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Armisael
06-07-2005, 02:54 PM
So the relatiosnhip of Celes and Locke..Can it be considered as the "love story" of FFVI?
Celes seems to have feelings for Locke..But is it vice versa?I mean,Locke doesn't seem to let go of his past..What happened with Rachel,had surely a deep affect on him..So is Locke in some way trying to settle his past for the mistake that he believed he did,by protecting Celes?Or is it something more?

Same with General Leo and Terra..This relationship could probably grow in an unexpected way if Leo didn't die..

Your opinion?

theundeadhero
06-07-2005, 04:06 PM
I think in the ending movie it shows more of a Locke getting over Rachel's death and accepting Celes' advances.

General Leo and Terra I don't agree with. The only thing to really support that would be the conversation on the ship, but to me that seems more like a grown up conversation than blooming love.

Devourment
06-07-2005, 04:17 PM
I don't think that Locke & Celes would ever get together, they sometimes have good moments but then sometimes have bad moments. If they did get together it'd be a rocky relationship. I think Locke & Rachel were meant for each other, Locke should go & throw himself in Ultros' mouth, then he could join Rachel.

As for Terra & General Leo, they only understood each other in a conversational way... there was no love there between them.

Flying Mullet
06-07-2005, 04:27 PM
You're forgetting Locke and Edgar.

Takara
06-07-2005, 04:53 PM
Isn't Edgar paired with pretty much every male in bad FFVI yaoi, anyway? :p

I personally believe that there may be enough between Locke and Celes for a relationship (as Locke clearly demonstrates by the end of the game that he's finally ready to leave his past behind and move on). I couldn't say if it'd be a successful relationship or not, but since Celes obviously shows that she has feelings for him, and since Locke opens up to her more after the Phoenix Cave/Kohlingen event, it's quite possible they'd end up together some time after defeating Kefka.

Now as for Terra and Leo, I never really interpreted their relationship as something romantic. Maybe it's just me, but I think Leo being Leo, he felt guilt for what Kefka and the Empire did to Terra, and by helping her, he probably thought he could redeem himself. I think his concerns for her were more akin to that of a big brother figure, or at least that of a good friend. You'll notice that most of the Returners show the same type of concern toward Terra; they know how much she suffered and that she's pretty strong despite her appearance, but they don't want her to get hurt again or feel sad and lonely.

And well, just because the conversation Terra and Leo had on the ship was about love, I don't think it automatically means they had romantic feelings for each other. In a sense, I feel that Leo related to her in that scene. Being a general, he probably never really got into a serious relationship in his youth (if he even got into a romantic relationship at all), so he might have known what she was going through. He wanted to reassure her; Terra's young, and she was under the control of the Empire for so long, it's no surprise she never learned what love is, but she would in time.

Besides, it wasn't really romantic love they were talking about, but what love is in general. >_> Leo had probably planned to talk to her more in dept about how friends and family can show her what love is, but then, we all know what happened to Leo, so that talk never took place.

~*~Celes~*~
06-07-2005, 05:59 PM
Personally, I think Locke and Celes are a good possibility, but Leo and Terra? Heck no! Terra and Edgar...I think they should be together because Edgar needs someone to love, Terra doesn't know what love is...Just think about it. They make such an adorable couple!!!!!!!!!

~*~Celes~*~



Another thing: Okay, I have absolutely nothing against gays, but really. Edgar is NOT gay in the game...at least the version I have anyway. He's all over Terra the whole game and simply talks to other male members of the team. Where do you see gayness in that?

~*~Celes~*~

Edit by Kishi: Don't double-post.

Armisael
06-07-2005, 06:19 PM
I didn't say that Terra and Leo <3..I just stated that maybe something could happen between them,if Leo didn't have that fate..The game itself doen't show so much concerning them,byt they do seem to have a special relationship..
Terra recalls him at the end too..

ShunNakamura
06-07-2005, 08:49 PM
I do think there is a good possibility that Celes and Locke could get together.

As for General Leo and Terra. There may have been a chance if you know what didn't happen. However it most likely would only have been a strong freindship.

Kawaii Ryűkishi
06-08-2005, 01:16 AM
Edgar/Locke/Mash/Cayenne/Shadow/Gau/Setzer/Umaro/Gogo x Relm

TheAbominatrix
06-08-2005, 01:20 AM
I think it's a good possibility that, given time, Celes and Locke would get together, though I somehow dont see that relationship working out. Maybe just because I'm a sucker for the Terra/Locke pairing :skull3:. As for Terra/Leo, I dont think it could have blossomed even after time. I just dont see Leo being with anyone, really.

