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Shlup
03-26-2005, 07:47 AM
I'm just saying we may need to be sure there's something for Raist to complain about when he gets back, since he put up his supposed "closing arguments" in his LJ and said he doesn't have anything more to say (which we all know is a sweet, sweet lie).

Roogle
03-26-2005, 09:32 AM
If Raistlin contacts anyone, tell him to talk to me for whatever reason. He'll complain to me and I'll just remove Feedback and be like, "Well, that should take care of it for now!" And then I'll make an announcement like Mandee said earlier.

Loony BoB
03-26-2005, 10:52 AM
As I was saying to Daryl the other day, just wait for everything to start to calm down and then BANG! Another staffer steps down and everyone starts the trouble all over again.

Shlup
03-26-2005, 10:57 AM
Daryl can just say that the staff has officially decided to let Kishi get away with it as her reason for stepping down. If need be. :}

Daryl
03-27-2005, 12:50 AM
Daryl can just say that the staff has officially decided to let Kishi get away with it as her reason for stepping down. If need be. :}

Fair enough. Just let me know when I should do anything else. This thread moves too quickly for me to keep up with it.

Del Murder
03-27-2005, 01:58 AM
At the very least this event has brought all of us closer together.

Depending on where things go tomorrow (28th), we should either close Feedback that afternoon or on Monday (29th). That leaves plenty of time for people to get mad, then Yams and I leave, then the new mods are added, and some more time left over for people to get mad. If there are still kishi arguments going on I will be more than happy to say that I was one of the ones who were against the ban, though I will step down over the Feedback controversy.

I sincerely hope Raistlin does not cause any permanent damage to himself over all of this.

With 4 leaving does it make it necessary that Daryl also go, or is that too many?

Del Murder
03-27-2005, 02:08 AM
Um, when Feedback comes back we should probably have a stricter spam policy for a while. This is pretty bad.

Big D
03-27-2005, 02:21 AM
Definitely. That place truly is getting out of hand:p

People are going to be so gutted that all this drama was a ruse. All that stress, all that time making suggestions or huge posts or writing constitutions.

At least we can call it a 'learning experience/worst case scenario', and give credit where it's due for all the helpful input. People really have been saying some very intelligent and insightful things in the last few days.

With exceptions, of course...

Yamaneko
03-27-2005, 02:33 AM
Like I told Del in a PM, I'm putting Feedback under martial law when this is all over. No more whiney threads or personal problems.

crono_logical
03-27-2005, 03:13 AM
How about we close and archive Feedback as it is, and start it afresh when it comes back? :p

EDIT: Forget it for now actually, it'll initially screw up with restoring things to normal :p

Shlup
03-27-2005, 09:40 AM
Don't forget: I'm not likely to be around tomorrow (Easter) or the following day (my birhday), so feel free to impersonate me. I'll try to keep up with what's going on though.

And, yes, I think Daryl should still step down. But if everyone else feel's it'll be too much, that's fine. I think her stepping down to signify our final decision will push Raist though, and at that point I would looove to ban him. *dance*

crono_logical
03-27-2005, 12:15 PM
If Daryl goes down, I think it has to be before Feedback goes - have to get them to respond in Feedback first before removing that outlet of communication :}

The energy in this thread seems to have dissipated :p

Daryl
03-27-2005, 02:27 PM
All right, tell me when feedback's going and I'll step down before that, complete with melodramatic "I'm leaving, you guys suck" thread.

Del Murder
03-27-2005, 04:30 PM
I think we've done enough to Raistlin already. I don't want the kid to have a heart attack over this.

Loony BoB
03-27-2005, 06:01 PM
Also, if SIX staffers step down, Raistlin gets banned AND Feedback gets closed - all before April Fools - you're really, really pushing your luck. I say no banning of Raist.

RSL
03-27-2005, 06:07 PM
??? When did we decide that we were going to ban Raistlin? And for what?

Yeah, I don't agree with this either.

eestlinc
03-27-2005, 07:10 PM
time to make the donuts, people.

Shlup
03-27-2005, 08:28 PM
We didn't 'decide' to ban Raistin; I suggested it and no one responded. Do as you will! I have heaps of candy to consume! *raspberries*

eestlinc
03-27-2005, 08:35 PM
as funny as banning Raistlin would be, it might be the moment our prank jumps the shark, so to speak. Besides, deleting feedback pretty much makes Raistlin unable to post anyway, doesn't it?

Del Murder
03-28-2005, 12:47 AM
With BoB stepping down for real (personal reasons), do we really need the addition of Yams and myself for this joke? It might be too much. I really think this can go over just as smoothly with the closing of Feedback being the last straw, and maybe one more step down (Daryl/Yams/self). I can still vocalize my disgust with the decision while maintaining my position here. What do you guys think?

I also think I'm going to open up the Big D thread and add my unpopular opinion, to get this Feedback stuff rolling again.

RSL
03-28-2005, 01:47 AM
I guess if everyone steps down it might be a tad unrealistic to only replace them with two people.

But I care not either way. I guess I'm starting to look forward to this all ending. It's been fun, but it's also been a headache.

crono_logical
03-28-2005, 03:03 AM
Raist's back, so I suppose it's time for Roogle to think about removing Feedback, unless anyone wants it to stick around a litte bit longer? :p

Yamaneko
03-28-2005, 03:13 AM
Sounds good to me, Del.

Del Murder
03-28-2005, 04:04 AM
No, not much longer. I reopened that thread for the sole purpose of getting Feedback closed.

Maybe close it early tomorrow or late tonight (or whenever Roog shows up).

RSL
03-28-2005, 04:09 AM
Raistlin doesn't seem to have much fight left in him.

Del Murder
03-28-2005, 04:13 AM
I think this prank ended up being too draining on everyone. We probably shouldn't try something this big again. :p

I just hope everyone forgives us afterwards.

