Really? I might play it then.
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Really? I might play it then.
It is made by almost the same team, and it also has taken 125341 decades to come out, so that's very Diablo-ish.
I doubt my PC could even run it. The game looks too pretty. I demand it be uglier!
Heh, I'll be buying a Paladin something or other for 1.5 k after boot camp, I'm not worried about that computer being able to run it.
The Sims 3 is Diablo 3
I know I'm a slacker, but my comp teh sucks. New account name is Karmatose. Server is down, but I will probably finally start my new char later today/night
http://i68.photobucket.com/albums/i2...eenshot019.jpg
DO NOT WANT MOAR SORC.
Chimney, do you remember Mystic_Power? He was in the game where we were killing Mephisto and everybody started dying. The one where they all freaked out and were like, "Ur all noobs omg omg omg omg." Then you came in 3/4 of the way through, long after the troubles started, and they all said it was your fault :laugh:
My Paladin only needs a few more levels until he can start using Conviction. AID ME!
Hellgate:London uses guns and :skull::skull::skull::skull:.
Diablo is rife with swords, axes and sweat.
Although Hellgate looks interesting, and I will likely purchase and play it, it won't have the same effect on me as Diablo did/does. I want swords and ancient, troubled times - not pseudo-Fallout... things.
But I would love to be proven wrong.
They probably only went the gun route to try something new and distance the comparisons to Diablo as much as possible (though they're still similar in terms of dark-fantasy atmosphere anyway). Bows, guns, it's all the same *waves hand*
I don't think many games will match the impact of Diablo or what the sequel became. They refined the hack-n'-slash genre to a new level, and it's one the most heavily copied games ever. It's pretty amazing how they made a game composed almost entirely of clicking one button over and over so fun and addictive.
I actually feel bad for them >_> The pressure to spit out something crazy-omg-new is really on, and the same still holds true for Blizzard's other franchises still going. It's like the Final Fantasy of PCs.
Blizzard does receive a lot of hate/love.
Sometimes I begin feeling bad for them, and then I think of Iron Maiden...
Fixed.Quote:
Originally Posted by Nominus Experse
My only problem with the upcoming London thingy.
is that Guns are probably going to be a massive imbalance... unless they are like... really weak or something.
Why is the Clay Golem the only one that gets more life per point? The others only get it from a synergy with Blood Golem or Golem Mastery.
In fact, I tested it using that thingie I always use to test skills, and Clay Golem actually gets more life per point in it than it does leveling Golem Mastery. My Poisonmancer used Clay Golem and put points in the actual skill, defying Chimney's advice to do Golem Mastery instead because I just thought he was retarded. But it seems to be special, so normally he is right.
If Fire Golem is going to cost all my mana, I demand it get billions of life *throws a dinner plate*
Well, the whole natural HP boost per difficulty level is nice, I'll at least give it that *glues dinner plate together again*.
Because according to Blizzard, it doesn't have any special properties. It's not spectacular or special. Fire Golem has Holy Fire, Fire Absorb, and a Fire attack. Blood Golem shares, steals, and distributes HP. Metal Golem has Thorns and properites of a metal item, of many are extremely good. All of the following can potentially be abused in incredible ways, except Clay Golem; of which has a something close to 90% Slow and massive HP, even if it does take damage from everything, makes it the far more valuable of ALL of the golems.Quote:
Originally Posted by LunarWeaver
That's why?! xD
Slows Enemy > 1-3 damage Holy Fire aura.
Okay, I took a gander here. This is with Golem Master at level 20, and then Clay and Fire each at level 20.
Clay Golem
creates a golem from the earth
to fight by your side
Attack: 940
Defense: 135
Current Skill Level: 20
Life: 3863
Life: 6760 (N)
Life: 10623 (H)
Damage: 17-44
Damage: 17-53 (N)
Damage: 26-61 (H)
Attack Bonus: +400
Slows Enemies: 63 percent
Mana Cost: 72
Fire Golem
creates a golem that converts the damage
it receives from fire into life
Life: 1580
Life: 3095 (N)
Life: 5115 (H)
Attack: 1020
Defense: 235
Current Skill Level: 20
Absorbs 88 percent fire damage
Damage: 10-27
Damage: 15-39 (N)
Damage: 18-47 (H)
Fire Damage: 401-449
Holy Fire 34-36
Mana Cost: 240
Here's a helpful Key:
Blue= Yes, please.
Red= Lol, nothx.
I have to remake my entire summoner later because I don't want Fire Golem anymore. Maybe if he absorbed Lightning... *eyes the Soul family of monsters*
Since the Fire Golem is completely immune to Fire attacks anyways, he won't absorb any of the Fire damage done to him.
Yay Blizzard.
Also, if you have any questions regarding a Necromancer's pets, use this calculator:
Necromancer Pet Calculator
Remember that the character and skill screen lie as they show smurfed up/incomplete data... So using calculators is best in such situations.
Yeah, a Fire Golem can be quite useful in places like the Sewers in act 2.
