I'd like to apologise to all those people worldwide who found themselves subjected to watching that match. It was absolutely dreadful.
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I'd like to apologise to all those people worldwide who found themselves subjected to watching that match. It was absolutely dreadful.
Leicester marches on. It's another 1 - 0 victory, but 3 points is 3 points at the end of a tough season. I have my heart in my mouth every weekend when I open up the scores. If Leicester lost a game, and Tottenham won, suddenly everything could be different.
Come on Leicester! Restore my faith in premier league football once again!
Tottenham beating Bournemouth tomorrow is no gimme. I just have a feeling Leicester will have a few bad games. I just hope they've done enough to win it!
Well look whether or not the title can be won, I think English football has had a major wake up call as a result of this season. Leicester as a city has had a real boost from it which is what I have enjoyed the most. There is a statue in the city centre commemorating a League Cup win for christ's sake so I'd love to see what happens if it can be pulled off! Oh, that and the absolutely rapier sharp counter attacking football.
Oh they will, no question. No team, especially one unused to such pressure, can expect to maintain forward momentum. The real question is whether or not Tottenham can capitalise on those stumbles and overtake Leicester.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bubba
Honestly, I think me and a lot of people will be gutted if Leicester don't win the league. They're pretty much assured a top-three finish, but now that they've been top for so long, I for one would be pissed if they came second after all they've been through.
It tells you something that Leicester had like, what, 19 points this time last year.
Spurs aren't the threat, it's Arsenal. No, really. Don't forget the annual February/March collapse is followed by the April and May "our season is over who cares" surge, whereas Pochettino teams tend to burn out around this time of year. Whether or not Arsenal will suddenly have a new collapse in May if it looks like they may win something worthwhile remains untested.
Arsenal are 8 points back, assuming they win their game in hand. That seems large, but honestly this season has been so crazy who knows. If Leicester get any injuries to key players they could collapse, hard. Spurs seem like the strongest threat at this point?
No way will Arsenal win all their remaining games (and even if they somehow did, unlikely Leicester would collapse that badly at this point).The best strategy for Arsenal next season is to hypnotise the players at the start of the season into thinking they have nothing to play for. They only ever start winning when it's too late after all.
If Leicester do go on to win it I think I'll be 40% happy for them, 30% embarrassed that they did what we haven't come close to doing in years, and 30% relieved it wasn't Spurs winning it.
Oh good, looks like we're not the only team who can be total dog turd against Man Utd.
smurf you, you :bou::bou::bou::bou:.Quote:
Originally Posted by charliepanayi
We were awesome today. A rarity, I know but... we were awesome.
The Southampton-Liverpool game was amazing. 0-2 behind, and they still win 3-2. Action packed, very well done.
Yesterday shows that if Martin Skrtel plays against Dortmund, Bubba is going to be made to look really silly with his 13-0 prediction. It'll be 25-0.
I agree. Not often you see such fantastic turnarounds in a match.Quote:
Originally Posted by Aerith's Knight
I'm actually glad that the penalty was a miss. Winning this way is much more rewarding, and without grumbling on the other side. It also shows how much the suspended red card was worth, two goals from Mane.Quote:
Originally Posted by FormalhautI agree. Not often you see such fantastic turnarounds in a match.Quote:
Originally Posted by Aerith's Knight
We need to use some of our limitless funding to find a way to get Vinnie a calf transplant, we are an utter steaming pile without him. Calf Transplant and some kind of immortality as well please.
But yeah not looking forward to PSG, half the first team's legs have exploded. Ibra is going to score more that Dortmund against Liverpool. Midfield is full of tanks as well. Not excited at all.
RIP Johan Cruyff :(
Very sad news :(
I find it funny that they've stripped Adam Johnson of all his England caps, as if anyone cares about how many England caps he has!
What will they do if he wins his appeal? I mean, I'd be surprised if he did but I just like the idea of them awkwardly handing him a box of caps back.
Do they still give out a cap for every game? I thought it was just one on debut these days. Also RIP HJ Cruyff, now all Aerith's Knight is left with is, er, Edgar Davids.
Don't forget the man his parents named him after, Dennis Bergkamp.
