discriminated for not being able to answer PheonixAsh's riddles, so sits trying to figure this one out.*

Ice Sled does make sense, since it is useless everywhere else. Plus you can play the card game on it, so that brings the fortunes. :D

[-N-]

I've seen people abbreviate my handle as POD or prince; it's up to you.
If you have clearance, you can call me a special name, too.

Anyways... *fights riddle battle on two fronts*

It's meal time and we're hungry.
Oh man, I am starved!
This doesn't look good, you want it?
What rubbish! You can't be serious?
Oh well, time to go back to life.

This might be a bit too easy... we'll see.

[Dragoon Kain]

zell and his love for hotdogs? or quina?

[Rusty]

Yea I'd say its Zell aswell.

[UltimateSpamGrover]

the old lady who sells pickles in Lindblum on FFIX?

[-N-]

Hint: All of you are in the wrong games. I wouldn't make it that easy.

[Takara]

When Sabin eats at the restaurant in the Ghost Train?

[-N-]

That's not the full answer, but it is part of it. I'm feeling like a bastard, so keep guessing, you're almost there.

[-N-]

No....... you're going off track. Takara literally has part of the right answer.

[UltimateSpamGrover]

Is it the ghost character thats temporary?

[-N-]

Alright, final blatantly obvious hints.

1. Think of all the characters in your party during this event.
2. Grover's named the one not included in the event.

[-N-]

Yeah. The order in which I wrote the lines was Sabin/Shadow/Cyan, since Shadow gives it to his dog and Cyan says hell no.

[§håd0w]

Hey Doomsday, will you give me a dollar if I can name the episode of Family Guy you sig came from?

[§håd0w]

'Death is a Bitch'

Guest starring Norm MacDonald as Death.

:D

[-N-]

I loved that episode.

Today, on Hitler... :D

[-N-]

Feels like the whole R=U thing from FFVIII...

The hate/love thing could refer to Edea...
Edea also kinda starts it all by receiving Ultimecia's powers...
Too many crazy holes to fill up...
And don't die, otherwise the whole thing is kaput.

[UltimateSpamGrover]

The Warrior class?

[PhoenixAsh]

The fact you wrote the word 'saved' suggests this is too obvious, but it really sounds like save points, even before you said it involves many FFs.

Start what I finished, (You start at the last time you were at one)
All will be saved. (Well...yeah)
Hate me now, (It's annoying to do)
Love me later. (Nice when you die)
Too many issues, (Problematic bosses etc., plus loads to do for a single play session)
Still the same. (Again with the saving)
Say goodbye,
I will try,
Please don't die. (These three lines read like the save point saying not to die and have to come back and say goodbye again)

[Rase]

Darn you, I was gonna post that. :( I finally thought I knew one...

[TasteyPies]

3D graphics? no? bah!

[Rase]

Phoenix: Nope, not save points, it wouldn't be that obvious.

I don't feel as bad anymore. :)

[Dragoon Kain]

is it talkin about the main characters of the games?

Start what I finished,
All will be saved. (1-2 confuse me a little but something with cloud and the mako reactors?)
Hate me now,
Love me later. (3-4 talkin about squall and how hes a jerk in the beginning but changed near the end?)
Too many issues,
Still the same. (5-6 talkin about zidane when he finds out hes a genome and gets all depressed but people tell him hes still the same zidane?)
Say goodbye,
I will try,
Please don't die. (7-9) yuna talking about tidus about how hes going to disappear.)

well i tried lol :p

[Dragoon Kain]

uhh. then the suppoting characters :D or is it talking about a specific character from each game?

[Dragoon Kain]

Start what I finished,
All will be saved. im still confused here though. umm aeris? how she started to save the world with the holy materia but then dies?
Hate me now,
Love me later. (3-4 talkin about squall and how hes a jerk in the beginning but changed near the end?) i still think thats right or rinoa about how squall doesnt really like her in the beginning but does at the end
Too many issues,
Still the same. (5-6 talkin about zidane when he finds out hes a genome and gets all depressed but people tell him hes still the same zidane?) either this or vivi
Say goodbye,
I will try,
Please don't die. i still think this is tidus. that or its yuna talking about tidus. something like that :D

[Dragoon Kain]

i said one for 5-6 ..."Too many issues,
Still the same. (5-6 talkin about zidane when he finds out hes a genome and gets all depressed but people tell him hes still the same zidane?) either this or vivi"

but ummmm garnet maybe?

[Dragoon Kain]

urgh theres more :( umm lets see. lead female characters?

[Dragoon Kain]

lol sorry. wooooo i got it. cept i hate making riddles so i pass my turn :p :D :p :D :tongue:

[Rase]

Well, I'll give it a go, but first, I gotta give props to Dragoon Kain. Good job, that was a freaking evil riddle.

Anyway...

I am one,
Of that which is four.
Death only strengthens me,
And I must not let you pass.

Who am i?

[Dragoon Kain]

thank you :) :feels special: and umm milon, one of the four fiends?

I am one,
Of that which is four. (four fiends)
Death only strengthens me, (hes undead)
And I must not let you pass. (not become a paladin?)

[Rase]

Darn my inability to make a hard riddle.

Go ahead, unless you want to skip it again.

[Dragoon Kain]

skip again :) wooo 2 in a row im so cool :cool:

[Rase]

Well, here's a (hopefully) hard one.

Good of you to come.
Sleep between the fights, if you don't you might be done.
Cast slow for an advantage, it might make it easier on some.
So I see you again, but you are not my son.
Great rewards will await you if you deafeat me, but most are to dumb.

[Dragoon Kain]

i dont know this one :(

[-N-]

Well, here's a (hopefully) hard one.

Good of you to come.
Sleep between the fights, if you don't you might be done.
Cast slow for an advantage, it might make it easier on some.
So I see you again, but you are not my son.
Great rewards will await you if you deafeat me, but most are to dumb.

This is describing the events on Mt. Ordeals in FFIV, I believe.

The first two lines are about fighting the Earth Fiend Milan - you can save in between fights. Slow helps, I guess. *never cast Slow*
The last two lines are about Cecil fighting himself - he meets KluYa, but as a Dark Knight, so KluYa doesn't recognize him, so Cecil Paladin fights Cecil Dark Knight - and most are too dumb to parry instead of fight.

[Dragoon Kain]

i was thinking that but couldnt put it into words

[Rase]

No, sorry, that's incorrect. Good guess though, I see how it could work.

[UltimateSpamGrover]

Jecht?, I dont know lol

[Rase]

Nope.

[Rase]

Your on the right track Doomsday.


I'll be gone until tomorrow night, so keep on guessing.

[§håd0w]

This is mainly for Shadow and POD but whoever else...wtvr: We should really start a Family Guy thread

Agreed!! :)

[PhoenixAsh]

So is Godo the answer? Yuffie is indeed not his son...

If that is the answer then Doomsday can have next riddle as he basically answered it. If he wasn't guessing THAT close to the right lines I don't really know what it is at the minute.

[UltimateSpamGrover]

Yuffie is indeed not his son...

Yuffie is a female, not a male

[PhoenixAsh]

*Pats Grover* Have a cookie.

[§håd0w]

Hehe, I like where this is going. Lol.

[Triple T]

Is it EvilWall? Casting Slow on it will give you an advantage...

I know it's wrong... x_X

[-N-]

*Pats Grover* Have a cookie.
:D

I responded in the Family Guy thread before I responded here. Good work!

