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Elpizo
04-13-2006, 02:59 PM
Well... I'm about to enter Memoria now.
Cause I'm the 'unsure' type, I wanted to get some advice.

Are there any abilities (either action or support) that are absolutely needed?
I'm planning to enter with Zidane, Dagger, Vivi and Freya, is that a good idea, or do you all suggest to take another party? Well, even if I beat them with this party, I'm still gonna go for it with everybody I left behind...

Oh, another thing. I'm currently doing the Chocobo quest to get Ultima weapon. Is Ultima Weapon a must to take on all those bosses in Memoria? Or is 'The Tower' good enough?

This is the last question, I promis! What lv do you all recommend to take on Kuja, Necron and all the others?

See? Told you it was the last one.

The Void
04-13-2006, 03:41 PM
One thing you should equip is Body Temp, cos there's a boss early on who uses Mustard Bomb, and it could wipe out your entire party (it's done it to me before :mad2: ). Also equip Auto-Regan,Hp 10+20%,Locomotion,Antibody and Counter on the characters you can. On Zidane's ultimate weapon you don't really need it but get it you can anyway, you should have some powerful weapons for the others though, and good armour too. On Kuja and Necron you can beat them at level 45+, there not that hard, just make sure you've got Locomotion on against Necron. Hope that helps :p .

Dell
04-13-2006, 03:56 PM
Body Temp, HP+20%, HP10%, Locomotion, Antibody, Jelly, Bright Eyes, Clear Headed, Auto-Regen and Auto-Potion. Some Ability you need.

You might want to change Dagger with Eiko, since she's powerful with healing, your white mage/summoner is to heal for the battle. If you're a big fun of Dagger, change Vivi for Eiko. If Freya can do 9999 damage with Dragon's Crest then have her, if not, it best to have Steiner change for Freya, Quina is useful here, I rather not talk about Amarant, Change Zidane for Freya if you need. My party is Zidane, Vivi, Eiko and Steiner.

Ultima Weapon isn't neccessary but kick-ass, it best to hold more stronger weapon.

Depends on your stat, strategy and knowledge about FFIX. You can beat them in level 1 somehow like someother try.

Avathar
04-13-2006, 04:17 PM
:confused: But Zidane's Ultimate Weapon....couldn't you only find that with your chocobo BEFORE you went to Terra? Or am i wrong? ('cause the treasure chest with the weapon was near Shimmering Island, so)

And the level you should be....well, AT LEAST level 40 should do it, i guess, but then those nasty status spells Necron do are a pain in the ass, still:D

Quindiana Jones
04-13-2006, 05:27 PM
It's after the islands have been destroyed.

I can't give any advice on the stuff before Necron, but for Necron I suggest all abilities to guard against status effects, and auto-regen.

I've beaten Necron with Zidane having The Orich-summat-summat, Steiner with Defender...that's all I remember. But no, the best weapons aren't neccesary, but they speed it up alot, and look cool :D

Twilight Edge
04-13-2006, 05:49 PM
First question

Zidane-The Tower's more than enough unless you really want to get Ultima Weapon.I beat the game with Zidane equipped with an Orichalcon(the one bought in Terra).

Dagger-Eiko's better at healing,but if you like Dagger more,it's up to you.

Vivi-No problem,just equip Reflectx2 ability.

Freya-If your Dragon crest can do 9999 damage then use it.If not,go for Dragon breath and Cherry Blossom.

I strongly recommend Amarant for his Chakra skill that can heal your HP and MP.He acn attack and supprt at the same time so he's my best character in the game.DO NOT equip healer on him.It heals the enemy when you attack.My party is Zidane,Vivi,Eiko and Amarant.

Abilities-Anything that includes healing(eg. auto-regen),status immunities,increasing HP(for enduring) and MP(for magic) and some like the others told you.What's locomotion anyway?Never used it so I don't know,can anyone tell me?

Level-40+ should do the trick.Unless you'e confident of entering at 40- go ahaed.

The bosses really aren't that hard,except for tiamat(second boss) which drain your stats,which you will preferably counter with a fast battle.Maliris(first),keep your HP high AT ALL TIMES.Maliris attacks you after you kill him/her which deals quite a kick ass damage.Kraken(third),Don't care about the tentacles,kill the body and you win(if I'm not mistaken).Lich(fourth),try equipping auto float to counter his earthquake attack.As for death,just make sure that your character's level aren't multiples of 5.