Cruijff was a good footballer, great innovator in his time, the origin of total football, what everyone uses now. He was not, I believe, the best footballer to grace the world. Many players these days would give him a run for his money. In his time however, perhaps he was.
All that comes to mind with that name is a missed shot on an empty goal, high over.Quote:
Originally Posted by Old Manus
That's hard to do, since I was born in 88', and he didn't get anywhere until the 90's. Great player though. And here I thought you would bring out your favorite boy, Kuyt.Quote:
Originally Posted by Psychotic
edit: Bloody hell. If Cruijff was still alive, he'd die from shame at watching this game.
I just find it bizarre that they think they can do that. I mean, it's just a huge case of denial. It's like saying "Germany has stripped Adolf Hitler of all links to Germany. They have disowned him. He was never German."Quote:
Originally Posted by charliepanayi
I mean, he played the games, guys. You can't take that back.
if everyone thinks he didn't play for England, then it must be true, right?
You just gotta believe.
And so the hypening begins.
Of course, in the real tournament that blubbery smurf with the turning circle of an oil tanker will start every game no matter what. He will huff and puff and slow down the fast pressing game we exhibited tonight and the same old trout will happen.
It's just a shame because England have finally got rid of Gerrard and Lampard and we are so much better. The thing with those two and Rooney is that their style of play works wonders in the Premier League and against the Andorras of the world, but they're far too slow and selfish to do well against top international sides.
The line up and really different play style tonight took guts so who knows. Credit where it's due, good work Roy.
ENGLAND CONFIRMED AS WORLD CHAMPS
THE NEW GOLDEN GENERATION COMES OF AGE
HARRY KANE THE NEW ALAN SHEARER
DELE ALLI THE NEW PAUL GASCOIGNE
CHRIS SMALLING THE NEW TONY ADAMS
REST OF EUROPE ARE YOU EVEN TRYING?????
Well I'm glad to see an enjoyable game. I actually dropped 20 sheets to go to the Wales game yesterday, which was so boring it caused me to contemplate my own mortality.
I know the joke is "oh lol. England hype" but you know what, smurf it, I'm hyped and I'm going to continue to be hyped, because we only get two major tournaments every 4 years and it's fun. Really looking forward to the tournament, especially with Wales in the group too.
May God have mercy on your soul. I was at the SWALEC pre-season training for the true sport of kings and a few of the gents decided to go to the game instead. They assure me I missed nothing.Quote:
Originally Posted by Crop
Who are you two fellas supporting in The Big One anyway? I need to know who to aim my bantz cannons at.
The game against the Netherlands is going to be a slaughter. God, I wish I could not see it, but I know I will.
Missed all the action as I was gigging last night. Just watched the highlights and yeah... WORLD BEATERS.
We might have half a chance at the Euros. Psy, please don't change my name to Jordan Henderson again.
That was entirely the fault of Old Manus. Big Andy - who, let us not forget, scored in the last Euros - must never be insulted or besmirched.
Liking the tasty chat about Rooney starting this summer. I think fans are looking at him after last night and being reminded of 10 years of boring dross from successive England teams made up of uninterested club players. That's not to say that New England will be any different, but at least they're something new. I think he'll probably be in at least one starting XI anyway, but who's to say he won't finally actually be good at a tournament now that he'll be playing with a midfield that doesn't include Milner, Barry and Lampard?
Me. I say it.
Also don't kid yourself, Milner's on the plane. Which is fine, in a squad with limited numbers having a player who can feasibly play in 4 or 5 positions is good. Just as long as he's not #1 choice for any of them, which fingers crossed he won't be but who knows with Roy. To be honest though, quite why we need both him and Henderson (the "we" can be either Liverpool or England) when they are the exact same player I don't know.
I only live here. England all the way.Quote:
Originally Posted by Psychotic
Only downside is I don't think I'll be able to get over the border for the game. Don't think I'll risk going out and getting a pint of Brains smashed over my head, I'll watch it indoors.
CYMRU AM BYTH (unless Wales are already out then I will be a die hard Brit supporting the home nations)
Bloody Brits. Get out of our country, go get your own weed from now on! Ya cheeky slags. :irked:
Holland have edged the game, to be honest. It was a lovely move for the goal though.