I'm pretty sure Doomsday / Phoenix are right on this riddle.

[Triple T]

Actually, the first three lines fit in perfectly with Triple T's answer, but not with the last 2.

Woohoo I got most of the answer right! :D But I don't really get the final two lines...

[UltimateSpamGrover]

:D


Someday I will get you back, and it wont be pretty

[PhoenixAsh]

Which FF is EvilWall from? I think this is another riddle I haven't played.... :mad:

[Triple T]

Which FF is EvilWall from?

EvilWall is from FFIV. :)

[PhoenixAsh]

Damn you Doomsday.... DAMN YOU!!!!!!!!!!!

[§håd0w]

I think this is another riddle I haven't played.... :mad:

Do you mean game? :p

[PhoenixAsh]

Doomsday sorry, I got confused into thinking you were the one who set the riddle.

§håd0w yes I did mean game, I just thought people would understand that without having to write a longer sentence.

[UltimateSpamGrover]

dont let this thread die T_T

[-N-]

Yeah, what the hell happened to DPC?

[UltimateSpamGrover]

:banana:

I hate dancing naked bananas

ITS PEANUT BUTTER JELLY TIME!

[UltimateSpamGrover]

llets forget this and get back on topic shall we?

[Rase]

So is Godo the answer?

Why, yes it is. So, I guess Doomsday gets it, since PhoenixAsh decided to give it to him.


Yeah, what the hell happened to DPC?

I'm very, very sorry. I was supposed to respond on Saturday, but a virus on my computer took some time to get rid of. I'm just getting on for the first time now.

[Rase]

Is this for more then one FF or a specific FF?

[PhoenixAsh]

Limit break moves, and thanks for doing one I can guess at :D.

Very rare,
but they're there. (FFVI limits)
The best ones,
You must find some. (FFVII limits)
It's a surge,
On the verge,
Of the end. (FFVIII limits)
Emotions,
are the sole cause. (FFIX limits)
How?
suffering?
fleeing?
attacking?
You choose. (FFX limits)

[The Captain]

That sounds about right.

Take care all.

[-N-]

ITS PEANUT BUTTER JELLY TIME!

Yes, yes it is. :D

:banana::banana::banana::banana::banana::banana:

[UltimateSpamGrover]

:banana::banana::banana::banana::banana::banana:
You are making me mad you sarcastic freak

[The Captain]

Alrighty PhoenixAsh, take it away!

Take care all.

[UltimateSpamGrover]

No Not Phoenix Ash! NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

[Rusty]

:banana:

[UltimateSpamGrover]

:banana: :banana: :banana: :banana: :banana: :banana: :banana:

I hate you, I hate you all

[PhoenixAsh]

Ahhh under so much pressure to come up with good riddles...

Okay here goes.

You might win the fight with this kind of Rush.
A magic, a sword and an enemy aswell.
First on the list in an equipment menu.
A materia that gives you as long as you need.

Okay this isn't great, but I'm trying something new and it's tricky, so it'll have to do for now. To answer the riddle all you have to do is say which FF it's from, but as that would require a maximum of ten (as far as standard games) guesses you have to give me the reason you pick it.

[Rase]

FFVII, because you used the word Materia.

[PhoenixAsh]

Fiendish work Dark_Paladin_Cecil, sadly the wrong answer.

[PhoenixAsh]

Hehe, this might last longer than I thought...

[UltimateSpamGrover]

The enemy skill materia?

[-N-]

You are making me mad you sarcastic freak

Dude, that wasn't sarcasm. I laughed at that. Get a grip, okay?

edit: Don't read this part unless you think you're mature enough to understand what it's saying.
And in case you're having trouble, I'm not being sarcastic here. So grow up some and learn to take a jab. Or dish some of it out yourself. It may be difficult for you at 13 - hell, I wasn't too confident of myself then either. Unfortunately, mindless retorts such as this don't count, since they're just not funny at all.

Random riddle about stuff :D

edit: Hey, there are riddles here!

FFVII.
1. Tifa's Beat Rush - You can "beat" enemies with this "rush".
2. Ultima - Magic Materia Ultima, Ultima Weapon, Ultimate Weapon.
3. I don't know what's first on the list in the equipment menu, but I'll go with Buster Sword, since it's Cloud's first weapon and he's the main character, so ha.
4. Underwater Materia - removes time limit vs. Emerald.

Is this what you're looking for? If so, I think you'll have to be more obscure if this type of riddle is to continue.

[UltimateSpamGrover]

Phoenix Ash's riddle is way too hard, I'm outta here, laterz

[The Captain]

If I interpret correctly, I think FFVII isn't the correct answer.

Hmm... this one will take much pondering.

Take care all.

[ChaosCalibur]

Is it FFT? You can get a materia as a treasure item... or something...

[PhoenixAsh]

princeofdarknez did well in as far as he got, though at least one part was wrong. I did think you'd have more respect for my riddles by now though, as as The Captain has spotted it's not that simple.

Grover don't be so scared of my riddles, they are answerable.

[UltimateSpamGrover]

yeah, right

[PhoenixAsh]

*grins* Doomsday if you're gonna use Big D's nuggets of wisdom in your answers at least use them in context and not because it's all you can think of :D.

Okay I'll give a hint, the answer is NOT FFVII, but materia is found in FFVII, so you're gonna have to find a new way to get the answer to the riddle.

[Rase]

Phoenix Ash, I officially hate you. :p

[PhoenixAsh]

Jeez I actually made this riddle EASIER than I was gonna because I wanted to try a new style quite quickly. POD wasn't wrong to think what he did was overly easy because that's deliberate, he just didn't read my first post properly (or ignored it), and didn't quite get what he did do right.

I do know that was in jest by the way, but seriously so many people are just assuming they can't solve these and not trying properly.

Anyway I've given far too many hints, so I'll leave you to it for now.

[Rase]

No, I'm trying. Trust me. I'm just lost at the moment. :frust:

[-N-]

Strange - I did read your post and all of it, but apparently I still missed something (probably that it's straightforward :)). I also wasn't sure if that was what you were looking for or not, and if it was, well, then I would have been very right, very quickly, now wouldn't I? ;) I didn't mean to show lack of respect for your riddles either, I just thought that if I was that right that easily, then I should provide some constructive input for you. *shruggles*

Anyways, the riddle.

You might win the fight with this kind of Rush. (Bum or Angelo Rush)
A magic, a sword and an enemy aswell. (Atma or Ultima)
First on the list in an equipment menu. (I have to be taking this too literally - no disrespect, but I don't think you know either :p)
A materia that gives you as long as you need. (Underwater, what else could be it?)

Let's try applying FFVI. In this case, the first line refers to Bum Rush or Moogle Rush. If it was FFVIII, then the reference would be to Angelo Rush.

The second one can't be Atma, on second thought, because Atma is not a magic in the game. (It does mean "soul", so metaphorically it could be magic, but even then, there are only two instances of Atma in FFVI...) It can't be Ragnarok, because although it could be a sword or an Esper, it isn't an enemy?
You know, I notice your punctuation is non-standard in line 2 - you should have a comma after "a sword". If this is intentional (I wouldn't put it past you :D), then I would say the Magic refers to (something I haven't figured out yet - I guess Ultima since it's the most prominent magic in the game) and the "a sword and an enemy" refers to Atma.
If it was FFVIII - I would have to go with the idea of Lionheart or Griever or something - because Griever is an enemy and Lionheart is a sword. The "magic" could be the GF Griever or Ultimecia summoning or something like that related to it.