I thought that a list of low-level/cheap runewords would be useful, and so here they are:
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Steel
Char. Level:13
2 Socket
Swords / Axes / Maces
Tir
El
20% Enhanced Damage
+3 To Minimum Damage
+3 To Maximum Damage
+50 To Attack Rating
50% Chance Of Open Wounds
25% Increased Attack Speed
+2 To Mana After Each Kill
+1 To Light Radius
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Nadir
Char. Level:13
2 Socket
Helms
Nef
Tir
+50% Enhanced Defense
+10 Defense
+30 Defense vs. Missile
Level 13 Cloak of Shadows (9 Charges)
+2 To Mana After Each Kill
+5 To Strength
-33% Extra Gold From Monsters
-3 To Light Radius
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Malice
Char. Level:15
3 Socket
Melee Weapons
Ith
El
Eth
+33% Enhanced Damage
+9 To Maximum Damage
100% Chance Of Open Wounds
-25% Target Defense
-100 To Monster Defense Per Hit
Prevent Monster Heal
+50 To Attack Rating
Drain Life -5
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Stealth
Char. Level:17
2 Socket
Body Armor
Tal
Eth
Magic Damage Reduced By 3
+6 To Dexterity
+15 To Maximum Stamina
Poison Resist +30%
Regenerate Mana 15%
25% Faster Run/Walk
25% Faster Cast Rate
25% Faster Hit Recovery
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Leaf
Char. Level:19
2 Socket
Staves
NOTE: Staves does not
include Orbs
Tir
Ral
Adds 5-30 Fire Damage
+3 To Fire Skills
+3 To Fire Bolt (Sorceress Only)
+3 To Inferno (Sorceress Only)
+3 To Warmth (Sorceress Only)
+2 To Mana After Each Kill
+ (2 Per Character Level) +2-198 To Defense (Based On Character Level)
Cold Resist +33%
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Strength
Char. Level:25
2 Socket
Melee Weapons
Amn
Tir
35% Enhanced Damage
25% Chance Of Crushing Blow
7% Life Stolen Per Hit
+2 To Mana After Each Kill
+20 To Strength
+10 To Vitality
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Lore
Char. Level:27
2 Socket
Helms
Ort
Sol
+1 To All Skill Levels
+10 To Energy
+2 To Mana After Each Kill
Lightning Resist +30%
Damage Reduced By 7
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Ancient's Pledge
Char. Level:21
3 Socket
Shields
Ral
Ort
Tal
+50% Enhanced Defense
Cold Resist +43%
Fire Resist +48%
Lightning Resist +48%
Poison Resist +48%
10% Damage Goes To Mana
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Zephyr
Char. Level:21
2 Socket
Missile Weapons
Ort
Eth
+33% Enhanced Damage
+66 To Attack Rating
Adds 1-50 Lightning Damage
-25% Target Defense
+25 Defense
25% Faster Run/Walk
25% Increased Attack Speed
7% Chance To Cast Level 1 Twister When Struck
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Holy Thunder
Char. Level:21
4 Socket
Scepters
Eth
Ral
Ort
Tal
+60% Enhanced Damage
-25% Target Defense
Adds 5-30 Fire Damage
Adds 21-110 Lightning Damage
+75 Poison Damage Over 5 Seconds
+10 To Maximum Damage
Lightning Resistance +60%
+5 To Maximum Lightning Resistance
+3 To Holy Shock (Paladin Only)
Level 7 Chain Lightning (60 Charges)
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Edge
Char. Level:25
3 Socket
Missile Weapons
Tir
Tal
Amn
Level 15 Thorns Aura When Equipped
+35% Increased Attack Speed
+320-380% Damage To Demons (varies)
+280% Damage To Undead
+75 Poison Damage Over 5 Seconds
7% Life Stolen Per Hit
Prevent Monster Heal
+5-10 To All Attributes (varies)
+2 To Mana After Each Kill
Reduces All Vendor Prices 15%
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Spirit
Char. Level:25
4 Socket
Swords / Shields
Tal
Thul
Ort
Amn
Weapons:
+2 To All Skills
+25-35% Faster Cast Rate (varies)
+55% Faster Hit Recovery
Adds 1-50 Lightning Damage
Adds 3-14 Cold Damage 3 Second Duration (Normal)
+75 Poison Damage Over 5 Seconds
7% Life Stolen Per Hit
+250 Defense Vs. Missile
+22 To Vitality
+89-112 To Mana (varies)
+3-8 Magic Absorb (varies)
Shields:
+2 To All Skills
+25-35% Faster Cast Rate (varies)
+55% Faster Hit Recovery
+250 Defense Vs. Missile
+22 To Vitality
+89-112 To Mana (varies)
Cold Resist +35%
Lightning Resist +35%
Poison Resist +35%
+3-8 Magic Absorb (varies)
Attacker Takes Damage of 14
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King's Grace
Char. Level:25
3 Socket
Swords / Scepters
Amn
Ral
Thul
+100% Enhanced Damage
+100% Damage To Demons
+50% Damage To Undead
Adds 5-30 Fire Damage
Adds 3-14 Cold Damage - 3 Second Duration
+150 To Attack Rating
+100 To Attack Rating Against Demons
+100 To Attack Rating Against Undead
7% Life Stolen Per Hit
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Honor
Char. Level:27
5 Socket
Melee Weapons
Amn
El
Ith
Tir
Sol
+160% Enhanced Damage
+9 To Minimum Damage
+9 To Maximum Damage
25% Deadly Strike
+250 To Attack Rating
