So by that logic India was better off under English rule?Quote:
Originally Posted by Besimudo
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So by that logic India was better off under English rule?Quote:
Originally Posted by Besimudo
FF8 is a pansy sissy game where nothing made sense and little kids were more powerful than barbarians. At least FF7 made *some* sense before the cloning and the gaia ideas.
Um, out of curiousity, what "barbarians" were there in FFVIII that you are comparing to the "little kids"?
(BTW, purposely coming out and criticizing what is a lot of people's favorite game is a good way to get lynched... :D )
"So by that logic India was better off under English rule?"
No, the British rule of India was a degradation from the Moghul empire. The progressive British enslaved a traditional culture with linguistic and economic reforms. This in effect was a rapid change, not unlike revolution, as it totally disrupted the populace.
So, the British transformed an old system: integrating India into a global network that could not be managed well from London - half a world away.
Do not neglect that Ghandi was a traditionalist Hindu - not a progessivist - and lead a passive resistance. Therefore, Ghandi and India cannot be used as an example of 'revolutionary movement' in the same light as previous examples. There is a difference between ousting a natural monarch through violent means (as was the case in France and Russia) to an Imperialist monarch that had very little to do with the people it ruled.
"It seems she'd be more of a dictator than a royal, though."
No, can't agree. Dictators are secular rulers of the state. On the contrary, the sorceress office is ordained by Hyne (god), this stated in the game ... This means that a sorc. is akin to an Empress or monarch. ;)
"FF8 is a pansy sissy game where nothing made sense and little kids were more powerful than barbarians. At least FF7 made *some* sense before the cloning and the gaia ideas."
In one move you have effectively undermined the entire series as all FF games feature 'little kids' more powerful than barbarians (I assume that you mean grown enemies of some description). If you wish to draw sensible conclusions ... why not criticise the fact that a guy with a sword can beat a guy with a gun! But then this is pointless also. :p
A guy with a sword can beat a guy with a gun, depending on the situation. If the guy with the sword is well trained, he can do much more damage much quicker if the two are fighting at close range. True, one gun shot can kill someone, but one stroke from a sword will do a lot more physical damage, as it can cut across the entire body of the opponent. The main advantage of a gun is that: A) It's easy to use, yes, you get better with training, but anyone can blow someone away with a gun (which is why the Colt .45 was nicknamed the "Equalizer") and B) It is a long range weapon. Swords are short range. In close combat, I would much prefer a sword to a gun. Close with a gunman, and you can grab their weapon and render it pretty much useless. Try to do the same thing to a swordman, and you'll wind up missing a few fingers.Quote:
Originally Posted by Besimudo
Couldn't you say that Adel was a degradation of whatever the crap it was BEFORE she took over?
I assume that there was something before the FHers left.
And the sorceress state is determined by whoever the crap accepts their power. Hyne hasn't shown up ever ingame. Just as a myth.
And she doesn't rule because she's a sorceress. She rules because they're afraid of what she'll do to them because she's a sorceress.
Yeah, and they lock Rinoa away because they're afraid of what she'd do as a sorceress. Which is a big mistake, IMHO. I'd be more worried about what Squall would do in order to get Rinoa back. I mean, if Ward hadn't showed up and let them leave, Squall would've taken out the entire Eshtar army. He's a lot more dangerous than a sorceress.
Sky blade... I am a sword aficionado i.e. I like swords! So you do not need to expound the ad hoc benefits of swordsmanship.
Your argument falls apart, quote:
"Close with a gunman, and you can grab their weapon and render it pretty much useless. "
Firstly, you assume the gunman is of low experience. In most cases where gunmen do battle, it is solider versus solider ... So do not neglect martial art abilities.
Your second assumption is that the swordsman is exceptional. Basically, I could knock a swordsman flat - at close range - before they draw their sword!
"but one stroke from a sword will do a lot more physical damage"
No! killings en masse are possible only with guns. Have you considered the endurance required to even penetrate a human body and make a fatal blow with a sword? After about 5 people your arms would be very tired from the resistance mass of penetration and needless to say the weight of the sword ... a gun user would not experience these draw-backs.
P.S. I raised the sword comment in jest (to make fun of the comment that kids should not be stronger than barbarians). In Barbarian’s mind ... do you really think Squall would have lasted more than a day on his adventure with a sword against the G-army … I couldn’t care less it’s a game after all, but in reality a sword would be of little assistance. Nevertheless, I do not condone this lower critique of games! It's childish.;)
"Couldn't you say that Adel was a degradation of whatever the crap it was BEFORE she took over?"
Yep, just as Henry VIII was worse than his father. I never said that some monarchs were not bad ... just that they are better than politicians and ultimately the tyranny of the masses.
Anyhow, cheers. :)
Final Fantasy has always been lax about their governments. Up until VII every single government was a dictatorship (FFVI) or what appeared to be an absolute monarchy.
In FFVII their didn't seem to be any actual governments. Shinra was pretty much a power company that happened to maintain a rather large private army. It seems they fought Wutai at one time and prevailed, making them the most powerful psuedo-government on the planet. FFVIII wasn't much better. Dollet and Balamb seem to be independent city-states (They are often referred to as countries). Galabadia was a Military dictatorship. Edea seemed to remove deling from office and the people followed her and Seifer blindly. Esthar was ruled by another dictator, Adel. An extremely small group of rebels diposed her with almost no opposition, and even decided to install Laguna as president (he doesn't seem cut out to be a politician, not a good enough liar).
Well, I was thinking of a one on one battle against a inexperienced opponent. Look at the members of the G-Army. Do you think any of them know how to handle their weapon? :D I was kidding around too.Quote:
Originally Posted by Besimudo
How do you know what really went on after Laguna asumed power in Esthar? You don't, because the story doesn't explain all of the history behind it. There could have been a power struggle, internal strife, etc. But the game didn't cover that. It's up to your imagination, my friend.
Dollet is a dukedom. It used to be more independant before Galbadia started taking interest in it, I think?
Balamb has been independent for as long as we know.