The third line... damn. Like I said, I'm sure I'm thinking of this too literally. Potion? :D

The fourth line... Underwater removes the limit to fighting Emerald. So it gives you all the time you need to fight or beat Emerald. Transpose to other games. Where else do you fight or beat a gem? FFIX comes to mind when thinking of Emeralds as gems and stuff... but it doesn't gel with anything else in the riddle. FFVI, you fight Espers that get reduced to Magicite, which are gems. You also fight Tritoch, which is enclosed in ice, which is kinda like a gem. If it was FFVIII, I don't know.

Well, a deceptively easy riddle you've put together, Phoenix. Well done. :)

I TOTALLY FORGOT ABOUT THE FFVIII RIDDLES THREAD!!! I put an easy one in there. Sorry! :(

[UltimateSpamGrover]

Phoenix Ash, I officially hate you. :p

Thats what I've been saying the whole time

[PhoenixAsh]

Noooo.... POD you're going backwards, you did very well with your first attempt, apart from one line, which you should be able to guess which one that is. I know you weren't being disrespectful, just that you should expect my riddles to have some kind of catch in more than just four separate riddles in one. Also the bit you seemed to have missed was that I wanted you to name a game.
The punctuation in line two isn't relevant, it's just the way I tend to punctuate, though I was impressed at your logic there :D.

Okay I may not be back for a couple of days, but I'll try my hardest to. Here's one last hint, theres a reason you managed to get such specific answers to the lines that you got. I don't make things easy for the hell of it :D.

[§håd0w]

Damnit Pheonix... Why must you always make us suffer :mad:

[-N-]

I did forget to mention a game, huh? :exdee: Well, I should have stated FFVIII. That's what happens when I ramble on about trying to solve stuff - I post my reasoning and forget a conclusion. :p Oh well.

Doomsday's response, if correct, would mean that the incorrect part of my first guess would be the last line - instead of being Underwater materia, it would be, by his logic, GF summons that give you enough time to Boost.

I think the third line refers to Junctioning, because in the menu, Junction is first.

So yeah, just restating Doomsday's stuff here. Good work, I think.
1. Angelo Rush. Hell, it could be Zell's Punch Rush too.
2. Ultima (the whole no-sword thing explained by Doomsday - fits w/my punctuation idea, even though it's wrong :p)
3. Junctioning
4. GF summons
FFVIII.

One thing still bothers me - this is still just treating it as four riddles in one, which Phoenix said there's more to it than that. There's a reason why it wasn't difficult to obtain specific answers...

[PhoenixAsh]

It should bother you. I do like the logic you're both using as it's fairly creative, but it's going completely in the wrong direction. I've said the lines are meant to be easy, and I said POD's first post was very good. I'll probably give the answer soon as it's gone on too long for this type of riddle, never mind I'll just find a new style again.

[-N-]

Okay - I'm going to guess that although each line refers to something from FFVII, when these references are put together, they yield a game that is not FFVII. That's the only way my first post can be more correct than my subsequent posts, and yet have FFVII not be the answer.

You might win the fight with this kind of Rush. Beat Rush
A magic, a sword and an enemy aswell. Ultima
First on the list in an equipment menu. ***
A materia that gives you as long as you need Underwater

***: This is probably the line I got wrong the first time. In the Item menu, Potion is first. In an equipment menu, depending on which character it is, their initial equipment is listed first, I think. I don't have FFVII on me right now to verify this. Someone wanna fill this in?

I'll try and put the remaining three parts together and answer FFVI.

Beat Rush is a type of Limit Break. The concept was first introduced as Desperation attacks in FFVI. Ultima appeared first in FFVI. And underwater fighting appeared for the first time in the FFVI's Serpent Trench. (Fighting on ships was in NES games, and traveling underwater was in FFV, but fighting underwater was not until FFVI).

If no one gets it, maybe you could supply the logic to the riddle and its answer, and we'll decide whether it works or not. :p

[PhoenixAsh]

Okay I'm bored of this riddle now, so I'm giving it to POD for getting closest.

You might win the fight with this kind of Rush. (Beat)
A magic, a sword and an enemy aswell. (Ultima)
First on the list in an equipment menu. (Weapon)
A materia that gives you as long as you need. (Underwater)

---> Beat Ultima Weapon Underwater, a feat achieved in FFVIII. I did say the lines gave specific answers for a reason, and noone even attempted to say anything that was actually in an equipment menu rather than an item menu.

[The Captain]

Tricky and very clever. Excellent riddle to say the least.

Take care all.

[-N-]

...and noone even attempted to say anything that was actually in an equipment menu rather than an item menu.
3. I don't know what's first on the list in the equipment menu, but I'll go with Buster Sword, since it's Cloud's first weapon and he's the main character, so ha.
I see how it fits - "Weapon" was too general for me to catch on, apparently. And if I stopped thinking about line 1 as "Beat Rush" and just "Beat" instead, I think I could have gotten it. Well done.

I can't think of any good ones, so back at you, Phoenix.

[UltimateSpamGrover]

*cries* nooooooooo

[Rase]

Tricky and very clever. Excellent riddle to say the least.

Agreed. Now wow us with another stumper.

[UltimateSpamGrover]

have you noticed its the same 7-8 people posting over and over? The creator of this thread doesn't even reply anymore...

[The Captain]

Yes, I've noticed that as well, but it's still quite fun.

The person who started this thread apparently hasn't returned in a month and a half either.

Take care all.

[UltimateSpamGrover]

ok heres one while we wait

A town with a pirates base
which is linked to another AH
located on the sea
where I should not be

CLUE: Boss in FFVIII

Where am I?

[PhoenixAsh]

Hehe, thanks everyone for the praise. It's getting pretty hard to keep coming up with good riddles but I guess I'll try another...

Rinoa is found murdered in a hotel room, all the witnesses are too scared to come forward, so the only suspects are rounded up for questioning, they each give a different version of events. One of them killed her, but which one and explain how you know...


Squall: I was standing outside the front of the hotel waiting for Rinoa when someone knocked me down and stole some materia I'd found. When I got up I saw someone running out in a cloak, and I heard a load of screaming, I can't believe this has actually happened.

Steiner: I was walking past the hotel when I saw Squall running out of it and I heard a lot of people start shouting. I went in and saw Yuffie and Reno leaving through the back door together.

YuffIe: I was watching from the Highwind through binoculars because there were rumours of disturbances in the area. I didn't have a great view but I think I saw a man running out of the hotel, there definately wasn't anyone outside.

Reno: I was nowhere near the hotel when any of this happened, I have no idea what went on.

Dagger: Yeah me and Rinoa were hanging out in her hotel room, we had an arguement over Squall, it was nothing too serious but she got worked up and attacked me. She didn't mean to but she cut my head quite badly and I ran out hoping she would calm down. I saw Steiner in the lobby so I quickly ducked out the back. Funny now I think of it, why was it left open, and why was there a car outside?



Okay this isn't very good, and it might not work, but it's late and I'm trying to keep things new. Whether this get's answered or not I'll let someone else go because I take up way too much of the questioning in this thread.

