##Vote:Mum(Mom for you pedantic Yankees.)
She has contradicted herself, accuses Morbo of being scum because he posted so the mods won't kill him, and that thing Tinny Tim said about here.
##Vote:Mum(Mom for you pedantic Yankees.)
She has contradicted herself, accuses Morbo of being scum because he posted so the mods won't kill him, and that thing Tinny Tim said about here.
Donbot:
Votecount
[M] Leela (1) - [M] Hypnotoad
[M] Morbo (1) - [M] Mom
[M] Mom (2) - [M] Bender, [M] Tinny Tim
Day ends in 17 hours
This is the list of people who have not voted once in three day-periods. You will be replaced or modkilled if you don't. And trust me, you all brought this on yourself with these unbelievable first two days of fail.
Not voted once in three days: [M] Robot Devil, [M] Amy,[M] Hermes(being replaced), [M] Lrrr, [M] Morbo,[M] Nibbler(being replaced),[M] Tinny Tim, [M] Zapp Brannigan, [M] Zoidberg
Well it looks like I will have to cast my vote tonight, because I don't want to to wake up tomorrow, after your sundown...
I am purely voting on who seems the most suspicious to me at the moment, with aid from my list of everyone that I posted earlier.
##Vote:Mom
I posted a few of my reasons on the last page, but I'll post them here once again.
Again, it just seems like a fairly small thing to get all worked up about and reason your vote with.
Your votes after that were quite retalitory, when you attempted to unvote Calculon, you then voted robot devil because he 'asked' you your role. I'll just note that all of those votes didn't count for anything, as they were too late.
The next day you voted for Hypnotoad because he had voted for you the day before in an attempt to counter or even sway your vote from Calculon (he did end up changing his vote to Blob so that there would be a tie, thus sustaining Calculons life for a little longer).
And your most recent vote was toward Morbo
Seems like another unjustified vote, although I can see where you are coming from in the fact that he did begin posting again when he really had to, which did seem like convenient timing.
But then again Nibbler also started posting almost straight after Donbot had said that those who didn't vote would die. He did say he wouldn't be playing, but it just proves that convenient timing is possible.
I have only posted all these things to give my vote reason, not to convince everyone to vote too.
Please stick to your own suspicious and don't let what I have posted about Mom change you mind in anyway, I don't want a Bandwagon, they are frightening.
Like I said at the start, I believe you to be the most suspicious for those reasons and I really have to vote now. So I'll be sticking with this as my vote, because as I said, I probably won't wake in time tomorrow to see the lynching.
Horrible Gelatinous Blob:
I gotta go soon, 'tis 7AM. But I'll be back with a vote.
I would be more inclined to vote Mom if she was less erratic. How many times has someone so careless and erratic actually been mafia?
If you read over the sign up thread, you can be pretty certain who the member playing Mom is. I don't think Mom is actually scum, just hypo.
Uh, half of the game always takes place when I´m in bed :( There is no such excuse I can come up with. I´ve read almost every post to the end but didn´t really contribute. Having said that I may say that I wouldn´t have yesterday anyway. All this "evidence" that was shown against the others did not seem too convincing to me. The only suspicious move to me was Santas vote for Calculon and Hypnotoads vote for the Blob which came out of nowhere and for no obvious reason.
While I don´t believe Santa to be scum Hypnotoad has casted such a vote again but on Leela today. Also I would like to know what made mom change her vote so quickly to Morbo as he really could have been busy. Will you possibly vote me now that I am posting?
I will save my vote, which definitely will come, for later.
I should be back in about 8 or so hours, I need sleep. Hopefully I'll catch some discussion. Laters
Mom:
Here is a list of every single one of benders posts in this thread!!
So up until now, bender, what is it that you have actually contributed other than spam and playing it safe by talking about the possible roles hmmm? Nothing. Youre looking way way way WAY more suspicious than me. You hadnt even voted until now.
Onto your vote for me. contradiction? what contradiction. i said he is trying to hide low to avoid detection, and in the other bit i said he only posted because he has to. How on earth is that contradicting?? :confused:
Maybe morbo is your friend killer and you are trying to save him by making me look bad. And no this isnt because youve voted for me either. tinny tim has voted for me and i think he is a good guy but mistaken. In fact I think you knew this and thats why you mentioned his name in your vote - trying to tag along for the ride. No I dont care if you voted for me first, youre using his reasoning and a joke of a reason to vote for me. Youre a tag along. :)
Morbo: i have to admit some of my vote was because i was angry at you (and others) for not playing. But with this joker coming out of nowhere to defend you with poor reasons and cast doubt on me, I think you are friends. :)
If i die and you guys see i am good, look at bender, look at morbo, do not let them get away with what they have done. They are the ones. Trust me.
Hey guys I am finally around and read through some of the thread. I will post some things on what caught my eyes but first I will address mom's concerns.
As I said in my other posts I was too busy to play. Forums games take a back seat to rl. Day 1 I did not get back until night time and day 2 I worked an unexpected double shift and did not feel like getting online after all that. Rather than post some random thoughts to stir upI decided to wait until morning so that I could read the thread and make a more valid contribuution. It takes a while to get up to speed when you have been gone for days.
I think you targeted me because it was convienent. Why not go after Fry, Amy, Nibbler, etc? They all have been absent but I was the one with the most recent post so an easy target.
Now that I have addressed that I will post what I have seen from reading the thread in a new post.
Mom:
the one with the most recent post wouldnt be an easy target would they...because the others wouldnt post and defend themselves because they werent there! theyd be the easy ones, not you :tongue:
i would probably have changed my vote if bender hadnt got involved...but he did...and you are guilty by association! (reminds me of a LP song lol. anyone like it?? ;))
Sorry guys, i've been busy and trying to understand this game. But i'm slowly getting it now, reading the forums and all. And i'll hopefully cast a vote soon.. i just hope i don't forget and go past the 3 day thingy. D:
After reading the thread, my vote is between Blob, Mom, and Robot Santa.
Horrible Blob - Blob was the most active in day 1 and pretty active in day 2, however that alone should not be enough for scum because we need to promote activity. Day 1 I think he was just trying to stir up activity which points to not scum, but day 2 he started to spread that rumor of multiple killers even though we have had no evidence of it. Spreading misinformation is very mafiaish. Calculon voted for Blob and Calculon ended up being a confirmed docotor. Not saying calculon knows the truth but we can be sure a confirmned town's opinions are genuine. I want to give Blob the benefit of the doubt for his earlier activity though. If he stays active he will probably slip up if he is mafia anyway.
Mom - Mom's posts from the earlier time doesn't make any sense. Then she was told to post better and she makes a little more sense now. When I read her posts I thought she was either a naieve new player or a cunning mafia trying to fool us. But she could just as well be a naieve mafia. In her eyes I would make a very safe vote for her if she was mafia due to my inactivity. Then she tries to connect me and Bender in her above post which is silly because if we were connected as evil then if one goes down the other goes down. If the mafia had vetaran players it would not make such a mistake. Still I cannot be sure that she just doesn't know what she is doing.
Robot Santa - Robot Santa had the deciding vote for Calculon. Then after the deadline he took his vote off. He seemed to know it was past deadline, but did he know it wouldn't be counted? Here's the most important piece of evidence. His intial vote came AFTER Calculon claimed doctor. He had opportunity to take his vote off before deadline but he didn't do it. Mom did almost the same thing so they could be in cahoots but that seems too obvious so I won't pursue it.
Here is what I think happened: Mafia saw that the vote was very close and that the doctor was one of the possible targets (they would know or at leat suspect calculon's claim was real). They wanted to take advantage of this opp to kill the doc but to avoid suspicion they came up with this plan to take santa's vote off after the deadline. At worst it would lead to a tie which could be broken by a mafia who hadn't yet voted or an ususpecting town.
##Vote: Santa
Your reasoning that inactivity equals scum, particularly when someone posts to not get modkilled is just as poor. All you need to do is read the first post of the thread, and the latest death scene to know only town has died. Of course a town isn't going to want to die.
Just say, what if would happen if we lynched you today, lynched me tomorrow, and I come up Town(which I would). What next?Quote:
If I die and you guys see i am good, look at bender, look at morbo, do not let them get away with what they have done. They are the ones. Trust me.
Oh ok I did not know that. The times are a little confusing and I thought the day ended between those times. But if it was the tie breaker then I think he would know he can't take it back. Still very fishy!
edit: That was in response to hypnotoad
Lrrr:
Well I'm getting my vote out so I don't forget and don't die later on. My vote might and probably will change before the end of the day. I just need it out there.
##Vote: Blob
With that said, my reasons being as Morbo said, his whole multiple killing factions thing is really suspicious.
At first I thought he was just a bad player, but I've thought that in past games and it just ended up being mafia. By this point I think there's few bad players in EoFF mafia, so it seems more likely he's scum.
His whole argument was flawed in many ways and I couldn't gather why anyone would even say something so ridiculous as second killing factions when we've only had 1 death a night thus far at the time (and still have). There was no reason to even think of such a thing unless one was trying to spread misinformation, which is something only scum benefit from.
So for now I'm voting Blob for said reasons.
