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Gregoriev
11-30-2004, 12:48 AM
From what i can gather, starting with FF8+ or maybe FF9+ they got into some kind of stranger than FF naming scheme for the games.

so i really need to know, which is the best FF overall with the best graphics, best gameplay, and maybe some online support, voice com would be cool!

NOTE: I know virtually nothing about FF on the PS2, in fact, i wont even own one until after christmas.

CloudSquallandZidane
11-30-2004, 01:30 AM
Might need to go to General FF or Square Enix forum.

But to answer the question i think that VIII is the best to start off with, seeing as how it has the hardest junctioning system etc. So if u can play VIII well then i found the other FF's are less of a challenge since their systems are much simpler. But if u go for 8 play around alittle bit to make sure u get the hang of it.

Black Mage FF1
11-30-2004, 02:04 AM
From what i can gather, starting with FF8+ or maybe FF9+ they got into some kind of stranger than FF naming scheme for the games.

so i really need to know, which is the best FF overall with the best graphics, best gameplay, and maybe some online support, voice com would be cool!

NOTE: I know virtually nothing about FF on the PS2, in fact, i wont even own one until after christmas.


Only 1 FF game has online support and that is FFXI and I suggest that you dont get that, unless you want to spend like $150 to play.

If graphics and voice com is all you really care about then you should get FFX. The top 5 FF games IMO

1. FF1
2. FF6
3. FFT
4. FFX
5. FF4

mike without a hat
11-30-2004, 02:05 AM
The only online FF is 11, the rest are all single player.

VincentcerebruS
11-30-2004, 02:33 AM
well, wehn you say "best graphics" you do have to count that some games were released in 97' or 93' so u now.... anyhoo these are the best ff games:
1-FFVII
2-FFVIII
3-FFX
4-FFXI online
5-6

And as squere games they are:
Chrono Cross
Parasite (all of them)
and i liked star ocean till the end of time :)

Auronhart
11-30-2004, 04:31 AM
FFVIII's graphics are good enough (the cut scenes are very well done) and the rest of the game is awesome, though as CSZ said, the system could be a bit harder to understand if you are just starting out. However, if you just read the tutorials and everything you should be fine. If you only really care about graphics though, X does a very good job of them. (The rest of X was still very good, just the rest of the aspects are about one step worse than VIII) I would say that in the case of someone starting out, the "the game was made 10 years ago" arguments don't make too much difference. (unless they were playing them then)

XxSephirothxX
11-30-2004, 11:17 PM
If you're just getting into gaming now, you'll probably dislike the older titles because they can't stand up to the graphics of games released today. But, if PS1 3D graphics don't bother you, and you like 2D graphics, then definitely play FFVI and FFIX. Those are my two favorites, and definitely have awesome stories. They're more fantasy based than some of the others, too. If you're looking for a more modern-esque game, go for FFVII. It's dark, gritty, and has horrible graphics on the surface. But if you can get past that, you'll realize that it's an incredible game. Avoid FFVIII, IMO. And if you're obsessed with pretty graphics over gameplay and story ( :mad2: ) then go with FFX.

Gregoriev
12-07-2004, 02:46 AM
the made 10 years ago arguments are not valid. "we don't like yer kind 'round these parts"

i need GOOD 3d. like...that one with the three hot chicks. one with pistols, one with swords, and the other with...hell i don't even know what she did...that one looks good, even if the plot seems to have to do with tapes they have to collect of themselves...or something (i don't know what it's called, so i have not researched it at all.)

also: The so called greated RPG franchise has just one MMRPG title? that sucks....

now, i am sorry i was not very specific in the begining. but i need good titles for the PS2. i dont give a damn that FFIV was cool, that's ps1, and it does not look pretty.

CABOOSE: We are in the future. Things are really shiney now...

Azure Chrysanthemum
12-07-2004, 03:04 AM
I'll spare you my rant about newbie gamers who are spoiled and couldn't recognize depth if it came up and bit them on the %$#.

Get Final Fantasy X-2, it's obvious that's the game you're looking for...

Martyr
12-07-2004, 04:13 AM
6 and 7.

Get them both.