Deathguise-Steal the Duel Claws from him if you don't have one.Then,just feed him his own arse.

Kuja-keep your HP high.That's all.

Darth Cid
04-13-2006, 06:25 PM
Zidane: You don't even need a healer if you have Auto-Regen on everyone.

Twilight Edge
04-13-2006, 06:42 PM
Yeah I know,just making it clear that if Amarant attacks the enemy with healer,he heals the enemy.

Elpizo
04-13-2006, 07:32 PM
Yeah I know,just making it clear that if Amarant attacks the enemy with healer,he heals the enemy.
That, I knew ;)

Well, changed my mind, after all. I take Steiner instead of Freya. Currently I'm just getting him learning all the abilities (action, that is) he can. I'm just leveling him up to 40+ a bit. But all the others (Zidane, Garnet and Vivi) are already around 45.

One note, any idea what kind of thingie teaches me Flare? Cause I never ran across it during the game. My strongest Black Magic now is Meteor... Guess that's good to, but Flare is much more awesome :p

And later, I'll do it all again with Amarant, Freya and Eiko.

The Void
04-13-2006, 07:53 PM
A Black Robe teaches Vivi Flare.

Tavrobel
04-13-2006, 08:13 PM
The only thing you need is Locomotion, Body Temp, Clear-Headed, Antibody, and Loudmouth for fighitng Necron. If you have Flare, Curaga, Holy, and Pheonix, you should be fine. Auto-Haste, MP attack, and Auto-Life is also useful. I never used Auto-Regen, because Curaga is so godly HP recovery anyways.

The advantage of Amarant is when he Trances, Elan affects all allies, so imagine using Regen/Auto-Life on ALL characters at once, and then following that up with Chakra.

I used Zidane, Steiner, Amarant, Eiko, simply because I wanted to pound Kuja and Necron as fast as I could without having to actually heal or take time to do anything. I would have used Freya if Dragon's Crest did 9999 damage for me...

The Tower, whatever sword you have for Steiner, and Duel Claws for Amarant are good enough. Being 40+ should give you an easy time.

Darth Cid
04-13-2006, 08:25 PM
Zidane: Anything with Zidane and Garnet works, Ultima Weapon equipped on Zidane, Tiger Racket equipped on Garnet, no matter what level it's a done deal.

Elpizo
04-14-2006, 11:10 AM
I'll take Ultima Weapon later. Planning to do all teh side-quests and stuff once I've seen the one I awaited so long: Necron. I liked NeoExDeath so much, and he and Necron are quite alike, so I just want to cut him into pieces, liek I did with Neo. Only difference between Necron and NEo is that NeoExDeath ahs 200 000 hp :p

Let's see... Zidane: Teh Tower, Steiner: Try to get Ultima Sword, or whatever it's called, Vivi: Mace of Zeus, Garnet: Tiger Racket, shouldn't be a problem.

If I can get past Nova Dragon, that is... :mad:

Darth Cid
04-14-2006, 03:31 PM
I'll take Ultima Weapon later. Planning to do all teh side-quests and stuff once I've seen the one I awaited so long: Necron. I liked NeoExDeath so much, and he and Necron are quite alike, so I just want to cut him into pieces, liek I did with Neo. Only difference between Necron and NEo is that NeoExDeath ahs 200 000 hp :p

Let's see... Zidane: Teh Tower, Steiner: Try to get Ultima Sword, or whatever it's called, Vivi: Mace of Zeus, Garnet: Tiger Racket, shouldn't be a problem.

If I can get past Nova Dragon, that is... :mad:

Zidane: Try to get Ragnarok for Steiner or if you're under 12 hours, Exculibur II from Hades to equip on Steiner.

Quindiana Jones
04-14-2006, 03:51 PM
I normally go with Zidane, Steiner, Freya and Amarant. All with their best weapons (except Steiner, he gets second because I don't care about getting Ex2) and all at about lvl 80. With that I can beat Necron just by glaring at him :D. With Necron I tend to just wanna kick his ass to watch the brilliant ending.

Dell
04-14-2006, 06:07 PM
I usually go with my Zidane, Vivi, Eiko and Steiner.