EDIT: Didn't see Grover's, umm... I think it's fairer if whoever answer's mine gets it just because that's the order (that's not actually me wanting mine to be more important it just seems logical), but as Grover's was a bonus one theres no reason not to run them both at once. If noone gets mine it can then just go to whoever gets his. Sounds the simplest solution to me, but if it doesn't seem fair then whatever.

[PhoenixAsh]

Heehee, I'm glad that it wasn't answered in one, but I'm just as glad that it wasn't completely away from the right answer. This is a little more complicated than that, but that wasn't a bad first stab.

[FFanatic Of FFantasy]

I haven't beem here for a while...I'll say Reno for a random guess!!

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Wondering Wonders!
Are people with nut allergies allergic to coconuts?
Why is snow white and ice is clear?
What created the Big Bang!

[Rase]

Just would like to say, great job at being original and making this tired thread a little more interesting Phoenix. My hat's off to you.

As for the killer, well, I saw it all, but I'll never tell you! :eep:

[UltimateSpamGrover]

It has to be Reno, he probably pulled up in his CAR, knocked Squall out, and killed Rinoa, this reminds me of an episode of Case Closed

[PhoenixAsh]

Thanks again for the praise, it's good to know my efforts are appreciated :D. Okay I'm not gonna say when people guess the right killer because there are only five options.
Doomsday you've applied bits of the right thinking in both your attempts. I don't want this riddle to go on to long so it doesn't get tired so I'll give a few hints of hints.

Just because you aren't the killer doesn't mean you never lie. I try not to put a riddle up that doesn't require at least SOME FF knowledge. There's a reason for pretty much everything everyone says.

Okay that's quite a lot of hints so I want a pretty full answer, I'll reveal the culprit tonight or tomorrow depending on the momentum of the thread.

[The Captain]

Am I right in assuming that the killer is not Steiner, Reno or Yuffie?

Take care all.

[The Captain]

Steiner also perhaps lied to protect Garnet. I think you've got it.

Take care all.

[PhoenixAsh]

The killer could be ANY of the five suspects I'm saying nothing. Again Doomsday applying another element to answering the riddle but sadly losing some earlier thinking. I'll give it a bit more time as Doomsday is doing well just in broken steps, and if he's getting frustrated then PoD still hasn't arrived.

Actually come to think of it why isn't anyone else guessing?

Okay I'll give one more hint, I put in a twist to make things a bit harder, but bear in mind pretty much everything is important.

[Rand Al'Tor]

witnesses are too scared to come forward, so the only suspects are rounded up for questioning, they each give a different version of events. One of them killed her, but which one and explain how you know...


Squall: I was standing outside the front of the hotel waiting for Rinoa when someone knocked me down and stole some materia I'd found. When I got up I saw someone running out in a cloak, and I heard a load of screaming, I can't believe this has actually happened.

Thinking out loud here... That 'materia stolen' smells like Yuffie... Since Squall was waitin for Rinoa who was IN the hotel, it's unlilemly who knocked him down came out of the hotel. Question: Is Squall SURE the one who knocked him down is the thief. Did he lose consiousness?


Steiner: I was walking past the hotel when I saw Squall running out of it and I heard a lot of people start shouting. I went in and saw Yuffie and Reno leaving through the back door together.

His story does not mesh with Squall's. Except both see someone running out of the front door.


YuffIe: I was watching from the Highwind through binoculars because there were rumours of disturbances in the area. I didn't have a great view but I think I saw a man running out of the hotel, there definately wasn't anyone outside.

HER story doesn't mesh with Squall either, as Squall says he was waiting outside. Of course, she'd have an interest in making Squall look bad if she stoke his materia.


Reno: I was nowhere near the hotel when any of this happened, I have no idea what went on.

Problem with Steiner of course.


Dagger: Yeah me and Rinoa were hanging out in her hotel room, we had an arguement over Squall, it was nothing too serious but she got worked up and attacked me. She didn't mean to but she cut my head quite badly and I ran out hoping she would calm down. I saw Steiner in the lobby so I quickly ducked out the back. Funny now I think of it, why was it left open, and why was there a car outside?

Hmmm, Did Yuffie and Reno perhaps meant to steal Squall's materia and rush away? Which would give someone else a way to make them look suspicious. But I wonder why, if Squall speaks the truth, Steiner would lie about him. Unless Squall lies, in which case he could be the killer....

unless... Garnet and Rinoa having an argument about Squall? Was Squall perhaps in a 'comprimising' situation with Garnet, ran out of the hotel when Rinoa came in and the screaming started, was knocked down by Yuffie and Reno and had his materia stolen (without knowing i was them) while in the meantime Garnet and Rinoa fought with Garnet killing Rinoa, and then trying to escape trying to get the blame on Yuffie and Reno who escaped by car. (since Steiner would have seen them?)

[Rand Al'Tor]

Rreading Doomsday I agree there is perhaps a point to his words... Squall Materia? Which means that it's a conspiracy between him, Garnet and Steiner to frame Yuffie and Reno. On the other hand, Yuffie reeally would NOT be on that airship...

Head... hurts...

(fun how we BOTH had the 'Squall the cheating boyfriend at the same time eh?)

[Rase]

Don't double post, just use the Edit button, that's why it's there.

[PhoenixAsh]

Rand Al'Tor did VERY well in a lot of that, But I'm not giving the answer just yet.

This is a mixed story, Squall is perfectly okay to have materia so don't read into that.

I'll give the actual story in a couple more guesses.

[Rand Al'Tor]

Hmm.... possibility... Garnet didn't do it, Steiner did. After all, Garnet got wounded quite severely. If Steiner saw Garnet come out of Rinoa's room with a headwound... well... He wouldn't SAY he saw Garnet because that would draw suspicion on him.He wouldn't even need to lie. He DID see Reno and Yuffie and he DID see Squall. Squall ran out before and got smacked by Yuffie and Reno, who then fled through the backdoor

[UltimateSpamGrover]

one truth prevails on the next episode of Case Closed! The FF Murder Part 2

[PhoenixAsh]

*Clap*, almost a perfect answer. Okay this is complicated, but heres as much of the logic that I remember.

Important things to note:

Yuffie HAD to be lieing, she couldn't have been near the edge let alone looking down.

But if Yuffie did it, why would Squall see someone running out of the FRONT of the hotel, while Steiner saw Yuffie leave out of the back.

If Dagger is telling the truth why was the back door wedged open and what was the car there for?

If Squall is telling the truth, who took his materia? Whoever did it couldn't have had time to go into the Hotel, kill Rinoa and leave in a cloak. Espescially as there are four suspects all placed in the hotel and noone describes anything like that.

If Squall is telling the truth, Steiner isn't.

I think theres more, but I forget, so heres the actual sequence of events:


Dagger tells the truth exactly as it is, she argues with Rinoa and leaves through the back door.

Yuffie and Reno (purely there as a job) plot to steal Squall's materia, Reno brings the car and wedges the door open while Yuffie takes it from Squall and runs THROUGH the hotel. They both lie to cover their tracks.

Steiner sees Dagger leave Rinoa's room wounded and also sees Reno and Yuffie leave through the back door. He goes in and kills Rinoa in rage, then leaves through the FRONT door and is seen by Squall, who tells the whole truth. Steiner lies about Squall to cover his own tracks.


So pretty damn close Rand Al'Tor your turn :D. Glad that went so well, I was worried about doing a riddle like that.

[The Captain]

Good work Rand Al'Tor!

Take care all.

[UltimateSpamGrover]

A town with a pirates base
which is linked to another AH
located on the sea
where I should not be

Where am I?

what about this?