+1 to All Skills
7% Life Stolen Per Hit
Replenish Life +10
+10 To Strength
+1 To Light Radius
+2 To Mana After Each Kill
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Radiance
Char. Level:27
3 Socket
Helms
Nef
Sol
Ith
+75% Enhanced Defense
+30 Defense Vs. Missile
+10 To Energy
+10 To Vitality
15% Damage Goes To Mana
Magic Damage Reduced By 3
+33 To Mana
Damage Reduced By 7
+5 To Light Radius
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Insight
Char. Level:27
4 Socket
Polearms / Staves
Ral
Tir
Tal
Sol
Level 10-17 Meditation Aura When Equipped (varies)
+35% Faster Cast Rate
+200-260% Enhanced Damage (varies)
+9 To Minimum Damage
180-250% Bonus to Attack Rating (varies)
Adds 5-30 Fire Damage
+75 Poison Damage Over 5 Seconds
+1-6 To Critical Strike (varies)
+5 To All Attributes
+2 To Mana After Each Kill
23% Better Chance of Getting Magic Items
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Peace (Amazon)
Char. Level:29
3 Socket
Body Armor
Shael
Thul
Amn
4% Chance To Cast Level 5 Slow Missiles When Struck
2% Chance To Cast level 15 Valkyrie On Striking
+2 To Amazon Skill Levels
+20% Faster Hit Recovery
+2 To Critical Strike
Cold Resist +30%
Attacker Takes Damage of 14
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Rhyme
Char. Level:29
2 Socket
Shields
Shael
Eth
20% Increased Chance of Blocking
40% Faster Block Rate
All Resistances +25
Regenerate Mana 15%
Cannot Be Frozen
50% Extra Gold From Monsters
25% Better Chance Of Getting Magic Items
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White
Char. Level:35
2 Socket
Wands
Dol
Io
Hit Causes Monster To Flee 25%
+10 To Vitality
+3 To Poison And Bone Skills (Necromancer Only)
+3 To Bone Armor (Necromancer Only)
+2 To Bone Spear (Necromancer Only)
+4 To Skeleton Mastery (Necromancer Only)
Magic Damage Reduced By 4
20% Faster Cast Rate
+13 To Mana
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Black
Char. Level:35
3 Socket
Clubs / Hammers / Maces
Thul
Io
Nef
+120% Enhanced Damage
40% Chance Of Crushing Blow
+200 To Attack Rating
Adds 3-14 Cold Damage - Cold Duration 3 Seconds
+10 To Vitality
15% Increased Attack Speed
Knockback
Magic Damage Reduced By 2
Level 4 Corpse Explosion (12 Charges)
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Splendor
Char. Level:37
v1.10 - 1.11Only
2 Socket
Shields
Eth
Lum
+1 To All Skills
+10% Faster Cast Rate
+20% Faster Block Rate
+60-100% Enhanced Defense (varies)
+10 To Energy
Regenerate Mana 15%
50% Extra Gold From Monsters
20% Better Chance of Getting Magic Items
+3 To Light Radius
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Harmony
Char. Level:39
4 Socket
Missile Weapons
Tir
Ith
Sol
Ko
Level 10 Vigor Aura When Equipped
+200-275% Enhanced Damage (varies)
+9 To Minimum Damage
+9 To Maximum Damage
Adds 55-160 Lightning Damage
Adds 55-160 Fire Damage
Adds 55-160 Cold Damage
+2-6 To Valkyrie (varies)
+10 To Dexterity
Regenerate Mana 20%
+2 To Mana After Each Kill
+2 To Light Radius
Level 20 Revive (25 Charges)
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I have found making Stealth, Leaf, White, Zephyr, Lore, and most of all Insight, useful.
But there are plenty of others that I haven't once bothered using/trying.
Also, as a last note, remember that Class-specific white/superior items can spawn with up to three [four?] +3 Class Specific Skill modifiers.
i.e.:
Grim Wand
+3 Bone Spear
+3 Teeth
+3 Bone Armour / Bone Spirit
2 open Sockets
Making a White (Dol + Io) would make this a truly extraordinary wand for a Bone Necromancer.
Same thing can be done with a +Skill Staff when making Leaf, or making a Splendor out of a Voodoo head with +Skills as well, etcetera etcetera....
Yeah, but doesn't the game cap + Skills to 3 if it's relevant to the character? Or is that only if the + Skill is unspecified, like Enigma's Teleport?
Hmm, I don't know exactly, but for one reason or another, such a thing works with White and Splendor on Wands and Voodoo heads, so I assume that such a thing would work on other class-specific items as well.
I also know that creating a Delirium out of a a Druid's or Barbarian's helm allows you to reach the +5 marks in _____ skill(s).
I really don't know. Let me check Arreat's.
EDIT: I can't find it anywhere on Arreat's, though I know of what you speak of Giga.
EDIT II: Hah! Found it:
Quote:
Originally Posted by Arreat's
So judging by that is only for oskills...not something that specifies the class.
OSkills are fun. Anyways, I want a 4Os sword with low Dex (Broad Sword or Crystal Sword). I want that damned Spirit so bloody smurfing bad, and if no one helps me, then no one gets the bonus damage of Conviction.
