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BizarroSephiroth
08-11-2006, 05:52 PM
Here is the absolute truth upon the death of our beloved character Aeris so we can all stop asking questions like: Why'd Aeris have to die? And such. And so it goes like this:

Question: Why did Aeris die?



Answer: The main director of Final Fantasy 7 lost his mother just a few years before the creation of this video game. He was so saddened and upset he wanted to share his utter pain with the world, the gaming world. So, he created FF7. In an interview, he said he was so sad he would base his next game on the theme of life and death. In the creation of the game, he set it up so people would get close to a sweet girl named Aeris. As well, in the creation of this game, he created a heartless evil villain named Sephiroth. Halfway through the game, Aeris is killed by Sephiroth. In the most dramatic and saddening 1st sequence, battle, and second sequence, along with the cinematics, we witness what has been voted, by gamers around the world, as the saddest cinema ever showed in video games. In the scene Aeris prays innocently to the planet while Sephiroth drives a sword through her back. After facing the boss, Jenova LIFE, we watch her burial, where she sinks to the bottom of the Forgotten City's lake, as well as we hear her ultimately saddening theme song. In the end, Aeris was there. She was always there to support the team. She had never left. So, in the end, Aeris was killed in cold blood by the game's director, not completely by Sephiroth

McLovin'
08-11-2006, 06:11 PM
She was in Advent Children.

BizarroSephiroth
08-11-2006, 06:15 PM
She was in Advent Children.

Yea, but she wasn't alive. Be smart.

Jimmy Dark Aeons Slayer
08-11-2006, 06:18 PM
She´s not my beloved character actually it´s pretty much the opposite i think Sephiroth deed everyone a favour when he killed her.

f f freak
08-11-2006, 06:24 PM
Yes he did JDAS and you remember that. No more having to have her in your party.

McLovin'
08-11-2006, 06:33 PM
I had a mission to get her LV4 Limit but then I got tired of training a useless pink woman.

Jimmy Dark Aeons Slayer
08-11-2006, 06:40 PM
Actually when i first saw the scene of her death i thought Sephiroth was going to decapitate her.

And if you ask me i have a more plausibe reason for her death the director of the game was playing the the game before it was released and then he thought to himself...

"Hey wtf!?What the hell was i thinking when i added this stupid pink thing in the game!!!Who had this pathetic idea!?Was it you Jin Sun!?Well you´re FIRED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!And kill this abomination of a character i hate pink!!!!:mad2: "

Vyk
08-11-2006, 06:53 PM
That's only a half truth. Not to mention its a really old rumor. Where did you copy that from? It sounds too pompous to be an average message board goer's post.

Also, Sephiroth didn't kill Aeris :] He was frozen in the crater up north during the course of the game.

Distain
08-11-2006, 07:01 PM
To cuase a small war between the fanboys/fangirls who loved her and hated her as he laughs in the background. Damn you Mr. game Director dude. Damn you to hel*. (shake's fist)

Ryushikaze
08-11-2006, 07:24 PM
No, Kitase's mother died ten years before FF7. He was NOT referring to FF7 in his interview, and a simple look at the date of the interview would reveal that. Oi.

And it was Nomura who came up with the idea of killing Aerith, which he and Nojima expanded into contrasting between the overblown sacrifice of Cait and the cold murder of Aerith, in order to strike out at the cliche.

The only writing credit Kitase has for FF7 is the concept of the lifestream.

Addendum: Yes, Sephiroth killed Aerith. Sephiroth IS Jenova. He is its mind, its will. It was not his body, but it was his doing.

boys from the dwarf
08-11-2006, 07:26 PM
the scene where sephiroth kills aeris (yes. we all know by now that its not sephiroth but a clone of sephiroth but its easier just to say "when sephiroth kills aeris.)

anyway. the scene where sephiroth kills aeris is one of the best on the game. not because aeris died but becuase of how harsh and cold sephiroth is. this is a script for that scene.