Jamie Vardy to play Jamie Vardy in the new Jamie Vardy movie.
Well, that was a lame way to tie.
...and to take the lead. Clear foul not given.Quote:
Originally Posted by Aerith's Knight
Eh, don't agree. Foot on the ball, shove from the side, the BPL has a lot worse. No extended arm and ball contact, clear to me.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bubba...and to take the lead. Clear foul not given.Quote:
Originally Posted by Aerith's Knight
But still, a defender smacking the ball, lame penalty. 1-1 should've been the final score.
They wouldn't have conceded the goal if they hadn't had stood around like statues with their arms in the air waiting for the whistle to blow.
EURO FLOPS
VARDY AND FRIENDS FOLD AT WEMBLEY AS ROY RECALLS ROO FOR FRANCE
First rule of any sports: Don't expect the referee to catch anything. Seen this happen too many time with off-side calls.Quote:
Originally Posted by Old Manus
Forget Rooney, we're playing Wales. I fancy another leek-smeared scalp for Andy "Swanslayer" Carroll. Do it, Roy. You know it makes sense.Quote:
Originally Posted by Old Manus
Come on Bournemouth!
Come on Eileen!
Too-ra-loo-ra, too-ra-LOO-RA RAY HOUGHTON!!!!
Not your finest work.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bubba
Indeed... and definitely not theirs.Quote:
Originally Posted by PsychoticNot your finest work.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bubba
With Leicester's fourth successive 1 - 0 victory over Southampton, they increase their lead over Tottenham to 7 points. Things are getting exciting!
Doesn't that make it less exciting?
There's still every chance Tottenham or another team could still win the title (which would make me hate them forever).
My heart is in my mouth every weekend.
Southampton really gave their all though. Great match to watch.
edit: Hmm, I'm getting a feeling of partiality on the ref of the Man. U - Everton game.
in what way?Quote:
Originally Posted by Aerith's Knight
Nah, it let up after the first 20 min.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bubbain what way?Quote:
Originally Posted by Aerith's Knight
Still, whoever is taking care of the grass on Old trafford should be fired. It's like advanced slip n' slide instead of football.
It didn't let up because it didn't exist. You don't like LVG, let it go, man.Quote:
Originally Posted by Aerith's KnightNah, it let up after the first 20 min.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bubbain what way?Quote:
Originally Posted by Aerith's Knight
It was a horrible game. I don't care though. All I want is three points from any game these days. Maybe next season my club will be recognisable.
http://ichef.bbci.co.uk/onesport/cps...rtial1_afp.jpgQuote:
Originally Posted by Bubba
Red shirt, white shorts, black socks and a sense of pure unbridled evil? Nope, I definitely still recognise Manchester United. Everton on the other hand doing a Chelsea impression for reasons known only to themselves.
Dude, what is your problem? The ref seemed biased in favor of Everton. And why would I dislike van Gaal? The man got us 3rd place in the world cup.Quote:
Originally Posted by BubbaIt didn't let up because it didn't exist. You don't like LVG, let it go, man.Quote:
Originally Posted by Aerith's KnightNah, it let up after the first 20 min.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bubbain what way?Quote:
Originally Posted by Aerith's Knight
It was a horrible game. I don't care though. All I want is three points from any game these days. Maybe next season my club will be recognisable.
I thought the game was alright, enough action and good defensive actions on both sides.
My apologies, man. I was in a terrible mood yesterday and clearly misread what you've posted. Sorry.Quote:
Originally Posted by Aerith's KnightDude, what is your problem? The ref seemed biased in favor of Everton. And why would I dislike van Gaal? The man got us 3rd place in the world cup.Quote:
Originally Posted by BubbaIt didn't let up because it didn't exist. You don't like LVG, let it go, man.Quote:
Originally Posted by Aerith's KnightNah, it let up after the first 20 min.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bubbain what way?Quote:
Originally Posted by Aerith's Knight
It was a horrible game. I don't care though. All I want is three points from any game these days. Maybe next season my club will be recognisable.
I thought the game was alright, enough action and good defensive actions on both sides.
No don't make up I want to see Danny vs Denny.
I'm not even mad about losing to the West Indies. The coolest sports team in the world.
Gutted about losing to England, personally.