What is thy bidding my lord?Quote:
Originally Posted by Tavrobel
Quote:
Originally Posted by Giga Guess
:pQuote:
Originally Posted by Tavrobel
And the Amn and Thul runes. I imagine that I'll be finding the Sol for Insight myself using my NM Forge.
WTF? I've been realm-downed for like two hours...
smurf, I am only checking to see if I can smurfing play once every 30 minutes, and yet you continue to smurf me over?
Jesus...
/end rant
They really need to change this whole realm-downed... thing.
Mmm...........reset.........
How to Bug Andariel's Drops
So that Cim and Lunar will shut up
What is it?
Basically, what you mean to do is make it so that Andariel will forever drop what is termed as her "quest drop". You may have noticed that when you kill Andy for the quest, she never drops gold, potions, etc... This is because Blizzard happened to include a certain parameter that has her dropping only Magics, Rares, or Uniques - the "quest drop - whenever a character is slaying Andariel for the quest.
I suppose the aim was to make the quest more fulfilling, but there is a series of events you can perform to ALWAYS benefit from such a thing.
How to do it
1. Kill Andariel for quest
2. Take the portal back to the Rogue Encampment
3. Talk to Warriv and chose the option "Go East"
4. Save and exit
Basically, you need to simply go east BEFORE saving and exiting the game. This works for all difficulties.
Now maybe I won't hear Lunar and/or Cim complaining about Andy's drops...
You know my bitching makes your masochistic nature all hot and bothered. It's not my fault Andy never drops anything but an Isenhart's case :(
But now Isenhart's is smurfing awesome!
I love Ladder resets
My merc's sad because they only have the case, and not the helm...
I have the case and the helm somewhere. They're sitting in my stash, taunting you.
Edit: If I get a Tir rune, I can make a Leaf I need. I'll give somebody an Ith rune for a Tir :/
I have Tir, I think.
To give or not to *ponders*Quote:
Originally Posted by Cim
:333
Just as a reminder, remember to add Reverie, for that is my Necromancer Ladder account.
MAGIC_BONER has once again come back to bone the enemy - repeatedly
Suffice it to say, you're both freaks. *looks at Cim and Lunar*
By the way, I have at least one of every rune below Thul.
I still need a 4Os sword.
Freaky in the good way.
I miss BOOBZORS :( I demand somebody make a MAGIC_BONER vs. BOOBZORS thread.
My summoner only summons 9 skeletons and that's it. He doesn't use Revive or Mages (though he has them), and people literally throw fits in Baal runs saying I will drop the game. Yeah, the 9 skeletons are causing all the lag, not the 7 Sorcs using meteor >_>
b.net is full of retards. I simply tell them to smurf off - or better yet, ignore them completely. The only time I notice any lag is when I am downloading :skull::skull::skull::skull:, which is to be expected since I allot all the bandwidth utorrent ever wants.
What's also nice, is that any pets (whether that be Necro, Druid, Amazon, etc) are "stored" on the server rather than the client, so even though you might be lagging, they are still performing their work without any hesitation.
And yeah, Metoer is hell in terms of graphic-stress, even more so when a few Sorcs are casting Blizzard as well.
And I'll likely make BOOBZORS again, since having a Trapper is oh so lazy fun.
Sol and Amn. Hop to it, people.
DoneQuote:
Originally Posted by LunarWeaver
Lawl, I sees it.
Okay cancel the previous post. I now need a Sol.
If you can find an Amn you should have no problem finding a Sol.
Offer to cyber with a lonely b.netter Tav
They can spam their texts of pleasure at you. "SUCK PLZ *repeat repeat repeat*"
Speaking of this, I recommend you all type /who Sex sometime for some good chortles. That channel is win, and it's somehow managed to exist since Diablo 1.
Sol = Ber.Quote:
Originally Posted by SeeDRankLou
Amn = Pul.
Tell me that there's no difference.
What?
Screw it. I already found the runes I needed.
All I need now is a Jah, a Ber, and a 3Os Archon Plate. You all better hope your Hell Forges drop something good.
I believe Tav is simply saying that with the new Ladder reset, things are suddenly worth much more than they usually were.
So, mid-runes are now high runes, etc...
A Sol and Amn were once quite easy to come by, and were nigh interchangeable if one needed the other, but now - especially with the huge demand for Insight - Sol is worth much, much more.
EDIT: was...
No, Sol is worth far more than Amn. However, there's a greater shortage of Amn.
Ber > Pul, but that's because Pul could never be found. See the analogy? A stupid one, I know, but still.
Computer sucks, life distracting... from this point forward I am inactive unless by appointment. Lunar, if you would keep my chars alive I would be grateful. Ill be back, and Ill probably still post in here, but I figured I owe you guys an FYI.
But Koast and Chimney are the only two people who can stand me long enough to play characters D: With neither around, I have nothing :crying2:
I will keep your peeps alive, but I hope you come back ;-;
How to Kill Meph
By making him an idiot
Likely, some of you know this trick already. However, for those that don't, I thought to pass such knowledge on.