Yamaneko
03-28-2005, 04:16 AM
And if they don't we can just ban them! :monster:

eestlinc
03-28-2005, 04:18 AM
i bet at this point if we just posted "this was all an elaborate joke" people would say it's a cop out :D I think the whole thing's very funny, but I don't know. It definitely has dragged on for a while.

Still, I think deleting feedback will be quite a good culminating moment. At this point we have to see it through to fruition because if we back out now it will just be kinda weird and nonsensical. We might as well push the whole thing further so people will realize how ridiculous it all is.

I still find it funny that nobody has been asking the most obvious question: why the hell would kishi randomly post some hentai pick?

RSL
03-28-2005, 04:21 AM
Heh, yeah, everyone seemed to believe that part without a question.

Del Murder
03-28-2005, 04:21 AM
Yeah I thought that last part too.

BoB was right, the timeline was way too long. Live and learn.

crono_logical
03-28-2005, 04:22 AM
They won't say it's a copout when this thread is made public though (minus certain bits) - if only because of the dates of the posts in here :p

RSL
03-28-2005, 04:23 AM
Are we actually going to do that, though?

Del Murder
03-28-2005, 04:23 AM
I don't think this thread should be public. What 'bits' do we eliminate? Who determines that?

eestlinc
03-28-2005, 04:40 AM
anyone volunteering to go through the 900-odd posts to clean it up?

I should probably keep my mouth shut on that, being the newbie and all...

Yamaneko
03-28-2005, 04:43 AM
Remember I told you about hazing the newbie knights, eest? Well, Thread Tools > Move / Copy. See you in a few days. :)

eestlinc
03-28-2005, 04:53 AM
haha, I'm not a knight yet, and I don't have that power.

crono_logical
03-28-2005, 05:05 AM
I wouldn't mind re-reading this thread some weekend, I think it'd be amusing :p Didn't we say earlier about deleting private-type things like LJ entries etc.? I think mention of ***CENSORED*** would need to be deleted too. Might be best to only keep posts directly related to the ruse, and how we came up with the various ideas. And maybe pure spam :monster: I do think it needs to be more than one person though to double check things.

Loony BoB
03-28-2005, 08:09 AM
It would probably take a while but I would probably be okay with going through a copy of the thread and eliminating all sorts of names and offensive areas and whatnot. Depends how things go.

m4tt
03-28-2005, 04:00 PM
I already hid my LJ entry because that's just how I am. If I really had left staff I wouldn't want to talk about it a day or two later, so I just made it private so people would leave me alone. *pretending like it never happened*

Kawaii Ryűkishi
03-28-2005, 09:42 PM
I think it's a good idea to snip some things out of this thread and then put it where everyone can see it. Best to leave an uncut copy of it in here, though.

Loony BoB
03-28-2005, 09:43 PM
That's the plan.

Take out Feedback tomorrow, Roogle. Even some people who have no idea what's going on are at the least suggesting that Feedback is full of crap.

RSL
03-28-2005, 11:26 PM
I'm starting to like the idea of them seeing a heavily censored version of this thread. As I think someone mentioned earlier, it's quite possible that people won't believe that this is an April Fool's joke unless we show them some proof.

I wish people would stop bringing up that stupid snow penis, though.

crono_logical
03-28-2005, 11:57 PM
Just tell them to take it and shove it up their rear end or something :p

Big D
03-29-2005, 12:29 AM
I'm starting to like the idea of them seeing a heavily censored version of this thread. As I think someone mentioned earlier, it's quite possible that people won't believe that this is an April Fool's joke unless we show them some proof.That should work fine. We just need to delete all personal attacks:p and direct quotes from private LJ entries (except for BoB's "monumental breakdown in staff discipline" quote from Raist), and then everyone'll have no choice but to believe.

I'm kind of concerned about how people will respond to having been duped, though.

eestlinc
03-29-2005, 12:37 AM
we certainly run the risk of upsetting a few members, as is the nature of such pranks. I think if we post this thread and reveal that we were playing roles that will be best. Besides, we can say we have learned a lot about ourselves and each other, which should be reflected in a better staff starting in April.

crono_logical
03-29-2005, 12:39 AM
Well we'll never be able to pull a stunt of this size off again :p

Big D
03-29-2005, 12:46 AM
I agree with Eest. We've basically played out a *very plausible* worst-case scenario, and the results have been very informative. Members' views on discipline and rule-making have been fascinating, as is their willingness to blame it all on Shlup. Threads like that "serious or silly?" thing were created in order to provoke the drama, but they also have genuine topics which are useful to us all.

Shlup
03-29-2005, 01:04 AM
I spent so much time making a giant bitch of myself, you guys had damn well better make this thread public so there's proof much of my bitchiness was for the sake of a joke.

I was going to copy this thread to the WML, go through that copy and censor posts, then move it to the Gen Archive and link to it from Gen Chat, but I'm moving on Friday and may not have internet available... BoB was gonna do it but now he's a wang. Any other volunteers?

Kawaii Ryűkishi
03-29-2005, 01:09 AM
I'll do it.

eestlinc
03-29-2005, 01:15 AM
It can be your punishment!

RSL
03-29-2005, 01:26 AM
I can help you out on the thread if you want me too, Kishi. Or not, up to you. It's a big thread.

Del Murder
03-29-2005, 01:28 AM
I was going to copy this thread to the WML, go through that copy and censor posts, then move it to the Gen Archive and link to it from Gen Chat, but I'm moving on Friday and may not have internet available... BoB was gonna do it but now he's a wang. Any other volunteers?
Sounds like a good idea. Kishi can do it, and if he messes up he will be banned! It's all going according to plan...

I thought we should maybe speed things up a bit. Instead of everything going back to normal on april 1 and this thread being visible on April 2 or 3, instead we have stuff go back to normal on the 31st (or 30th even) and then on April 1 make a GC thread called 'Happy April Fools Day' that contains nothing but a link to the censored version of this thread (in the archive). Your thoughts.

