Ah, you're right. So it is Orange, I guess I just forgot.Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] Leviathan
Ah, you're right. So it is Orange, I guess I just forgot.Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] Leviathan
Hmm, seems like something you wouldn't forget so easily, though I'd hate for this to be about color!
Well, if Ifrit's right and he got the power of cop, how do we know he wasn't made to be insane/paranoid? But at the same time, while the color is insignificant, how do we know Chocobo is telling the truth about the deletion of the PM? And well, Shiva hasn't even popped in to say a word about the fact that she was supposedly targeted and didn't die.
So many unanswered questions!
Chocobo, who do you plan to target tonight, and why?
Shiva, what do you have to say about Chocobo's claim?
:holmes:
Huh, I'm targeted by a Vigilante and we end up with one death, which is not me? Because if you killed me, who killed [M] Alexander? We should be seeing two deaths unless a doctor protected someone else too? [M] Chocobo your claim's pretty shaky. :(
Hey Choc, why would you delete your role pm in the first place?
I had a good lunch and watched TV. :(
You do know we're playing mafia right? So there's this group, called the mafia, who kills people at night...Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] Shiva
Do you know something we don't? Why should there be two kills?Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] Shiva
And why didn't you die :colbert:
Mafia and Vigilante, where's your math coming from?
Oh, I see. You're saying you think the doctor protected you. But that doesn't make much sense because unless I'm remembering wrong, you weren't really a big deal day 1. *reads back just in case*
My math is coming from my arse, quite clearly :p
Shiva, how do you explain why you didn't die?
I'd love to throw in a roleclaim now, but it's a little early in the day for this.
Wow, a lot turned up. Seems that things are becoming pretty interesting.
I don't buy this. You voted for Valefor and Cactuar because you found them the most suspicious so it would have made sense for you to go after Valefor. This is the first time you said you thought Shiva was fishy in this thread. I'm going to check over this thread again to make sure of that.Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] Chocobo
##Vote: Chocobo
If Chocobo comes up guilty as Ifrit claims he is, that doesn't mean Ifrit should be off the hook. Ifrit could be trying to cover their behind as someone said.
Well, I deleted all of my pms except my Night 1 action(I had a small conversation with Rydia), and my Role PM was in those I deleted.
I don't know why Shiva didn't die, but I did choose to kill her.
Carbuncle, I was never really suspicious of Valefor. I have already said this. It was just a pure guess/placeholder.
I was thinking of killing Bahamut, but then I wasn't really sure about him. He did seem suspicious, but not really like a mafia member. I looked over the thread in the night to see if I could find anyone, and I settled on Shiva, because I really wasn't too sure.
Chocobo, assuming your vote won't be needed to save your ass, who would you vote for?
I'm not sure. To contradict what I had just said, it may be Bahamut. I probably won't vote for Shiva, however.Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] Valefor
I call BS. Doomtrain lives another day.
##Unvote: Doomtrain
##Vote: Chocobo.
Why not? If you were suspicious of her enough to kill her before, what changed?
Also you have to think about this psychiatrist. A Vigiliante and a serial Killer is too much, and the presence of a cult, vigilante and Mafia is also overbearing for a medium sized game.
Sorry, my mom and dad have been on all day long. Can I get a rundown of events? I'm too lazy to look through the thread. >.<
I'll give you that. Overeager Vig seems like a role for a 20+ person game. Then again, this game was designed to have that many people but not enough showed up.
Well, I didn't want to say this, but I think she is the doctor, because most doctors protect themselves night 1, and the kill didn't go through.
I didn't want to say that, but I know that if I said "I don't want to say", I'd be speed lynched, or something.
I thought we were talking a psychologist earlier.
Well.Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] Doomtrain
The day begins with Titan saying that he is not 100% the psychiatrist, which is followed by some friction between me and a few players. After being backed into a bit of a corner, I compile some evidence against you and you receive three votes. It looks like you're favorite to be lynched, but Ifrit claims he investigated Chocobo and Chocobo is guilty. Chocobo claims he is an overeager vigilante.
Basically a variety of reasons has lead to disbelief over Chocobo's roleclaim and he is on the highway to the gallows.
Useless stuff went on, Ifrit investigated me last night and got guilty, people are voting for me now, I'm trying to explain(even though I'm not fully sure myself) how it all happened.Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] Doomtrain
The roles would have been altered as such if that was the case. I have hosted games before and you simply have to even it out according to the numbers. It makes all the difference.Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] Valefor
Ramuh, why are you saying psychiatrist instead of psychologist? Haven't the Cheater specifically said Psychologist?
Typing error is all.
Why is [M] Titan so certain of his role?
Votecount
Leviathan (0) -Valefor
Anima (1) -Ramuh, Bahamut
Bahamut (2) - Phoenix, Leviathan
Ramuh (1) - Diablos
Doomtrain (2) -Ramuh, Titan,Anima, Anima
Valefor (1) - Odin
Chocobo (4) - Ifrit, Valefor, Carbuncle, Ramuh
Not voting: Chocobo, Siren, Shiva, Doomtrain
Please let me know if you see a correction.
You mean that thing you are? :pQuote:
Originally Posted by [M] Titan
Come on you lazy bums, go ahead and vote!
Vote for me if you want! Or even a goat!
(Are there any goat summons in the game?