What it is:
Undoubtedly, you are familiar with most (if not all) locations of the Diablo world. And so, as you likely recall, Mephisto lies at the bottom his Durance of hate, which happens to have a lovely pool and moat of blood. There is a bridge of corpses and bones that rises from this marvelous pool (when you come close to it), leading to the pulsing, spectral red vagina (sometimes called a portal - or if Lunar, replace "vagina" with "rectum").
Basically, you train our wonderful friend Meph to the rising pathway, as we teleport to the nearest ledge. Meph will then simply stand there and make noise, while we cast Meteor / Blizzard / Fist of the Heavens / Lightning / etc...
All the while, Meph sits there and stares malignantly at us, but does absolutely nothing to show that his noise is anything but frustration at his AI being terribly stunted.
So, in other words, we make Meph stationary - stupid.
How to do it:
Prerequisites
Need the skill Teleport
Need a ranged attack / skill
The steps are really quite simple:
1. Teleport to Meph
2. Lead him to the rising bridge
3. Teleport to the nearest ledge (by Teleporting across the moat)
4. Burn / freeze / zap / attack the idiot until dead
And that's it.
Obviously, since you are completely safe where you stand, this allows the player to stack a ridiculous amount of Magic Find items on their character.
Yes, with a well-built Hammerdin, Trapper, etc... you could do this with less steps and less time, but right now, we're all quite poor. Safety is nice.
Here is a video of such a trick being used
http://i68.photobucket.com/albums/i2...eenshot022.jpg
I made a character on Standard Hardcore just to get on the Ladder :bigsmile:
I had totally forgotten that they used to have a option "Let this character loot your corpse." It's by like whisper and squelch and all that in your party menu. Lol, that's funny to me. So is the old stash size *shivers*
Look what I found...
http://img211.imageshack.us/img211/5...shot001zz1.jpg
And yes, I was also a Sorceress.
Maybe I should update/upload my armory once more.
Just so I can make fun of each and every one of you.
EDIT: Valinoreva is now my second Ladder account, not Valarauko.
I need a smurfing Sol rune :mad2: I tried trading my Hel for it, but nobody would bite. Not surprising, since everybody and their uncle seems to need a Sol lately.
Amulets:
+10 Dexerity, +15 all Resistances
+3 Passive and Magic Skills, Amazon, Level 45
+1 Assassin Skills, Damage taken -1, Level 27
+1 Druid Skills, +26 Life, Level 27
1 Druid Skills, +9 Dexterity, +59 Mana, Level 60
Rings:
+10% Faster Cast Rate
+49 Attack Rating, +1 Dexterity, +3 Mana, +5% Fire Resist, Damage taken -1, Level 14
+40 Attack Rating, +10% Faster Cast Rate, +5 HP Regen, Level 7
+41 Attack Rating, +4 Strength, +27 Mana, +7% Poison Resist, 1/2 Cold Duration, Level 48
+12 Attack Rating, +50/3 Poison DPS, +8 Strength +16% Cold Resist, +8% Poison Resist, Level 33
+49 Attack Rating, +2 Minimum Damage, +7% Magic Find, +7% Lightning Resist, Damage taken -2, Level 14
Updates soon to follow!
Are you using a program to record your items Tav?
And oh my... a +3 Passive and Magic skills ammy... I would complain about you having a gargantuan ego-head, but my god, that doesn't withhold me from loving you.
Dammit, I need to play this game more often than I have been...
Yes, it's called the "PrintScreen" key, Photoshop, and a paper and pencil.
You all need to play this game more often. the second highest person is Lunar!
I have a life.
I'm gonna start logging on...but people will need to be patient with me. My connection here isn't as consistent as my old one was.
Well, you can stop that nonsense right now and have no life at all like me this instant.Quote:
Originally Posted by Cim
If you want items, you will give it up.Quote:
Originally Posted by Cim
Unless you can find a way for Diablo 2 to produce vodka you're going to have to live with it. :tongue:
They closed my thread. D:
What the hell, bitches. Post!!
*Post*
Thank you!
Reported.
Die!!
Get on so I can transfer things or I might.
I'm going to make a Kamikaze Druid just to piss the PvP community off.
xD
You are all freaks.
s'ok Tavvy.
don't think yourself lower :3 you can be a freak too :333
I still think three of us should get together and make a thorns paladin, iron maiden necromancer, and spirit of barbs druid. We can all ourselves The Three Masochiteers.
I actually want to make a summoner druid built like a glass cannon. Tons of dexterity and give him a bow. Then while my puppies hit stuff I can shoot things. I'd need a bow with special properties like a Buriza or something... Hmm.
That build is called a Dark Ranger.
It was very effective in older patches (from what I read and am told)
Many builds were effective in old patches.
How/why did the newer patches smurf so many things over? I thought patches were supposed to balance and refine particular aspects of the game, not nerf builds...
So what exactly happened? I've only been here since 1.11b.
Pre-1.09 (or technically, 1.10), Hell was significantly easier. However, when Blizzard introduced Synergies, they felt it was necessary to increase difficulty of Hell mode; in order to survive, one had to take advantage of Synergies.
This was done in an effort to reduce a number of Uber-builds, especially giving use to investing points into lower-grade spells that could be replaced easily: for example, to opt not to use Frozen Orb over Blizzard, or Grizzly over Wolves. The ones that they were concerned with especially, were Whirlwind and Corpse Explosion; and adding synergies, in theory, was to increase the number of viable builds.