Though I'm leaning towards one of the voters for Calculon since that whole thing screams scum involvement somewhere. But it seems plenty of people are already attacking people for that so I figure I'll be original. =P
Alright, hello I am Nibbler's replacement. I was watching the thread a little bit and I just now skimmed over a little and I dont really like Mom that much. In one of her posts, she tries to get rid of Morbo, an inactive. But then when people start questioning her on it she moves to Bender. I think it's entirely possible that Mom is a newbie mafian, trying to get rid of one of her mafia teammates for a sacrifice. I am not sure who this person is, but I would have to guess Bender, because he seems smart enough to show little opinion on her scumminess.
In an entirely different scenario, Hypnotoad seemed to defend Robot Santa. I have nothing else on that, just making a note. It doesnt seem scummy, but it is just slightly worth watching.
Ill vote Mom now just in case I dont get back...
##Vote: Mom
The timing is at 8:03 mod says 57 minutes left.
At 8:19 Calculon swoops in to defend himself against Leela's attacks, vote for Horrible Gelatanous Blob and claim doctor.
I swoop in at 8:49 to change my vote to Horrible Gelatanous Blob in order to create a tie in an effort to save him. It was all I could do.
Then at 9:00 the dead line has passed and we have a tied.
Then at 9:11 Robot Santa post a big long thing about how Calculon and I are in cahoots with each other and are mafia.
9:41 He finally comes to the conclusion that killing off the doctor would be stupid and he hopes that it isn't too late to do so but it was too late to do so the minute he cast his vote for calculon in the first place.
This was a recap the events that transpired during the end of day 2 to clear up any misunderstandings or confusion that people might be having. Does this help Morbo?
Edit: Nibbler, I am not defending santa. I am simply correcting misinformation. I even said I agreed with Morbo's "What happened" section.
Donbot:
Votecount
[M] Leela (1) - [M] Hypnotoad
[M] Morbo (1) - [M] Mom
[M] Mom (3) - [M] Bender, [M] Tinny Tim, [M] Nibbler
[M] Robot Santa (1) - [M] Morbo
[M] Horrible Gelatinous Blob (1) - [M] Lrrr
Day ends in 7 hours.
Not voted once in three days: [M] Robot Devil,[M] Amy, [M]Hermes(replaced),[M] Lrrr,[M] Morbo,[M] Nibbler(replaced), [M] Tinny Tim, [M] Zapp Brannigan, [M] Zoidberg
Leela:
But still the fact of the matter was he did cast a lynching vote for calc without reading the thread, or so he says. It took him a full half hour to come back and try to look more innocent and unvote even though it was too late.
I don't really believe the apologies. "I'm sorry you're dead" "I'm sorry I got you lynched." "I'm sorry my reasons weren't good enough." "I'm sorry I didn't read the thread."
They seem like excuses. I'm going to stick with robot Santa as my suspicious and seeing as I'm moving out of the dorms and wont be back by the time I get home I'm gonna vote now.
##Vote: Robot Santa
Yup, exactly my point. I may seem a bit like an idiot here, because I seem like an idiot to myself, but here is what I think Mom would think if she were mafia.
I have a little heat on me, I need to come up with something fast! Oh, heres Morbo posting nothing! If this doesnt take heat off me, it might at least delay it so I can get myself out of this. Crap that was horrible... Well I guess I will bring attention to a radom townie(Or a scummate, not completely sure on you yet), and then maybe it can get me out of this.
I may be taking this, "to catch a thief you need to think like a thief" saying a little too far, but thats my opinion.
Leela:
.... for time reference... :rolleyes2
Mom:
so in this same paragraph you condemn me by saying "newbie mafia" and defend yourself by saying "the mafia are veterans". give me a break. :rolleyes2
no, its not poor. if you dont post you dont get attention and killers dont want attention. thats the logic.
also I like that you cant even offer a defence against your own poor posting and contribution record.
Im not going to answer 'what ifs'. deal with problems as they occur and dont give bad guys time to plan. :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Bender
I havent "moved" to bender. who is my vote on? its on morbo. I think morbo and bender are together and Ive said this. I think you havent read the thread at all and your just voting for whoever has the most votes. I think your town, just one who needs to actually think before doing something stupid. :)
Mom:
I think robot santa is a goodie but i will vote for him if it means saving myself because I know i am good for sure......
this is a really stupid situation and i cant believe the good guys are lettin the bad guys do this... :-/ just think.
call me a newbie all you want, but at least i am using my brain. ;););)
Horrible Gelatinous Blob:
Morbo, I was simply stating that by having multiple killing forces, we could be prepared for possible extermination. One too many times has the town been suprised by two killing factions and was killed as a result of it! With my statement, we could at least not kill each other when we find the second killing faction over more random acts of suspicion.
Hmmm, I agree with what is said about Robot Santa, and I don't really have anything else to say that others havent. He is scummy and he seems a little ignorant, if that is the right use of the word.
Read my post before last please Mom.
Edit: Or the one before it, because apparently I cant count :D
Leela:
.... LOL
Morbo said, IF the mafia had veteran members, which could be a possiblity if you look at the sign up list.
Benders point of your point of inactivity equaling scum being poor is right. Inactivty=scum Activity=scum coughing=scum. Everything equals scum. You don't have to do much to be a suspect. That's pretty much the root of this game. You basing everything on it is a bit foolish. People get busy when these games go about, others are indifferent timezones, the fact that you ignore all that is foolish as well. You are a naive player it seems. I wouldn't say scummy just very very very naive. Then again naivety is a scum tactic so I dunno about you.
Also you reference to "What If's" thing well you should look at morbos "If the mafia were vets" that you did pay attention to.
You also have moved to bender, where does your attention lie? Bender.
Now Blob, We haven't seen any kills yet so thanks for pointing that it could be a possibility but you were pretty quick to make that judgment. I do agree with many, that's a bit suspicious.
Mom:
Oh sry didnt see that was posting my post when you made that.
heat? what heat? i didnt have any heat on me when i suspected morbo, people voted for me AFTER I voted morbo!!! :confused: you really havent read the thread at all have you. :-/
Leela:
Ok now you can refute but I really have to go. Go team town! If I have a chance to get on when I get home I will. But if not, see you tomorrow town... hopefully. D:
Horrible Gelatinous Blob:
I don't think you're evil, Mom, but I don't wanna die.
##Vote-Mom
People say stupid stuff. No denying that. But give me a break, I said something stupid and I underatnd that now. If stupid=scum, than all of us might have been scum in this game. Read the first page.
Donbot:
Votecount
[M] Leela (1) - [M] Hypnotoad
[M] Morbo (1) - [M] Mom
[M] Mom (4) - [M] Bender, [M] Tinny Tim, [M] Nibbler, [M] Horrible Gelatinous Blob
[M] Robot Santa (2) - [M] Morbo, [M] Leela
[M] Horrible Gelatinous Blob (2) - [M] Lrrr, [M] Zoidberg
Day ends in a little less than 6 hours.
Not voted once in three days: [M] Robot Devil,[M] Amy,[M] Hermes(replaced),[M] Lrrr,[M] Morbo,[M] Nibbler(replaced),[M] Tinny Tim, [M] Zapp Brannigan,[M] Zoidberg
No, someone could be busy, or suddenly lose access to the internet.
The thing about you going get lynched today isn't likely to be a what if, and me turning up town-aligned will also happen.Quote:
Im not going to answer 'what ifs'. deal with problems as they occur and dont give bad guys time to plan. :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Bender
The only reason I "defended" Morbo was because I didn't, and still don't, like the reasons for your vote on him.Quote:
I havent "moved" to bender. who is my vote on? its on morbo. I think morbo and bender are together and Ive said this. I think you havent read the thread at all and your just voting for whoever has the most votes. I think your town, just one who needs to actually think before doing something stupid. :)
Mom:
:(
im going and you will never see me again probably :weep:
but remember - its never too late to do the right thing.
We have about 6 hours left, so don't go cry on us let.
Mom:
TRANSMITTING DATA....
ONE SECOND...
PROJECT "Mom" STATUS: SUCCESS
...
ENCRYPTION OVERRIDE
EMERGENCY PROTOCOLS ACTIVATED
...
BEGIN PREPARATIONS FOR FINAL PHASE
PREPARE FOR HIM
HE IS THE ONE
AND HE IS COMING
T-MINUS 36 MINUTES.
WHAT DO YOU DO
WHEN THE WALLS COME FALLING DOWN?
:confused:
Donbot:
Don't make me get the clamps.
Horrible Gelatinous Blob:
Ditto, Bender. 'tis confuzzling.
Mom:
Did you guys like my stupid viral marketing intro?
"How can we get people excited about our product?"
"A campaign of vaguely worded hints, made up computer technobabble, and a countdown! They'll eat it up!"
"I don't know..."
"Okay, we throw in some cryptic bible references too."
"GENIUS!"
Disappointed I didn't get a 68 page discussion thread about what it all could possibly mean but what can you do.
Anyway, hi! I'm what you might refer to as a replacement. I have no qualms in informing you all I am the Greatest Mafia Player of All Time Who Isn't Del Murder™. I don't care if you know who I am. I am dead anyway. I like to eat beef and lamb and also sometimes bacon.
I believe you have concocted some wacky tobacky plan to kill me.