Why is Feedback still up? Where the hell is Roogle?

eestlinc
03-29-2005, 01:31 AM
today seems like a good day to close feedback and soon announce the replacements.

Kawaii Ryűkishi
03-29-2005, 01:34 AM
The people who suspect this is an April Fool's thing should be kept in suspense as long as possible, so, as was said before, everything should go back to normal at the end of the 1st. Then this thread can go out on the 2nd.

Loony BoB
03-29-2005, 11:08 AM
I spent so much time making a giant bitch of myself, you guys had damn well better make this thread public so there's proof much of my bitchiness was for the sake of a joke.

I was going to copy this thread to the WML, go through that copy and censor posts, then move it to the Gen Archive and link to it from Gen Chat, but I'm moving on Friday and may not have internet available... BoB was gonna do it but now he's a wang. Any other volunteers?
BoB was gonna do it? When did I say I wouldn't? =P I don't see why we can't just all go through it as we please. We only need one person to go over the whole thing but everyone else can feel free to go over their posts too.

Loony BoB
03-29-2005, 11:15 AM
I think it's about time we Knighted eestlinc. We'll save foa for sometime over the next couple of days.

Loony BoB
03-29-2005, 01:15 PM
Can you please grant Secret Squirrels access to the Feedback Forum? =P

Roogle
03-29-2005, 01:31 PM
Got it. :p

Loony BoB
03-29-2005, 01:31 PM
:up:

I'd have done the announcement without even suggesting we're going to bother with a 'new' forum later on, personally. Maybe say "we might" but not "there will be".

Roogle
03-29-2005, 01:37 PM
I changed it just for yoooooou. :monster:

Leeza
03-29-2005, 08:52 PM
I received a PM from The Captain that is making me feel extemely guilty for for playing this joke on him as he is genuinely concerned. I'm going to have to send him huge apologies for causing him all of this stress.

Yamaneko
03-29-2005, 09:34 PM
I'm flaming the fires of hate towards the rest of staff. :D

eestlinc
03-29-2005, 09:37 PM
Yea, I think Capn is the one member most likely to be adversely affected by all this.

Big D
03-29-2005, 09:43 PM
I received a PM from The Captain that is making me feel extemely guilty for for playing this joke on him as he is genuinely concerned. I'm going to have to send him huge apologies for causing him all of this stress.Me too... I've also received genuinely heartfelt support from Bleys, Raistlin and Nik0tine. This is going to suck...

Big D
03-29-2005, 09:49 PM
Hah!
Raist, man, get some new material, I'm sure you've posted that a few times already and I'm pretty sure everyone's seen it.I didn't see it. All I know is that the staff's word holds no merit any more. How do I know if they are lying or not?How, indeed?

In other news, Bleys has decided that Kishi's picture was not ban-worthy, thus all this drama is my fault. (http://forums.eyesonff.com/showpost.php?p=1051964&postcount=148) That actually makes me feel a little better:D

Shlup
03-29-2005, 09:59 PM
At the very least, the results of this joke are very interesting and/or bizzare. Some people really think that image isn't banworth? Weird.

eestlinc
03-29-2005, 10:02 PM
That picture is high art!

Shlup
03-29-2005, 10:05 PM
It is a nice pic. Hot.

Kawaii Ryűkishi
03-29-2005, 10:25 PM
I can hook you up.

Shlup
03-29-2005, 10:45 PM
Gee, you have more porn? I never would've thought it.

RSL
03-29-2005, 11:35 PM
I can't wait for this to be over.

Shlup
03-30-2005, 12:44 AM
Lets try to keep this fun. I mean, jeez.

I'm trying to get Raist to stop talking to me though, so I don't do anymore damage. xD

Big D
03-30-2005, 01:02 AM
I'd like to let Devin in on this. He's really unhappy about the way things appear to be going - never before has he made a thread that's even remotely angry/rebellious/discontented. I think he should be informed that it's all a simulation, so he doesn't find out two days from now and think that he's been messed around for all this time.

RSL
03-30-2005, 01:14 AM
So is anyone going to step down because of this?

Del Murder
03-30-2005, 01:33 AM
Someone should. Maybe we'll just stick with the original plan and have Yams and me go, or maybe just one, since we'll need things to do for the next couple days.

The Feedback announcement was too professional, I hope it genearates a good response. When it comes back, make sure we remove all threads related to the incident.

I'm not opposed to letting Cap in on it. I think he'll be cool with it in the end. Either tell him what's going on, or tell him without telling him, something like 'everything will be ok, I can't tell you why, but don't worry, there are things going on behind the scenes and it is no where as bad as it seems in public view'. Hell, I can tell him that myself.

Yamaneko
03-30-2005, 01:37 AM
Someone can deknight me if you want. I think I'm mad at staff for not listening to me and for the drama you've created.

Del Murder
03-30-2005, 01:42 AM
Roogle should have set the announcement to expire on April 1, as a subtle hint for someone paying too much attention.

Maybe Yams can go tomorrow. Today can be about Feedback, tomorrow Yams, and Thursday the new knights. Gives us an event for every day left. Is that good?

I need to make sure to call you a coward too.

Big D
03-30-2005, 01:44 AM
It's not like there needs to be public disagreement before someone steps down, anyway. A member can go "omg why isn't Stalin on staff anymore?" then Yams can be all like "omg secret argument in secret staff forum".

Edit: Tony posted a milisecond before me; I agree with everything he just said.

RSL
03-30-2005, 01:45 AM
Sounds good, Del.

Yamaneko
03-30-2005, 02:05 AM
You gotta love Spiff. This cracked me up in eest's thread.


Foreshadowing is a good thing too.

Leeza
03-30-2005, 02:19 AM
After being away for so many days I'm kind of lost here, but I agree that The Captain should know that it's an April Fool's joke because it really does seem to be bothering him a lot.