Steiner - Shock is awesome, 9999 damage, his break attack work well, Climhazzard inflict 9000+ damage to all, I don't really care his trances.
Vivi - Doomsday heal me and attack enemies (I equip Shadow-absorbing armor which heal me instead of attacking me, I use it against Ozma, sometimes Ozma absorb it but rarely in my data). Flare is just awesome against one-boss-battle, I equip ReflectX2 which double Vivi's magic when it was reflected and it make Vivi magic goes 9999. Double Black is superb.
Eiko - Being able to learn Curaga and other white magic fast than Garnet, Eiko seriously is better than Garnet, Eiko also specialize in the white magic: Haste, Full-Life, Dispel, Might, Jewel, Holy. Holy can inflict 9999 damage sometimes against Shadow enemy. Moreover, her Curaga heal a lot of my party (I use Curaga on my party in one turn). Haste strengthen Steiner speed, Might increase Zidane's attack, Jewel is like Drain, Dispel remove enemy positive status and Full-Life REVIVES THE MEMBER, Double-White can revive two character in full-HP! Seriously, Eiko is better than Garnet, she also know Phoenix, your lifesaver.
Zidane - STEAL! There's no other better thief than Zidane, Theivery rack-up much damage and his Grand Lethal is amazing.

Twilight Edge
04-14-2006, 06:20 PM
I'll take Ultima Weapon later. Planning to do all teh side-quests and stuff once I've seen the one I awaited so long: Necron. I liked NeoExDeath so much, and he and Necron are quite alike, so I just want to cut him into pieces, liek I did with Neo. Only difference between Necron and NEo is that NeoExDeath ahs 200 000 hp :p

Let's see... Zidane: Teh Tower, Steiner: Try to get Ultima Sword, or whatever it's called, Vivi: Mace of Zeus, Garnet: Tiger Racket, shouldn't be a problem.

If I can get past Nova Dragon, that is... :mad:

Ultima Sword can be bought in Daguerro disk 4.

Nova dragon?Steal the good stuff and pwn him.

Elpizo
04-14-2006, 06:52 PM
Ultima Sword can be bought in Daguerro disk 4.

Nova dragon?Steal the good stuff and pwn him.
The anoying thing is, he pwns me first. Guess I'm doing something wrong...
But thanks for the Ultima Sword tip!

And about all who says I should take Eiko.
Think about it: Should I take Eiko, who's now on lv 27, or Garnet, who's already at lv 43 and has learned all the magic she can, except for the Ark summon?

The Void
04-14-2006, 06:55 PM
Ultima Sword can be bought in Daguerro disk 4.
Can it? I've never seen it, but you can steal it from Nova.

Twilight Edge
04-14-2006, 06:59 PM
You're welcome.

You say Nova Dragon pwns you first?Hmmm...try getting your HP higher and better white magic.His attacks kickass but if your HP is high enough,you can withstand it.Heal always.A little 'I-think-this-HP-is-more-than-enough' thinking will send you downhill fast.That's why it's always advisable to put Eiko for better healing.

Quindiana Jones
04-14-2006, 07:37 PM
but Eiko sucks. :D

Twilight Edge
04-14-2006, 07:45 PM
*Continue to Pure Quin's post*...at summoning damage.

EDIT:WTF,your Eiko *kurt angle chant* SUCK.If that's the case,perhaps your Garnet could be better.Depending on the level,I daresay that Garnet's magic far surpasses Eiko's.But to me,the closer the character levels,the better.Too much concentration on one character(Zidane as an excption) isn't always good.

Elpizo
04-14-2006, 08:14 PM
Well, now I'm gonna slaughter that Nova Dragon! Why? I just bought Excalibur :) Sure, one weapon doesn't mean victory, but, just let Steiner learn Stock Break from Ultima Sword first, then he can equip the Excalibur and his attack is much better. That, and he's close to Trance. I got a Black Robe for Vivi, so he can learn Flare. And I'm thinking of equiping something that can resist wind... Garnet, or Zidane already has that, even absorbs it, Vivi I can give, and Steiner just has much HP.

And I know my Eiko sucks. But I odn't care. I never really liked her. And teh Eidolons she can summon aren't all that great either. Give me Bahamut and I'm happy. But of course, I'll lv her up a bit when I want to beat the game with Zidane, Eiko, Amarant and Freya.