8 is goofy, long, unfulfilling, and the story is sloppy.
9, 10, X-2 (Whatever) - it's all extra cash that Square (Enix?) makes off the hoardes of morons who were caught up in the Final Fantasy Craze that clamped an iron grip on the industry with VI and VII (Which, by the way, happen to be the games I suggest that you get and play)

FF1 is my favorite. It saved Square from extinction. But, thinking pragmatically, despite how grand the game is in my eyes, there is only nostalgia there and probably nothing for you.

If you like Old School, then 6 is your game. Lots of people like 4, but I like 5 better.

You should probably get that PS set with 5 and 6 (Is that right? or is it 4 and 5 and then 6 and CT? I don't recall. But one of those'll work fine, FF7 notwithstanding.)

Azure Chrysanthemum
12-07-2004, 04:27 AM
I don't think suggesting Final Fantasy VII will work in this case. (http://forums.eyesonff.com/showthread.php?t=52796)

DJZen
12-08-2004, 02:53 AM
FFMQ hands down

Necronopticous
12-08-2004, 03:22 AM
Final Fantasy X is probably the best Final Fantasy to start out on, whenever I introduce a friend to the series I always start with X. It's a well rounded game in all areas, it's beautiful, has voices, is easy to pick up and understand, and very user friendly. I got my ex-girlfriend into the series and I did it in this order:

Final Fantasy X > Final Fantasy VII > Final Fantasy IX > Final Fantasy VIII

Next I will suggest that she plays Final Fantasy VI.

Martyr
12-08-2004, 03:37 AM
FFMQ hands down

I actually liked that game. A lot.

The only reason I wouldn't suggest it is that it is hardly anything like any other FF game.
In fact, without the FF title, it would probably be praised instead of bashed.

ApocalypticLeon
12-08-2004, 04:19 AM
Final Fantasy VIII was a great game and the second one I played. Does anyone remember FF1 on NES? Thats what got me hooked. But, if you NEED the good graphics, then you should go with X.

~Zodiac~
12-08-2004, 05:47 PM
I would say:

- FFVII --> From this point on the community of FF really grew Intesively! You gotta play this one first.
- FFT --> Although not a REAL part of the FF series, I still highly recommend it (If you like turn based Strategy-RPGs)
- FFVIII --> The card game rocks ^_^
- FFV --> If you like the job system in FFT, you'll like this one too.
- FFX(-2) --> Also great game since it's graphics are great :)

DJZen
12-08-2004, 06:37 PM
I actually liked that game. A lot.

The only reason I wouldn't suggest it is that it is hardly anything like any other FF game.
In fact, without the FF title, it would probably be praised instead of bashed.

If you can play and appreciate FFMQ, chances are you'll be able to appreciate the other FF games. If you can't, chances are you'll like FFVII a lot.

NashX
12-09-2004, 04:41 PM
FFX is nice and easy to get you going. Then, when you go all retro, things start to hot up. Take care with the reeeeaaaally old ones, 'cos they have a tendency to depress (me, anyway).

Faris
12-09-2004, 04:45 PM
The only online FF is 11, the rest are all single player.
That's untrue there is an option in most PS1 Ff's, were you can let player1 and player2 choose wich character they want to (ie: pl1:zidane,garnet pl2: vivi freya)

NashX
12-09-2004, 04:59 PM
Well, he did say online, y'know.

Gregoriev
12-09-2004, 08:39 PM
I swear...how dense are some of you?

I said ps2, i even clarified that in an earlier post! i need GOOD graphics, FF8 looks okay from screen shots, but i am getting a ps2 soon, and want to know what is the shiznaight of the FF games to get.

the online one, altough very tempting, is still online...and you have to pay for it. i don't do pay to play. although it looks really neat and i love the GMR articles in each issue about the guy who just plays it so he can write the article for GMR.

FFX-2 seems neat...what is the story about and is it good? i can's get a decent overview of it, let alone a detailed summary.

Martyr
12-09-2004, 09:19 PM
http://www.eyesonff.com/ff10-2/story.shtml

Will that help?

But honestly, it's bad forum manners to call us dense.

Many of us are of the opinion that the recent FF games are, well, lacking.