Wasn't Daryl going to step down before Feedback was taken off or did I miss something?

Since I've "taken the easy way out" and have already not posted in the forums since the 24th, I don't think that I should post there anymore until this is over and then I can say "What are you all talking about?" when I start closing those horrid threads in GC and they tell me that I can't do it because I'm not a Knight anymore. :)

Shlup
03-30-2005, 02:26 AM
Yeah, I was thinking of telling Devin myself but neglected to bring it up. Please do tell him. Screwing with him isn't nearly as fun as everyone else. ;_;

Del Murder
03-30-2005, 03:20 AM
I reopened the Feedback GC thread to stir things up a little more. I'll also send a pm to The Captain telling him that everything's cool.

Shlup
03-30-2005, 03:22 AM
Alright. After you send yours to him tell me 'cause I want to send him a personal apology for being so awful. xD

Daryl
03-30-2005, 03:23 AM
I wasn't sure if I was still supposed to step down or not. I don't care either way.

Del Murder
03-30-2005, 03:33 AM
Nah, Yams will be the only person that needs to step down.

I've decided that instead of calling him a coward, I'm going to go nuts and blame everyone for causing this to happen to my good friend. It will be fun.

Shlup
03-30-2005, 03:40 AM
I totally told you, Del. (http://www.eyesonff.com/forums/showthread.php?p=1053265#post1053265) Haha.

Big D
03-30-2005, 03:51 AM
I totally told you, Del. (http://www.eyesonff.com/forums/showthread.php?p=1053265#post1053265) Haha.At first I thought it was a little unfair that everyone was blaming it all on you. Now, though, it seems like you're enjoying it:p

Here's a draft of a PM I'd like to send to Devin. Any objections from anyone?
Hi Devin,
I just wanted to provide some measure of reassurance about things that have been happening at EoFF recently. I believe Tony has already sent you a PM on this topic, but I wanted to add my own thoughts too. I just have to ask that you keep it confidential for the time being, as I will explain later...
Here goes:

Basically, there has not been a devastating breakdown in staff discipline and rules. What we have all witnessed is, in essence, a "worst case scenario" simulation - a role play, of sorts, assessing the impact and repercussions of what would happen if a serious breach of rules took place.

Here's how it all developed:
Every year, the staff do something unusual for April Fool's Day. This year, we were trying to come up with something original, something creative. The idea of "Kishi getting banned for posting porn" came to mind immediately, but the problem was how to make it look real, not just a blatant gag that everyone would see through.

At this time, there was considerable controversy concerning EoFF's swear filter, with staff and regulars on both sides of the (sometimes heated) debate in Feedback. This gave us an idea: what if the staff become seriously split over a big issue of some sort? A fundamental divide, something so bad that half of us would quit? From then on, we orchestrated a timetable and basic 'plot synopsis' for how things would develop, including who would side against whom, and what kind of issues would polarise us. My 'Serious or Silly?' thread in Feedback was one manifestation of that.
However, through all of this, it was decided that each Staffer would remain true to their own personality and opinions. Whenever we said we supported or opposed something, that was usually all true; the only 'acting' was in the degree of response we each showed. Deliberately taking things to extremes and getting angered by fairly trivial differences of opinion. This was all intended to create a 'factual matrix' to support - and conceal - Kishi being banned. All staff arguments and resignations are a part of the simulation, as is the removal of Feedback.

However, this is not merely an April Fool's joke; it is also a serious investigation into what makes a forum function, what members expect and require from their staff and vice versa. Powerful lessons have been learned; the value of professionalism and a healthy balance of seriousness and levity have been given much exposure. Noble concepts such as Del Snizz's "The Community of EoFF" and your own proposed Constitution have given everyone plenty to think about. Staff decisions on matters of discipline and rule enforcement will forever be improved as as result of the intense response to recent staged events.

In a matter of days, all will be restored and a detailed thread will be moved in the Archive, explaining exactly what has been going down. I just wanted to tell you in advance, since you've clearly been upset and even angered by some aspects of staff's 'performance' in recent days. Many of us feel that it is unfair for you to be left in the dark in this way.

In early April, EoFF will be back to its congenial former self, no doubt about that. The majority of members should soon appreciate both the absurd humour of the entire scheme, as well as the gravity of the lessons learned.

Our heartfelt apologies for any consternation caused.

Regards,
Dave

Del Murder
03-30-2005, 03:53 AM
I haven't sent him the pm yet, but you can go with that one. Mine would have been one sentence :D.

I also felt bad that Shlup was the grand bitch in all this, which is why I stood up for her yesterday (though I am betraying her today, I wonder if anyone caught that). Roog or BoB or RSL or someone should give her some support.

Shlup
03-30-2005, 04:06 AM
If it weren't a joke I would be totally crushed at being so totally blamed for all of this, but as long as it's for the joke I don't mind. And I'm used to it. Haha.

Yeah, send that PM, D. It's a bit long-winded, but I think Cappy'll appreciate it seeing as anyone else would just be like "Chill, dude, it's a joke." xD

Big D
03-30-2005, 04:07 AM
Done. (One sentence - heh! I wish I could be that concise).

I added a little extra:
PS You gotta admit... we played it pretty well, I think. I often disagree with ShlupQuack, but we get along nicely - even more, recently. The recent scandals have simply been a result of us 'hamming up' our own opinions, pretending to refuse to co-operate or compromise. All was rigged so that EoFF's members would witness an apparent bust-up among the staff. However, as it transpired, the plot went from a mere April Fool's joke into a powerful learning experience.

All I ask, on behalf of staff, is that this stay between us. There's quite a keen interest in what's been happening; the results are going to be most interesting indeed. We just agreed to fill you in because you've shown such concern and dedication to the forums, and to staff such as Leeza and myself, and frankly we were beginning to feel a little guilty.

Shlup
03-30-2005, 04:07 AM
Be sure to mention he's the only one we've told too.

EDIT: Haha, you did.