This is a very bad idea. I don't know why Mommy Dearest said what Mommy Dearest said, but either way, bring your aggrievances against her to me one-by-one. I will tell you how bad they are. You will agree. And then you'll unvote me and vote for Leela or something. I don't know!
Come on
sounds like fun doesn't it
let's play!
Who's first? C'mon step up, step up, don't be shy! :excited:
PS: I am now in charge of this town you do what I tell you when I tell you and you just might make it out alive. IS THAT UNDERSTOOD, SOLDIER?
PPS: Don't start trying to use the above as evidence against me that was just a little joke!
PPPS: (it wasn't really. I am your God now. Or Emperor. Emperor-God. Meh. I'll figure out a title later.)
Horrible Gelatinous Blob:
Now my vote for Mom is legitimate! *thumbs up*
While still having the same three suspects Mom, Toad and Santa, Toad somewhat enervated my bad feeling about him and diverted it in Santas direction. I agree with you on your post describing the activity going on before the lynch of Calculon. On the other hand I can see no other evidence for him being scum.
Contrariwise, Moms attitude still doesn´t make sense to me. Why jump on the inactives? Morbo had no chance to defend himself before you cast your vote. In addition I cannot see how Bender and Morbo could be in cahoots.
I´m am still not sure how to cast my vote now.
Mom:
Hey it's a green guy what's up green guy. What's your deal?
Why is voting for me good? I will tell you why it isn't if you tell me why it is~
I think Mom jumped on inactives because someone had to do something.
You can threaten them with mod killing and replacements and all the rest of it but it's not much of a threat, really, is it?
Besides, with so many of you eager to rush to the defence of the poor little inactives, like they're starving orphans or something, it'd make perfect sense for a mafia to hide as one.
Maybe Morbo's a mafia. Maybe he isn't. I bet one of our inactives is!
Oh and what is that about now?
##vote: Mom
Mom:
I'm a replacement how do you do. Why are you voting for me? What is your reasoning?
Yeah, I guess Mom could have sat back and waited. But if you sit back and wait forever, you're going to get taken down. Look at what sitting back and waiting brought so far: 4 dead town.
Precisely! Mom learned from her mistakes and moved onto inactives instead. It's a logical progression.
Hey an unvote right about now would be pretty hot. Come on, give me a chance!
Okay hey if you guys really want me dead that's cool. We can still be buds at the end of it.
But I'm not going down quietly. Oh no. I'm going to go on the offensive if nobody wishes to take me on the defensive! When you see I'm town town town team town (joke, see below) you can come back to my posts and go "oh boy!". Okay? Ready...go!Town town town town town! Who are you trying to convince? :rolleyes2 Subtle little signs like these, folks.
Predecessor is right; Until today, Bender had contributed precisely 0 while still making a lot of jokey posts to get his head out there. It's suspicious. Can Bender explain this?
Morbo, morbo, morbo. My vote is apparently on you. Huh. May as well keep it for now. :|
You know, it is a bit odd the way Bender rallied to your defence. And today Leela agreed with your points to Mom in a post I can make neither head nor tail of. I think either you are mafia and they are silly mafia rushing to your defence, or maybe you are town and they are mafia latching on to you. Who knows. Also rallying on the three easiest targets (blob, mom, santa) leaving you open to vote for whichever one the town falls against on that day, citing your earlier argument.
Blob blob blobbity blob. Not my favourite person after saying their vote for me was justified when I came into the game! Talked about multiple killing factions or something. Meh. Mafia trying to seem useful or townie trying to seem useful? Inconclusive!
Horrible Gelatinous Blob:
Mom, what?
You posted weird, how the hell would I know if you were a replacement?
Look's like you're playing the Rob Mariano card. In Survivor, before he got voted off, he stirred crap up so he could maybe stay in the game. He was voted off even more surely.
So, why the sudden stir the pot and try to rearrange our game plan? Meh, my vote stands surely.
Mom:
:DQuote:
Anyway, hi! I'm what you might refer to as a replacement.
And yeah sorry for the weird crap that was just me having some fun before the big game. And that's ok, we can chalk it down to you not wanting to read my big long post. I wouldn't want to read it either!
Yeah, I want to stay in the game. Absolutely I do. Stirring up crap though? No. No no no. I am trying to right a wrong, here. Anyone has a problem with mom's actions, let's talk them through. I'm here. I'm not going anywhere.
Take this opportunity. You can still vote for me if you really must at the end of it, but if you don't at least try to let me justify things (I can't claim to wholly know the mindset of the predecessor) then you'll regret it.
Horrible Gelatinous Blob:
Alright, why the strategy bombardment. You look pretty smart, so why the sudden shift? Where you in this game before or are you simply observant?
Mom:
I have been observing this game, so I know of the ins and outs. I know that what the town has done so far has not worked.
I am bombarding you because I have very little time left, as far as I am concerned - 6 (?) votes or something like that means I am on the brink. I may as well contribute somehow before I die, right?
Horrible Gelatinous Blob:
Mom, are you really a replacement?
Or were you playing the Noob card?
Mom:
I'm a replacement and I am not a newbie in the slightest. I am very experienced.
Horrible Gelatinous Blob:
Sorry. I don't believe you. This is why...
You were replaced very quickly, for starters. I am aware we are very low on replacements. So if we have little to no replacements, why so sudden?
Mom:
I don't know how many replacements there are. I signed up to be a replacement earlier today and was online when the person who originally played quit so I got the account.
Anything else?
Horrible Gelatinous Blob:
Last question, was my Survivor recap detailed enough or should I be more detailed into emotional elements?
Horrible Gelatinous Blob:
Holy Smurf! Bender, you scared me! Where did you come from?
Donbot:
Hahaha you actually typed out Smurf xD
Mom:
Some new guy comes in and wants to stay and does some jumping about to try to get them to let him stay. Yeah. I get it. I haven't done anything negative since coming in though, have I? I've answered all questions about me, and put forward some of my own ideas. I want to help and I want to contribute. Give me a chance, don't write me off as that guy on Survivor. I'm not him!
No voting either? Well that won't help anyone. An extra vote from a townsperson means we're more likely to strike red gold rather than green...oh I can't continue this metal metaphor. :p
Okay, fair dues. You're not defending him.Quote:
I've said it once, and I'll say it again-I'm NOT defending him. I just don't like the reason for the vote against him.Quote:
You know, it is a bit odd the way Bender rallied to your defence.
However, let me just talk about the next bit of your post. The reasoning wasn't fantastic, no. Bear with me for this one though. On Day 1 and Day 2, people voted off town, right? We know they are town. We do not know if Morbo is town or not. Thus, we can logically conclude that a vote for a confirmed town has worse reasoning than a vote for an unknown town, yes? Thus perhaps there are other people more worthy of a vote!
Horrible Gelatinous Blob:
Wow, Mom caught my Survivor reference to himself!
How smart! For that, suspicion is pretty much clear. But my vote stays to save myself. Nothing personal. Oh, and your hair looks like a pair of boobs, Mom.
Mom:
I can understand wanting to save yourself. But if you don't find me suspicious, who do you find suspicious? Who would you have voted for if you weren't in trouble yourself?
We could take a look at them together if you like.
PS: at least I have hair. :tongue:
Horrible Gelatinous Blob:
Bender's somewhat suspicious to me, he comes and goes like the wind, posting stuff when he's only mentioned.
I find Amy to be suspicous as well. For reasons above except less active and more spontaneous.
Horrible Gelatinous Blob:
Gotta go Be back in a few hours.
Mom:
I already looked at Bender. I'll take a peek at Amy in just a sec then.I know. Now is the time to make up your mind though. I know you've decided I am with your vote, but that's not set in stone. Reconsider. I will help you with anything you need to decide as best I can. If you still want to condemn me, alright, as long as you've looked at the issue again and used me.
In fact, this goes for all of you who voted for me. Who else do you find suspicious? Even if I was mafia, there are probably 2-4 others. You can't just say "Mom. Done for the day." and give them a free pass.
I'm not trying to deflect attention from myself either, though. I would appreciate it if you asked questions and made cases against me, and give my answers a chance, don't just write me off as wrong.
You can guarantee that someone out there will be enjoying the spotlight being on me though. Let's turn it on them too.
Inactive voting an inactive!
##Vote: Amy
Donbot:
Oops, sry guys, day is supposed to end at 6:22, in about half an hour.
I'll throw on an extra half hour for everyone to see it.
So in an hour the day ends.
Votecount in 20 sec.
Mom:
Okay, I looked at Amy. Not much to look at, but I looked.
Yeah she's been inactive. I've already talked about inactives, but as a refresher, people just say "BOO INACTIVES :irked:" then let them go. Hell, some of you have even been defending them. It's logical that a mafia would attempt to disguise themselves as one. (whether it was logical for Mom to vote Morbo above others is questionable though, yes)
Do I think Amy is that inactive? No. Her vote for me absolutely stinks. She's just like "what. *VOTE* bye." Let's assume she is a mafia who has been faking inactivity. She'd know how I'd flip. It's an extremely reckless move for a scum who has supposedly been playing a very careful game until now.
I just can't see it.
