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Yuffie514
01-27-2005, 05:31 PM
FF8's Omega Weapon is definitely no pushover. he's by far, the toughest Weapon i ever faced...

Alexander
01-27-2005, 06:08 PM
FF8's Omega Weapon is definitely no pushover. he's by far, the toughest Weapon I ever faced...

I agree.

And don't come with that thing "Wimpy Omega is easier than Ultima" because it ISN'T >_<

CloudVII
01-27-2005, 07:23 PM
I just started FF8, but FF10's Omega was easier than those Egyptian Pillar things in Omega Dungeon.

ChaosCalibur
01-27-2005, 07:57 PM
Ruby makes me cry :crying2: Omega was pretty easy though...

Shoden
01-27-2005, 08:58 PM
Ruby and Emerald where easy they were pushovers to inexperienced players all you need is the right materia equipped and your done.

i think Omega weapon from 8 X s weapons where so easy they shouldnt even hold the names of weapon plus they looked crap bad animation design for them

Sepho
01-27-2005, 10:06 PM
Omega (FF8), Ruby, and Emerald all require preparation to overcome, and not much more. You have to be prepared in different ways for Omega and FF7's Weapons, and it's not easy to determine which Weapon is most difficult. It definitely takes more preparation to beat Ruby and Emerald, so by that line of thought, I suppose they're more difficult.

I found Ozma from FF9 to be a more challenging fight then any Weapon, though.

Yuffie514
01-27-2005, 10:10 PM
i think Omega weapon from 8 X s weapons where so easy they shouldnt even hold the names of weapon plus they looked crap bad animation design for them

i don't seem to think so. he's the strongest and best looking of all the Weapons i've experienced.

rubah
01-27-2005, 11:27 PM
Omega from ff5. Or shinryu if he counts.

*shrugs* I haven't gotten the initiative to fight emerald in ff7 (or all the stuff in preparation either) and I'm tired of waiting for ultima to finish his stupid flying, and obviously I haven't tried ruby either.

Omega Weapon a la ff8 was rather difficult, I mean, it wasn't difficult because I only ever did it once with holy wars +invincible moon to see what the proof of omega was like. Ultima weapon was incrediably easy though. I had to keep refighting him because I kept forgetting to draw eden. at level 100 even.

The first time I played ffx omega and ultima weapons were like 'omgomgomg ;_;;;;;;;;;' and I was like '@.x YOU LIE' when my friend said he thought they were just another fiend.

But in my second game I found out just how right he was.

It's sad how easy they are in x-2 though:/

Kawaii Ryűkishi
01-27-2005, 11:55 PM
Omega from ff5. Or shinryu if he counts.Neither of those guys are Weapons.

CloudVII
01-28-2005, 05:37 AM
Cuz 10 was first first FF besides some very limited ff7, where i was somewhat introduced to weapons, and i to counsel my friend because of his hate towards ruby, I thought Omega weapon was gunna be incredibly tough, i buffed up everyone to near 99999 everytime, but little did i know he doest even have that much hp... so i overkilled. him with tidus first round.....

Slade
01-28-2005, 09:19 AM
Omega Weapon from FF8 was the hardest for me. Hes pretty easy if you use holy wars but without.....sheesh thats all i can say. Hes extremely hard. Next up would be the Emerald Weapon. followed by Ruby. The weapons from X were too easy.....but i guess they had to be since there is no save points near them.

turnitup5000db
01-28-2005, 09:32 AM
This may be a bit off topic, but did the giant of bab-il from FFIV resemble a weapon to anyone else? If so, I would go with that, because going inside that POS involved a lot of fighting some reletively tough normal dudes plus a few bosses.

Ultima Shadow
01-28-2005, 02:41 PM
Oh, crap... I just felt like quoting almost everyone who have been posting in this tread. :p

I agree.

And don't come with that thing "Wimpy Omega is easier than Ultima" because it ISN'T >_<
I dissagree. And wimpy Omega actually IS easier than Ultima when fought at level 100.

Ruby and Emerald where easy they were pushovers to inexperienced players all you need is the right materia equipped and your done.

i think Omega weapon from 8 X s weapons where so easy they shouldnt even hold the names of weapon plus they looked crap bad animation design for them
You forgot to set a "." after "8" and therefore Yuffie514 missunderstood you.

i don't seem to think so. he's the strongest and best looking of all the Weapons i've experienced.
He means that Omega in FF8 was the hardest and the the Weapons in FFX are easy and looks like crap. I agree with his comment about the FFX Weapons but I dissagree about Omega in FF8. And yes... Omega from FF8 is the "strongest" when it comes to HP and powerfull attacks... however... that doesn't make him harder than some of the other Weapons... and Ultima Weapon actually have higher "stats" (str, mag, spr etc) at level 100... except HP, ofcourse.