If not, then that is pretty lame)
Something doesn't sit right with this, but I can't figure out what it is. Where is tidusluvr when you need him.
Shoat the goat?
I wish Shoat was here because then
I could rhyme it with "vote", again and again!
I'm so confused right now. It looks like i'm not the only one either.
Okay, In order to fully comprehend this, I'm gonna have to write it all down. I'll get back to you all when I can :eep:
Okay this post WAS confusing me but now I get what Shiva's trying to say here, and I think she has a good point.Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] Shiva
##Unvote: Bahamut
##Vote: Chocobo
Shiva's point: If Chocobo tried to kill her, why isn't she dead?
Chocobo said it himself when he said doctors tend to protect themselves night one. Sounds to me like Shiva doesn't understand why she didn't die if she was supposedly targeted. Thus, we can conclude that unless she really IS the doctor and is trying really hard to keep it undercover, Chocobo is lying.
I think Chocobo has hit the point of no return. :(
Also, once again Doomtrain pops up to ask what's going on before disappearing again. Got my eye on that sucka'.
For that we would need more votes; three.
And let's not do that, time is mon-eeee!
Alright, I give. You all win. I'm actually the Serial Killer. I did actually target Shiva last night, however, and that's why I chose to say I was a vig, so I could say that and hopefully Shiva would be all "Oh yeah, I actually protected myself", and people would be all "Oh, that means he's confirmed townie, even though he was guilty"
This is bull...
You're just too obtuse for this game :(
A Mafia and a serial killer would be too much I think for only 15 players. Looks like we're dealing with a cult. It's been fun Chocobo. :cool:
Then explain Alexander dying
Shiva could be alive because she was protected by a doctor or roleblocker as someone said. She could be that doctor or roleblocker. I don't think we should throw out all possibilities.
If there's a cop, perhaps they should investigate her? Just in case :D
Nevermind. Nice try Chocobo!
Sorry chocobo, I feel your pain
You can't help it, you're real insane
But you can do one last job!
Care to help us find the mob?
Place a vote on who you think is bad
And that will make me really glad!
Target switching roles maybe? I just got a strong feeling about a cult. :/Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] Chocobo
No, do not out the cop.Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] Leviathan
I'm not saying the cop should out themselves. Just suggesting that they investigate Shiva to see what she flips.
Well Ifrit, if Shiva is not a doctor and there is not a cult, I would say she is pretty suspicious. Not for what happened at night, but for the reasons I tryed to kill her. I was actually trying to find mafia as a serial killer, not just look for random kills.
I would much rather the cop investigate [M] Ramuh 'cause he was, what, number four for [M] Chocobo before he outed himself, which really set the fatty up for Likeliest to be Lynched, and sure enough [M] Leviathan voted for chubster and our Serial Killer confessed. Maybe it's a lot to ask for, aiming a cop away from me, but odds say there's a mafia member in those first four votes for [M] Chocobo. :) Oh, and we totally gotta swing the fatty, right? I'll withhold my vote for now just so this ain't a railroading.
I'd be perfectly happy for a cop to investigate me.
By the by, as long as we know who the Serial Killer is, is it worth keeping them around if they go off really suspicious suspects? Just an idea I've got, not something I'm actually trying to sell, just how viable is this? [M] Chocobo cannot win unless he is in the last standings, so can we not use him for a short while, or is that going to help the mafia?
Shiva doesn't want to be investigated so she says go for [M] Ramuh instead. VERY FISHY
I'm not gonna let you use me, because I know I wouldn't win. I would kill myself. It's better to just kill me now.Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] Shiva
No, we should not keep the SK around! We have to vote off someone, we have a prime scum subject, so we should vote them off. Otherwise who would we vote off, Shiva?
We don't even know for certain that Chocobo is the serial killer just yet. I'm not so sure I believe it yet, anyhow. What I don't get is how you didn't die if he targeted you, unless the doctor really did forgo the usual "protect myself night 1 just in case" and protected you. And then of course there's the idea of a roleblocker. But why would they block Chocobo?
and why would you be protected?
Godfathers are immune to night kills, and they also appear innocent upon investigation.
Godfathers are not always immune.
Exactly what I was thinking.Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] Carbuncle
Go ahead and investigate, whatever. And I'd really hate to waste the time to lynch [M] Chocobo is all, if he would just do us the favor of killing himself, but I do not really have a better suggestion than a fact. Hard to dispute that. :(
If I stay alive tonight, I will kill.
Shiva, who do you suspect, besides Chocobo (whose feathers are already cooked it seems)? You haven't voted or really done much.
I suspect everyone, of course. :p Well, maybe not [M] Titan if he is supposed to be the Psychologist. ...Aren't Psychologists supposed to fix Serial Killers?
No. Psychologists will either be a cop that gets a sane/insane reading on the person they choose, or maybe finds Cult Members.
As for being after him on Day 1, that was someone else playing this account. It's impossible to know for sure what another person is thinking so I can't account for "my" actions on Day 1.Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] Valefor
There's a name for the role that gets a "random" action per night but I don't remember what it is. I'm pretty sure it's in the flash thing but I'm not entirely sure. Schizo, maybe? But I think that one doesn't know what it's going to do to the target. I'll look through after I post. Personally, I think Ifrit is the role he claims.
Fair enough, Rydia did say you were replaced so we can't really question your Day 1 actions anymore.
