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Search Google for "Saddam death toll". Here's one: http://users.erols.com/mwhite28/warstat3.htm Judge its value as you will. It says 500,000+. We will likely never know for sure.
Saying Iraq was better off with Sadam seems like being anti-war for the sake of being anti-war. They're under constant poverty, and fear now? How do you think they lived under Sadam's rule, watching their own fathers being fed feet first, and alive into shredders? Yeah, that sounds much better.
My being anti-war stems from the fact that we shouldn't have done it in the first place. If I knew Bush had declared it because he wanted to liberate the Iraqi people, and had said so and stuck with the story, I MIGHT be more inclined to support it, though the lack of UN support troubles me as much now as it did then. I KNOW this isn't some altruistic crusade (Bush's own words) to free a downtrodden country from a facist dictator, I can't see how anyone could see otherwise. It just isn't the reason behind this attack. My qualms with the war stem from what I see as a blatant abuse of power and overstepping of boundaries that should NOT be crossed.Quote:
Saying Iraq was better off with Sadam seems like being anti-war for the sake of being anti-war. They're under constant poverty, and fear now? How do you think they lived under Sadam's rule, watching their own fathers being fed feet first, and alive into shredders? Yeah, that sounds much better.
I don't have a problem with the liberation of the Iraqi people. In fact, I think it'd be a great thing, IF we were truly liberating them. The region is too unstable right now for me to know if we've truly done any good, only time shall tell whether our actions have had any beneficial effects at all.
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I don't have a problem with the liberation of the Iraqi people. In fact, I think it'd be a great thing, IF we were truly liberating them. The region is too unstable right now for me to know if we've truly done any good, only time shall tell whether our actions have had any beneficial effects at all
Just like the common saying "Rome wasn't built in a day," you could also say "Berlin wasn't liberated in a day." It took nearly fifty years to completely liberate the people of Berlin and Germany. Liberating the Iraqi people isn't going to happen overnight - turmoil and domestic violence are to be expected from such a sudden regime change.
That's right. Genocidal purges (Saddam's own "war against terror", you might say) caused the deaths of tens of thousands of his own people, wars, the murder of potential enemies. Total death toll of around two million. The majority of people killed by Hussein's regime were those who died in the Iraq-Iran war, a conflict supported by the US.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dr Unne
However, the act of being an Iraqi or US citizen doesn't make anyone inherently complicit in those terrible acts. You can't say they deserve to die, or it's ok to kill them because they lived in an 'evil' country; likewise, it's pretty low to say "it's all right to kill a few thousand more of them, by accident, if the end result will be peace".
You have to remember that cogress has to pass the war also it's not just Bush saying "oh I feel like a war today" So don't blame everything on Bush because those people were/are infavor of the war and are as much resposible for it as Bush.Quote:
Originally Posted by Behold the Void