How wrong they were! When they increased Hell's diffculty, it was found that only skills using Synergies would survive. Those builds which were found to be able to survive are the ones being used today. Now you can't have a Chain/Orb/Hydra Sorceress, anymore, it's now Meteor/Orb.
Seems like 1.10 was meant to fix things, but it went horribly wrong. They tried to add builds, but wound up reducing them to a bare minimum, even destroying half of the techtrees on current characters. they tried to reduce SoJ duping, in order to get rid of SoJ duping and Nagel/Manald abuses (this order was abolished in 1.08), but SoJs were duped even more so.
They even tried to accomodate mod-maker users, but wound up persecuting them even more fiercely.
And the original makers of the game had left. Things just seemed to go all wrong.
In 1.09, they also added the Ladder, and exponentially decreasing EXP gain past level 80.
Wow...
That's all I can really say. Do they ever smurfing test what they make/change?
Well, the makers of the game (original team) left some time before the completion of 1.09. 1.10 was a completely new scab team recruited in order to keep interest in Diablo II high. Suffice it to say, they had no idea what they were doing.
I see. That would explain the torch... among other things.
They increased the difficulty of hell by a ton and added synergies. The synergies made some skills capable in hell and others not so much.
For instance, traps used to be completely awful. They did like 200 damage and nobody used them; everybody used Martial sins instead. But when synergies were introduced, traps suddenly did thousands of damage. So when the enemies in hell got harder and the Martial tab was left completely as it was with no boost, the balance was effectively reversed.
So in short Hell just used to be much, much easier, so you could get away with doing silly little builds.
Edit: Yeah, what Tavrobel said.
Martial Sins are still fairly viable. But traps are indeed far more popular.
Oh yeah, they're still capable and everything. I only used it as an example because it was the easiest I could think of I guess.
The two easiest ones are Corpse Explosion and Whirlwind. Those two skills alone made the game broken.
If you'd ever check the old Ladder (1.09), the very top was always Barb/Necro.
I remember old Corpse Explosion. It used to do something close to 1100% of Corpse life in /players 8.
I remember at one point Corpse Explosion's radius was totally absurd :lol: It hit for like 500 screens in every direction. Ah, that was forever ago though.
I'm still upset they put a timer on Dragon Flight and didn't put one on the Sorc's teleport. :bigsmile:
That's because Dragon Flight did damage, which made it own.
It's still a level 24 skill that only hits one person at a time and requires an enemy for it to work. Maybe if she teleported multiple times, like hitting 3-4 enemies at level 20, I could see a timer, but...They just killed it.
...They killed it :whimper:
That's Blizzard for ya!
:crying2:!!!
Help me transfer!!
Diablo II should learn off the people who did Guild Wars couple hundred skills.
Help me transfer!!
I did help you :bigsmile:
I almost feel bad for anybody who didn't buy the Expansion. Their hell became harder, too, but they didn't get any of the new pretty items we did to help them deal with it. It'd be impossible for underpowered builds to pull through in Standard hell. Of course, that was probly Blizz's plan in the first place.
I say almost because anybody who still hasn't upgraded to the Expansion by now is pretty dumb, though.
A warning for all members: if anyone, so much as tries to mention the existence or attempts to discuss the Fluffy Puff forum skin whilst I am online, or in this thread, be forewarned that I will block you on every source possible and have your posts deleted.
This is not the place to discuss ShlupQuack, nor even feign respect for her nor her carapace. If anyone so much as tries to do so, they will be blocked, cut off, ignored, squelched, and then left to die.
Though I tolerate the use of the skin, be aware that this is a private matter, and in no way should be discussed or spread amongst the population. Any and all reports of thanking PMs to Shlup will be met with brutal and humiliating force. Worship of Psychotic, Levian, Yamaneko, Zeromus_X, Samuraid, and/or cl_out is acceptable.
That is all.
So I shouldn't post in a Fluffy Puff thread, make a Fluffy Puff thread, use the Fluffy Puff skin, say how awesome the Fluffy Puff skin is, mention the Fluffy Puff skin at all, say how awesome ShlupQuack is, or mention my like of or anything about the color pink in this thread, lest......you throw a hissy fit? :tongue:
Yes.
You're not getting this in context, though. Lunar will tell the story.
You are free to use it as long as I don't know that you are using it.
I was just messing with you man. :D I got the picture.
My fault.
Who the smurf are you?Quote:
Originally Posted by Cim
*snip* Fluffy Puff will not be tolerated. The New World Order rises.
I hope I don't get in trouble for double posting.
What are you talking about? xD
*snip* FTW
Lawl
Oh, and a surprising thing:
Just in case you are unable to discern lag, everyone and anyone in a game will all type out either "lag", "lagg", or "laaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaggg", just in case you missed it.
I am glad the great b.net god is so very kind to reveal such revelations.
Fortunately, for you, you can still send/receive /f m messages if the game is not about to drop or disconnect.
I heart this very much. Mucho heart. And it's better that the same people do it the same way every lag spike :lol:Quote:
Originally Posted by Nominus Experse
Wow, this gets real boring in this thread if I don't actually play online. You bunch of wimps.