I really do like the idea of being nice and safe by lynching you, but what benefits the town at this point also benefits the mafia. And we're down two townies already, and while we're busy stringing up [M] Chocobo, we're also removing a gun which might end up pointed at a mafia. He might kill a townie tonight if he lives, yeah, but he also might get a mafia. Earlier, he promised to kill himself rather than be used, but then later says he will kill again tonight if left alive. Sounds like a killer to me and that's useful (but risky).Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] Chocobo
Anyways, [M] Ifrit, [M] Carbuncle, [M] Valefor, and [M] Ramuh were the first four to vote for [M] Chocobo before [M] Leviathan crushed him and he 'fessed up. At least one of them is scum, I'm willing to commit to that. Specifically, I can't say. Those are my only worthwhile suspicions. The [M] Bahamut and [M] Ifrit confrontation would have been nice to solve, but theories surrounding it seem reasonable enough, especially with the Sudden Death match.
As for me, I can't defend myself without someone roleclaiming and I'm not willing to go there yet. Investigate me if you want, copper, but I'm a fan of you not revealing yourself. Did a doctor protect me last night? What is my own role? I don't find any of this useful without riling up mobsters.
[M] Valefor, that is by far your worst post yet. :( [M] Bahamut's goal is still the same, no matter who plays him. While you can't question #2 about what #1 was thinking, you can look at both #2's and #1's actions and see what two people might've been trying to keep.
That's an interesting theory if Choc does in fact turn out to be the SK. Mafia would be happy to vote for him as it would help their cause while appearing to be town aligned.
Looking through the flash, Ifrit's role isn't spelled out exactly but there are multiple roles that allow different night actions on different nights.
Ifrit, do you have control over what action you take during the night?
Ah, but I wasn't thinking that at all. :p Scum like to gang up on someone not their own when they can, right? And if it's before the Serial Killer revelation, of course the only motivation is a death. Anyone after that might just do it to be good and safe, so they're less suspicious.
Time to look at [M] Cactuar's votes and see who matches up. :)
What I mean is, we can't ask him why he said specific things or why he went after Ifrit. Obviously the character's goal doesn't change.Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] Shiva
In response to [M] Valefor, oops, I type slowly. :(
On that note, a group of people lynching a Serial Killer doesn't help separate Town from Mafia. It does, however, eliminate a Town threat which should be the Town's main objective, in my opinion. Claiming that you're not in league with the Town is a surefire deathwish. Therefore, Chocobo should die sooner than later.Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] Valefor
It would be foolish for mafia to gang up on someone this early in the game. It would stick out when we look at vote histories on later days.Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] Shiva
I receive a PM that says "Tonight you are a (FISH)"Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] Bahamut
And then I can choose who will sample my dish.
Also, my role will not be on that site.
Just like the Cheater, who was killed last night.
You're probably right, especially for the first day, because if two if not all three were town, then there would have been little point in being choosy. ...But hanging [M] Cactuar out of all of them is unlucky, since we were all looking for a showdown between the others.Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] Valefor
Rydia, am I right? Is there 15 mins 'til doom?
We'll find out then if there's a killer in the room!
Is it just me, or does Shiva's post just not make any sense sometimes?
I think we still have 2 hours, Ifrit. 11 PM EST should be the deadline.
So, who else has something interesting to say? And who's going to cower in the shadows like the fiends they are? :redface:Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] Rydia
*cowers*Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] BahamutSo, who else has something interesting to say? And who's going to cower in the shadows like the fiends they are? :redface:Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] Rydia
You already said you were scum! You don't count.
*daykills you*Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] Bahamut
Yeah, I can do that because I pwn.
*Can't actually do that*
Ugh, looking at my options for other possible lynchees, I've got [M] Bahamut and [M] Doomtrain with 2 votes against them each, and I need to get 3 more votes on either of them if I want to a chance at keeping the Serial Killer alive. Is either one of these acceptable replacements for you, [M] Chocobo?
I'm personally willing to give the dragon and fire demon duel another try, and not terribly upset about giving up someone who is mostly inactive and asks for updates only.
Shiva, I don't understand your reasoning for keeping a Serial Killer alive. Can you explain how that would be beneficial to the town, please?
He'll kill people, possibly mafia. :p
##vote: Chocobo
But probably not.Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] Shiva
##vote:Chocobo
I don't like the way this is going
I think this speed lynch needs slowing
Still think 'bo is scum, but I'll take the hit:
##unvote ##vote: Ifrit
I'd like to hear more from the Goddess of Ice
what on earth makes her think 'bo will play nice?
while I don't like speed lynches, I can not think of anyone else to vote for.
Neither can I, that's why I voted for me :D
But Shiva seems to be out of her tree.
Wanting to enlist a killer? What's that all about?
Before Day 2 is done, I want to dispell my doubt.
I would look at the inactives, like Anima, as someone to point a finger at. Anima made a hasty vote for Doomtrain saying he was 'under too much pressure'. What pressure? At the time I thought he was working with Choc but for now it appears Choc is working alone.
Also I love how you guys consider voting on hour 23 of 24 to be speed lynching. :p And by love I mean hate.