Cloud
"...Aerith."

(He gently shakes her body.)

Cloud
"This can't be real!"

Sephiroth
"Do not worry. Soon the girl will become part of the Planet's
energy."
"All that is left is to go North. The 'Promised Land' waits for
me over the snowy fields."
"There I will become a new being by uniting with the planet. As
will this girl...

Cloud
"...Shut up."

(He bows his head closer to Aerith, trembling. He abruptly looks up to
Sephiroth.)

Cloud
"The cycle of nature and your stupid plan don't mean a thing."

(He slowly turns his head back to Aerith's sleeping face.)

Cloud
"Aerith is gone."
"Aerith will no longer talk, no longer laugh, cry...... or get
angry......"

(He holds her body closer to his and bows his head forward.)

Cloud
"What about us...... what are WE supposed to do?"

(He gently rests her on the floor.)

Cloud
"What about my pain?"

(He trembles.)

Cloud
"My fingers are tingling.
My mouth is dry.
My eyes are burning!"

(Sephiroth moves for the first time. He slowly lowers his arms and looks
at Cloud.)

Sephiroth
"What are you saying? Are you trying to tell me you have feelings
too?"

(Cloud quickly stands up to face Sephiroth.)

Cloud
"Of course! Who do you think I am!?"

(Sephiroth starts to laugh.)

Sephiroth
"Ha, ha, ha...... Stop acting as if you were sad."
"There's no need to act as though you're angry either."

(He rises into the air, looking down at Cloud.)

Sephiroth
"Because, Cloud. You are..."

(He rockets, spinning, high up into the air. His body becomes a tiny green
sphere, which lands at Cloud's feet. The screen glows red. Cloud covers
his eyes.)

(Boss battle with Jenova-LIFE)

(The screen goes black.)

Jenova
"Because, you are...... a puppet."

Cloud
"I'm...... a puppet?"

the bit where sephiroth talks so cruelly is an incredible part. how can he be so cold? i never liked aeris much and out of all of the FF7 main characters she was my least favourite. she just didnt seems as interesting. her just plain being nice is boring at times and not as interesting as other characters. shes msterious too but that never really attracted my attention either.

where did you get that information from bizzarosephiroth?

Aralith
08-11-2006, 09:25 PM
As Ryushikaze said, Kitase was not talking about FFVII. This interview refers to what happened in FFIII. So please, can this old rumor finally be dropped. This s*** has been drug around the internet for years. It's starting to become like the "Aerith was supposed to be revived" rumor. It's all worthless s***.

SilverPhoenix42
08-12-2006, 04:47 AM
Aeris was the most amazing character in the entire game. After her death everyone can see that Sephiroth (and his minions) are completely evil. The driving force to destroy this evil makes everyone want to finish the game and wipe that knowing smirk off of Sephiroth's effing face.

And she's really not useless in the game, my party really suffered after she left. Her limit breaks are priceless for their ability to heal the party and her skill with materia is unmatched. She's also sexy.

Zeromus_X
08-12-2006, 05:06 AM
'The Truth (Spoilers)' or something along those lines as a thread title would be great.

Anyway, she died because, well, someone has to die. Goodness,it isn't like a playable character in an RPG hasn't died before. Ryushikaze's explanation seems to work (he cites the creators as a source, so it isn't like I can argue with that).

I keep stumbling apon more info on this game everyday. Sheezus.

Ryushikaze
08-12-2006, 06:12 AM
Aeris was the most amazing character in the entire game. After her death everyone can see that Sephiroth (and his minions) are completely evil. The driving force to destroy this evil makes everyone want to finish the game and wipe that knowing smirk off of Sephiroth's effing face.

I think him slaughtering all of Nibleheim was enough to prove his evil. Killing civvies is a lot more evil than killing the person who is directly opposing your plan. One is common sense. The other is excess.
Addendum: Actually, her death did not make me want to finish the game. I had all the necessary motivation already.