Del Murder
03-30-2005, 04:07 AM
Yes, seems right up his alley.

Big D
03-30-2005, 04:10 AM
Done that, too.

I always seem to get long-winded when I'm talking to Devin. Not sure why, I think it's just 'cause he's so articulate and respectful in everything he does. I subconsciously try to attain others' high standards...
I think Cappy'll appreciate it seeing as anyone else would just be like "Chill, dude, it's a joke." xDIf I were in his shoes, getting a PM like that would hack me off, big time. A whole lotta people have been really on edge over the stew we've been stirring; anything less than a full and honest explanation would seem to trivialise some very real concerns.
:p

Del Murder
03-30-2005, 04:41 AM
Why do you keep deleting it? This is amusing.

Shlup
03-30-2005, 04:46 AM
Why do you keep opening it? XD

Del Murder
03-30-2005, 04:47 AM
I was enjoying the replies. Is it really gone forever? :(

Shlup
03-30-2005, 04:50 AM
No, I moved it to Feedback. The Captain himself said that the events of the day have made him kind of wary to the possiblity of this being a joke, so if we continue like this I'm afraid we're going to screw it up.

Del Murder
03-30-2005, 04:51 AM
Ok, that's all for today then. Flamethrower is also sniffing things.

Shlup
03-30-2005, 04:55 AM
He's more than just sniffing. The turd.

Del Murder
03-30-2005, 04:57 AM
He'll be alright. I'm going to move all of the feedback spinoff threads to Feedback as well.

Big D
03-30-2005, 05:02 AM
He's more than just sniffing. The turd.we've got to leave this post here when this thread gets censored.

Shlup
03-30-2005, 05:05 AM
Then, while we're at it, Spiff is also a turd. *nod*

I think I'm off for today. I talked to Devin a bit in PM; I'm glad he doesn't seem upset, though I'm not surprised he doesn't seem to find humor in this. Heh.

Del Murder
03-30-2005, 05:10 AM
At least Spiff is doing it subtly. His comments are amusing. <b>***CENSORED***</B>

Leeza
03-30-2005, 05:15 AM
That was a good PM, Big D. :)

Yes, a few people are starting to figure things out, or they always had them figured out and now they're sure, but the majority believe this is for real.

eestlinc
03-30-2005, 05:21 AM
I for one am glad a few people managed to put it together.

Shlup
03-30-2005, 05:40 AM
Jojo seems to have dropped the idea that this is a joke. The only people I know still think its a joke are Flamethrower and Spiff, and at least Spiff is just sitting back and enjoying the entertainment. xD

crono_logical
03-30-2005, 05:41 AM
You should have waited D, there's only like 1 day left xD

Shlup
03-30-2005, 05:43 AM
Where you are, maybe. Where I'm at it's still the 29th, and, if I recall, we're doing this on Pacific time since it's one of the last timezones.

Del Murder
03-30-2005, 05:46 AM
There is still over two days left.

Is Raistlin banned again?

Shlup
03-30-2005, 05:47 AM
Is he? I didn't do it!

Del Murder
03-30-2005, 05:52 AM
I know what it was. The 1 day limit I set on his eoeo ban (which moved him out of the banned group and allowed him to post) just expired, moving him back into 'banned'. Please put him in whatever group he's supposed to be in (former staff/eiko/whatever).

Shlup
03-30-2005, 05:53 AM
Ah, good lookin' out, Del.

Del Murder
03-30-2005, 05:56 AM
I like how most of the warned posts today came from staff members who don't have any powers. Good job guys. :)

Shlup
03-30-2005, 05:57 AM
I noticed that too. xD

Shlup
03-30-2005, 07:04 AM
Please extent my thanks to the Staff for your olive branch. Had I not been clued in, I might have REALLY gone crazy.

crono_logical
03-30-2005, 08:26 AM
Oh yeah, I'm still doing the mini "fake" thing on Friday involving the forum links, right? :p Thinking about it, you should still be able to get into the individual forums using the Most Recent Post links - thought I'd mention that so you don't all get confused when I actually do it :p

Shlup
03-30-2005, 08:37 AM
Yes, do that. I'm sad that I'll probably be too busy on Friday to even see it though. ;_;

Loony BoB
03-30-2005, 10:19 AM
I've found that the meek are the ones capable of the greatest things.
Then it would be great if they were capable of typing out a PM.
That was brilliant. :D

And yeah, clout, do that so long as you actually can guarantee it won't cause any permanent damage to the forums.

Also, I really do look forward to smiling at everyone and telling them that I don't know what they're talking about. Seriously. If anyone here actually SAYS it was an April Fools joke <i>before</i> we reveal the edited version of this thread, delete their post or something.

Also, when we return the Feedback Forum to its normal state, remember to remove any traces of the drama from it first. We also will need to purge General Chat of such things.

Also, we should make sure every thread in the future April Fool's Forum is closed. They can make a new topic to talk about the threads etc. in.

Everyone is going to be all "I knew it!" even though they really didn't know, they were all just guessing just so they could say "I knew it!" :smash:

The moment we put everything back to normal should be the moment we create a copy of this thread to go through and censor. If some admin can go into the Secret Squirrels usergroup and, at the bottom of the page, select 'is a Super Moderator group' or whatever it is, that'd be great. Otherwise I won't be able to censor your posts. Also, everyone should at least go through their own posts as well as one or two people going through everyone's posts.

EDIT: Also, the April Fools forum title or description should be "Monumental Breakdown in Staff Protocol".

crono_logical
03-30-2005, 01:33 PM
When do eest/foa get knighted?

m4tt
03-30-2005, 01:35 PM
I thought eest was supposed to be knighted already?

crono_logical
03-30-2005, 02:10 PM
Fine, I'll do it now then :p Complete with announcement, of course, as per normal :p

Yamaneko
03-30-2005, 02:56 PM
Someone can deknight me now or wait until I get back from school. It doesn't matter. I'll be back around 3pm PST.

eestlinc
03-30-2005, 03:13 PM
haha, I got a warned post email and was like "oh..."

