Denying fate i dont think so

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Originally Posted by Christmas

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Originally Posted by Future Esthar

Would it not make more sense if someone on the future wanna to take over his/her own world which is more advanced than the one on the past or even take over an era further than his/her?

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I have trouble understanding this statement. Someone from the future want to take over her/his own world IN THE FUTURE which is more advanced than the one on the past?

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I mean,trying to take over the world on his/her present era.
That person will not try to take over it on the past because it is more boring than on the present.

It will make even more sense if that person goes to the future and try to take over the world.

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At any rate, that's what it says when you scan her. And since Doc Odine seems to dismiss trying to investigate it further, there really isn't that much else in the game that talks about it. (Unless there's something in the Dictionary/information/tutorial/thing.) Or if someone's translated the Ultimania guide for this game too.

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Someone HAS translated it, and it clearly alludes to a second motive beyond the power motive you mention. Selphie writes (in the Ultimania):
"What was Ultimecia thinking? She was trying to survive in the only way she knew how, I think. Was she trying to reach all the way out to the past to compress time, so that she could try to erase the fate she knew was in store for her...?"

Clearly from this, and from what we can infer from the game, denying her fate was a big part of her 'mission'.

I love FFVIII, but Ultimecia is just a sorceress who wants to rule all time and space. I think that's just about the jist of it.

Ultimecia is possessed.So simple.
She is not the one trying to take over the world.

Isn't Edea the one possessed by Ultimecia...or am I totally off the mark here?

No, you're quite right. It's only Future Esthar who believes Ultimecia was possessed. Don't ask why.

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Originally Posted by Viator

It makes sense that the reason why she compress time is to deny her fate.

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It more make sense if the reason Ultimecia compress time is to fulfill her Fate death at Squall' hand.

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I love FFVIII, but Ultimecia is just a sorceress who wants to rule all time and space. I think that's just about the jist of it.

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I think Ultimecia is just a sorceress trying to find the TRUTH,in wrong way.

You people should go to the thread called "Revelation of the Truth" to find the Truth,I mean the answers.

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Originally Posted by Sir Bahamut

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At any rate, that's what it says when you scan her. And since Doc Odine seems to dismiss trying to investigate it further, there really isn't that much else in the game that talks about it. (Unless there's something in the Dictionary/information/tutorial/thing.) Or if someone's translated the Ultimania guide for this game too.

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Someone HAS translated it, and it clearly alludes to a second motive beyond the power motive you mention. Selphie writes (in the Ultimania):
"What was Ultimecia thinking? She was trying to survive in the only way she knew how, I think. Was she trying to reach all the way out to the past to compress time, so that she could try to erase the fate she knew was in store for her...?"

Clearly from this, and from what we can infer from the game, denying her fate was a big part of her 'mission'.

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I thought as much. Well, that's good then. :cat:

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Originally Posted by Sir Bahamut

No, you're quite right. It's only Future Esthar who believes Ultimecia was possessed. Don't ask why.

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Ultimecia doesn´t possess anyone.
It can´t be prooved she does and there is no machine on her time.

However I saw the machine somewhere else.
How do I know it´s the machine?

1-I saw the big version(less advanced) version of the machine and I know it´s a wave transmiting machine.
2-The telepathic properties of the advanced version will become evident when you find it.

You do know that FFVIII is a game, right? Stop overanalyzing everything! It doesn't change a damn thing. I'm a FFIX fanboy, but I do know where to draw a line, I suggest you do the same. :)

I will answer the question from Sir B a year ago.

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Originally Posted by Sir Bahamut

Explain why we only see effects from TC at the point of Adels defeat and some time into the battle with Ultimecia. (After all, since TC would have certainly reached the events we play in the game prior to Adels defeat, we have to explain why we don't see any influence in those events).

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The most important of TC is Time Decompression NOT achievement of TC.
Actually the effect of TC happen all of the time after TC start.
The reason we only see at Adels defeat and some time into the battle with Ultimecia because we ONLY play the game.

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Originally Posted by Sir Bahamut

Take into account the fact that you travel through TC and LEAVE TC before ending up in Ultimecias world, before seemingly entering TC again in Ultimecias battle. Prerably, it should explain why Odine makes it sound like you couldn't actually end up anywhere BUT Ultimecias time, when the error margin are VERY slim(considering how close Ultimecia comes to full time compression).

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Actually Squall and Co never leave TC, when they arrived at Ultimecia's Castle they still inside TC.
They can ONLY leave TC when Time Decompression.
When TC start there's no more past,present or future again.
There's only the "NOW" time.
So when they arrived at Ultimecia's Castle they're not in past,present or future.They only in the "NOW" time.
Yeah I know we can see they arrived in future but like I said When TC start there's no more past'present or future.There is only the "NOW" time

PS:Special thanks to Lychon for the "NOW" time.

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Originally Posted by Sir Bahamut

Explain why Squall and Co were not affected by TC(ie. why weren't their own individual lines of time also compressed?)

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Maybe there's connection with PUPu.
Remember PuPu gives us something(PuPu card)
PuPu card can be refined into Aegis Amulet.
Aegis Amulet can be used as Eva-J or Speed Up
Maybe because of Aegist Amulet Squall and Co can survive at TC
Maybe this is the answer,maybe not,who knows...

Actually, they were unaffected because Time Compression hadn't been completed yet, and because they kept focused on one another, and where they needed to be, as Laguna suggested. They had an edge, of course, because they prepared for it, but this technique seemed to work for a lot of people. The chocobo boy, even in Time Compression, was just where he wanted to be; the CC group, led by Xu, were on the Ragnarok (don't get me started) and then Squall and company went through to find Ultimecia's castle.

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Actually, they were unaffected because Time Compression hadn't been completed yet, and because they kept focused on one another, and where they needed to be, as Laguna suggested. They had an edge, of course, because they prepared for it, but this technique seemed to work for a lot of people. The chocobo boy, even in Time Compression, was just where he wanted to be; the CC group, led by Xu, were on the Ragnarok (don't get me started) and then Squall and company went through to find Ultimecia's castle.

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That is very simple answer Qurange.I am sure there's more than that.

The chocoboy boy,the CC group ONLY GAMEPLAY ASPECT.
They had nothing to do with the storyline.

So, you're allowed to point out 'flaws' when they're convenient for you, and ignore parts of the game at the same times? They're gameplay aspects, yes, but the story is also required to explain them, just like the rest of gameplay. Explaining them this way fits perfectly with canon; Laguna said that the important thing was to focus on one another; there's nothing that says other people couldn't have anchored themselves the same way.

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Originally Posted by Viator

The chocoboy boy,the CC group ONLY GAMEPLAY ASPECT.
They had nothing to do with the storyline.

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No No dear. Both Xu and Quistis are part of the group and they DO have something to do with the storyline.

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Maybe there's connection with PUPu.
Remember PuPu gives us something(PuPu card)
PuPu card can be refined into Aegis Amulet.
Aegis Amulet can be used as Eva-J or Speed Up
Maybe because of Aegist Amulet Squall and Co can survive at TC
Maybe this is the answer,maybe not,who knows...

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I KNOW.