And she's really not useless in the game, my party really suffered after she left. Her limit breaks are priceless for their ability to heal the party and her skill with materia is unmatched. She's also sexy.

Her limits were nice but often redundant or unnecessary. Her Magic stat was higher than anyone else's, but not by much, and not enought to make up for all her other much lower stats.
Her sexiness is your own perogative, but is really irrelevant to her usefulness.

Oh yeah, and Galuf and Leo at least fought back against the evil boss.

Dr. Acula
08-12-2006, 08:10 AM
The truth is, her death makes ff7 really memorable. Originally there was no Tifa, and Aeris was the main female character. Then one of the creators said, "Hey, let's kill off Aeris and bring in Tifa." But her death is what makes ff7 a really good game.

Aralith
08-12-2006, 08:20 AM
Umm... Dr. Acula, actually Aerith's death was planned from the beginning. I don't know where you heard otherwise, but the writers of the game have stated before that they intended for Aerith to die from the minute Nomura created her. To add to this they said something like, "We wanted to show that death is unexpected. In other games you always have the character sacrificing himself for his loved ones and then him coming back later in the game. We wanted to show that death isn't always dramatic, that it is something that is irreversible."

It was something like that. I don't remember the exact quote and I'm not going to go looking for it, but this should show that Aerith's death was always planned. There was never any plan for her to be the "main female". And if there's any of you on here that believe that the creators intended for Aerith to be ressurected but that it was taken out, hopefully this will put those thoughts to rest as well.

Dr. Acula
08-12-2006, 08:40 AM
Umm... Dr. Acula, actually Aerith's death was planned from the beginning. I don't know where you heard otherwise, but the writers of the game have stated before that they intended for Aerith to die from the minute Nomura created her. To add to this they said something like, "We wanted to show that death is unexpected. In other games you always have the character sacrificing himself for his loved ones and then him coming back later in the game. We wanted to show that death isn't always dramatic, that it is something that is irreversible."

It was something like that. I don't remember the exact quote and I'm not going to go looking for it, but this should show that Aerith's death was always planned. There was never any plan for her to be the "main female". And if there's any of you on here that believe that the creators intended for Aerith to be ressurected but that it was taken out, hopefully this will put those thoughts to rest as well.

Hmm...my sources must have been wrong. Ah, well, whatyagonnado.:D
And, yeah, she wasn't supposed to be ressurected. I knew that much.

Jimmy Dark Aeons Slayer
08-12-2006, 09:37 AM
Nop Tifa is the real female lead, Aeris is just a playable character for a part of the game like Banon or Blank and Marcus, they killed her because they thought her relation with Cloud was pathetic especially with the way it started.

boys from the dwarf
08-12-2006, 10:00 AM
ill agree with that. the relationship between cloud and aeris is boring. its just so plain and boring and nothing compared to things like squall and rinoa in FF8. thats the reason i disliked aeris. she was uninteresting as a character. id still like to know where bizzaro sephiroth got that info from.

BanKotSu
08-12-2006, 10:23 AM
o_O nuff' said

Vyk
08-12-2006, 10:51 AM
Why are you comparing it to Squall and Rinoa? Did you play FF8 before 7 or something?

Ryushikaze
08-12-2006, 05:58 PM
Umm... Dr. Acula, actually Aerith's death was planned from the beginning. I don't know where you heard otherwise, but the writers of the game have stated before that they intended for Aerith to die from the minute Nomura created her. To add to this they said something like, "We wanted to show that death is unexpected. In other games you always have the character sacrificing himself for his loved ones and then him coming back later in the game. We wanted to show that death isn't always dramatic, that it is something that is irreversible."

It was something like that. I don't remember the exact quote and I'm not going to go looking for it, but this should show that Aerith's death was always planned. There was never any plan for her to be the "main female". And if there's any of you on here that believe that the creators intended for Aerith to be ressurected but that it was taken out, hopefully this will put those thoughts to rest as well.