Leeza
03-30-2005, 04:20 PM
I'll be sending you a few more of those before I get my powers back. :)

m4tt
03-30-2005, 05:16 PM
Yeah, me too. :p

*makes negative comments in eets' congratualtions thread*

eestlinc
03-30-2005, 05:18 PM
i have a congratulations thread? I should move it to feedback!

m4tt
03-30-2005, 05:23 PM
Sweet, Bleys thinks I'm bitter. That means I'm doing a good job!

Leeza
03-30-2005, 06:35 PM
***CENSORED***

I'm at work, but I'll try find some posts to report for you eest. :)

eestlinc
03-30-2005, 07:17 PM
why don't you just modwhore and spam them up instead?

crono_logical
03-30-2005, 07:19 PM
yeah, in here too :p I wonder if this thread'll hit 1000 :p

crono_logical
03-30-2005, 07:35 PM
i have a congratulations thread? I should move it to feedback!I'll try to remember to do that when everything goes back to normal :p

Leeza
03-30-2005, 07:42 PM
why don't you just modwhore and spam them up instead?
I'll do both. :)

m4tt
03-30-2005, 08:25 PM
Modwhoring, woo!

Shlup
03-30-2005, 09:23 PM
Secret Squirrels are now super moderators.

Leeza
03-30-2005, 09:37 PM
Thank you. :)

Shlup
03-30-2005, 09:40 PM
<i>The quote earlier, from GC: "And somehow, against all odds, you've managed to prevail in your quest to keep kishi unbanned, despite vast opposition (while I defended you) by the rest of staff. M'kay... *whistles*" - Yams</i>

Dammit, Yams, now Raist is going to be quoting that at me for the next two days! I told him you and I had a private discussion about it and you said it 'cause you were being pissy. *punt*

crono_logical
03-30-2005, 09:44 PM
I made SS supermods earlier today, but then removed it in case they suddenly go moderate threads by mistake :p Since the thread that needs to go public won't be getting edited until April 2nd, and everyone will be back to Knights at the same time, I thought it would be unnecessary for SS to be supermods :p

Shlup
03-30-2005, 09:46 PM
Well then you should've said so sooner. :aimmad:

m4tt
03-30-2005, 09:53 PM
***CENSORED***

Shlup
03-30-2005, 10:14 PM
I'm putting words into Yam's mouth now. Yup.

Raist: I think it revealed his true thoughts about the situation. Yams doesn't like to argue - he quit FG Staff because of the within-staff arguing. He told as much to me(that he didn't want to argue about the whole Kishi thing). I think he gave in merely because he was unwilling to keep arguing. However, with this latest disagreement that he is willing to argue for, I think his true feelings about the last case are coming forward.

Me: How convenient that now that he agrees with you it's suddenly his "true thoughts." Couldn't possibly have been something he said just because he was angry over Feedback being removed, like he just freaking said. No, of course not. How silly of me to think that everything else he said was the truth.

crono_logical
03-30-2005, 10:33 PM
I'll mod foa some time tomorrow morning (probably round midnight for america), seeing as it's like the last day :p

Yamaneko
03-30-2005, 11:00 PM
Ok, you can deknight me now.

RSL
03-30-2005, 11:57 PM
What's the story on Yamaneko being demodded? He quit? Was going to be fired but quit before that could happen?

Just trying to keep stories straight.

Shlup
03-31-2005, 12:05 AM
I dunno. He asked to be de-Knighted. Too much drama was supposed to be the reason, right?

RSL
03-31-2005, 12:08 AM
Hmmmm. Why did I post that in this thread?

Shlup
03-31-2005, 12:10 AM
Because you're dumb. Ooooh! BURN!

RSL
03-31-2005, 12:11 AM
It hurts.

Shlup
03-31-2005, 12:12 AM
xD

*snuggles*

RSL
03-31-2005, 12:16 AM
Okay, now that it is in the correct thread I look stupid for saying that. I can't win.

crono_logical
03-31-2005, 12:17 AM
I always wanted to juggle posts between threads like that :p

Shlup
03-31-2005, 02:06 AM
These are the votes for both issues, I think. Someone correct me if I'm wrong before I start arguing with Raist again:

I realize I'm the most willing to deal with you, but you seem pretty unwilling to consider that perhaps I'm not completely to blame for this situation. Daryl banned Kishi without staff consent, D brought the issue outside of the staff forum, Roogle removed Feedback; for the most part, I'm just stating what I think is right and upholding staff decisions that have been made, including the [temporary] PM Feedback system, which was not my idea.

The vote on whether or not Kishi would stay, as taken from the staff forum:
Me - Pro Kishi
BoB - Pro Kishi
RSL - Pro Kishi
Roo - Pro Kishi
clout - Pro Kishi
Yams - Pro Kishi
Daryl - Anti Kishi
Cid - Neutral
Unne - Unnavailable
Del - Pro Kishi
Xander - Neutral

On removing Feedback, taken from the staff forum:
Me - Pro Removal
RSL - Neutral
Roo - Pro Removal
clout - Pro Removal
Yams - Against Removal
Daryl - Unavailable
Cid - Unavailable
Unne - Unnavailable
Del - Against Removal
Xander - Neutral

I left out those who stepped down before the vote because they are filthy traitors!!

Del Murder
03-31-2005, 02:08 AM
Sounds good.

Daryl
03-31-2005, 02:21 AM
I thought there were more anti kishi? xD I guess they all stepped down...

And I was definitely in favor of getting rid of Feedback.

Shlup
03-31-2005, 02:22 AM
See, if I would've guessed I would've said you were agaisnt getting rid of Feedback. xD

Yeah, all the real anti-Kishi side, except you, stepped down. I'm sure Raist will notice I left their opinions off my list. ;)

RSL
03-31-2005, 02:24 AM
Okay, I'm getting interrogated by Raistlin now.