There is nothing more to explain
I want a murderer simple and plain
It's an iffy gun but I want a threat
To take on mafia who are deep set
Hidden in our midsts and won't go
We're being killed inside by hidden foe
He's dangerous that's definitely sure
But risk and all I'd like a cure
It doesn't matter no sir he doesn't want to play
It's a shame but he'd rather be lynched in day
Not a friend not accommodating in the least
We'll hang him and leave kind words to a priest
I don't like being down in numbers against scum
Even if he wasn't ours he wasn't with those bums
There's a facebook group for that!Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] Valefor
We have about 50 minutes left total. I think now would be a good time for the inactives to become actives (unless of course they can't, considering the time.)
Really hope no one saw me post with me real account there! If you did, don't be a meanie and ruin all the fun! ~50 minutes left.
Why would Chocobo do as we say?
The chance to live another day?
There's no point in playing if he's already lost
I think leaving him alive would have a deadly cost
He could do whatever he wanted, he knows he's already dead
I don't know about you, but I don't want a bullet to the head!
And yes, he could potentially kill the mob
But the lynch is more suited to that job.
If we have someone who we think is bad
Lynch them, and there's vote analysis to be had!
Argh, lost my post. Here it goes again:
Siren, you seemed to vote for Chocobo quickly as he neared a majority vote. To me, it looked horrible, not to mention that the only reason you gave after the fact was that you just didn't know who else to pick. Why Chocobo?
I never post with my real account. ;)
-The other Rydia
[QUOTE='[M] Odin;2783844']Indeed activity was promised, so here it is.
Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] Valefor
32 minutes before sundown.
If Chocobo is the Serial Killer, then he cannot live. He's already said that if he lives, he will kill. Lynching him is not a waste as he poses a very real threat to every town member. I would much rather have one townie death every night than potentially two - we don't have the numbers to sustain that many losses.
Odin you should probably fix that post or repost it.
This's silly. Why not vote for [M] Chocobo? First, Serial Killer, second, everyone's already voted for him. Voting for anyone else can get you questioned and why not string up a known danger?Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] Bahamut
Didn't you already post that, Odin? I'm confused. Anyway, addressing the question about why the "first" Bahamut let Sudden Death continue... I can't say why because I'm not the same person. I have a feeling that Ifrit is Town aligned, though, so I'm glad the "first" Bahamut played it that way. And we now know that Cactuar was Town aligned, so it would have made me look bad if "I" would have voted for them. :p
Current Vote Count
Anima - 1
Bahamut - 1
Chocobo - 6
Doomtrain - 2
Ifrit - 1
Ramuh - 1
Valefor - 1
It looks as if Day 2 is coming to a close without anything else happening. I might as well come out with my role now before something strange happens and people get confused.
I am a Death Miller. I'll come up as a baddy if investigated and even if I die, I'll still be revealed as a baddy. What a horrible lot! But hear this: I suggest that no Town aligned roles with night activities target me as it would only lead to confusion and cause unwanted hysteria for the Town. If a Cop targets me, they'll get scum. How does that help the Town? Technically, I could be saved if a Doctor protects me and someone tries to kill me but I'd rather go down during the night if possible to show that a "Mafia Goon" died in the night. I highly doubt that there are two rival Mafias with only so few players and if Chocobo is a Serial Killer and we oust him, then I doubt it would be very possible to kill a baddy at night.
Think this over during the night, please. :choc2:
That's a lot to toss out without asking, kind of reaching there, huh? If he does not die tonight, he looks pretty good lynching material tomorrow. I know, cruel words. :(
What a convienent claim. We really have no way to verify it even if you die! Can anyone come up with a plan to verify Bahamut's claim? I sure can't.
Bahamut's claim has just caused me some fear.
I'd like a Doc to consider protecting my rear.
Bahamut, your claim is extremely strange!
Tonight, everything is going to change.
I'm not reaching at all, Shiva. I'd rather it be known now than at the end of the game. The game of Mafia isn't about trust. I'm giving you information and you should think for yourself whether I'm lying or not.
There is no way to verify that I'm a Death Miller until the end of the game that I can think of, either! That's why this role is such a royal pain, obviously.
If I die by lynching and the Town thinks that they've killed a Mafia member, then the Town will really kick themselves in the end if we lose. You can't trust me, you just have to use the information I post.
I can't either, but I can say that Death Miller role is beneficial to the mafia exclusively (unless you count the fact that the mods get a good chuckle out of confusing us as a benefit :()
Oh yes, very confusing. My logic here is that if the Town is tipped off that I am what I am before I die, it would have been so much better than if it happened and I didn't explain my piece.
I was in no trouble at all as far as votes. I'm claiming so the Town might have some chance to narrow down the possibilities of everyone else.
Everybody, stop posting, the day is ovah!
The town hurried around Chocobo with pitchforks and sticks. Frantically Chocobo tried to roll away from the incoming danger, but he was just far too large to move. Chocobo then grabbed at his chest, he went into cardiac arrest and died!
Chocobo was a Serial Killer!
PM your night actions to me!
After the death of Chocobo, Slyph decided that since she was not participating in this game, she was going to have a cup of Tea. So she did. then she went to sleep and had possibly suggestive and vivid dreams about Yang.
Nobody died, day 3 begins now, you have 30 hours. (Extra time because night actions were sent in timely like good players send them :)) Majority lynch is 8 votes.
*note that Sylph is a flavor character so you can't vote for her. Let her drink her tea in peace.