Hmm...my sources must have been wrong. Ah, well, whatyagonnado.:D
And, yeah, she wasn't supposed to be ressurected. I knew that much.

Actually, Aerith wasn't meant to die from day one- in the very beginning of the game's development, very little was determined. It was, however, one of the very first things decided in development, and came about as soon as Tifa and the other characters (the very bare bones original game apparently only had Cloud, Aerith, and Barret. It didn't even have Sephy yet then) came into play.

Dynast-Kid
08-12-2006, 06:13 PM
Why didn't Cloud just use a Phoenix Down on Aerith?

Christmas
08-12-2006, 06:53 PM
Why didn't Cloud just use a Phoenix Down on Aerith?



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Dynast-Kid
08-12-2006, 07:00 PM
Lol!

Ryushikaze
08-12-2006, 07:15 PM
On a more serious note: Pheonix down cures KO, not Chest piercings.

Zeromus_X
08-12-2006, 07:41 PM
This is slightly off-topic, but what game in the series switched from 'dead' to 'knocked out' when incapacitated in battle?

Or we could just say...


"Mommy, why didn't they just use a Phoenix Down on Aeris?"
Don't expect battle mechanics to carry over into the "real world."

Toodleena
08-12-2006, 08:34 PM
For me and my game, she died thismorning. I have to say I prefered Tifa. That's some interesting information about the director though...

Mirage
08-12-2006, 08:49 PM
This is slightly off-topic, but what game in the series switched from 'dead' to 'knocked out' when incapacitated in battle?

Or we could just say...


"Mommy, why didn't they just use a Phoenix Down on Aeris?"
Don't expect battle mechanics to carry over into the "real world."

Not sure. I do however know that some of the games used "wounded" instead.

And yes indeed, battle mechanics do not carry over to the real world. I can't think of a single game that does. Oh, Krile seemed to think they did, as she tried tons of curative spells and items on Galuf. She was proved wrong though.

f f freak
08-12-2006, 09:46 PM
After her death everyone can see that Sephiroth (and his minions) are completely evil. The driving force to destroy this evil makes everyone want to finish the game and wipe that knowing smirk off of Sephiroth's effing face.

Actually the bit that made me want to finish the game was that flashback bit where he slashes Tifa. I said some bad words then.Aeris's Death made me want to thank Sephiroth for doing it. Or Jenova whatever one it was.

Distain
08-12-2006, 10:03 PM
On a more serious note: Pheonix down cures KO, not Chest piercings.

Haha what? You mean Aries pulled a Janet Jackson?!? And we all though she was inocent....

Ryushikaze
08-12-2006, 10:14 PM
On a more serious note: Pheonix down cures KO, not Chest piercings.

Haha what? You mean Aries pulled a Janet Jackson?!? And we all though she was inocent....

We did? Was there a memo I missed?

Pure Aerisbeauty7
08-14-2006, 04:23 AM
Oh. I wish he didn't have to create FF7 to make Aeris die. Aeris didn't deserve to die.:(

Ryushikaze
08-14-2006, 05:47 AM
...::sigh:: Please read the thread before responding. HE DIDN'T MAKE FF7 TO KILL AERITH.

Vyk
08-14-2006, 12:11 PM
o_0 chill dude. You over-react quite a bit

Ryushikaze
08-14-2006, 04:11 PM
I get irritated when people respond without reading a thread, especially when said thread corrects the initial post.

Vyk
08-15-2006, 12:11 AM
Its a common practice for a lot of people to respond only to the first post. Whether it be a wise decision or not :]

Aralith
08-15-2006, 12:21 AM
Yes but when the post is corrected no more than three posts later, you think people would get it. I feel the same way as Ryushikaze does about this. When it's something like this, one should definitely read on. If it's an opinion thread, you're probably okay just reading the first post and then replying, but something like this should be read through a little ways.