If I suggest FFVII, it isn't because I'm dense. It's because I don't feel like giving you what I would call bad advice.

If you know what you want, get it.

Gregoriev
12-10-2004, 01:34 AM
I am sorry if i offended anyone with some or all of the things i said. In real life i do use those phrases sometimes, but always in a funny way that makes everyone laugh due to both tone and sutuation.

Online it is impossible to convey those things, which is why i regret in hind sight for not seeing my language as degrading and insulting.

Henceforth I shall be more vidulant to the usage of far more proper and formal speech.

Now back on topic, i will be sure to read that website you gave me. THanks alot! It's so hard to find stuff sometimes, especially on alot of rare things like in depth story guides and things like that.

Then again i just suck at searching. I cannot find even a handful of pics of ouka (the wolf chick picture that is my avatar) using google.

DJZen
12-10-2004, 02:22 AM
You should ask Jeeves about netiquette sometime. I think you would find it very helpful when it comes to trying to communicate without getting everyone to be angry at you.

As far as "modern" games with "good graphics" (and that's a COMPLETELY subjective thing, I'd like to add. I have a fondness for 8-bit graphics, for example), your best bet is FFXII or FFX-2. FFX has moments of great graphics, but it likes to follow those up with moments of questionable animation. I would suggest FF Origins, but I have a feeling your comment would be something like "OMG THIS GAME SUCKS!!!! IT'S IN 2D WHICH SUCKS!!!!!! THERE'S NO SUMMONS!!!!! IT SUXXXXX!!!!! I HATE THIS GAME!!!!!!!!" and then put it down after 15 minutes of play.

Del Murder
12-11-2004, 06:26 AM
Patronizing someone is just as bad, even worse when it right after their apology.

Gregoriev, the only PS2 FF games out now are X, X-2, and XI. XI is online only, and X-2 is a sequel to X, so your best bet is to start with X. Try and give it some time, though, because most of these later games are an acquired taste.

Gregoriev
12-17-2004, 06:10 PM
Alright, thank you.

i will be sure to pick up X, then X-II. i have MMRPG games based on leveling that make you pay to play. they are really gay to me because anyone better than you is not genuinly better than you as in more skilled, they just paid alot more money and wasted alot more of their time.

i just want a modern FF to try out, alot of people play it and i want to see what's it's all about. i tried FF7, but it is not to my tastes. i need at least decent graphics, which it is my understanding i will be getting in this PS2 FF game.

Thank you very much for you recomondations.

and one last thing: I don't need to be insulted right after i apologize. you had pleanty of time to read my apology post, and you are just more of an ass by stating such things.

DJZen
12-17-2004, 09:23 PM
Okay, fine, I'll rephrase. I WOULD suggest Final Fantasy Origins, but I don't think you'd like it based on your previous comments and comments from other threads.

I'm also going to suggest keeping your eyes open for FFXII news. It's not gonna be released for a while but I think it might be to your liking.

Gregoriev
12-18-2004, 12:26 AM
wait...FF 11? or FF12?

what's going to be released soon? They definatly should have kept with the same naming sceme of increasing numbers...i mean really, you know what X2 is!? 12 that's what!

names are supposed to be simple...stupid square.

but thanks for the recomondation, i will keep my eye out for XII...or 12...or...i need to check google on this...

turnitup5000db
01-09-2005, 11:53 AM
Ok, seriously, dude. If you're gonna play an FF game, graphics are the LAST thing to look at. Honest. I'm not playing. I mean, look at some of the newer games that have great graphics, but don't even come close to standing up to the classics. I mean, christ on a crutch, rpg graphics are only supposed to be good in the battle sequences, and even then they really don't NEED it. What you need in ANY Rpg, whether its Final Fantasy, or Chrono Trigger/Cross, or even something like Zelda or Diablo, is good gameplay/mechanics and a solid story. Without that, you're just oogling computer generated "pixels". Anyhow, its still up to you. If you want a GOOD game, try FF7, FF6, FF4(not quite as good - story is great but the translation sux...), or Chrono Trigger. If you want a PRETTY game, try FFX, FFX-2 or FFXII when it comes out. And FYI, FFX-2 is the sequil to FFX, whereas FFXII is just another final fantasy.