[Rand Al'Tor]

Whoooo! Oh crap... that means I have to think of a riddle now... And it's bloody late... euh... (this is gonna look lame after Phoenix' exellent riddles)

The first part is the treasure that the man with the azure-shining eyes needed old love's help to find, and how HE would call that treasure that gave him strength to fight, when he was as weak as any hero has ever been.

The second part is the first part of one of the first darknesses, who was there long before the likes Seifer, Rufus, Kuja and and Seymour and whose fear-inspiring words are remembered and occasionally mocked for their inadequate translation.

The third part is but one letter, but it is the end of what in many final fantasies is the messenger of evil, the final form where wickedness takes flight.

The fourth part is the first part of a beast that replaced a beard and a bird.

The final part is one of those 'you often end a word with them' thingies, and it's bloody 2 AM here... I'm going to bed...

But before I forget, the whole is something that can return hope when defeat seems only a hair-breath away.

[The Captain]

Are we spelling a word by figuring out the letters? I assume at least one of the letters is "X".

Also, I think the next riddle, regardless of who answers it, should be Grover's since he did post it and has been waiting patiently. Just a guess Grover, but Fisherman's Horizon?

Take care all.

[UltimateSpamGrover]

wrong game, Captain

[Rand Al'Tor]

Lindblum? (The tantalas, airships, can't make out the rest)

[The Captain]

Grover, what did you mean by this hint:

"CLUE: Boss in FFVIII" ?

Are you saying the answer has something to do with a boss from FFVIII?

Take care all.

[-N-]

Looks like I missed a bunch of good riddles (bunch = 1?). My internet was down the past few days; glad I was missed in a weird sort of way (feels special :p). Anyways, on to business...

The first part is the treasure that the man with the azure-shining eyes needed old love's help to find, and how HE would call that treasure that gave him strength to fight, when he was as weak as any hero has ever been.
The second part is the first part of one of the first darknesses, who was there long before the likes Seifer, Rufus, Kuja and and Seymour and whose fear-inspiring words are remembered and occasionally mocked for their inadequate translation.
The third part is but one letter, but it is the end of what in many final fantasies is the messenger of evil, the final form where wickedness takes flight.
The fourth part is the first part of a beast that replaced a beard and a bird.
The final part is one of those 'you often end a word with them' thingies, and it's bloody 2 AM here... I'm going to bed...
But before I forget, the whole is something that can return hope when defeat seems only a hair-breath away.

Mega Phoenix.
1. Me - Cloud, FFVII with Tifa.
2. Ga - Garland, from the first FF.
3. F ~ Ph - "F"inal boss or whatever, I guess
4. Oen - Griffon? Not really sure.
5. Suffix - take the "ix".

Honestly, the "whole" hint gave it all away, and then I saw the rest fall in place. Unsure of 3 and 4, though.

A town with a pirates base
which is linked to another AH
located on the sea
where I should not be

Where am I?
CLUE: Boss in FFVIII

What's AH supposed to mean?

[Rand Al'Tor]

Looks like I missed a bunch of good riddles (bunch = 1?). My internet was down the past few days; glad I was missed in a weird sort of way (feels special :p). Anyways, on to business...

The first part is the treasure that the man with the azure-shining eyes needed old love's help to find, and how HE would call that treasure that gave him strength to fight, when he was as weak as any hero has ever been.
The second part is the first part of one of the first darknesses, who was there long before the likes Seifer, Rufus, Kuja and and Seymour and whose fear-inspiring words are remembered and occasionally mocked for their inadequate translation.
The third part is but one letter, but it is the end of what in many final fantasies is the messenger of evil, the final form where wickedness takes flight.
The fourth part is the first part of a beast that replaced a beard and a bird.
The final part is one of those 'you often end a word with them' thingies, and it's bloody 2 AM here... I'm going to bed...
But before I forget, the whole is something that can return hope when defeat seems only a hair-breath away.

Mega Phoenix.
1. Me - Cloud, FFVII with Tifa.
2. Ga - Garland, from the first FF.
3. F ~ Ph - "F"inal boss or whatever, I guess
4. Oen - Griffon? Not really sure.
5. Suffix - take the "ix".

Honestly, the "whole" hint gave it all away, and then I saw the rest fall in place. Unsure of 3 and 4, though.

Sorry, wrong, though you're warm....

[UltimateSpamGrover]

It has something to do with a boss in FFVIII; and POD, AH means Auction House

[nik0tine]

It has something to do with a boss in FFVIII; and POD, AH means Auction House
Could it be the place where you fight ultima weapon? damn, i have forgotten what its called. Like mobile research center or something.

Also, it could be Balamb Garden. Oh! or it could be BGH251F2 (the big blue machine you fight at the missile base and in Fisherman's Horizon)
Am I even on the right track here?

[PhoenixAsh]

Rand Al'Tor, Megalixer

1) Me
2) Ga (Both as PoD said)
3) L (Kinda lost here)
4) ix (as in Ixion who replaced Ramuh and Valefor as the lightning summon)
5) er (just er)

Grover I think Daguerros (I can't remember the spelling) from FFIX, the clue revolves around the four-armed man.

A town with a pirates base (I haven't played IX in ages, I can't even remember pirates)
which is linked to another AH (He needs something from the Auction House in Treno I believe)
located on the sea (It's on an Isand)
where I should not be (He leaves once you learn his name)

Where am I?
CLUE: Boss in FFVIII (His name is Gilgamesh I think, as in Odin's replacement during the Seifer fight)

Though I'm suspiscious of this answer, I have a feeling it's actually from pre-FFVII.

[Rand Al'Tor]

Rand Al'Tor, Megalixer

[quote] 1) Me
2) Ga (Both as PoD said)
3) L (Kinda lost here)
4) ix (as in Ixion who replaced Ramuh and Valefor as the lightning summon)
5) er (just er)


CORRECT! The missing ones are 'angel' (as many bosses take an angelic form, henc ethe 'evil takes flight', and 'messenger')
Ixion is correct, but the bird referred to Quetzacotl (all lightning summons)

[PhoenixAsh]

Ugh, I had meant that it was Quetzacotl just got muddled. I'll leave the next riddle to whoever gets Grover's, time for me to give other people a chance for a while methinks.

[UltimateSpamGrover]

It relates to FFVIII, but not directly, and all of you are on the wrong FF

Clue: Look at my sig

[§håd0w]

which helps out a lot in bosses in FFVIII.....like Griever.........yeah, I got nothing....or do I :shifty:.........

Doesn't Greiver eliminate any summoned GF in that battle? Or am I thinking of when Ultimecia Junctions herself to Griever?

[Rase]

Current clues:
Involves FFXI
Is related to FFVIII, but not directly.

Well, since I haven't played FFXI, I guess I'mm out until the next riddle.

[PhoenixAsh]

I'm out too.... as I suspect will be a lot of people.

[-N-]

I'm out too, never played it, and I'm probably not going to buy it.

echo;

I was close on the Megalixir one - isn't hint five IR, not ER? MegalixIR, right?

[UltimateSpamGrover]

heres the answer, at least I stumped you guys! :D



A town with a pirates base (Norg)
which is linked to another AH (Bastok)
located on the sea (its on the sea)
where I should not be (high level area)

The answer is NORG

[Rase]

Next time, do a riddle where people who guess have actually played the FF. ;)

[UltimateSpamGrover]

Next time, do a riddle where people who guess have actually played the FF.