*cough*Omega is easier than Ultima*cough*
Wise spoken and I completely agree!!! :D



It's sad how easy they are in x-2 though:/
Yes... in FFX and FFX2 they are so weak that I want to cry... :whimper:

Neither of those guys are Weapons.
Well... Shinryuu is absolutely not a Weapon... but I'm not sure about Omega. Sure... in FFV his name is just "Omega" and not "Omega Weapon" but I still think they are meant to be the same... in that case I would agree that Omega from FFV is the hardest... by far. But if not... well... then either Ruby or Emerald I guess... or maybe Ultima Weapon from FF8... :p

Omega Weapon from FF8 was the hardest for me. Hes pretty easy if you use holy wars but without.....sheesh thats all i can say. Hes extremely hard.
No, he isn't. And right now I almost think it's easier for me to beat him without hero or holy wars... since those items just annoys me and makes me lose my focus. :p
Just do it like this:
1) Level5 Death= 100Death on statsdef= you survive.
2) Meteor= Make sure you heal your characters hp after this attack. Everyone should have 9999 HP.
3) Megidoflame= Everyone survives with 1 HP left. After this attack... either heal or use the Defend command with your characters.
4) Gravia= If all your characters defended and only have 1 HP, then they won't take any dammage at all. Even if Omega will use his normal attack... your defending characters won't take any dammage.
5) Terrabreak= Defending characters will take 0 dammage from every hit. Pice of cake.
6) Now you just need to heal a bit. If your characters still only have 1 HP... use a megaelexir or something. Omega will use the magic "Ultima" which shouldn't cause too much trouble.
7) Light Pillar= Just revive the killed character with "Full Life"
8) Repeat. I just described how to survive... but all you need to do is use aura and trow in a few limmitbreaks every once and then. That's up to you.
I have personaly defeated Omega Weapon from FF8 blindfolded... and also by using Squall only + no Lionheart or hero-items... AND I have also defeated Omega without any stats effecting junctioning... only commands like "Item", "Defend" and "GF" etc. Now... I think that's reason enough for me to not call him hard. :tongue:

Del Murder
01-30-2005, 05:19 PM
Blindfolded?

I also say Omega from FFVIII is the hardest. I guess he's easy with Ultima's strategy, but for all the others I've never needed to come up with a strategy. That makes him the hardest.

Ultima Shadow
01-30-2005, 06:06 PM
Blindfolded?

That's right:

1) Make sure you know where you placed the different commands.
2) Make sure you really remember them.
3) Turn on the sound at pretty high volume. (the sound effects tells whitch attacks that are used)
4) Start the battle, pause as soon as the battle screen appears, cover your eyes with something so that you can see absolutely nothing, pick up the controller, un-pause the game and start the battle. :)

I've defeated Ultimecia this way as well.

Sepho
01-31-2005, 02:39 AM
I have to come to the conclusion that Ultima Shadow operates on an entirely different plane of logic then the majority of us.

Not a bad thing - it's just an explanation for his tendency to want to make things harder for himself (which simply could not be understood by me prior to coming up with the aforementioned theory).

For the record, I'm just joshin' ya.

Ultima Shadow
01-31-2005, 04:07 PM
I have to come to the conclusion that Ultima Shadow operates on an entirely different plane of logic then the majority of us.

Yes, however... there's still a few who share my point of view! :love:

turnitup5000db
02-01-2005, 09:34 AM
Now tell me... just how many of those that share your point of view are NOT based in your imagination. (Just teasin) I repeat what I said in my above post and stand by it.

ShunNakamura
02-01-2005, 11:30 AM
Oh boy I think I'll have to try that Blind fold trick, then again I dont' even know if I fought omega on my first and only time through 8... hmm... maybe... maybe not. All well ultimecia was wimp and if omega is weaker then I feel sorry for him.

The only weapon that has been mentioned that I have fought but not beat is Omega from FF 5. he beat me up idiscrimatory... of course after giving up and looking at a faq on how to beat him I saw I was well below lvl and classes and I was to lazy to go back and level. meh... laziness is annoying.

RedCydranth
02-01-2005, 02:41 PM
Hardest weapon? Definitely the Diamond Sword, Diamonds are as hard as it comes... Oh, is that not what you meant? ;) :D :p

Ultima Shadow
02-01-2005, 03:16 PM
All well ultimecia was wimp and if omega is weaker then I feel sorry for him.

Well... it depends on how to fight him. But as soon as you know the trick, Omega is easy as crap.
And in the earlier posts I mentioned that "Ultima" was stronger, not Ultimecia... but whatever. :p

Shoden
02-01-2005, 05:52 PM
yeah but the real challenge with Omega is figuring out his pattern 1st time through the game without an FAQ

feioncastor
02-01-2005, 07:54 PM
I can't believe no one has mentioned Atma Weapon.

Feion

Ultima Shadow
02-01-2005, 09:08 PM
I can't believe no one has mentioned Atma Weapon.