Oh, and if you think my Eiko is bad, Quina is lv 22, no kidding ;)

ECIT: Dagger heals with Curaga around 2500 hp for everybody.

Quindiana Jones
04-14-2006, 09:50 PM
Don't forget drinks and food for the ending.

Elpizo
04-15-2006, 11:27 AM
Hooray! I've beaten Trance Kuja!

And Necron has killed me for about 7 times now -_-
And I can't kill him. Damn that Grand Cross.

The Void
04-15-2006, 11:29 AM
Hooray! I've beaten Trance Kuja!

And Necron has killed me for about 7 times now -_-
And I can't kill him. Damn that Grand Cross.
Equip locomotion, Grand Cross shoulden't effect you with it on.

Quindiana Jones
04-15-2006, 11:34 AM
It can inflict Death, Petrify, Doom all the bad stuff. Just put on the guards from all status things that will stop you having a go. (Jelly, Locomotion, Body Temp etc)

Skyie
04-15-2006, 11:35 AM
Oh man, Eiko in Trance. Double Holy anyone?

Elpizo
04-15-2006, 11:57 AM
Oh man, Eiko in Trance. Double Holy anyone?
You shoudl learn to read, my Eiko is currently at lv 27.

Locomotion... That isn't true. I have it on Vivi and Garnet, and Grand Cross affects them just the same.

I know what it can do (I knew it freom NeoExDeath). That's not the question. It dooms me always, mini's me always or berserks me always. After about ten turns, I think I've done about 10 000 damage to Necron, due to all teh status healing I need to do. And then I forget to mention all the reviving...
I'm probably doing something wrong, bu teverybody is around lv 50, save for Steiner, who's 45 and has HP 20% equiped.
How can anybody say Necron is easy with that annoying attack called Grand Cross? :p

The Void
04-15-2006, 12:07 PM
How can anybody say Necron is easy with that annoying attack called Grand Cross? :p
I find him easy, i always go for an all out attack, Zidane,Steiner,Freya and Amarant, i usally kill him before he get's me. If you.ve got Auto-Regen on you don't need a healer. If Necron casts Doom on someone, use a pheonix down on em. Also make sure you've got the best weapons/armour on everyone.

Elpizo
04-15-2006, 12:11 PM
I find him easy, i always go for an all out attack, Zidane,Steiner,Freya and Amarant, i usally kill him before he get's me. If you.ve got Auto-Regen on you don't need a healer. If Necron casts Doom on someone, use a pheonix down on em. Also make sure you've got the best weapons/armour on everyone.
I have the best I can on everybody. But he still beats me to scrap.
I have auto-regen, and is useless. It heals way to less. NEcron is hard and unbelievably stupid. Kuja should've been the Final Boss.

Quindiana Jones
04-15-2006, 01:41 PM
Everyone says that. Don't get all stressy cos you can't beat him.

Elpizo
04-15-2006, 02:59 PM
Everyone says that. Don't get all stressy cos you can't beat him.
LOL, nah, don't hate him, he's cool, but annoying. I've been away for two hours, now I'll try beating him again.
I would say, train some more, but that's useless, cause his Blue Shockwave reduces my hp to 1.
If he hadn't Grand Cross, he still wouldn't be all that easy. Aw, I'll defeat him, somehow. :)

Quindiana Jones
04-15-2006, 05:33 PM
Auto-Regen is good for Blue Shockwave. To me (and most people, as far as I know) it's a necessity.

Twilight Edge
04-15-2006, 05:35 PM
Look at the attack pattern of Vivi_Ultima.Necron always attack in that pattern so if you fllow his way,you might stand a chance.

EDIT:Plus a tad bit of luck.;)

Elpizo
04-15-2006, 07:56 PM
He's dead. Actually, I slaughtered him three hours ago.
I was lucky, he only used Grand Cross two times, which doomed some characters and braught their hp to 1. Nothing serieus. And Zidane and Steienr came in Trance.
It's strange, I tried this morning 7 times, and I got my ass ahnded to me (LoL), then after 4 hours, I try again, and I win in teh first try. It can only mean one thing; You need luck when taking on Necron. Hoping he doesn't use Grand Cross too often.

I'll post a "My thoughts on this one" topic soon, like I did with FF V.