What type did see drink?:eek:
This furthers my theory that chocobo was target switched and there is a cult. Anyway, I am very confused about Bahamut's role and I'm not sure I entirely believe him. For someone who was acting suspicious for the duration of day 1 to come out and say that he is a death miller seems very off to me.
I'm not sure I believe the claim either.
What is it about the lack of night death that makes you think there's a cult? Just out of curiosity.
Also can someone explain this target switch thing to me? I don't get it.
I'm asking about the cult thing because I just assume no death means that the mafia target was protected during the night via doctor.
I think that the serial killer is the only role who can kill, and a bus driver or a similar role messed with him night 1 to make him kill alexander instead. The cult would be growing every night but not killing, because they recruit.
Ah, okay, I can understand that theory.
Interesting theory Ramuh. So, you really think isn't any mafia?
While I can understand his theory, I'm not ruling other possibilities out.
I don't like it either as it's impossible to tell if he's telling the truth, unless you are mafia.Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] Ramuh
That role frustrates me. There's absolutely no solution for it. About the only way we would know anyhing is if we had a watcher or a tracker to follow him through the night to see what he does. But even that might not be enough. Ugh i just can't see any loopholes...IF he's even telling the truth about his role. :shifty:
I personally not only find that role iffy, but Shiva's campaign for us to keep the serial killer around.
As for Titan's possible role of Psychologist...I think it's plausible, but I'm not ready to believe it just yet because we don't even know for certain if a cult exists or not just yet. The fact that he's being ambiguous about it doesn't help, but I think it's for the sake of self-preservation.
Odin and Doomtrain are still heavily inactive for the most part, and that troubles me. It's enough to make me believe there could be a mafia, even if only a three-person group. Which would mean there's a third. if I'm right.
Right now I'm all for getting rid of her or Bahamut. This might change when we hear more from them.Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] Leviathan
My suspect list.
Highest.
Shiva - Consistently fishy. There's always something up with Shiva (imo) which just doesn't sit comfortably with me. That whole thing with keep the serial killer alive business was just nonsensical, but I think Shiva knows how to play.
Bahamut - Like Shiva, I can't feel at ease with Bahamut. Fishy behavior on day 1, and then comes out claiming he is a death miller before the end of day 2. He was obviously worried about something, and I feel that he realised he wasn't in the best of graces so he pulled that roleclaim out to avoid a similar fate to Chocobo's. His petty reasoning on day 1 can be ignored because he was replaced.
High
Doomtrain - I've pulled the evidence out already, but Doomtrain still refuses to change his habits. This makes me confused because surely his teammates would have helped him or told him to snap out of it by now. Twice though he has asked what is going on and then left without a trace. If I had a kill right now, it would be Doomtrain, but like I said, the evidence used against him can also be used for him.
Anima - My favorite summon of the series has disappointing me. Inactivity and a bandwagon vote from nowhere. He symbolises everything suspicious about the inactive player, yet no substantial evidence can be extracted yet.
Medium
Odin - Maybe a couple of large-ish posts, but nothing else. Odin worries me.
Diablos - Similar to Odin. Did come out to challenge me but has yet to resurface.
Siren - The only thing that has struck me as odd is her sudden vote on Chocobo which edges the town towards a speed lynch. Apart from that boo-boo which will stick for a little while, Siren strikes me as the first player on my list I see more town aligned.
Low
Carbuncle - Has participated well while remaining useful and non-scummy.
Leviathan - Leviathan has more dirt against him than some others in this section, but I find him innocent for the time being. Nothing he has said has struck me as scummy. I will read over his posts some more though.
Phoenix - A can't help but shake this weird vibe that Leviathan and Phoenix work in tandem sometimes. Apart from that Phoenix is innocent to me on the most part.
Valefor - I need to read Valefor's posts, but again I see little wrong with him.
Townie
Ifrit - Some will argue this, but his actions have, to me, proven his alignment. It was because of him we lynched the serial killer, which basically rocks.
Ramuh - GO ME.
D'ARRRRRRRRRRRRR!
Ahoy there, landlubbers! I be Cap'n Ifrit and ye all be welcome aboard me ship, the Spirit o' Fire! We be goin' treasure hunting for that most dangerous treasure o' all: SCURVY MAFIA DOGS! ARRRRRR!
D'arr, last night I be given Vigilante powers, and I tried to keelhaul that lily-livered "Death Miller" Bahamut! D'arrr, I was either roleblocked or someone protected me target. Which of ye bilge rats would do such a thing? Y'arrrr!
I think ye be postin' in the wrong thread, Timekeeper lad.
Like I said before, comparing Bahamut's account's tactics on Day 1 to the rest of the Days tells you nothing. I'm a different person. But how do you find my actions on Day 1 suspicious, particularly?Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] Ramuh
Frustrates me, too. The Watcher/Tracker thing actually seemed like a good idea to me for a second, though. Then I figured hypothetically that if I was Mafia, I could work it out with the rest of the group to where I didn't take actions at night (if possible). But why in the world would I limit my team like that if I was part of a group?!Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] Leviathan
That was super bizarre, I agree. I'd like to hear from Shiva A LOT today. The more a player posts, the more likely they are to slip up on something. If she's scummy, then she'll send that vibe sooner or later.Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] Leviathan
Why are you all for getting rid of me? I'd like to hear your reasoning behind it because if I die by lynching, then no one will ever believe me until the game is over.Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] Siren
You're right about me being worried. I was worried I would die last night after being somewhat in the limelight the past two days. If I would have died without claiming that I was a Death Miller, the Town could have started linking my posts the way it's always done later to logically fish the "other" Mafia members. I know it's confusing enough now but imagine the realization at the end of the game if I would have died and never given this information.Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] Ramuh
I've been thinking from the other side, also. Some people seem to think that a Cult is in this game. Perhaps people may think that if there's a Cult, I could be the Cult Leader and my claim could be a ploy to keep people from lynching/targeting me. In that case, a Tracker would come in handy for following my any actions I take at night. But I still stand by my statement that any Town roles that target me are most likely wasting their time. Cops would find me guilty when I'm actually Town aligned and Doctors would only be saving me from proving that a "Mafia Goon" was killed at night.