ShunNakamura
06-08-2005, 03:03 AM
too true.. but I think out of anyone in game Terra would be the best fit.. not that it would mean it would happen.. but there might be a *slight possibility. And I am also a fan of Terra/Locke(don't know why) but Celes and Locke(I put terra originally O_o) seem to get along fairly well towards the end.

rubah
06-08-2005, 04:01 AM
I believe that Locke should be shot an. . wait.

I believe that Celes should be shot, stabbed, bitten, maimed, and killed before Locke ever has a chance to entertain teh thought of being with her.

Locke/Celes is one of the main reasons I have to loathe celes.

Locke/Terra forever.

theundeadhero
06-08-2005, 04:19 AM
Edgar/Locke/Mash/Cayenne/Shadow/Gau/Setzer/Umaro/Gogo x Relm
Pics please. Tentacles or not.

ThroneofDravaris
06-08-2005, 03:32 PM
Meh, when I first started FFVI, I thought Locke would end up with Terra. Besides, when you search for Locke+Terra hentai, you get over 22000 hits, compared to Locke and Celes, which was just over 500.

...I have too much time on my hands.

Armisael
06-08-2005, 03:39 PM
Meh, when I first started FFVI, I thought Locke would end up with Terra. Besides, when you search for Locke+Terra hentai, you get over 22000 hits, compared to Locke and Celes, which was just over 500.

...I have too much time on my hands.
So just because the T-L hentai are more than L-C,does this mean that the pair of L-T is more possible than L-C?

ThroneofDravaris
06-08-2005, 03:49 PM
Meh, when I first started FFVI, I thought Locke would end up with Terra. Besides, when you search for Locke+Terra hentai, you get over 22000 hits, compared to Locke and Celes, which was just over 500.

...I have too much time on my hands.
So just because the T-L hentai are more than L-C,does this mean that the pair of L-T is more possible than L-C?

Most of it didn’t seem physically plausible to me anyway…

Armisael
06-08-2005, 03:54 PM
Meh, when I first started FFVI, I thought Locke would end up with Terra. Besides, when you search for Locke+Terra hentai, you get over 22000 hits, compared to Locke and Celes, which was just over 500.

...I have too much time on my hands.
So just because the T-L hentai are more than L-C,does this mean that the pair of L-T is more possible than L-C?

Most of it didn’t seem physically plausible to me anyway…
Sorry but this doesn't make sense to me..If it were to rely on hentai or fanfictions..It's clear that Celes and Locke have special feelings for each other..
My question was if those feelings were love feelings..And it seems to me that they were..

ThroneofDravaris
06-08-2005, 04:04 PM
Meh, when I first started FFVI, I thought Locke would end up with Terra. Besides, when you search for Locke+Terra hentai, you get over 22000 hits, compared to Locke and Celes, which was just over 500.

...I have too much time on my hands.
So just because the T-L hentai are more than L-C,does this mean that the pair of L-T is more possible than L-C?

Most of it didn’t seem physically plausible to me anyway…
Sorry but this doesn't make sense to me..If it were to rely on hentai or fanfictions..It's clear that Celes and Locke have special feelings for each other..
My question was if those feelings were love feelings..And it seems to me that they were..

Well, to completely disregard my hentai cracks (another of my jokes has gone wrong…) , the relationship between Locke and Celes cannot be as blatantly defined as love as one might consider the relationship between Rinoa-Squall and Tidus-Yuna. You can tell it was leading to something, but it doesn’t seem to have reach the threshold in which it can be defined as love, kind of like the Tifa-Cloud relationship.

As for General Leo and Terra… well, he’s dead, so I guess we will never know. However, I doubt it, as Terra becomes more of a ‘Virgin Mary’ sort of figure towards the end.

Armisael
06-08-2005, 04:09 PM
the relationship between Locke and Celes cannot be as blatantly defined as love as one might consider the relationship between Rinoa-Squall and Tidus-Yuna. You can tell it was leading to something, but it doesn’t seem to have reach the threshold in which it can be defined as love, kind of like the Tifa-Cloud relationship.
Yeah you have a point here..Cloud-Tifa relationship is similar to Locke and Celes in some ways..

As for General Leo and Terra… well, he’s dead, so I guess we will never know. However, I doubt it, as Terra becomes more of a ‘Virgin Mary’ sort of figure towards the end.
:lol:
That made me laugh,i don't know why!^_^

TheAbominatrix
06-08-2005, 11:31 PM
Yes, as has been said, Locke and Celes are not official... they never admit feelings to eachother, kiss, or begin dating, so they arent really set in stone. They're certainly hinted at in the story, but to me it always seemed like those feelings fizzled out in the World of Ruin. To me, it seemed like Locke became Celes' hope, and Locke simply seemed to... well, not worry about romance, even after his goodbye with Rachel. Personally, I think that while Locke is going to be dating again someday, it'll be a while. He's made his peace with Rachel, which also had a lot to do with both Terra and Celes... his initial attractions to them centered around the fact that he was reminded of Rachel and his intense need to help people. With his heart cleared, will he still having those feelings for either of them?