How did I know none of you guys played FFXI!?

[Rase]

Obviously you read our minds. ;)

Sorry, I forgot to type the ;) smilie. I was trying to multi-task. *edits*

[The Captain]

Alrighty-o, who shall go next? Shall Grover give us another riddle?

Take care all.

[-N-]

That's how it goes around these parts. :grover:

[UltimateSpamGrover]

someone else can take my place all I know at the moment are FFXI riddles

[-N-]

The main characters of each game from FFVII - FFX?
1. Cloud, FFVII, ex-"SOLDIER".
2. Squall, FFVIII, SeeD, took out Ultimecia's Castle.
3. Zidane, FFIX, rat-tailed joke of a person.
4. Tidus, FFX, guardian and blitzer.

[-N-]

Ah, the Dollet Tower. That makes sense. It wasn't so much an insult to Zidane as just trying to get him to fit within the words of the joke. He is an okay character, in my opinion.

I guess I gotta think up of one now - too many passes is no good.

One for the ladies,
Two for the man.
Three you fight but once,
Four you fight again.
Five once and only,
Six the most you'll see.
Seven means nothing,
But eight are the key.

If your arithmetic is sharp,
Then soon enough you'll see,
This property of their relationship
Is the answer you must give me.

[FFanatic Of FFantasy]

the amount of people u can have in battles and in the main group in ff8!
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mmmmmmmmm.......pancakes!

[-N-]

You're both about... oooh... 5% there. :)

[UltimateSpamGrover]

the amount of people in your party at a time in FFX (you can switch in-between them though)

or FFIV (5 people)

[-N-]

Grover's cracked one line - I'm gonna need a little more than that, though.

Doomsday: :p

[-N-]

How many characters you have is only one part of the riddle.

[UltimateSpamGrover]

does it have anything to do with the fact in FFV : its three females and one male in the party?

[-N-]

Not quite. I see why you're thinking that, but it's more personality-based than that.

[UltimateSpamGrover]

does it have to do with the love between Squall and Rinoa?

[-N-]

You're diverging from what you were doing right, though. The personality hint applies most to lines 1 and 2.

[The Captain]

This appears to be a toughie. We may need more general hints, to be frank.

Take care all.

[UltimateSpamGrover]

Cloud , Aeris, and Tifa relationship?

[-N-]

One for the ladies,
Two for the man.
Three you fight but once,
Four you fight again.
Five once and only,
Six the most you'll see.
Seven means nothing,
But eight are the key.

If your arithmetic is sharp,
Then soon enough you'll see,
This property of their relationship
Is the answer you must give me.
I'm finding it a little difficult to give away hints without giving away the answer to the riddle, but I'll try.

1. The number seven has no meaning at all in the riddle.
2. Each of these lines refer to something DIFFERENT.
3. The last four lines ask you to name some certain property that they all have in common.

I give three hints as I haven't been checking on this thread much lately.

[UltimateSpamGrover]

thery are all numbered Final Fantasies?

[-N-]

If that was so, then 7 would refer to FF7, instead of not referring to anything. (It's wrong.)

[UltimateSpamGrover]

well I give up (_ _)

[-N-]

Hint - the right answer has already been mentioned, but without enough support.

[UltimateSpamGrover]

just give the answer already, we're all stumped

[-N-]

I'm only doing this because it's the 500th post. :p

One for the ladies, (Edge, the ladies man)
Two for the man. (Palom and Porom helping Cecil)
Three you fight but once, (Magus Sisters)
Four you fight again. (Four Fiends)
Five once and only, (Only game with five people in party)
Six the most you'll see. (The most enemies you'll fight in a battle)
Seven means nothing,
But eight are the key. (Eight crystals to get to the Moon)

If your arithmetic is sharp,
Then soon enough you'll see,
This property of their relationship
Is the answer you must give me. (Give me the name of the game they're all from - FFIV)

Grover was closest, so he goes.

[The Captain]

Mighty, mighty tricky, but very well made riddle.

You're up Grover.

Take care all.

[UltimateSpamGrover]

All I give are FFXI riddles and you guys wont get them if I gave 100 million dollars to the winner, so I'll pass

[-N-]

If you did give 100 million dollars, I would buy FFXI and play it just to get the riddle...

[UltimateSpamGrover]

I'M PASSING if you like it or not

[-N-]

I'M PASSING if you like it or not:(

[Mossy]

Many big enemys you will fight to progress
Allthough to fight some a diversion must be taken
Only in one of the four gardens will you find him
Zap him and you'll have done very well

Don't do this riddle if you don't want to, no one had one going and I wanted to write one, so. :D
This is the first riddle i've written, so if it isn't very good I'm sorry!

[UltimateSpamGrover]

Norg from FF8?

[Mossy]

Norg from FF8?

Right idea, but wrong game!

[PhoenixAsh]

I'll guess Ozma from IX.

Many big enemys you will fight to progress (He's pretty big, and you do)
Allthough to fight some a diversion must be taken (He's not in the main story, and you have to fly to reach him)
Only in one of the four gardens will you find him (Forest, Water, Air and Paradise)
Zap him and you'll have done very well (He's the Super Boss for IX)

[Mossy]

I'll guess Ozma from IX.

Many big enemys you will fight to progress (He's pretty big, and you do)
Allthough to fight some a diversion must be taken (He's not in the main story, and you have to fly to reach him)
Only in one of the four gardens will you find him (Forest, Water, Air and Paradise)
Zap him and you'll have done very well (He's the Super Boss for IX)

You go, PhoenixAsh! Correct! But did you also see that there was

M
A
O
Z
?

Rearrange and......ta da!!!

If I can give points too I'll give you.....three of these! :choc: :choc: :choc:

[UltimateSpamGrover]

Phoenix Ash you're up :crying2: :weep: :crying: :boohoo: :grumble:

[PhoenixAsh]

Haha, sorry forgot about that *hordes chocobos*. Okay I don't have time to get too creative, but I'll see what I can do.

A fallen ally then a fallen enemy,
Falling allies then fallen enemies.
A fallen leader but not for long,
Three then fall but is one gone?
Four shall fall if four are there,
Just who falls next and should we care?

Okay I'll give one clue, this is specific to THREE FFs and for a reason, this one could be a bit easy but we'll see...

[Mossy]

Hmmm....I only really know ff's 6 (tho haven't finished it....) to x-2, so not sure if I could get this one.

[Mossy]

Haha, sorry forgot about that *hordes chocobos*. Okay I don't have time to get too creative, but I'll see what I can do.

A fallen ally then a fallen enemy,
Falling allies then fallen enemies.
A fallen leader but not for long,
Three then fall but is one gone?
Four shall fall if four are there,
Just who falls next and should we care?

Okay I'll give one clue, this is specific to THREE FFs and for a reason, this one could be a bit easy but we'll see...

Trying to think of allys who become enemys....

Seifer?
Shuyin-you think he's Tidus, then have to stop him
Edea?
Seymour
Jecht
Brahne?

Aaaarg! *iz confuddled*

[UltimateSpamGrover]

A fallen ally then a fallen enemy, (Aeris/Galuf)
Falling allies then fallen enemies.
A fallen leader but not for long, (Cloud/Terra)
Three then fall but is one gone? (Aeris)
Four shall fall if four are there,
Just who falls next and should we care? (Sephiroth)

...