Leeza
03-31-2005, 02:25 AM
Ha! We're not the filthy traitors! We're the only ones that love EoFF so much that we are willing to step down for it rather than have any part of it turning into a deparvity. :tongue:

Yes, that sounds about right, Shlup. At least right in as far as some people changing their stance on the issue when you were the only one that was Pro-Kishi there for a bit. :)

I wonder if Raistlin ever rests.

RSL
03-31-2005, 02:27 AM
I wonder if he's finally starting to consider the possibility of this all being a joke. The way he's asking me questions right now makes it seem like he's taking notes.

Ah well, we're close to the end now. And boy I can't wait for this to end.

Shlup
03-31-2005, 02:27 AM
Yeah, Raistlin is interviewing every person I listed. Haha. He's trying to get Roogle at the angle that Roogle wasn't really pro-Kishi, he was just pro-Kishi because I was pro-Kishi. Like that makes a difference.

Everyone says those who stepped down are cowards! Take THAT!

RSL
03-31-2005, 02:52 AM
It is impossible to talk to him on AIM and not get quoted in his LJ.

Shlup
03-31-2005, 03:23 AM
I'm under that impression.

He even quoted the AIM conversation that Yams asked him not to. Haha.

eestlinc
03-31-2005, 04:38 AM
Unne - Unnavailable

:D

crono_logical
03-31-2005, 08:25 AM
Unnevailable

He (Raist) hasn't PMed me yet :p

Shlup
03-31-2005, 10:12 AM
It's because he knows you're my bitch.

Kawaii Ryűkishi
03-31-2005, 03:09 PM
***CENSORED***

eestlinc
03-31-2005, 03:15 PM
***CENSORED***

m4tt
03-31-2005, 03:22 PM
***CENSORED***

Loony BoB
03-31-2005, 03:23 PM
***CENSORED***

m4tt
03-31-2005, 03:25 PM
Dude, everyone sucks for not adding something about ME when I stepped down for the good of eoff. Screw all yalls.

eestlinc
03-31-2005, 03:27 PM
I don't even think I'm in there at all.

m4tt
03-31-2005, 03:29 PM
We just aren't popular enough.

Loony BoB
03-31-2005, 03:33 PM
***CENSORED***

Leeza
03-31-2005, 05:19 PM
***CENSORED***

EDIT: Nothing that I see out of order anyways.

Shlup
03-31-2005, 05:37 PM
***CENSORED***

m4tt
03-31-2005, 05:48 PM
***CENSORED***

btw, after this is all over can I have my name back to Matt? I'll keep it forever I swear!

RSL
03-31-2005, 05:53 PM
m4tt plz

eestlinc
03-31-2005, 05:53 PM
*changes name to "m4tt plz"*

m4tt
03-31-2005, 05:57 PM
m4tt would work too, I guess. Then other people whould know who Del was talking about when he reffers to me as "4".

crono_logical
03-31-2005, 06:20 PM
Pssh, still no entry for me? :p

Yamaneko
03-31-2005, 06:22 PM
cl_out - He likes cookies! :monster:

crono_logical
03-31-2005, 06:29 PM
***CENSORED***

Leeza
03-31-2005, 06:34 PM
Pssh, still no entry for me? :p
You can put one in for yourself. It seems like that's how 90% of the others got in there. :)

m4tt
03-31-2005, 06:35 PM
I put one in for you clout :p

crono_logical
03-31-2005, 06:37 PM
You can put one in for yourself. It seems like that's how 90% of the others got in there. :)That's no fun :p

Leeza
03-31-2005, 06:41 PM
I put one in for you clout :p
You did? Where is it? :)

Shlup
03-31-2005, 06:45 PM
***CENSORED***

m4tt
03-31-2005, 06:46 PM
http://www.eyesonff.com/members/wiki/Members/CronoLogical

Right there!

crono_logical
03-31-2005, 06:50 PM
Interesting description :p

EDIT: You spelled my nick wrong >:{

Shlup
03-31-2005, 06:50 PM
wtf is with the shift key uses?

Leeza
03-31-2005, 06:50 PM
Why doesn't his name show up here?

http://www.eyesonff.com/members/wiki/Members/Members

crono_logical
03-31-2005, 06:51 PM
He did it completely wrong :monster:

m4tt
03-31-2005, 06:56 PM
Interesting description :p

EDIT: You spelled my nick wrong >:{
I didn't spell it, I went to the forums staff page and added it from there. This Wiki thing is confusing as hell so I have no idea what I'm doing most of the time. :)

Loony BoB
03-31-2005, 08:16 PM
omg u guyzzzz, u r liek, totly of topk, liek, wrnwrnwrn! DUH! :rolleyes:

edit by eest: let the staff do it's job, BoB.:D

Yamaneko
03-31-2005, 08:22 PM
stfu plz :blahblah:

Xander
03-31-2005, 11:03 PM
I guess this will be over soon then! Phew. It's got a lot of people riled up. xD Pretty big for an April Fool but seems to have got the desired effect....is the Feedback Forum really staying gone? I got kinda lost with that.

Leeza
03-31-2005, 11:08 PM
<B>***CENSORED***</B>

Del Murder
04-01-2005, 01:23 AM
Is Feedback clean? *checks*

Let's start thinking about what things we need to undo tomorrow.

EDIT: Are we hiding stuff that has to do with the Unne avs?

eestlinc
04-01-2005, 01:37 AM
tomorrow I want to post an announcement:

"New Knights (3)" with body "haha, just kidding!"

Leeza
04-01-2005, 02:51 AM
Let's start thinking about what things we need to undo tomorrow.

EDIT: Are we hiding stuff that has to do with the Unne avs?
There are a lot of posts here and there throughout the board that are related to this joke. Do we just go in and delete those from each thread as we see them?