Just musing, really. I'd like Locke and Terra to become a couple, but if it did it would be years down the road. Both of them have a lot of emotions to deal with.

Here's some pics from my extensive collection (I'm obsessed!), from all the pairings mentioned. Two of Terra and Locke, one of Terra and Leo, and two of Locke and Celes. Enjoy.

Shlup
06-09-2005, 04:52 AM
The great thing about fictional characters is, after the story ends, you get to decide what happens to them. So, for me, Locke killed himself and Celes got with Terra. *dance*

TheAbominatrix
06-09-2005, 05:44 AM
For Mandee :<3:

Kawaii Ryűkishi
06-09-2005, 06:13 AM
Edgar/Locke/Mash/Cayenne/Shadow/Gau/Setzer/Umaro/Gogo x RelmDon't leave me hanging, here.

TheAbominatrix
06-09-2005, 06:25 AM
Hey, YOU are the hentai master, not I. The closest thing I have is Edgar/Relm.

There.

It creeps me out, but the pictures are sooooo pretty.

ShunNakamura
06-09-2005, 06:48 AM
I guess I shouldn't ask(I don't think I want to know the answer), but where do you guys come up with this stuff? Some of it.... scares ..... me.

My name is...something..?
06-09-2005, 07:16 AM
I think I'm going to be sick...
I did not want to see those pictures...
*throws up*

Kawaii Ryűkishi
06-09-2005, 07:17 AM
Yes, this is what I wanted.

Shlup
06-09-2005, 07:38 AM
Aw, c'mon, those pictures are innocent! He's just lusting her, not molesting her.

Kawaii Ryűkishi
06-09-2005, 07:39 AM
Let's be fair to everyone and say he's molusting her.

ShunNakamura
06-09-2005, 08:45 AM
Oh come, they aren't that bad... though they are far from being clean :P.

I like the first one.

My name is...something..?
06-09-2005, 11:53 AM
Jeez. Did everyone take what I said seriously?
I was kidding. ;)

TheAbominatrix
06-09-2005, 12:16 PM
The Japanese sites seem downright obsessed with the EdgarxRelm pairing. I found more of them than TinaxLock and CelesxLock combined. I only grabbed the really pretty ones, though.

Kawaii Ryűkishi
06-09-2005, 12:30 PM
http://norbert-x.com/rock/userfiles/Kishi/ff6-edream2.jpg

So this (http://www101.sakura.ne.jp./~heavanhell/team-er-index.htm) is what it feels like...when doves cry.

theundeadhero
06-09-2005, 04:22 PM
I didn't think it would feel so pink.

Flying Mullet
06-09-2005, 05:13 PM
This thread is warping my view of FFVI forever. :cry:

Poopcannon
06-09-2005, 05:56 PM
Does the word child-porn mean anything to any of you? I wonder what age Relm is...

For shame...

Relm and Strago on the other hand...

Jowy
06-09-2005, 05:58 PM
Relm's ten years old. She says so in Thamasa after meeting Edgar and company.

TurkSlayer
06-09-2005, 06:03 PM
EdgarxRelm... Ha! Thats a pairing I never even considered! I should write it down! I did read a RelmxSabin once though, and a RelmxCeles...

Anyway, I pretty much considered CelesxLocke the love story of the game. As for TerraxLeo... It could have been possible, but i doubt it.

BTW, where are you all getting these RelmxEdgar pics?

TheAbominatrix
06-10-2005, 02:15 AM
Japanese sites. I've spent years getting FFVI fan art, because it's incredibly hard to find good fan art on American fan sites. There's a handful of good American FFVI fan artists. So I worked extra hard to find Japanese sites and web rings and work through them. They recently did a thing I saw on a lot of Japanese fan sites called FFVIx10, for the 10th anniversary of the game. They made 60 pics (I believe they were all based on some certain criteria) so I found a lot of good stuff.

And since you guys like this so much...

I even have one with Edgar in bed with Relm, but I wont post it here. Haha.

Kawaii Ryűkishi
06-10-2005, 02:56 AM
http://norbert-x.com/rock/userfiles/Kishi/shadowned.png

SHADOWNED

Azure Chrysanthemum
06-10-2005, 08:11 AM
I need to hack TheAbominatrix's computer and steal all her FFVI fanart, I can't find good fanart for FFVI anywhere.

ShunNakamura
06-10-2005, 08:16 AM
*aggrees with Behold the Void*

heh.. man I did search a bit too.. meh I am lazy.. I'll just take the hand outs :P

TheAbominatrix
06-10-2005, 08:37 AM
Because I love you guys ever so much, I'll zip up all the art and upload is somewhere for you to download. So check back here in a bit!