I know its only 1-2 different FFs but thats what I can only come up with

[PhoenixAsh]

Mossy I'm not saying if you did or didn't get the answer there, but don't randomly guess names because you'll get the same response again.

Grover, sorry no.

[Mossy]

Hmmmm.....those weren't exactly answers, I woz just putting things down.........

[-N-]

Haha, sorry forgot about that *hordes chocobos*. Okay I don't have time to get too creative, but I'll see what I can do.

A fallen ally then a fallen enemy,
Falling allies then fallen enemies.
A fallen leader but not for long,
Three then fall but is one gone?
Four shall fall if four are there,
Just who falls next and should we care?

Okay I'll give one clue, this is specific to THREE FFs and for a reason, this one could be a bit easy but we'll see...

1. FFIV - Kain
2. FFVI - Kefka killing Leo then Gestahl, or WoR in general
3. FFVII - Cloud
4. FFIV - Edward, Yang, Cid; Tellah gone
5. FFVI - Only FF with variable member amount
6. FFVII - Sephiroth, and yes

Cycle - IV, VI, VII.

[UltimateSpamGrover]

is it the Spell Mega-Death?

Just my 2K

[PhoenixAsh]

PoD as usual gets the idea, but sadly the wrong three games, it's also slightly more specifically written than that.

Sorry Grover, way off.

[-N-]

PoD as usual gets the idea, but sadly the wrong three games, it's also slightly more specifically written than that.:x_x: That's what you get for not playing FF's in ages...

[PhoenixAsh]

Okay the answer to the riddle isn't which three FFs it's from, and there is a structure to the way it's written.

[Rusty]

Ok seeing the answer isn't which three FF's its talking about. I'll takeshot at who fall's next. This is not just a guess, I have tried to think this thorugh.

Is it Tidus?

[PhoenixAsh]

Sorry, nope.

Getting the answer will require the riddle to be looked at properly, so I recommend explaining your answers. That and I may not say yes without an explanation :D.

[UltimateSpamGrover]

why do you torture us? Why?

Just my 2K.

[Mossy]

A fallen ally then a fallen enemy,
Falling allies then fallen enemies. (This could be something to do with FFX- people who aren't sent turning into fiends)
A fallen leader but not for long, (This could be about Cloud when he falls into the Lifestream and looses himself)
Three then fall but is one gone? (Could this have to do with Auron Jecht and Braska? They all kinda fall, though Auron only get's sent later....and so does Jecht....)
Four shall fall if four are there, ( I agree with whoever said this has to do with an FF where you have 4 chars in battle eg FF9)
Just who falls next and should we care?

*gives up in frustration!!!!*

[UltimateSpamGrover]

Phoenix Ash I hope you die a slow, painful death. (just kidding)

Just my 2K

[Rusty]

This is getting painful...*goes and tries to figure it out again...*

[PhoenixAsh]

You know you've all been stuck on my riddles before, and you've seen the explanations, you should know I use punctuation to help a lot.

[-N-]

How about I just sidestep the whole figuring out which FFs, figure out which game line three is from, and then fit that to line 6 (assuming of course the pattern is a three-game cycle repeated twice)? :D

So since apparently line 3 is not Cloud from FFVII, and there are no other FFs with such a situation save FFIX and possibly FFVI (although it's arguable there's no real leader in FFVI), I'd go with Zidane from FFIX in Pandemonium, which means Garland falls next, and uh, we should care, because Garland was cool.

[PhoenixAsh]

What did I say about punctuation? Come on PoD you know my riddles well enough to figure out what pattern I'm using.

Guess I'll give another clue. There is a VERY important reason I only used three FF's, and it isn't due to plot relations. Line 5 has been partly cracked, but it's a lot more specific than what's been got so far.

[-N-]

D'oh - didn't see that. That requires figuring out Line 4 or Line 5, which are weirder. :x_x:

[PhoenixAsh]

*Is unsure as to whether you understood the pattern or not, but has faith*

You know you could stop trying to cheat and actually look at the whole riddle. I don't write pointless lines very often that I remember, in fact I was fairly tight on how much I wrote, I SHOULD have written more lines than I did if I was doing the riddle to it's full extent.

[-N-]

:( Write more lines, then! :p

Holy shit lines 5 and 6 could be referring to how you have four members in your party while Kain is jumping in the air, and he would be the person that falls next from the sky, as he's jumping. That's more specific than the other explanations given so far...

Lines 3 and 4 could refer to Cloud, Tifa, and Aeris all leaving the party in FFVII; Aeris permanently.

Lines 1 and 2 then, could refer to something in FFX, since the pattern would be 4-7-10, or rather, 10-7-4. The difference by three goes along with three different FFs. I hope the pattern is 10-10-7-7-4-4? :riiight:

So that would make my answer Kain, and yes, we should care, because Kain is awesome.

[PhoenixAsh]

You're starting to go along the right lines of thinking, I don't want to add the other lines because they wouldn't work so well, but there should be more.
Two clues, first there is a VERY strict structure to how this riddle is written, no line is irrelevant or could be moved. Remember what I said, the reason I chose three FFs is not due to their plots, and line five was almost solved.
Another big clue is to pay attention to the exact wording of line two.

[Mossy]

A fallen ally then a fallen enemy,
Falling allies then fallen enemies.
A fallen leader but not for long,
Three then fall but is one gone?
Four shall fall if four are there,
Just who falls next and should we care?

Do you mind if I put up ideas, even when I'm not having a stab at solving the riddle?

PoD, what you said about Kain is cool, and there's another char that does that-Freya.

The exact wording of line two is fallING allies and fallEN enemies, right? So maybe your talking about the two charactes that jump in battle, later to land on their foes? So maybe line two refers to Kain, Freya, and anyone else who does that kinda stuff.

EDIT: Is this riddle about the different stlyes of attack FF characters have? Like the first line could be about someone who Ko's themself to take out an enemy?

[UltimateSpamGrover]

I give, see you all next year

Just my 2K

[PhoenixAsh]

Sorry Mossy, excellent thinking, but no. You did well with line two but made the wrong interpretation.

Okay I'll give a clue, the FFs involved are consecutive, and that's very important in getting the answer. Another clue is while the lines are linked, each line is about something different.

[Rusty]

Having a stab in the dark here and posting a few ideas, bear with me :)

Is line one suggesting that a fallen ally become a fallen enemy later on?

Falling allies then fallen enemies. I have always thought this line refered to Galbadia garden. It was falling because Galbadia and the Sorceress wanted to use and abuse it. There fallen enemies due to the battle between the two gardens. There were enemies after Seifer and the galbadians soldiers took it over and started ramming Balamb. And they fell because they lost.

I'm still stuck on the rest :)

[PhoenixAsh]

Hmmmm, riddles seem to be getting less people trying to solve them these days. Guess I'll have to reveal the answer too.

As I said several times the fact that there was only three FFs and not for plot reasons was important. Three consecutive FFs aswell. The link, multiple discs. Obviously more needed, but that gets the answer.

A fallen ally then a fallen enemy, (Aeris, then Jenova)
Falling allies then fallen enemies. (Big clue with falling, parachute drop then Proud Clod, Hojo etc.)
A fallen leader but not for long, (Squall's recovery from Edea's ice attack)
Three then fall but is one gone? (Edea, Seifer and Rinoa who goes into a coma)
Four shall fall if four are there, (Beatrix wipes ut your party, but Quina isn't neccessarily in it)
Just who falls next and should we care? (So end of disc two, FFIX, the answer is Brahne)

[Rase]

Dang, I'd have NEVER gotten that. You, my good sir, a a dang good riddler.