The Unne avs didn't have anything to do with April Fool's so I think that they should remain.

RSL
04-01-2005, 03:07 AM
Raistlin is pretty curious as to who the next mod is going to be. Heh.

eestlinc
04-01-2005, 03:08 AM
or "the newest member of Cid's Knights is...Raistlin!!!!!"

edit: I'll think of something good and post it at midnight eastern, unless i get told not to first. :D

Leeza
04-01-2005, 03:13 AM
or "the newest member of Cid's Knights is...Raistlin!!!!!"
No. Don't even joke about it please.

eestlinc
04-01-2005, 03:17 AM
no i wouldn't put that up. but "actually there aren't any more right now. April Fools!" would be good I think.

RSL
04-01-2005, 04:21 AM
Who let the dogs out?

who who who who

Shlup
04-01-2005, 04:33 AM
WTF, RSL. You're fired.

RSL
04-01-2005, 04:36 AM
You can't fire me.

Shlup
04-01-2005, 04:47 AM
Oh, I think I did. Bitch.

RSL
04-01-2005, 04:48 AM
Serious.

m4tt
04-01-2005, 04:48 AM
Fight the power, RSL!

Shlup
04-01-2005, 04:51 AM
I WILL DEVOUR YOU ALL! Muaha!

Kawaii Ryűkishi
04-01-2005, 04:52 AM
Guess I'll break out the tentacles.

RSL
04-01-2005, 04:53 AM
Now what are we going to do?

Shlup
04-01-2005, 04:58 AM
Good, Kishi. I was afraid they were collecting dust.

Is there anything else we need to do today? We should cause one more ragey-faced outburst amongst the members before tomorrow, I think.

RSL
04-01-2005, 05:00 AM
I won't be around tomorrow. So do as you will SlackQulup.

Leeza
04-01-2005, 05:00 AM
Weren't we going to make it so that there would be only one style? The new one?

Shlup
04-01-2005, 05:02 AM
I won't be arround tomorrow either! Who's going to be around tomorrow?

Del Murder
04-01-2005, 05:03 AM
What?

I'll work on an outburst.

RSL
04-01-2005, 05:04 AM
I might sneak on later tomorrow night. I'm getting really excited at the idea that this is all going to be over soon.

hey macarena

Leeza
04-01-2005, 05:05 AM
I'm around tomorrow, but I can't do anything except delete some posts...or don't we do anything until the 2nd?

Yamaneko
04-01-2005, 05:07 AM
I think everything should go back to normal tomorrow evening, followed by an announcement, saying, "oh, btw, there's a new forum in the archive".

Del Murder
04-01-2005, 05:08 AM
Yeah, tomorrow is shut up day anyway.

I don't have much spite in me right now. Give me something to yell about.

Del Murder
04-01-2005, 05:09 AM
I thought things go back to normal with no explanation, then the new forum comes later. I'd rather it be a thread in GC so that we can discuss it with them. Maybe a thread saying Happy April Fools, and the body being a link to the new forum.

Yamaneko
04-01-2005, 05:11 AM
:mad2:

Leeza
04-01-2005, 05:12 AM
That's what I thought as well, Del. No explanation and then we all go back to normal on the 2nd and then a thread would get made later after we've all been denying everything for days.

RSL
04-01-2005, 05:12 AM
That is the best way.

Del Murder
04-01-2005, 05:15 AM
In your FACE Yams.

Yamaneko
04-01-2005, 05:16 AM
0_o

RSL
04-01-2005, 05:18 AM
I just died in your arms tonight.

eestlinc
04-01-2005, 05:20 AM
I JUST C<i></i>AN'T GET YOU OUT OF MY HEAD BOY YOU'RE ALL THAT I CAN THINK ABOUT

Yamaneko
04-01-2005, 05:23 AM
Someone saved my life tonight...

RSL
04-01-2005, 05:24 AM
love shack baby love shack

Del Murder
04-01-2005, 05:34 AM
We built this city on rock and roll

eestlinc
04-01-2005, 05:41 AM
keep it in the staff forum, Del. :D

Del Murder
04-01-2005, 05:46 AM
This is even better. Now people will wonder what the hell I said.

eestlinc
04-01-2005, 05:47 AM
like they wonder what the hell Kishi posted. :D

someone can open up that thread if they like.

Leeza
04-01-2005, 05:52 AM
I was about ready click on Submit/Reply in that thread, but it's a good thing that I refreshed first and seen that it was already Closed. :)

Del Murder
04-01-2005, 05:56 AM
I've run out of things to say. I'm much better at planning schemes than executing them.

eestlinc
04-01-2005, 05:59 AM
it's open again!

Del Murder
04-01-2005, 06:03 AM
Yeah, well, we need something to do. It can't just end all quiet like this.

Kawaii Ryűkishi
04-01-2005, 06:05 AM
Sure we can. Then we put everything back how it was and threads get made by people wondering what the hell happened why is Leeza a Cid's Knight again and we just smile and say, "What?"

Yamaneko
04-01-2005, 06:06 AM
Or we could say, "Chill dude, it's a joke". :D

Leeza
04-01-2005, 06:10 AM
Or we could say, "Chill dude, it's a joke". :D
We say that on around Day #7 when everyone is still making threads about all of this. :)

Leeza
04-01-2005, 06:13 AM
...smurfing jerkoffs?! :)

Yamaneko
04-01-2005, 06:13 AM
I'm gonna cause some trouble in GC. I'll then put myself on invisible, and leave for the night.

Del Murder
04-01-2005, 06:16 AM
what

eestlinc
04-01-2005, 06:16 AM
I edited your post Yams. :D

Leeza
04-01-2005, 06:16 AM
***CENSORED***

eestlinc
04-01-2005, 06:17 AM
***CENSORED***

Del Murder
04-01-2005, 06:18 AM
***CENSORED***

eestlinc
04-01-2005, 06:20 AM
***CENSORED***