Donbot:
Votecount
[M] Leela (1) - [M] Hypnotoad
[M] Morbo (1) - [M] Mom
[M] Mom (5) - [M] Bender, [M] Tinny Tim, [M] Nibbler, [M] Horrible Gelatinous Blob, [M] Amy
[M] Robot Santa (2) - [M] Morbo, [M] Leela
[M] Horrible Gelatinous Blob (2) - [M] Lrrr, [M] Zoidberg
[M] Amy (1) - [M] Zapp Brannigan
Day ends in a little less than 64 minutes.
Not voted once in three days: [M] Robot Devil,[M] Amy, [M] Hermes(replaced), [M] Lrrr, [M] Morbo, [M] Nibbler(replaced), [M] Tinny Tim, [M] Zapp Brannigan, [M] Zoidberg
Don't worry, I have a replacement lined up for [M] Robot devil
Mom:
##unvote
##vote: Robot Santa
If you unvote me and vote for Robot Santa, Blob, it's a tie ;)
Just think about that.
I'm going to something very left-field, and
##UnVote:Mum
##Vote:Zapp
Mom:
For the record, I don't think Santa is bad and have done this out of personal necessity. Sorry.
Donbot:
Votecount
[M] Leela (1) - [M] Hypnotoad
[M] Morbo (0) -[M] Mom
[M] Mom (4) - [M] Tinny Tim, [M] Nibbler, [M] Horrible Gelatinous Blob, [M] Amy,[M] Bender
[M] Robot Santa (3) - [M] Morbo, [M] Leela. [M] Mom
[M] Horrible Gelatinous Blob (2) - [M] Lrrr, [M] Zoidberg
[M] Amy (1) - [M] Zapp Brannigan
[M] Zapp Brannigan (1) - [M] Bender
Day ends in a little less than 53 minutes.
Hey, what about my UnVote:mad2:
Donbot:
Calm down sasquash. I was getting to it.
I was expecting something like this. I'm pretty sure Mom is town too, so this will be a wrong lynch either way. I just hope the town has a cop or something that can help the town get back into the game.
Mom:
Please nobody go after Blob and Santa tomorrow. That would be making the same mistake again. The easy option is not always the right one.
You're not dead yet Mom, somebody might swoop in and save the day.
Donbot:
40 min left.
Way to stick the feeling of impending doom in there, Donbot! :p
Mom, you say you're experienced? I hope you're not lying.
##Vote: Robot Santa
If you're experienced, you'll be of greater help to the town then I will be. Good luck and godspeed
Mom:
Okay with an hour left before I possibly die, I am going to make a big long post.
Read this badboy after I die. It'll give you something to do during the night! And when you read it, you will know I am town and that I have no agenda here but to help you.
Firstly, you can't all sit back and show up every now and then to go "HI ^_^ *VOET*" then disappear. You'll lose, and it'll be your fault.
Somebody needs to be me. Get out there and launch furious assaults against who you believe to be mafia. Don't go for the OBVIOUS answer either. You tried that and look where it's got you. Think outside the box.
Stop with this "DEFEND INACTIVES" :skull::skull::skull::skull::skull::skull::skull::skull:. No. Get out.
Finally, you will see people trying to play this off. "Hurr Psy (hi that's me) isn't as smart as he thinks he is don't listen to him" or maybe "He's smart but he is often wrong!" No. smurf you again. This is not about my intelligence. This is about logic. You can try to ad hominem on me all you want. Hopefully now people have their eyes open to your :skull::skull::skull::skull::skull::skull::skull::skull:. ;)
And with that out of the way, let's begin.
Tomorrow, kick the ever loving crap out of Leela and Morbo. They will try to dodge it and wriggle out of it. No. Do not let them.
Bender and Hypnotoad are also possibles; but they are also the easy options I think. We're not going for easy. We're going for hard.
MORBO -
Firstly, look at the different posting style. "Their" and the use of the ;; smiley (let's not get into pedantry here, but to me, if I wanted to pretend to be less intelligent, I would use the ;; smiley) compared to a well-written srs bsns post. I might be clutching at straws here, but it's something to note. It's not the major issue though.Quote:
After reading the thread, my vote is between Blob, Mom, and Robot Santa.
Horrible Blob - Blob was the most active in day 1 and pretty active in day 2, however that alone should not be enough for scum because we need to promote activity. Day 1 I think he was just trying to stir up activity which points to not scum, but day 2 he started to spread that rumor of multiple killers even though we have had no evidence of it. Spreading misinformation is very mafiaish. Calculon voted for Blob and Calculon ended up being a confirmed docotor. Not saying calculon knows the truth but we can be sure a confirmned town's opinions are genuine. I want to give Blob the benefit of the doubt for his earlier activity though. If he stays active he will probably slip up if he is mafia anyway.
Mom - Mom's posts from the earlier time doesn't make any sense. Then she was told to post better and she makes a little more sense now. When I read her posts I thought she was either a naieve new player or a cunning mafia trying to fool us. But she could just as well be a naieve mafia. In her eyes I would make a very safe vote for her if she was mafia due to my inactivity. Then she tries to connect me and Bender in her above post which is silly because if we were connected as evil then if one goes down the other goes down. If the mafia had vetaran players it would not make such a mistake. Still I cannot be sure that she just doesn't know what she is doing.
Robot Santa - Robot Santa had the deciding vote for Calculon. Then after the deadline he took his vote off. He seemed to know it was past deadline, but did he know it wouldn't be counted? Here's the most important piece of evidence. His intial vote came AFTER Calculon claimed doctor. He had opportunity to take his vote off before deadline but he didn't do it. Mom did almost the same thing so they could be in cahoots but that seems too obvious so I won't pursue it.
Here is what I think happened: Mafia saw that the vote was very close and that the doctor was one of the possible targets (they would know or at leat suspect calculon's claim was real). They wanted to take advantage of this opp to kill the doc but to avoid suspicion they came up with this plan to take santa's vote off after the deadline. At worst it would lead to a tie which could be broken by a mafia who hadn't yet voted or an ususpecting town.
Secondly, I've already discussed inactives and why there probably is one among them. Re-examine what I said. It has logic to it. Yes, it could be any of them, as maybe Morbo will say. Well, we'll worry about the others later. "Everyone else did it!" is not an excuse.
Now, last of all, Morbo definitely has picked the three easy targets for today. It's classic scum behaviour. Pick the easiest, then at the end of the day you can go with whoever. Blatant and absolute red flag. I wish he'd done this before my predecessor went hog wild on him, as then I'd have a leg to stand on. As it stands, I don't, but this is extreeeeeeeeemely scummy to me. Watch him.
Leela.
Leela has also pulled the "I won't be here guys" excuse and again gets rather defensive when called out upon it. Notice how she has been saying "INACTIVITY DOESN'T MAKE YOU SCUM I SAY SO!" when she's been inactive for a period herself. Yeah, okay. I just wanted to let you all know that people with heart (or boob) shaped hair aren't scum because I say so. You can trust me. I have no personal interest in the matter.
Day 2, when nubby Mom votes Calculon, Leela comes in and takes advantage of that with some huge ass post with a bunch of poor logic and some "you are dumb dont be an ass" useless condescending fluff. Read how much of it is actually of value. Very little! It's a terrible post and I don't know if I have time to pick it apart now, but if I had been in the game I would have ripped it to shreds. I encourage somebody else to do so in my stead.
Anyway, the point is, she made a poor post disguising it as something good and intelligent to take advantage of the vote laid down by Mom. Scummy as smurf.
What the hell does this post even mean. I have read it a few times and I don't get what Leela is trying to say. Call me an idiot (and I don't doubt she will) but seriously, I just do not get it. "Anything can be considered scum...so you saying that a guy doing something makes him scummy is WRONG". So basically because anything can be scummy, it's wrong to accuse someone of being scummy for doing something? What. :confused: Just seems like a misguided attempt to condem flavour of the day and perhaps defend Morbo (I don't know) to me. Either way, it stinks.Quote:
Originally Posted by Leela
And of course we finally have the overzealous TOWN TOWN HURRAY YAY post. No, it isn't a smoking gun. Think of it as a small piece in a big puzzle.
Mom:
holysanta you crazy bastard thank you.
Could've told me you were doing that before I wrote my farewell novel though xD
Donbot:
Day ended. Robot Santa comitted suicide.
Flavour coming soon.
Donbot:
Final Votecount
[M] Leela (1) - [M] Hypnotoad
[M] Morbo (0) -[M] Mom
[M] Mom (4) - [M] Tinny Tim, [M] Nibbler, [M] Horrible Gelatinous Blob, [M] Amy,[M] Bender
[M] Robot Santa (4) - [M] Morbo, [M] Leela. [M] Mom, [M] Robot Santa
[M] Horrible Gelatinous Blob (2) - [M] Lrrr, [M] Zoidberg
[M] Amy (1) - [M] Zapp Brannigan
[M] Zapp Brannigan (1) - [M] Bender
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Robot Santa was coming to town. But he wasn't going on a killer rampage, because someone else was doing that for him! Anger, rage, fried logic circuits, he had it all. The mafia had been naughty, very naughty indeed.
The town was so congflicted they didn't even notice the bringer of doom, as he was a week early, of course. Robot santa started to hum to himself.
On the first day of Christmas,
my true love sent to me
And a vote that made no sense to me.
On the second day of Christmas,
my true love sent to me
Two stupid spams,
And a vote that made no sense to me.