Ah... So, Ifrit claims that he tried to kill me last night! Interesting... Someone didn't listen to me!
But whatever happened last night, let's rejoice that we still have the same number of Town players as yesterday! :)
One example is that he voted Ifrit just because he thought he was kinda annoying. Many have said they thought Bahamut was suspicious day 1.
I'd like to hear from them today why they thought that, then.
Ifrit, why did you try to kill me? Explain, please.
I tried to send ye to Davy Jones's locker because ye be nothin' but a son o' a syphillis wench, Bahamut. That's all there be to it!
I told Town roles not to target me. Why didn't you listen?
Arrr, ye think I be takin' orders from the likes of ye? I'd sooner be swabbin' the decks!
If you're forced to speak like a pirate, you should still be able to answer my questions. :)
I only answer questions from me crew. Ye can be first mate if ye'd like. We be dividin' the plunder at the end of every day after another pilferin' wretch be hung from the yard arm.
Is there anyone else here right now that can contribute? I'd like to hear from Leviathan, Ramuh, Shiva, Siren, and Titan.
Avast! Is me word not good enough for ye, Bahamut? Thinkin' o' conductin' a mutiny, are ye?!
##vote: Bahamut
I will see to it that ye walk the plank personally. Aye, it is more than a suckling infant than ye truly deserves.
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Originally Posted by [M] Bahamut
Ifrit is almost confirmed town. I know these were the statements of the previous Bahamut player, but nonetheless he basically said "If Ifrit is town, lynch me."Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] BahamutQuote:
Originally Posted by [M] Chocobo
These are highly synonymous. I just answered your questions. He has a mask behind which he can easily and reasonably hide and claim town.Quote:
Why do you find him to be acting suspicious then? Just because it is possible that he is scum? It is possible that I am scum too, and I'm even defending Ifrit. Why don't you vote for me? How is me acting the way I do to show I am town any different from Ifrit's?
Also, I say we do it the other way around. Let's lynch Ifrit first, and if he flips town then I'll take the knot next, whether I like it or not. If he flips Mafia, then I'm off the hook. Whichever way you decide, him or me first, it'll work out the same way.
Of course, it begs the question. Why did the previous Bahamut attack ifrit so much? Ifrit was not the most suspicious player one day one, yet Bahamut was dead set on lynching him. A Mafia would be scared of Ifrit because of his role being town-aligned. (most likely)
Also I doubt a doctor would protect a death miller when there are other more important roles in play. I believe the reason you didn't die Bahamut was not the doing of the doctor. This plus previous evidence leads me to the conclusion of:
##Vote: Bahamut
By town aligned (most likely) I meant a role which would have suited a townie more. Most people recognized that fact already, before Ifrit claimed.
The 6 extra hours are up, you all have about 1 day (24hrs.) remaining. No rush yet. :)
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Originally Posted by [M] RamuhQuote:
Originally Posted by [M] Bahamut
Ifrit is almost confirmed town. I know these were the statements of the previous Bahamut player, but nonetheless he basically said "If Ifrit is town, lynch me."Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] BahamutQuote:
Originally Posted by [M] Chocobo
Let's lynch Ifrit first, and if he flips town then I'll take the knot next, whether I like it or not.Quote:
Why do you find him to be acting suspicious then? Just because it is possible that he is scum? It is possible that I am scum too, and I'm even defending Ifrit. Why don't you vote for me? How is me acting the way I do to show I am town any different from Ifrit's?
As for why the previous Bahamut went after Ifrit, I can't say. Not to mention that saying, "If X is scum, then kill Y," that early in the game is just begging for trouble. If my role was a baddy's role, then what in the world would I have to gain from saying those things? I (the replacement) didn't have a bad feeling about Ifrit until today just now, actually.Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] Ramuh
I say this every stinking game so, "Nothing is known for sure until a player dies." And in my case, that doesn't even apply. But I'm telling you all very plainly that if I'm lynched, then it's going to cause chaos for the Town. On the same note, Ramuh, you can't know for sure that Ifrit is "almost confirmed town" until his death.
And I don't believe Ifrit has actually claimed a specific role yet. We already know his limitations but he hasn't given us the name of his role. So no, he has not claimed yet. (Unless Melodramatic Townie is a real role!)
IF Ifrit is Town aligned and he only had the one shot to kill me and he was stopped from doing it, that blows.
IF I die by lynching and the Town sees that I'm revealed a "Mafia Goon", then it helps no one but the baddies.