Azure Chrysanthemum
06-10-2005, 08:40 AM
*worships*

theundeadhero
06-10-2005, 09:35 AM
Does the word child-porn mean anything to any of you?I would say it means something very special to us all.

Armisael
06-10-2005, 12:42 PM
This thread is getting off topic or is it just me?

TheAbominatrix
06-10-2005, 01:09 PM
Here's a bunch, sorted like I sort them on my comp.

More will come later, because I need to break the bigger files into smaller bits so I can upload them.

http://www.geocities.com/jun_nambu_agent3/Allies.zip
http://www.geocities.com/jun_nambu_agent3/CayenneGaramonde.zip
http://www.geocities.com/jun_nambu_agent3/Celes1.zip
http://www.geocities.com/jun_nambu_agent3/Celes2.zip
http://www.geocities.com/jun_nambu_agent3/Celes3.zip
http://www.geocities.com/jun_nambu_agent3/ClydeArrowny.zip
http://www.geocities.com/jun_nambu_agent3/EdgarFigaro.zip
http://www.geocities.com/jun_nambu_agent3/Enemies.zip
http://www.geocities.com/jun_nambu_agent3/Gau.zip
http://www.geocities.com/jun_nambu_agent3/Gogo.zip

Right-click save as should work.

Now, lets steer this conversation somewhere back on track.

Any other FFVI couples you guys like? I always wished Daryl and Setzer would have gotten together.

Azure Chrysanthemum
06-11-2005, 07:12 AM
I think that Celes and Locke are probably the most likely pairing. If I see Relm getting with ANYONE I will say Gau simply because they're about the same age, but I honestly don't see anything for her as she's just too young to be interested. As far as Terra, I'm not entirely sure. I never got any Terra/Leo feelings, nor did I see her with any of the other characters.

Armisael
06-11-2005, 09:26 AM
Any other FFVI couples you guys like? I always wished Daryl and Setzer would have gotten together.
Maybe Terra and Edgar..I'd like to see this one..

ughhis
06-11-2005, 04:37 PM
http://naimoka.com/index.php?rub=amano&page=ff6-1

I think that's Amano's artwork for Final Fantasy VI. It's beautiful.

Celes & Locke are cute, but at least one yaoi couple must be in there; for my satisfaction. :exdee:

Takara
06-11-2005, 05:19 PM
LOL! I loved that last pic, Kishi.

Del Murder
06-12-2005, 01:08 AM
One of the reasons that this game is so great is that there wasn't some overdone love story shoved down our throats.

Takara
06-12-2005, 01:32 AM
One of the reasons that this game is so great is that there wasn't some overdone love story shoved down our throats.

Agreed. It leaves more to the player's imagination that way. I'm fond of the LockexCeles pairing, but if someone likes the LockexTerra one better, it could work too.

Faith
06-12-2005, 07:12 AM
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v451/tsopics/paul.jpg
^^If Relm and Edgar were to mate and have babies.

But to get back on subject...
I do think that Celes and Locke do get together, mostly because of the scene with the choking bird (the bird wrapped in the scarf/bandana thing) and the scene shown at the end. And for Terra and Leo...sure why not? Give the kids some hope.

Kawaii Ryűkishi
06-12-2005, 07:17 AM
Thanks to all the inbreeding among Figaro royalty.

Faith
06-12-2005, 07:23 AM
Thanks to all the inbreeding among Figaro royalty.

Well, what do you expect? There are only about 50 people living on a magical castle that travels through sand.

Takara
06-13-2005, 12:03 AM
Figaro Castle isn't magical, it's actually pretty high-tech compared to the rest of FFVI's world. It's only second to Vector's technology, IMO.

Kawaii Ryűkishi
06-13-2005, 12:17 AM
It's magical to the extent that you'd need magic to get something like that to work correctly in reality.

Takara
06-13-2005, 08:20 AM
Details. :p Let me live in my dellusion that Figaro Castle is a mechanical masterpiece, yo!

Rini
06-17-2005, 09:58 PM
At first I, too, thought it was going to be Terra & Locke, but boy was I wrong :P
Towards the end of the game it was quite sure that it was going to be Celes with Locke, after he'd gotten over Rachel. Or well, if he didn't, they could always get a hot threesome with Phoenix if they wanted :D
(okay sorry, maybe that was too far off x))

Heartless
06-17-2005, 10:03 PM
I always believed that Locke and Celes would get together.When i made it to the end of the game,i was convinced that i was right.It's very clear that they have intense feelings for each other.
As for Terra and Leo,i don't believe that they would have a chance.I just cannot picture them.

Tama2
06-17-2005, 10:26 PM
Why wouldn't Locke and Celes be together?

Armisael
06-21-2005, 03:05 PM
Why wouldn't Locke and Celes be together?
Um..What do you mean by that?