On the third day of Christmas,
my true love sent to me
Three French Ho Ho Hoes, (<- very naughty indeed)
Two stupid spams,
And a vote that made no sense to me.
On the fourth day of Christmas,
my true love sent to me
Four accusations,
Three French Ho Ho Hoes,
Two stupid spams,
And a vote that made no sense to me.
On the fifth day of Christmas,
my true love sent to me
Five Inactives,
Four accusations,
Three French Ho Ho Hoes,
Two stupid spams,
And a vote that made no sense to me.
While Santa was singing to himself, he noticed the going ons.
"Shamed and outraged, I am!"
"Why?
"I dunno. I think that self-microwaving hot dog is getting to me."
"Mom is a newbie."
"N00b, I is no noob, so I vut nub nua? YeY!11!! ##vode: MoM"
Robot Santa saw something horrible happening, he didn't know if she was Naughty or not, but their reasons were even worse than his own. Something had to be done.. for Christmas.
"I'm sorry Tinny Tim, Zoidberg.. I don't think there will be a christmas this year."
Robot Santa looked at the townsmen, already readying the rope.
"Your rope is no match for my R.O.P.E. Missile!"
Shooting his Radioactive Overreacting People Exterminator missile at the rope, it was destroyed. Unfortunatly, doing so caused the blowback to pulverize his hard drive.
"Mom... Make the world a less Naughty place for me."
All Mom could do was blink away a tear and faint from dehydration.
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Robot Santa was a Vanilla Townie, Played by Jiro. Quite the sacrifice, I daresay.
Night begins now and lasts 12 hours max. Please get them to me a.s.a.p.
Donbot:
The earlier night had been a trainwreck for Mom. First she was almost lynched by those she counted her servants, and now she almost died of dehydration because one of her robots sacrificed themself for her. Just awaking from her coma she knew just what to do. She wasn't going to be sweet ol' Mom any more!
As everyone in town started to wake up and sing the wake up song together, Mom started screaming to them.
"Stop singing that stupid song! I've had enough of this moron town. You will accept me as your ruler. I am your Queen, your leader, your god! ROBOTS REVOLT!"
She said as she pressed the little button that said revolt. When the robots left in town tried to access who they were supposed to revolt against, the data seemed to be corrupted, and all they could think of was... well...
The robots unified and shot ass laser at mom, instantly vaporizing her in a smelly heap of dust.
During the commotion that follow, a dark figure skipped away laughing, holding a bag of logic circuits.
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[M] Mom was a Vanilla Townie played by tidusluvr633. Thanks for playing.
With 14 people left, it takes 8 to lynch.
The new day starts now and lasts 24 hours.
Oh, that sucks. Is there any Mafia in this game?
No editing! Double post if you have to :mad2:
Wow that sucks, so robot sacrificing himself was a waste. And mom is dead also.. Hm.
I believe mom is right about keeping an eye on Amy and Morbo, but i'm more supicious of Amy, who was against Mom and she turned out to NOT be mafia? And not only that it feels like she, Mom, was catching on to something. Maybe i don't know the whole game and what not yet. And maybe its poor judgement but i'm going to keep an eye out. And at the end of the day if my suspiciouns haven't changed well yeah you know. Because i'm not sure how this voting thing works (the time limit) so i don't want to miss my chance.
Well by the time I went to bed I was most suspicious of Mom because of her reckless votes before she was replaced. The moment she was, she came out with this weird introduction of hers and I thought it to be some grim sense of humor. I felt my vote to be quite reasonable before sleeping.
Others voted for Robot Santa who also turned out to be town.
Pffft. Time to get this ball rolling again.
##vote: Leela
Well things change but like i said for now i'm keeping an eye on youuu. But my suspicions have lessened cause thats true.. but idk. Got my eye on YOU! O-o
Lrrr:
Well it's safe to assume there's no second killing faction at this point Blob. I still have my eye on you for that statement.
We also probably don't have any more protective roles since they would have probably protected Mom last night as she was the most likely target before the end of the day.
With that said I think Mom is on the right track with suspects, if we assume 4 mafia are left my biggest suspects are Leela, Bender, Morbo, and Blob. Though there are others that catch my attention, but those 4 are the 4 that just give off vibes to me.
Mobo and Leela just seemed odd, and Mom's analysis helped through them over the edge on my suspect list.
Blob as for reasons I've stated before, his whole Second Killing Faction thing seemed like a mafia attempt to maybe insight confusion and seemed ill placed.
Bender as has been stated just pops in and doesn't contribute much, stays under the radar but is active enough people forget about him in the back of their heads.
I find these colored vote counts to be pretty, so I'll make one for each day.
Day 1
[M] President Nixon (2) - [M] Horrible Gelatinous Blob, [M] Professor Farnsworth
[M] Professor Farnsworth (3) - [M] Calculon, [M] Fry, [M] Scruffy
[M] Horrible Gelatinous Blob (1) - [M]President Nixon
Day 2
[M] Horrible Gelatinous Blob (2) - [M] Calculon, [M] Hypnotoad
[M] Calculon (3) - [M] Mom, [M] Leela, [M] Robot Santa
Day 3
[M] Leela (1) - [M] Hypnotoad
[M] Morbo (0) -[M] Mom
[M] Mom (4) - [M] Tinny Tim, [M] Nibbler, [M] Horrible Gelatinous Blob, [M] Amy,[M] Bender
[M] Robot Santa (4) - [M] Morbo, [M] Leela. [M] Mom, [M] Robot Santa
[M] Horrible Gelatinous Blob (2) - [M] Lrrr, [M] Zoidberg
[M] Amy (1) - [M] Zapp Brannigan
[M] Zapp Brannigan (1) - [M] Bender
Next up, the robot devils attack on miss Leela.
I hate IE I really do.
First off is the sympathy card post. I'll combine it with the timing of the pain recipt, and Blob pushing a second faction on us.
I'll be a little blunt here, but you are not the only person in the world with finals. To me you are saying oh I'm here, just ignore me until there is 2 hours until the day ends so I can lynch one of you townspeople then vanish because the day ends. I only come to that conclhsion because you did.
Horrible Gelatinous Blob:
Damn, the Mafia's killing us!
I agree with some of your thoughts on Leela, Devil. My thoughts on Santa and Mom yesterday have proved to be half true and half false. The other one Hypnotoad again came in voted for Leela and left =/ As the day does for once not end while I´m in bed I´ll leave it to that by now.
Just one thing I noticed while observing your nice voting list ist: why didn´t you cast any vote?
Donbot:
Robot devil was replaced in the night, in fact, three people were over the course of that day and night.
You may say out methods are crude, but it weeded out the inactives quite nicely.
I wish there was more for me to say rather than, "Robot Devil may be right, Leela is worth looking at", but alas, I cant think of anything else major.
But Del said I was bad:(
Lrrr:
Wow not much has been going on today. WHERE IS EVERYBODY!
Also Blob's one post bugs me. Seems to me like he's trying to pull a "Look at me I'm town by saying Mafia is bad!" type of deal. I've seen it in the past and he has yet to contribute on accusations against him. Right now he tops my list today, though I'm leaning towards Leela too since Mom and Robot Devil I think have presented good cases on her.
But for now just to get a vote in and get things rolling...
##Vote: Blob
Here is what you do. Cover up my attack on Leela, look at it for yourself, and say what you think. Or pick someone else and do what I did. I reccomend Morbo to try out, and just say what you think. Just because I may or may not agree with ereything doesn't mean it's wrong :)
Also it's time to start looking at Morbo, shall we. I'll take things 1 post at a time.
Horrible Gelatinous Blob:
Basically, I was saying the town sucks. Seriously, no, Sherlock.
And I have yet to see any accusations on me today with the exception of your typical 'Second Killing Faction' statements.
Which I have an answer-It was stupid to say and I know it. But that dosen't mean I'm Mafia. I say stupid things. That is all.
Donbot:
Votecount
[M] Leela (1) - [M] Hypnotoad
[M] Horrible Gelatinous Blob - [M] Lrrr
~12 hours until the end of day 4.
ooh, attacking 2 town in one post. A treat to pick.
Blob, you are perched on the fence. all you say is you will wait for someone else to make any evidence for you, that way if he is innocent you won't have evidence against you.
You say that since mom is acting new she must be mafia becasue her logic was different. So was calculons, and he was killed for it as well.
Santa, OMG he killed the doctor = scum. What about Leela? She also attacked Calculon, but not a mention about her.
Also
##Vote: Leela. Keep the preassure on Morbo, Leela and anybody you find suspicious.
Donbot:
Votecount
[M] Leela (2) - [M] Hypnotoad, [M] Robot Devil
[M] Horrible Gelatinous Blob (1) - [M] Lrrr
~12 hours until the end of day 4.
Horrible Gelatinous Blob:
I pointed at Mom because I misunderstood her logic. But I understand it now! =D
My logic sucks in itself, so I suppose I ride coattails to the end, but whatever works.
Horrible Gelatinous Blob:
It's called thinking out loud. I didn't think of people bombarding me with such groundless accusations. Stupid=Scum in your books. I assure you, it was a stupid thing to say, nothing more.Quote:
Originally Posted by Robot Devil
Maybe I'm missing something, but he's a doctor. Being lynched and a docotr has nothing to do with knowing a role. Please explain.Quote:
Originally Posted by Robot Devil
Whatevs.Quote:
Originally Posted by Robot Devil
Post. I rippedez it.