IF I die at night, it shows that there is a player or faction with the ability to kill a "Mafia Goon" and if Ifrit's was the only Town aligned ability of that nature, then it'd be logical to assume that I'm telling the truth to you now.
IF that happens and a Town player killed me, then shame on you; you will have lost a Town player.
Again, if Town aligned players target me at night, then they are wasting their time.
http://i799.photobucket.com/albums/y.../capnifrit.jpgQuote:
Originally Posted by Bahamut
I love this game. :lol:
I'm trying to be more active... I just super suck at this game while you all are super awesome at this... =/
And plus, sorry that I don't spend all day on the computer..:mad: I do have a life, you know.
You guys also post a lot in just a couple of hours... T_T
Hey everyone. Have I missed anything important while I was gone? Anyone care to fill me in?
I don't know what to think of Bahamut's Death Miller claim. I wanted to believe him, because I didn't really suspect him up until that point. However, the fact that he did not get killed by Ifrit means that he had some sort of protection (if we believe Ifrit, which I have no reason not to at this point).
Did Bahamut get protected? I doubt Death Miller has any sort of night kill immuneness. Why would someone protect him? In the past, we've only had Mafia Godfather be night kill immune but claiming Death Miller would be stupid for a godfather because they come up innocent upon investigation. There are other possibilities such as Ifrit being rollblocked, so it's hard to come to conclusions.
@Bahamut: I actually find Ifrit's role to be quite believable. And I totally love that macro :D
Bahamut, I'm sure you're a nice guy and all, and Ima letcha finish, but...
.....
......IFRIT HAD THE BEST EOFF MAFIA ROLE OF ALL TIME!!!
However, I'm waiting to hear from the inactives and Shiva before making a vote. I'd like to see how the day plays out before deciding anything.
Shiver me timbers! A giant sea worm! Arrr, I must be loaded to the gunwhales to be seein' such a rare beast.
Y'arrrr, who will be joinin' me in huntin' this creature?
Leviathan, why would you believe Ifrit and not me?
Titan, in the time it takes someone to brief you on what's happening, you could have gone back and read the posts that have been written since you left. Play catch up and make your own decisions, please.
Anima, if you have a life, why'd you sign up to play? :)
Still need some answers from Shiva and I'm waiting on Siren to poke her head in here again.
Ifrit, I thought you were currently hunting me. :aimkiss:
Arrr, yer mother is a pox-ridden sow, Bahamut!
Valefor, what could be going through a Doctor's mind to make them protect me? I highly doubt I was protected last night.
Y'arrr, we should be findin' this mutinous doctor and clapping 'em in irons. Own up, so that we can be lynchin' ye after we be done with this curr Bahamut!
Sorry, I meant to add a paragraph to the end of that but I got sidetracked. No, I don't think you were protected. There are many resons why a person wouldn't ket killed, such as the presense of roleblockers or bus drivers. I think in your case, doctor protection is unlikely because who would protect a person who claimed Death Miller?
I question Shvia's actions at the end of the day when she wanted us to keep the SK around. That just doesn't make sense, though I don't know why a mafia would want to do that either. Could be a third party role with possible night kill immunity, which would explain why Chocobo couldn't kill her. She also hasn't really contributed much in terms of discussion, being very confusing at times.
I agree that I probably didn't have Doctor protection last night.
If Ifrit was roleblocked and he's Town aligned, then most likely we would have a Prostitute on our hands. If Ifrit is lying and only has specific night actions, then it's possible he's a Mafia Cop, thereby knowing who is "guilty" and also being able to kill at night. However, I sort of doubt that Ifrit would pull attention to himself and then try to kill on a night that he's probable to attract roleblocking players' night actions.
Ifrit really isn't that high up on my threats but I'm just throwing around possibilities.
Until Siren comes back, this is for her.
## Vote: Siren
Bahamut: I believe Ifrit over you because of the role you claimed. As I mentioned, that role in itself is annoying. However, that role is also an excellent scapegoat for someone who is afraid of being investigated by the cop. Not useful for a Godfather in the least, as they show up as innocent upon investigation, but maybe for a goon.
Not to mention the fact that he was the one that found our serial killer :greenie:
Why did you vote for Siren, Bahamut?
I would like to know that one too.
Here's the final votecount from Day 2 since Rydia didn't post it:
Leviathan (0) -Valefor
Anima (1) -Ramuh, Bahamut
Bahamut (1) - Phoenix,Leviathan
Ramuh (1) - Diablos
Doomtrain (2) -Ramuh, Titan,Anima, Anima
Valefor (1) - Odin
Chocobo (6) -Ifrit, Valefor, Carbuncle, Ramuh, Leviathan, Chocobo, Siren
Ifrit (1): Ifrit
Not voting: Shiva, Doomtrain
Please let me know if you see a correction.
so two of our most inactive players didn't vote, one voted for one of the more active players (ramuh), and the other one voted for an equally inactive player.
Y'arrrr! Maybe that buxom wench Siren be his doctor accomplice and he be tryin' to throw us off the scent! Ye think me a mere cabin boy, Bahamut? Ye think me a sprog? Capn Ifrit be wise to ye and ye plans to send us all to Fiddlers Green!
I don't know if what I said is actually helpful but meh :p
@Bahamut: so now you believe we have a mafia on our hands as well?