Because Rasp > Atma Weapon. That battle is just that simple... :(

feioncastor
02-01-2005, 09:34 PM
Well said.

Ultimate99997
02-01-2005, 09:41 PM
Nobody has mentioned penance.......this boss has the highest amount of hp ever created in any ff game and he requires a hell of a lot of preperation in maxing stats, gaining ultimate weapons,gaining abilities - not to mention the build up to actually unlocking him. There is also no easy way to beat him via tricks such as kotr with counter and mimic materia for emerald weapon etc.

However penance is still not my hardest boss - i would have to say that it's ozma from ff9 - reasons--------his attacks are completely random and his power can knock out party members of any level. I say that bosses with an arsenal of magic that can give you a variety of disabling abilities (especially confuse and mini) as well as having meteor dealing random damage are taking the 'hardest boss' top spot for me1

Sepho
02-02-2005, 05:36 AM
Maybe my characters are all super buff or something, but I could always defeat Atma more quickly by physically attacking then by trying to reduce his MP to 0. Either that, or I always came close, then gave up on the MP trick, and just starting beating away at him.

Ultima Shadow
02-02-2005, 04:12 PM
Nobody has mentioned penance.......this boss has the highest amount of hp ever created in any ff game and he requires a hell of a lot of preperation in maxing stats, gaining ultimate weapons,gaining abilities - not to mention the build up to actually unlocking him. There is also no easy way to beat him via tricks such as kotr with counter and mimic materia for emerald weapon etc.

However penance is still not my hardest boss - i would have to say that it's ozma from ff9 - reasons--------his attacks are completely random and his power can knock out party members of any level. I say that bosses with an arsenal of magic that can give you a variety of disabling abilities (especially confuse and mini) as well as having meteor dealing random damage are taking the 'hardest boss' top spot for me1
1) Penance is not a Weapon
2) Ozma is not a Weapon either.

Ultimate99997
02-02-2005, 04:16 PM
whoops - just realised - for some reason I thought you were referrng to hardest bosses - so anyway - hardest weapon would have to be Ruby weapon from ff7 - mainly due to the fact that he could wipe out characters completely from battle and that you had to target three of his body parts makes this battle a living nightmare for me - especially when you dont believe in sure fire strategies which kind of make the battles easy and boring.

Trumpet Thief
02-02-2005, 04:24 PM
chaos: I have to agree with Ultima on every single aspect, as always when it comes to this subject! :love:

Rubedo: Ruby and Emerald both had strategies to make them very vulnerable. For Ruby, have KOTR and have the "absorb" Materia attached to them, so when you attack, and Ruby counters with Ultima, you still live :D (Or at least something to that extent)

Trowa: Through my first play, when I didn't level up all the way, I found Omega harder, simply because of Terra Break and some of his other killer moves. Afterwards, also after a ton of junctioning, and mass leveling up at the Island Closest to Hell, Ultima turned into a pain in the ass. *Sits and stares and sits and stares*

Ultima Shadow
02-03-2005, 09:51 PM
chaos: I have to agree with Ultima on every single aspect, as always when it comes to this subject! :love:

Rubedo: Ruby and Emerald both had strategies to make them very vulnerable. For Ruby, have KOTR and have the "absorb" Materia attached to them, so when you attack, and Ruby counters with Ultima, you still live :D (Or at least something to that extent)

Trowa: Through my first play, when I didn't level up all the way, I found Omega harder, simply because of Terra Break and some of his other killer moves. Afterwards, also after a ton of junctioning, and mass leveling up at the Island Closest to Hell, Ultima turned into a pain in the ass. *Sits and stares and sits and stares*
:D

Yes, thanks to HP absorb and KotR you could take them both out with ease... :mad:

It actually was the same for me on my first plays... and then suddenly... I found out how usefull the "Defend" command really was. And Omega became an ant even without all the cheap tricks some people use. :cool:

Polaris
02-04-2005, 10:49 AM
With Ruby Weapon I lose all my faith!!!

Shoden
02-05-2005, 05:58 PM
ive went through ff7 again but this time Emerald weapon. Ultimate was easy as pie i learned shadow flare from him even though it missed

Masamuneˇ1600
03-04-2005, 08:15 AM
Well, Atma, Emerald, Ruby, Ultima (VIII), and Omega are all relatively easy. Omega from FFV was somewhat of a challenge, but that raises the question of whether or not it's actually a Weapon. I'll say that it is, simply so I can answer the question.

I'm surprised no one has tried to suggest one of the "false rumor" Weapons in FFVII, and I am profoundly thankful for that.

rubah
03-05-2005, 12:38 AM
Atma sorta has to be easy, so you can like. . . keep playing the game?

Masamuneˇ1600
03-06-2005, 10:20 PM
Well, there were actually two Atmas in FFVI. The second one didn't have "Weapon" as part of its title, but it was a palette swap of the original. You can finish the game without fighting that particular Atma, although it's not very difficult.