I don't like the way FF7 portraits homosexuality...

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09-01-2006, 01:18 AM
Psychotic

What the heck? The guys in the Honeybee Inn were awesome. In all seriousness, I thought they were great, and funny.

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It's so obvious that they're supposed to be gays, but instead they behave like they were rapists or something.

It's a brothel. We can either assume they were paying customers and therefore straight, or male prostitutes, and in which case it's hardly surprising that they acted like "rapists".

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but they also are complete wimps, that kind who seems capable of weeping for the least of things.

Wimps? They were big and muscular.

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Also they don't automatically get turned on by everyone (I find it hard to believe that about 6-7 guys would all fall in love with Cloud just like that).

They didn't fall in love with him. They were just having a little bit of fun or, if they were prostitutes, doing their job. The only one who seemed interested in him was Mukki. The others didn't say anything to him other than "Yo!".

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And Cloud feeling afraid of them: why would he?

If six beefy strangers stripped you naked and then climbed into a bath with you, would you feel totally comfortable?

Also, why aren't you angry at the way FFVII portrays heterosexuality because Don Corneo was a huge raging pervert?
09-01-2006, 02:31 AM
The Crystal

Just a question: In the Honeybee Inn, exist gay womans? Just a curiosity.
09-01-2006, 02:45 AM
Hambone

Does this really need a discussion?
09-01-2006, 02:59 AM
Madame Adequate

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Originally Posted by Peter_20

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Originally Posted by I'm my own MILF

That's a disgraceful statement. We're not more important than other intelligent life-forms just because we're 'Humans'.

Yes, from our standpoint we're more important.
Would you choose a human to die instead of... an insect?
I don't think so. :D

Yes, all life is equal and bla-bla-bla, but humans will always give priority to themselves in these cases,
and we all know that's the truth.

If they are intelligent insects, then I can't say I could easily choose. If they're just normal bugs, and the choice is between one and the other, then sure. But honestly, how many times have YOU been attacked in real life by a Kelzmelzer? Exactly. They're peaceful and indeed friendly beings. The game merely portrays them as evil and brainwashes people into thinking the choice is between humans and nonhumans.
09-01-2006, 03:07 AM
Peter_20

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Originally Posted by I'm my own MILF

If they are intelligent insects, then I can't say I could easily choose. If they're just normal bugs, and the choice is between one and the other, then sure. But honestly, how many times have YOU been attacked in real life by a Kelzmelzer? Exactly. They're peaceful and indeed friendly beings. The game merely portrays them as evil and brainwashes people into thinking the choice is between humans and nonhumans.

...bla-bla-bla...

lol, you've gotta be kidding. XD
09-01-2006, 03:52 AM
MasterX

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Originally Posted by LunarWeaver

http://i68.photobucket.com/albums/i2...FFVII-Bomb.jpg

Bombs commit suicide because of the abuse they receive. Do you not cry at night thinking of the suicide you have driven them to? Because I do. Forget the homophobia, think of the bombs.

That's right! Forget the big strapping manwhores who seems to wanna hang with Cloud in a questionable way for a reasonable price when we can discuss the issue of countless SPECIES dying because of self-abused bombs exploding all over the place, whose lives are ruined by humans. Screw the homophobia! Save the Bombs!

On a more serious note, they don't have to be gay because they HAPPEN to be big strapping manwhores who happen to creep out any rich guy that happens to be swinging by to collect perfume so he can sneak into Corneo's mansion to save his busty yet valuable party member. Not ALL gays are creepy, but all creepy people are creepy.

CASE CLOSED, MY DEAR WATSON!
09-01-2006, 03:57 AM
Peter_20

[QUOTE=MasterX;1864764]

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Originally Posted by LunarWeaver

That's right! Forget the big strapping manwhores who seems to wanna hang with Cloud in a questionable way for a reasonable price when we can discuss the issue of countless SPECIES dying because of self-abused bombs exploding all over the place, whose lives are ruined by humans. Screw the homophobia! Save the Bombs!

On a more serious note, they don't have to be gay because they HAPPEN to be big strapping manwhores who happen to creep out any rich guy that happens to be swinging by to collect perfume so he can sneak into Corneo's mansion to save his busty yet valuable party member. Not ALL gays are creepy, but all creepy people are creepy.

CASE CLOSED, MY DEAR WATSON!

And why are you being so sarcastic, anyway? :eep:
Sometimes I get the feeling some members around here are trying to pick fights with me, going all über-serious and indignant towards anything.
It's really annoying.
09-01-2006, 04:21 AM
Zeromus_X

I'm pretty sure he's just joking around. :cat:
09-01-2006, 05:33 AM
Jojee

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Originally Posted by Psychotic

If six beefy strangers stripped you naked and then climbed into a bath with you, would you feel totally comfortable?

Oh, yes :kaohappy2

And I never thought anything of those scenes, they did make the game more amusing ^_^
09-01-2006, 05:45 AM
Psychotic

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Originally Posted by Jojee

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Originally Posted by Psychotic

If six beefy strangers stripped you naked and then climbed into a bath with you, would you feel totally comfortable?

Oh, yes :kaohappy2

You're a sexual deliquent though, so you don't count.
09-01-2006, 06:57 AM
Kawaii Ryûkishi

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Originally Posted by Peter_20

Sometimes I get the feeling some members around here are trying to pick fights with me, going all über-serious and indignant towards anything.
It's really annoying.

People are responding with sarcasm because you're trying to make a social justice case out of a comedy scene in a video game.
09-01-2006, 07:07 AM
Peter_20

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Originally Posted by Kawaii Ryûkishi

People are responding with sarcasm because you're trying to make a social justice case out of a comedy scene in a video game.

Aren't you administrators supposed to warn sarcastic members? :mad:
What happened to the whole "respect the topic creator" thingy, anyway?

This is plain hypocrisy.
09-01-2006, 07:11 AM
FallenAngel411

Yeah, those scenes really weren't meant to be taken seriously. In fact, if you look at them a certain way, they're actually really funny.
09-01-2006, 07:42 AM
Blykus

To be honest, if I was a large gay man with a bunch of buddies in the certain type of inn, I would probably be drawn to Cloud. He is toned, blonde, blue-eyes, and he was wearing woman's underwear at the time. Honestly, you can say that this is a blatant act of homosexual prejudice and whatnot, but the people who made the game were just having a little fun. Lighten up and take it for what it's made to be: a bit of comic relief.
09-01-2006, 09:57 AM
aquatius

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Originally Posted by Psychotic

And Cloud feeling afraid of them: why would he?

If six beefy strangers stripped you naked and then climbed into a bath with you, would you feel totally comfortable? [/quote]
I would be most happy and comfortable in this situation.

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