We talk online, why are you bitching?
spending wayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy to much time together.
it's been a good long year or so now :D?
This game is a bore, and seems to be played largely by people that have the cognitive capacity of a cantaloupe.
Someone tell - or even better, prove - me otherwise.
Or has my addiction finally come to an end?
Because when it comes to online games people treat it like the next step up from Runescape (though Diablo II LoD is like a bullion times better)... And they still have those awful inflictions on them perhaps?
I'll play this until I go to boot camp, then, I'll move onto Never Winter Nights 2.
I'm only interested in it when I have somebody to play through nightmare and hell with. With Koast already gone and Vietnom fizzling, once Chimney leaves I'll probly just pack it up again.
Blizzard needs to release a "Common Diablo II player" patch that fixes all the bugs and annoyances.
But, knowing Blizzard, that will likely backfire.
If they ever do release another patch, everything will just be flipped like always and all annoyances will remain. All the underpowered stuff will become overpowered, and the overpowered stuff will start to suck. It's what happens everytime they try and balance things.
Just look at Blessed Hammer. It used to do lots of damage and everybody used it for a short period of time. I'm talking, like, pre-Expansion. Then they nerfed it and it was horrible. But they didn't want nobody to use it, so they gave it a boost with Synergies and made it too strong again. They just can't seem to nail it o_o
http://img525.imageshack.us/img525/5...servershut.jpg
Oh smurf me...
I have a feeling that this screenshot is of NL.
It's still a good laugh. :)
I lol'd
Same. Ohh, well, good riddance. NL stuff is worthless.
THIS IS WORTH THE DOUBLE POST!
I DECLARE WAR ON THIS THREAD AND PERSON
http://forums.eyesonff.com/general-g...ml#post2245326
http://forums.eyesonff.com/members/-...art%253D-.html
OBEY MY DOG DAMNIT
I saw that.
I was pissed.
All I could read was that he plays a Paladin.
I bet that makes you angry. How angry does that make you? ANGRY ENOUGH TO RIP HIS TESTICLES OFF AND STUFF THEM IN HIS EARS?!
I wonder if Natalya is a lesbian...
And what the smurf is with NPC leaving their clothes in weird ass places? I mean, :skull::skull::skull::skull:, Mephisto had Ormus' Robes, some random twat in the Catacombs had Natalya's armor, whoever Sanders is keeps losing his boots to Baal...
And don't mention quests... I need this, get me that. smurf, why don't you want your clothes? You like fighting naked?
What is this, SPARTA or some other lame ass generic, mechanical reply?
Pssssh. You don't get it, do you? When evil is taking over the world, there's only one thing a person can do to make some extra cash.Quote:
Originally Posted by Nominus Experse
STRIP!
Angry enough to declare war.Quote:
Originally Posted by Cim
Probably. Can't you see her butch figure and short hair?Quote:
Originally Posted by Nominus Experse
Most of them have been dead for a couple hundred years.
Actually, that makes sense, since they are both in AIII. Ormus, a mage, likely comes from the same origin as the Council members. If his aging process were slowed by his magic (not a far cry), then he could have been, at one point, a Council member himself, before it was corrupted. It makes sense, since he is so out of it and awkward. He is familiar with Paladins (obviously). What skill did they have on them?
She probably dropped it.
Sanders is the KFC Colonel. Baal gets hungry sometimes, you know. Sanders can just buy himself a new pair. Preferably Italian in make, as the Colonel has good taste.
Nom, you've had sex more often than any of us in this thread. You should be the first person to know why.
Depends on who with. Those rogues and succubi aren't all evil, you know.
No. Shaman King Koth, who was Leonidas in a previous life, repelled Diablo and his minions from assaulting Mount Arreat in ages past. therefore, the outcome is that he won, and cannot be compared to Sparta.
I think Ormus and Mephisto are gay lovers, and the whole quest involving Meph's defeat is simply Ormus using the player as a means of sticking it to him.
Ormus didn't get enough sex and/or flowers from Mephisto. That's why Meph had Ormus' Robes. He secretly smelled them while in his dark, dank Durance.
Or something.
Every time I think I begin to understand the story in D2 something else emerges and I realize how little I know...
So says the guy who coined the term, "Cain's Butt Pinch of Death"
XD
Enough! *slams fist on table* When are we going to discuss the serious problem of Malah?! She's ruining everything. Why does she keep Resistance scrolls from us? LEVERAGE. Why does she only heal us when we come to her? LAZY. Why is that barbarian outside her house constantly dying when she can fully restore us in an instant? SADISM. Why do all of her items cost more than my stash even holds? GREED. Why does she give the Sorceress a special greeting? POWER HUNGRY. Something must be done. :mad2:
We get her to go out with Cain.
Anyone know if you can convert the Shared Stash of PlugY (.sss) to a ATMA stash (.d2x) file?
I don't even know what any of those are.
Maybe if you have an extensive knowledge of Diablo II coding and structure, and third-parties involved.
Depending on how they work, if linking to other programs is at least slightly the same (and you have both programs), find out where it sends for a link to the program you don't want to use and switch it with the program you want.
Again, assuming it works anything like html in the slightest.
No. DII works more like C languages, if it isn't written in it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Cim
I meant in regards to linking to other files.