[UltimateSpamGrover]

Dang, I'd have NEVER gotten that. You, my good sir, a a dang good riddler.

Just my 2K.

[Rase]

So I guess Phoenix goes again. Let's see if we can't figure out this next one.

[PhoenixAsh]

Heh thanks for the praise. Think I'll let someone else go for now, riddle threads are losing momentum and I don't think people care enough to solve mine at the moment :D.

[Rase]

Okay, let me see if I can get a good one out.

Always there when it's needed,
Never late, always prompt,
But only if you have enough.
Not there at the beginning,
But now that they are here,
They'll stay untill the end.

This might pale in comparison to PhoenixAsh's, but oh well...

[PhoenixAsh]

Okay I've been thinking about this and hoping some people would guess, but the thread seems to be dieing...

This could probably twist for a few things, but I'll guess chocobos.

Always there when it's needed,
Never late, always prompt,
But only if you have enough. (This sounds like the way of calling them with greens in FFIX)
Not there at the beginning,
But now that they are here,
They'll stay untill the end. (They only came into the series a few in, and now they're not likely to be left out.)

[Rase]

Nope, but a good guess.

[Takara]

I'm going to guess Summons.

Always there when it's needed, You can always summon them from a good monster/boss ass-whooping. :p
Never late, always prompt, Well, it might take a little time to summon them, but you usually know how long it will take and it rarely takes longer than expected for them to appear.
But only if you have enough. In most FFs, you need MP to summon them.
Not there at the beginning, The summoner class, and incidentally summons, appeared first in FFIII.
But now that they are here,
They'll stay untill the end. They've become as much of a trademark
of FF as Chocobos and Cid.

[Rase]

Takara has found the answer. You may now create your own riddle. Yay!

[UltimateSpamGrover]

T-A-K-A-R-A, you're up

[Takara]

Patience, butterfly. :) I only answered yesterday.

Anyway, here's the riddle.

You come seeking my guidance,
Yet I am not who you thought I'd be.
I may seem helpless at times
But to not underestimate me;
Rumours say I'm the fifth.

Who am I?

[Necronopticous]

Okay this _Really_ sounds alot like Regent Cid from Final Fantasy IX to me, the only thing is he's the sixth Cid in the series, I just want to make sure it's not Regent Cid so I can get my mind off of it hahaha

[Takara]

Nope, it's not Regent Cid. :)

[UltimateSpamGrover]

Is it Krile from FFV?

[Dearest Tragedy]

Guido?

You come seeking my guidance, (yep)
Yet I am not who you thought I'd be. (Not expecting a turtle)
I may seem helpless at times (He's a freakin turtle)
But to not underestimate me; (He attacks Ex-Death)
Rumours say I'm the fifth (Uh...Warrior of the Dawn? Ninja Turtle?)

[PhoenixAsh]

I'll follow Necronopticous' logic and say Cid from FFVIII, as he would therefore be the fifth. Also the first parts of the riddle remind me of Squall's review of him in the missile attack, and his relationship with Edea.

[Takara]

Dearest Tragedy got the answer. It was Guido, AKA the Fifth Ninja Turtle. :D

[Dearest Tragedy]

Yay yay :D

First as a pawn,
Then as a leader,
Then a fighter.
Absent once,
Before returning (in triplicate!).
Absent twice more,
Then showing up again (though in name only).
Once again a comrade (but technically...not),
Before going missing again.

[UltimateSpamGrover]

Shadow? (FFVI)

[PhoenixAsh]

From the way the riddles written, my guess is each line refers to consecutive FFs, however I've only played three that whatever the answer isn't missing from (1, 8 and 9). From them I want to say the monk class, as 9 sounds like Amarant to me, and theres an item in VIII called a Monk's Code if I remember.

If this is the right approach I suspect playing FFV will help a lot.

[Dearest Tragedy]

No to Grover (I think I already replied to his post yesterday, but my post disappeared? :confused: ) and no to PhoenixAsh, though your reasoning is on the right track.

And I'm going to be gone this weekend, so I'll answer any more guesses by Sunday evening Atlantic time.

[UltimateSpamGrover]

its past Thursday XD, could you give us the answer now?

Just my 2K.

[Dearest Tragedy]

Uh, just out of curiosity, why didn't anyone try to answer my riddle? :cry:

Anyway, the answer was the various princesses in the games.

First as a pawn, (Sara in FFI was a pawn of Garland)
Then as a leader, (Hilda in II led the Rebel Army)
Then a fighter. (Sarah was a fighter in III, right? I haven't played this one.)
Absent once, (No princesses in IV)
Before returning (in triplicate!). (Princesses Lenna, Faris, and Krile in V)
Absent twice more, (No princesses in VI or VII)
Then showing up again (though in name only). (Rinoa's nickname was princess in VIII)
Once again a comrade (but technically...not), (Princess Garnet in IX joined your party, but technically she was not the real Princess Garnet)
Before going missing again. (No princesses in X)

Apparently no one liked my riddle, so sorry. Anyone can post a new one.

[PhoenixAsh]

I did actually like it, and seeing it explained in full it was cleverer than I expected, I just hadn't played enough FFs to guess very well.

[Rase]

I like your riddle, as it was extremely well thought out. Don't feel bad if no one tried it doesn't mean no one tried. I tried, but I couldn't think of anything and didn't want to make a spam post. Anyway, I guess the next ones up for grabs, although this thread looks like it may have run its course.

[UltimateSpamGrover]

Celes in FFVI was the princess of the empire, thats why I didnt get your riddle.

[Black Roses]

Can i make a riddle?

i no i didn't answer any at all...but..yeah
this is it- u needn't answer if you must

you find me in a secret way
in a place of not-so-fond memories,
i am dark but i can be trusted

i only fight from afar
but if you trigger my pain,
i will show you a berzerked fury

this fury is a product of someone i hate
who went of with my love

name the 3 char.s that are associated with the riddle

[Dante WolfWood]

umm...

Vincent (the person your talking about)
HoJo (the man vincent hates who went with his woman)
lucrecia (the woman)

am I right?

[Black Roses]

Dante u r correct!
that was kinda ez i thought...

[Dante WolfWood]

well, I'm trying to think of one right now, but I havent always been a good riddle creator...if any1 has a riddle, then plz, be my guest.

[Dragon Ash]

hate to jump in here, but i hav a riddle. oh and i'd like some credit for reading this entire thread (all 571 posts... please kill me!)

I know this world so well,
But my time has past.
All your stories; I can tell
But you'll never know my own.

(tried to do the rhyming thing but gave up!)

it would make me really happy if you guys could pretend to be stumped for all of, ooh, 2 seconds? please?!

Hmm... looking over it, it mite b a bit vague but i'll happily post hints!

[~SilverWings~]

Hey, well done skye! *Pats skye on back*

I used to do that but mweh......waaaaaaay too many to read.

Btw, it's me, Mossy, i ain't copied the siggy. My compy wasn't signed in as me and I can't figure out the password :confused: :tongue:

[~SilverWings~]

Wild guess but umm...

The Fayth?

EDIT: I'm stumped!

[Dragon Ash]

nope but good try

i'll post a hint or two tomorrow if no-one gets it in the meantime