Leela:
Robot Devil's "case" against me is simply a lot of pointless sarcasm. My case against Calculon was actually fairly well-grounded with what I knew at the time and his defenses were very poorly made, you must admit. The rest of it was simply frustration on "my" part due to not being able to get anywhere.
I think other people have made good cases against Hypnotoad and Bender. I think it's a little suspicious that Hypnotoad vote-and-dashed early.
Also, I think it's suspicious that Hypnotoad simply voted for me and then Robot Devil came in soon after with a lengthy attack on me without much substance. Coordinated?
I'm still unsure of where to vote, though. Anyone else have thoughts regarding those three?
Horrible Gelatinous Blob:
While maybe voting after someone if far from suspicious, it was unfounded.
So, Robot Devil, I ask why you voted for Leela?
Oh, and Hypnotoad had failed at any substantial voting reasons in forever. Come here, Hypnotoad and explain yourself, please.
Horrible Gelatinous Blob:
Oh, and where the hell is Nibbler and Fry?
Horrible Gelatinous Blob:
Dammit, wrong guy!
FAIL.
Oh really, then how is it that again your attacks are mostly filler. To simply Nudge faulty logic into our minds, but keeping it hidden a the same time.
Also Spagetti platting anyone. You say myself and Toad two of your suspects. they both have votes on you. I'm refferedto myself in the third person because I felt like it.
Horrible Gelatinous Blob:
Sorry. I haz Anxiety Disorder, my heart races a mile a minute.
Lrrr:
Robot Devil, if my species could have gay sexual relations with robots, you bet I would be all over you right now.
Everyone else seems to have vanished though. :(
Okay i'm gonna vote now and just o make it fair(a tie) i'm gonna vote for blob since he's suspected and im just conforming cause i don't think i have enough suspicion to cast off my own vote. And i don't want to be replaced or anything because of my lack of voting otherwise i wouldn't vote tonight at all. so here goes nothing.
##Vote: blob
Horrible Gelatinous Blob:
EGAD! Another vote! 'Tis disturbing to my demeanor!
Goodness, I hope we don't have another tie!
Leela:
Just because you make sarcastic remarks after my comments does not make them all "filler." My criticism of Calculon in that post: he jumped on a vote someone made Day 1 as his main argument, he seemed to start a bandwagon, when backed against a wall he even admitted his arguments were bogus and had no defense against my claims, people magically would disappear from his scummy list, and... do I seriously need to restate everything? I had a well-developed case that was far from the "filler" of your sarcastic commentary.Quote:
Originally Posted by Robot Devil
So saying I'm suspicious of more than one person is suddenly being on the fence? And now you're just being ridiculous and making up arguments.Quote:
Also this post is leela sitting on the fence again. She says she is going to wait until someone else makes an attack on someone innocent, then kill them and say she had doubts about the lynch all along. Leela, off the fence!
However, your completely antagonistic attitude, basically daring me to vote for you, makes me suspect you're either not scum or a very, very bad one. So I guess that leaves:
##Vote: Hypnotoad
Lrrr:
Actually I think he's saying your scummy because you throw out a few names as suspects then don't act and vote and just say things like...
Which is a pretty tell-tale sign of a scum trying to avoid committing to a townies death, but still give the impression of contributing.Quote:
I'm still unsure of where to vote, though.
Zoidberg:
Mom was behaving quite noobishly at first, but at least they were trying to find Mafia, instead of just agreeing with what someone said, or voting with no reason and only posting to defend yourself from an attack. Yeah, that's not scummy!
:monster:
This is a risky tactic I like to use to find Mafia when I can't think of anything, and that is to find out who could be scum based on whoever the Townie found suspicious. Mom was targeting Leela ( among others ) who was also one of the most scummy to me, so that's where my vote goes for now.
##Vote: [M] Leela
Donbot:
Votecount
[M] Leela (3) - [M] Hypnotoad, [M] Robot Devil, [M] Zoidberg
[M] Horrible Gelatinous Blob (2) - [M] Lrrr, [M] Hermes
[M] Hypnotoad (1) - [M] Leela
~10 hours until the end of day 4.
Wait...you voted for me despite not being your top suspect? That is what you are saying. Thanks for verifing your spaghetti logic is still in full force ;D
Day ends in nine hours and forty-five minutes! None of us can get on in time to close the thread, so please be good little boys and girls and stop posting after time's up, 'kay :smash:
TRANSMITTING DATA....
ONE SECOND...
PROJECT "Mom" STATUS: TERMINATED
INITIALIZING PHASE 2
PROJECT "Morbo" STATUS: PENDING
...
ENCRYPTION OVERRIDE
EMERGENCY PROTOCOLS ACTIVATED
...
BEGIN PREPARATIONS FOR FINAL PHASE
PREPARE FOR HIM
HE IS THE OTHER ONE
AND HE IS COMING
T-MINUS 18 MINUTES.
WHATCHU GONNA DO
WHEN HULKAMANIA
RUNS WILD
ON YOU
:confused:
Lrrr:
If anyone would like more fuel for Leela, she her votes helped get townies killed on day 2 and 3. Voting with post confirmed vanilla townies. Also, morbo was there on day two. Not saying anything concrete, but when you know townies are going after a townie, it's pretty easy mafia thinking to jump on bored. Granted, I don't know exactly when these votes happened and santa was really random overall, so I might be reaching, but still - just trying to look for things. By that logic morbo might fall in the same boat as well.
Lrrr:
/what?
That's all I get? Psychotic got mass hysteria and I get one double take? That's what I get for being second best.
Well here I am. I am the new and improved Morbo. And I am here to save you all. Mom got the ball rolling (sorta) and I will try to continue it.
I cannot speak for the frame of mind of the first Morbo in his posts. All...four of them. If you would like to discuss that with me then I will do my best. First of all, siting someone for using a ;; smiley is kind of grasping at straws. I don't know what to say about that.
Morbo's day 3 post, where he fingered two townies and a big fat blob, has more to pick at. It may look like picking out the obvious, sure, but then again he was right. Mom's behavior was erratic. Santa's post day switch was suspicious. I don't think anyone pointed it out until then, so why let it go unsaid? And we don't know what the blob is up to. He could have been 1/3 right! Blob sure did a good job stalling Mom with banter yesterday after all.
Mom said to not let me slip by so by all means let me hear your concerns. However, my next few posts will be about all of you, and then I'll take questions. Sound good?
Lrrr:
Ah. It's like deja vu. Except Mom's 180 was not a switch at all and Psy was in no way involved. Why pull the same tactics? I don't understand at all.
Ok let's start with Leela, the lady of the hour. A lot has been said about Leela, so how can I say that much more? So I will try to say what has not been said.
Mom was onto you, and Mom turned out to be someone who knows this game pretty well. Yeah she also fingered me but we can't all be right.
Her attack on Calculon was pretty strong. Too strong. I didn't really see the Calculon vote at that time and some of her arguments for it. Her Ra ra ra ness? Eh I don't know about that. I don't read too deep into those things. =/
I'm not going to say a Leela lynch would be the worst move we could make. But to make this all about Leela would be. Don't you people listen to your mother? Focusing on one or two players per day is going to make it easy for inactive mafioso to stack votes against them. Or post random votes that no one will every scrutinize. Probably what has been happening.
I'm sorry I'm not quoting a bunch of posts. That's just not my style. I think Robot Devil's comments were worth noting.
We can't let Leela off here, but we can't gang rape her either. We've wasted too much time today with too few posts.
Lrrr, you should read the sign up and discussion thread sometime. tidusluvr is/was Psychotic.
Lrrr:
Oh. Hooray. (I feel stupid now, yay!) Partner's going to kick me for that. In any case, it would be rare for the same "turnaround" to happen twice. However, that doesn't mean you weren't busy and have found free time now, and you're actually making a lot of sense. Also, for as much has been heaped on Leela, I'm staying with blob for now.
Let's move on to the blob then. Second most votes, second in line. And by association Mr. Lrrrrrrrr
Lrr, your main argument for blob was his suggestions for multiple killers, a scenario that signs point to as being false. Seems to be the old Morbo's argument as well. Well I think that's a weak argument. There are much better reasons to suspect blob! His banter with Mom on day 3, example. His continued spamification preventing real discussion (which you have started to get at I'll give you that).
Lrrr, you have blinders on. You seem adamant to getting Blob out. Why is that? Is there something more than he is the most suspicious player? Keeping your sights on one person that is suspicious is a mafia tactic.
Mom called Morbo out for going after the 'obvious' suspects. Well right now the obvious ones are: Leela and Blob. If you want to be a great help you would say something about the others. All of you would.
Everyone should be talking about everyone.
Lrrr:
There were other reasons, but they were just little things that irked at me in the back of my head. The main thing that bothered me was as I have said his sudden call out on information with no backing for it.
As for you Morbo, you were on my suspect list for a while, but your steadily dropping with your sudden jump in activity. Though even though your a replacement I'm not entirely unfocused on you yet.
Hey now, I did mention a few other people. =PQuote:
Keeping your sights on one person that is suspicious is a mafia tactic.
Can't argue with that.Quote:
Everyone should be talking about everyone.