How sad, after all these months of playing together, it would seem that we are finally growing tired of this game. I enjoyed playing with all of you :c)
That's why there's Median.
You have any idea how many times I've gotten sick of this game?Quote:
Originally Posted by Cim
I poke in every now and then.
I'm sorry, Giga, but hanging around Lunar for so long has led me to this:
I poke around in your mom every now and then.
Don't be mad xD
He's like my apprentice. OOOOHOHOHOHO.
I'm not bored of the game when I have somebody to actually play with. If I get on and see that everybody else is off, I'm just like "eh" and I get right back off again and do something else.
This is why we need a Diablo 3 ;_;
Hellgate: London is Diablo III.Quote:
Originally Posted by LunarWeaver
Fortunately, there's SC2 coming out in 2013. LOL if you actually think it's going to come out in 2008 like planned. We could turn this thread into a social commentary where I bitch about how EoFF is going to hell.
Hellgate London doesn't get to count! I want to find out what happens now that the Worldstone is destroyed.
If Starcraft 2 follows Ghost's example, why, it'll never come out at all :grover:
There's too much demand for it to go through developing Hell.
Like your mom?
~-~;
Hellgate London is looking awesomer every day~
Blizzard says they have another game planned and in the works, so if you wish to get your hopes up for a Diablo III, this might be the time.
However, realize Diablo III is never going to be released.
Well it's about time you did something classy.Quote:
Originally Posted by Cim
I do plenty of classy things!! >:c(
Sadly, I got bored of this game.
I'll proceed to chop off my knackers.
Please do.
well. that will cause pain.
and. if you have acne. make it go right away :]
MAGIC BONER SHALL FOREVER LIVE! IT IS INDOMITABLE!
*throb throb throb
lol
... *holds wand over shoulder* ...Quote:
Originally Posted by Nominus Experse
*ahem*
Avada Kedavra :quina: :quina: :quina: :quina: :quina: :quina: :quina: :quina: :quina: :quina: :quina: :quina: :quina: :quina: :quina: :quina:
*throb throb throb
What do you guys think would be best to see in the improbable DIII title?
A Instrument Playering Class :]
I'd like to see some customization in the character models...nothing too crazy...even just male or female, and a few hair colors.
Oh, and NO MMORPG!
They should employ Tav.
What the hell are Harry Potter words doing in this thread?!
A Jenna Jameson class.Quote:
Originally Posted by Nominus Experse
Wait, what?Quote:
Originally Posted by Cim
It's at the bottom of page 118.
Blasphemy!
Like your face!!
Also, Harry Potter sucks.
We have a page 118?Quote:
Originally Posted by Cim
You must choose to have your pages shown differently.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tsukasa... *holds wand over shoulder* ...Quote:
Originally Posted by Nominus Experse
*ahem*
Avada Kedavra :quina: :quina: :quina: :quina: :quina: :quina: :quina: :quina: :quina: :quina: :quina: :quina: :quina: :quina: :quina: :quina:
It's in the middle of page 24 (100 posts per page) for me.
So does your mom.Quote:
Originally Posted by Cim
XD
I choose to have them shown by 30, which is the CORRECT default, and all < 30 post users are failures.Quote:
Originally Posted by Cim
Harry Potter is a failure of the magic disciplines. TRUE wizards don't need words.
You knew there was no way that could be passed up.Quote:
Originally Posted by Cim
Of course not, I had just assumed that Lunar's "Your mom joke opening" sense would have kicked in immediately and he would've logged in and taken it. I had never suspected you! xD
Neither did your mom. ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by Cim
XD XD XD XD XD XD
But the spells looks pretty at least ^^~Quote:
Originally Posted by TavrobelI choose to have them shown by 30, which is the CORRECT default, and all < 30 post users are failures.Quote:
Originally Posted by Cim
Harry Potter is a failure of the magic disciplines. TRUE wizards don't need words.
Blargh, NO MORE HARRY POTTER FOR YOU!!
So did your mom.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tsukasa
Ghah! Help me, I can't stop the "your mom" jokes.! :eek:
/squelch Flying Mullet
I was going to do that too, but I held back.
It takes a lot of practice.
For some reason I was looking at this page, and then got distracted for twenty minutes, came back thinking this was a thread about Harry Potter, and in doing so went back about three pages getting more and more confused until it dawned on me that this was not a thread about Harry Potter.
I'm trying to keep it that way!
It isn't? :confused:Quote:
Originally Posted by Old Manus
No, it isn't! >:c(
This is my personal interactive LiveJournal, and we are going to keep it that way.
To keep that from happening, I suggest that we abuse Tavrobel's feelings.
I don't have feelings.
My mom IS your mom.Quote:
Originally Posted by Flying MulletSo did your mom.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tsukasa
er...I was adopted? :confused:Quote:
Originally Posted by TsukasaMy mom IS your mom.Quote:
Originally Posted by Flying MulletSo did your mom.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tsukasa
That's what your mom said.
Quit the mom stuff.
That's what your mom said.
/squelch Cim
Fixed.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tavrobel
I fixed your mom. ;)
Wow, you guys have changed.
Your mom jokes are so juvenile. I refuse to associate with you lot any longer.