Ok, the only thing keeping me from voting Shiva right now is that she didn't die on night 1, indicating that she might be a doctor. Otherwise, I haven't seen anything in her posts that was very helpful. She didn't vote yesterdy, and spent a lot of time trying to convince us that keeping the SK around was a good idea. Like I said before, not sure why a mafia would want to do that but town most certainly wouldn't want to do that. Even while doing that she didn't give us a better option. Someone had to be lynched. If not Choc, who? Why did she focus so much on saving the SK instead of trying to find the other scumbags? As for the doc angle, there are so many other possibilities, many of which have been touched on. I just can't make that assumption and ignore the rest of her behavior.
##Vote: Shiva
Choboco would have been lynched anyway as me and a few other summons already found him fishy. Ifrit saw this and used this as an opportunity to claim Choboco as guilty which turned out to be true. Don't assume that he's innocent for this reason. He could be scum that knew Choboco wasn't one of them. I'm half and half on Ifrit. I don't think he is the most suspicious of the people, but I'm still a little iffy about him.Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] Ramuh
First scum thing she said. "Oh please please don't investigate me copper! Please please go after someone else because I'd come up as guilty!"Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] Shiva
Second scum thing she said. "Oh please please don't lynch the serial killer! Please please keep him alive so you won't see that he's probably telling the truth about me and he can kill of some townies!"Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] ShivaI really do like the idea of being nice and safe by lynching you, but what benefits the town at this point also benefits the mafia. And we're down two townies already, and while we're busy stringing up [M] Chocobo, we're also removing a gun which might end up pointed at a mafia. He might kill a townie tonight if he lives, yeah, but he also might get a mafia. Earlier, he promised to kill himself rather than be used, but then later says he will kill again tonight if left alive. Sounds like a killer to me and that's useful (but risky).Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] Chocobo
Third scum thing she said. "And now I'm going to point out people who are pro-town so you can kill them instead of a serial killer!"Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] Shiva
What could she mean by this?Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] Shiva
Shiva, you have some explaining to do. And I just thought of something really amusing. Siren and Carbuncle. Geddit? Hehehe!
Hi guys. Sorry >.< My parents have been hogging the computer all day again.
Could someone tell me what's going on?
Third. freaking. time.
##Unvote: Bahamut
##Vote: Doomtrain
I am also concerened with the barely active people as they haven't helped much either:
Anima - hasty voting patterns
Doomtrain - posts every once and a while to ask what's going on, then disappears
Diablos - Really flying under the radar, I had actually forgot he was in this game until I did my little vote tally :p
Phoenix - a little more active on day 2 but is not really getting into the action
Odin - only one post! (the second one looked like it was started and posted before finished so I'm not counting it) Odin actually has more posts in the sign up thread than the game thread!
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All separate days I think.
Haha Doom does his typical post even as I type up my post. wtf man?
I'm taking that mofo down.
Sorry about the previous post, I didn't realize until it was too late I didn't actually write everything in it. :p
I just highlighted the part of the original post that had you saying you believed Ifrit town, as well as finding these quotes,
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Originally Posted by [M] Valefor
From as early as page 3, you've been rather adamant about two people being innocent. I read back through and realized that, however, I think I mixed up another person for you in regards to the Bahamut thing, and for that I appologize. However, I don't really see any reason you would have been so sure enough about Bahamut and Ifirit being innocent so early.Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] Valefor
As well, I don't suspect Bahamut is lying about the Miller thing, for the same reason I didn't suspect him before. However, I am in question about Ifrit, for the same reasons as Bahamut. The possibility of Mafia Cop being in play. Though if they thought it was a surefire way to get Ifrit in the clear, I don't see any reason he wouldn't draw the attention to himself, given it was likely the attention was going to paint him innocent. I'm just saying to pay very close attention to his posts, not that I"m accusing him yet. I just don't know if I believe him or not. I also find it odd day one and two was rhyming, and on day 3 it's talk like a pirate. Why did it change after only two days, and not one? I don't really recall Ifrit mentioning in the beginning the stipulations changed, only the power itself. Perhaps you could point me to where this is said, or perhaps explain these details now Ifirit?
As of now, however, I don't think I'll comment on the status of whether or not Bahamut is likely to be protected by the doctor.
W'arrr! Surely ye can read the thread for yeself, lad!Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] Doomtrain
Bahamut has been sayin' he be one of the scum, Doomtrain lad. Said he be workin' to kill us all! He be sayin' he has a doctor under his control, y'arrr, and won't be a-revealin' to us who they be!
The above all be totally true true, Pirate's honor.
##Kill: Ifrit
Bye.
1. I agree.Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] Carbuncle
2. I lol'd :exdee:
Doomtrain, seriously. That's the only thing you ever say. Are you a new player by any chance?
...wait wtf just happened?
Capn Ifrit only explains himself to people who be postin' more than once a day, Odin ye scurvy dog. Ye be accusin' me o' mutiny?! I'll see to it that ye are thrown in the hold wi' a wannion!Quote:
Originally Posted by Odin
Allow me to retort:Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] Ramuh
http://i799.photobucket.com/albums/y.../capnifrit.jpg
Ramuh runs up to Doomtrain and hits him with his staff. This does nothing as Ramuh is slightly senile and forgot that hitting a train with a stick does nothing. Carry on with the day.Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] Ramuh
OmgQuote:
Originally Posted by [M] Ramuh
RAMUH FISHY