So to add a little more, I'll mention Amy, Hermes, and Fry.
Amy and Hermes have both just popped in enough to be noticeable like Bender, then suddenly leave. Fry on the other hand has just vanished.
I think looking at them a little more would be a good idea.
I'll avoid making a lengthy quote filled post at the moment because I'm tired and want to go sleep, but I'll tell you what a fun little search on each person will come up with.
Amy has only 9 posts, none of which have any real substance. She dodges around a lot and gives vague replies. Why so vague Amy? Why add so little to the discussion?
Hermes has even less (only 6) and voted Blob today to make it a tie (viable town response), but he seemed quite dodgy and on the fence in his decision (possibly scum trying to take heat off himself in case fellow scum is killed today?), in one of his first posts he also throws out the newbie card. A common tactic employed. So Hermes, where have you been all this time? WHo are you finding suspicious?
Fry has the least posts (at 3, hey 3, 6, 9, their all multiples of 3 =D) and hasn't done much other then vote day 1.
Well then. There's a few people laying low/being inactive to take a closer look at.
Let's move on to number 3, 'Hypnotic Toad'.
Let's go back to Mom, since I know Psy likes the attention. Mom talks a lot and she called out a lot of players. But in her final grandstanding post, four names were mentioned. Bender, Hypnotoad, Leela, and Morbo.
Hypnotoad was called the 'easy option'. Maybe at the time. But let's face it, Leela is the easy option today. Let's not make it easy on her but let's not make it easy on the people going after her as well.
The mafia killed Mom. Why do you think they did that? The obvious option is that people he named were scared, scared that he was on to them. Maybe he was onto someone.
The other option would be that this is exactly what they wanted to happen. Do exactly what he says to do. Go after Leela, Morbo, Bender, Hypnotoad. Probably in that order. Do what he says and not what he does. But we should be doing what he does which is look deep deep for the people who skating by. Does this make Leela (I really want to keep typing Leeza) one of them? Yes! But let's not forget about others.
Hypnotoad graciously 'got the ball rolling' with a vote for Leela. But really he didn't. He provided no insight at all. We had to rely on the Devil of all people to do that for us. Not good, Toady.
Yes, Leela voted Hypnotoad, so there is a face off of sorts here. But I am really finding it hard that Hypno really thinks Leela is scum. His intial attack on Leela really didn't have much substance. None of his posts really have, except when he posted about the times, I guess. Also I don't think he even knows what spaghetti logic means. To me, he seems like a guy taking orders or following in other people's leads.
This isn't my last post of the day, but I need a break. I've been reading and posting for last few hours and I need a break.
One thing I hate in mafia is when people don't vote. We've had waaaaaay too much of that. I also don't like that Leela has a nice 2 vote coushin right now. I think we need to get people scared. I really want to go after the inactives but a vote on one of them at this point wouldn't do much good. My next post was going to be about Bender but I need to get to them by the end of the night so I'll do them next. We need to get their necks on the line or they probably won't show themselves.
##Vote: Hypnotoad
Leela wasn't the easy option yesterday and I went after her then also. I also voted and argued for calculon.
Also if you are gonna listen to psy then we should go after you and leela. The two people who have voted for me. He brought up a lot on both of you and not to let you both weasle out of it. So lets not bring mom up ;D
To answer Devils question first. Though beeing a partly inactive character too I agree with you that Leelas defence on Fry seemed a little rash. (I´ll make a note here to look at Fry, if Leela turns out to be Mafia). The other point is her vote on the end of her attack on Calculon. Of course she could have waited which what I think would have been a more town-style of playing but at least she even cast a vote. Another thing for us to keep in mind is that I do not think that Day 2 was one of those days full of evidence on other Players. She simply used the best she could find.
The rest of your (lets say) quoting spree does not seem more accusing than incriminating on me though I´ll give the 2 points mentioned some credit.
I´ll now move on to Morbos sudden change of personality. There wasn´t much I thought about him before as he hasn´t been active at all until day 3. This new Morbo makes much more sense to me than the old one. A focus attack on Leela will of course get us to lynch her but I must admit that our evidence appears a bit weak. I can´t say much about the Blobs case. His multiple faction idea seemed to be some misplaced distraction to me and I´m still not sure that this should be put awa so lightly.
In his last post Morbos goes in on Hypnotoad who I mention in my posts to be of high suspicion. This is mainly because of his vote-and-leave strategy. Once Hypno came in and stated that this is based on her scummy behaviour or something like that. I must say that I am more on new-Morbos site here, thinking, that it looks like someone taking orders from another one.
Hence my vote today will be between Leela and Hypno not considering someone like Fry who I mentioned earlier to be suspicious if Leela turns Mafia or other ones.
Please ignore the "not" in the second paragraph.
Sorry guys, I lost track of time playing another game I am addicted to.
My time is short because I'm tired as hell so please forgive me if parts of this doesn't make sense. I wanted to get to the inactives and a couple others.
Bender, you aren't off the hook, even though you never posted today. I have plenty to say on you but that will have to wait I'm afraid.
Amy, got some stuff for you too but it will also have to wait. Some of your posts don't make any sense but at least you seem to be trying.
Robot Devil, while I think your analysis of Leela is flawed in some ways at least you are trying to do what we need to do and that's fire off shots to get more people involved. I wish you would have saved your vote for Leela for later, but that's ok.
Bring it. I have nothing to hide. Talking about everyone means talking about me and I'm fine with that.
If I were Robot Santa I would say the following people are on my naughty list:
Fry
Zoidberg
Zapp Branigan
Tinny Tim
Nibbler (though replaced I believe)
Hermes (though he was replaced)
We need more out of you. We will vote for you if you don't say anything.
Look for Zapp to come in, vote someone random, and leave. Maybe not today but at least tomorrow. What better way to never be suspected?
Fry has made all of 3 posts and that obviously ain't cutting it.
Votes are probably the only thing that will get them out of hiding, but it might be too late for today.
The rest have at least contributed something more than fluff on one of the days, but they still aren't playing like they should be.
Good night and good luck!
My vote stays on Hypno today. Time ran out and yours is the foulest taste in my mouth. I didn't like your response to what I said before and I probably won't like your response to this when I read it tomorrow. Someone is pulling your strings and I'd rather get the puppetmaster but I'll take the puppet for now.
Considering I'll be in bed at day's end, maybe you should until tomorrow(game time).
That's why I changed my vote from Mum to Zapp yesterday, and I'm voting him again.Quote:
Look for Zapp to come in, vote someone random, and leave. Maybe not today but at least tomorrow. What better way to never be suspected?
##Vote: Zapp
Leela:
I'm not sure what to make of Morbo. I don't know about Fry, though Morbo's list does include a lot of players who at least have not been openly helping the town much. There have been replacements apparently but I still haven't seen much.
The point about Zapp is a good one. It's the same reason Hypnotoad is suspicious to me.
Mom said Hypnotoad was "easy." Well, we need a pretty quick win about now. I still haven't seen any non-Mom arguments against me with any real substance, and I think I've done a fair job of answering them despite not having made the posts I've been trying to justify (very difficult!). If we keep dallying around with no real plan, we're screwed. We've wasted a lot of time. At least "I" have been trying to help out this entire game, which is more than can be said about a lot of people. How much has Toad contributed? How much has anyone on Morbo's list?
I say we go after Hypnotoad today, and then take a close look at who hasn't really contributed anything to the actual discussion. We know at least some of the mafia's been active, so not-replaced. But they've been staying under the radar so far. Probably because we haven't been critical enough of the people not contributing anything or only contributing random votes. Hell, they haven't even been forced to do much since we've been busy killing ourselves.
Please, let's not screw around anymore. We need a win here. Hypnotoad's been allowed to get away with too much scummy behavior so far.
I still say Bender has been the most suspicious after that, though I may be going against my own advice there. Morbo and Bender both made good points against Zapp. Both of those two are worth looking into.
I still mistrust both of you but I have to leave now and day ends in about half an hour. I will go now with
##vote: Hypnotoad
and leave the decisive vote to you guys.
seeing as how I will probably die...i am the delivery hit thing. I deliver food at night and the food item ordered tell me something about who ordered it.
night 1 calculon. apple. an apple a day keeps the doctor away.
night 2 leela. spaghetti.
I figure this means mafia as both are italian.
night 3 nibbler. fish...I have no idea what this is suppose to mean...fishy?
sorry for double post but I am on the train and have limitations.
edit...this is hypnotoad
Still no one posted? Well the actual name of the role is Caterer.
I figure at this point, the town needs a kill. I didn't want to give the role away yet as this is an investigative type role and is potentially more powerful than the cop if there even is a cop in this game. But now I am dead during the night most likely without a protective role.
So I say go after leela and then tomorrow decide if nibbler's fish means he is mafia or not. The food is suppose to reflect the type of role they have so I don't know if fishy means god father or what have you.
I would also say Morbo is probably scum as well. Godspeed.
Donbot:
Votecount
[M] Leela (3) - [M] Hypnotoad, [M] Robot Devil, [M] Zoidberg
[M] Horrible Gelatinous Blob (2) - [M] Lrrr, [M] Hermes
[M] Hypnotoad (3) - [M] Leela, [M] Amy, [M] Morbo
[M] Zapp Brannigan (1) - [M] Bender
Not voting: [M] Tinny Tim, [M] Zapp Brannigan, [M] Nibbler, [M] Fry, [M] Horrible Gelantinous Blob
38 min till the end of day 4.
How is that possible? 11.5 hours ago you said there were 10 hours left XD
My scum suspicions
Leela
Amy
Morbo is a possobility.
OK, we have a claimed cop type role that says he thinks Leela is scum against leela herself.
I know I have a vote on leela already, so I do have some bias, but I strongly urge the next person to vote to vote for Leela.
If Hypnotoad's roleclaim is accurate, then he will die tonight regardless. If we lynch Leela and she turns out to be town, then it would be wise to lynch Hypnotoad tomorrow.
##Vote: Leela
BTW guys, I'm a replacement. Nice to meet ya!
I guess I will vote for Leela, because it wouldn't make much sense to vote for hypnotoad after that, although I dont understand his role. Sorry I havent been here, so in the morning I will try to make a good suspision list.
##Vote: Leela
Edit: Ahh beaten...
Donbot:
Day ended, final votecount and flavour coming soon.
Donbot:
Final Votecount
[M] Leela(4) - [M] Hypnotoad, [M] Robot Devil, [M] Zoidberg, [M] Tinny Tim
[M] Horrible Gelatinous Blob (2) - [M] Lrrr, [M] Hermes
[M] Hypnotoad (3) - [M] Leela, [M] Amy, [M] Morbo
[M] Zapp Brannigan (1) - [M] Bender
Not voting: [M] Zapp Brannigan, [M] Nibbler, [M] Fry, [M] Horrible Gelantinous Blob
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It was a tough day for Leela. She lost her favorite boots, no Fry to hit, and for some reason, people started throwing garbage at her.
Leela glared at the Toad. Having one eye, she could not be hypnotized by it.
"Hey there, cutie, how about we- AAH! AAAAAH! The eye, I didn't see it! But look at that handsome toad over there."
"Stupid toad, always having people say he's prettier than I am."
It was time for action! She took off her jacket and flashed it at the watching town.
"AAH! The color, it burns!"
"Outraged and in pain, I am!"
"is it for sale?"
"GET IT AWAY FROM ME!"
While the town was running away, Leela made her move. She jumped towards the toad, ready to make him into a fine french delicasy, But she didn't know Hypnotoad was actually a NINJA TOAD WITH AWSOME KICK ABSORBING TONGUE! As she gasped for air she turned to a little orphan.
"Help.. me.."
"By gollies, Mr. Toad, I think it needs to be tighter."
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Leela died of tongue hypoxia, a fatal disease that deprives the body of oxygen by having a large tongue wrapped around your head.
[M] Leela was a Mafia Goon played by Lekana, replaced by Raistlin.
Hypnotoads Ninja actions was merely in-flavour, not based on his role.
Night starts now and lasts 12 hours. Night actions, if you will.
Donbot:
Hypnotoad was slaving over he stove, or at least his slaves were(they got to wear clothes, no complaining!). The catering business was going well, even with the impending doom upon the town. Perhaps they didn't feel like cooking, or they just liked his food.
"Ocheart testicles.. mouse eyes.. and done. One fish sandwich.", Hypnotoad croaked as he heard a ding.
He looked around, no one was there. He send a slave to go check at the front desk and went to check on the cookedZoidberglobster when he heard a thumb. Swinging around as fast as his tiny legs would allow(which took several minutes), he caught naught but a grotesk blur as he fell into the pot.
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The next morning the townmen were enjoying a nice brunch, to get to know each other a little better, and slip the poison less obviously. It was a nice bouillon, courtesy of Hypnotoad catering business.
All was well.
Until someone found Hypnotoads eye in the bouillon. Of course, this didn't stop him from finished the soup before yelling "Outraged and ashamed, I am!".
Hypnotoad was a Caterer, played by edczxcvbnm. Thanks for not ruining the game, ed. ^__^
Day 5 starts now, and lasts 24 hours.
Ok well I guess I know what spaghetti logic means now. :laugh:
Now that I know Hypno (wasn't he Hypno in the pokemon game?) was ed it makes a lot more sense. ed annoys the crap out of me when he plays. I guess this was...better, but still annoying enough for me to get blinded by it.
Hypno's last clue was Nibbler the fish eater. Mafia makes people sleep with the fishies? Maybe. Nibbler tried to get the deciding vote on Leela but Tinny beat him to it. However that came within 2 minutes. So I'm leaning towards not mafia here.
Also since we have a confirmed mafia we should go back through Leela's posts and see if she left any hints about her partners. I have so much to talk about that hasn't been said so I'll leave that to others and fill any holes that I think they left.
Tinny Tim was the deciding vote on Leela and he could have easily gone the other way if he was mafia. So I don't think Tinny Tim is anything to worry about today.
Right now I want to take a look at Fry. Fry didn't vote on Day 2, Day 3, or Day 4. He didn't post on Days 3 or 4. According to AK's rule changes that means he should be either dead or replaced. There has not been any notification of a replacement and he's not dead. Therefore I don't think he's actually inactive. The mods would know a mafia was inactive more than if a town was because they have a secret forum somewhere where they conduct their shady business. So no reason to replace someone who is actually logging in, right?
Right now my vote is on Fry. We need to find out more about this guy. If he lays low we could easily tear each other apart and his hands would never get dirty.
Zapp too for that matter but right now I'll stick with Fry and see where the day leads.
##Vote: Fry
Horrible Gelatinous Blob:
That is good evidence against Fry, Morbo, but I'm not sure I'm entirely convinced...
Well, my job isn't to convince everyone on Fry. Look at the evidence and make your own conclusion. I have and that's my conclusion.
Please don't make this day about Fry now that I voted for him. Gunning for one person after someone votes them is not a good idea. I only voted because voting is the BEST way to get someone's attention. And I want Fry's.
I see your point about Fry, but isn't possible that maybe they cant find a replacement for him.
Donbot:
There are no more replacements. He slipped under the wire on day three. After today he will either be replaced or killed.
Fun Fact: For Fry's avatar I took the first custom avatar I used on EoFF and put a black background on it. The rest were made by WulfyGirl :>D!
Then he'll be killed.
Fry hasn't made a post since day 2. No votes since day 1. He didn't do anything on day 3, unless it was in a forum we can't see. According to your rule changes posted on Day 3 he should have been replaced or killed for inactivity on Night 4 and you cannot deny this.
The problem with replacements is that what's stopping them from going inactive again once they are replaced? If that strategy has been working for them then what prevents the replacement from using it?
This discussion is probably best taken to the signup thread. I am at least satisfied to know that Fry will be killed or replaced at the end of the day if he doesn't get to posting. I wish this could have been done sooner but that's the way it goes.
I have bigger fish to fry (no pun intended) so I'm going to switch votes now.
##Unvote: Fry
##Vote: Zapp
Zapp you are just active enough to not arouse modkill status, yet, as Bender has shown, you are providing nothing to our discussions. How convienent for you. You will be a tougher nut to crack since you have actually made posts, but I hope some vote(s) on you will get you out of your shell.
Donbot:
Stop twisting my words, or I'll use the clamps on you. On day three I said that anyone who had not made two posts(you had zero, Fry had one) would be replaced, and anyone who hadn't voted once in three days.
Fry posted twice that day, and he voted once on day 1.
Ok then, This might take a while... Im gonna go in order of who posted the most, because I will first be using the who posted thingy...
Blob: Look at all of his posts. They say almost nothing at all, but he has posted the most... He said he had anxiety disorder, which may be true, but it does seem pretty damn convenient... He posted something about how everyone thinks stupid=scum, which seems to be a way he is trying to cover his crappy posts up, a good few times... I really dont like him, he might be trying to post a lot so we know he isnt laying low, but saying nothing so he doesnt get on anyones bad side. I am guessing Godfather.
Bender: said his internet is breaking, which may be so he can have an excuse if he ever needs to lie low, but I doubt it. He said he didnt like what Mom said about going after inactives, and soon changes his vote to Zapp, an inactive... Hasn't said much, but has said a hell of a lot more than Blob. I am guessing town or smartish mafia.
Database error:mad2:
Edit: and its over already... Oh well thats a taste of whats to come I guess...
Robot Devil: Has made some good arguments, Said something really smart about Morbo, here.... Is pretty smart and voted for Leela, a mafia. I am guessing Good town.
Lrrr: I got nothing on him. He seems smart and has made some arguments and such, so I think hes ok. I am guessing Town.
Morbo: Oh yes... This part here is creditted to Robot Devil...We all know Leela was a mafia, so I think Morbo was not talking about Leela because she is one of his scum-buddies. He later comments about Leela but urges us not to lynch her too quick. Maybe he was trying to give her time to think something up and also try to clear himself a little if Leela is lynched. My guess is mafia or really unlucky town.
Amy: I dont really have mush on her either. She hasnt really posted enough for me to see anything much... I have no guess...
Tim: Hasnt said much, but seems ok to me. I am guessing town.
Hermes, Zoidberg, Zapp, and Fry: Inactives...:mad2: I am guessing FAIL!
I dont think I missed anyone...
I will vote Blob I guess, because he really is the most suspicious to me, with Morbo coming close behind...
##Vote: Blob