It'll be interesting to see what happens to NZ cricket in the next few years. They've lost the talisman in Brendon McCullum, and the squad in general is aging a bit. Bowling wise they'll be OK for a while but both wicket keepers are in their 30s and so are a lot of their batsmen. They've been in the sun for the last 5 years but don't have any trophies to show for it.
Fair enough mate, no hard feelings.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bubba
Also, no hard feelings either, Paul. I'm sure you're just upset about liverpool being terrible.
Understandable.
Well I mean I'm not gonna argue with it being terrible but that's hardly breaking news.
Breaks Klopp's heart every week.
He'll get a lot of money in the Summer I'm sure. I don't mind either way, Klopp is my favourite.
Fernando - doh!
Hey Football Thread! You know how I said Luis Suarez was great and y'all said he wasn't and now he's probably the best player in the world?
lol
He can play a bit. He's still a knob though.
Well yeah.
I'm not sure if anyone has doubted his footballing ability. His footballing ability is great (although I wouldn't say he's Messi/Ronaldo level, but I think that goes without saying). He, the person, Suarez, is not great despite this because he's a knob.
I would say he has now surpassed Messi and Ronaldo now actually. Neither is as good as perhaps they were a couple of years ago - though obviously he's not better than either was than when they were at their peak. For the past year or so though? Absolutely. This season Suarez has 45 goals and 18 assists in 45 games, and neither of the old big two has matched either figure.
The times they are a-changin'.
Yeah, I'm talking career more than year. Although I'll point out that while he does have 45 in 45 this year, Ronaldo has 42 in 40, so even when we talk of them being past their best, Ronaldo still manages to narrowly outperform him on goal to game ratio (and Messi isn't far off). The difference in games is mostly because of Real Madrid getting thrown out of the Copa del Rey for fielding an ineligible player.
I think Suarez is "at their level" this year, but it's arguable whether or not he has actually surpassed them.
Still, all three of them are 29+, so we'll be seeing them decline in the next few years, probably... I wonder who will be the next person to win their first Ballon d'Or?
Suarez isn't fit to bite Ronaldo's boots.
Neymar or Lewandowski is my guess.
Memphis Depahahahahaha!! I was laughing writing it!
I thought your pick was Jordon "model for the new England kit for no apparent reason" Ibe.
I laughed at your mind generating that name.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bubba
Great football and great atmosphere. The Europa League has been a highlight of my evenings this year. Glad that we have a manger who gives a trout, although the two huge ties we've drawn probably contributed too.
Knowing Klopp, he would give two! Fresh from the market.
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Originally Posted by Psychotic
I honestly think it should be given to Suarez. Ronny & Messi have 7 between them, and although I agree that Suarez isn't exactly better than them, he certainly isn't worse. Give it to someone new.Quote:
Originally Posted by Loony BoB
This whole player of the year thing isn't all that accurate anyway unless you are clearly a cut above the past few years (like Messi). If say Aguero, Lewandowski and some others was playing up front for Barca I'm confident they would get just as good figures because ability-wise they are outstanding.
To be fair, Suarez managed 31 in 33 in a Liverpool side which featured the likes of Iago Aspas and Aly Cissokho.
BIG ANDY!!!
I mean that's not Swansea but close enough.
Good result by Swansea to get make them more secure. Bournemouth did well against Villa, also. It's pretty much all but over for Aston Villa, really. All they're missing is a big fat 'R' replacing 20th.
I must not have looked at a table (or at least the lower half) for awhile, because I was mildly surprised that Bournemouth are 11th, which is a pretty fantastic place for them to be in.
Could based Gylfi carry the Swans any harder
If Tottenham draw or lose against Manchester United, they have a slight mountain to climb to catch Leicester. An outright loss keeps the deficit at 10 whole points.
Well trout
Looks like the floodgates are opening now. Is this the first time Man. U has lost against Tottenham for a long time?
At White Hart Lane yes. They've stuffed us at Old Trafford.Quote:
Originally Posted by Formalhaut
Lads, it's Man United.
http://www.theguardian.com/football/...chester-united
Spuds can piss right off, I hope they lose all their remaining games by 20 goals and get relegated next season, dire team of filth. Awful fans as well (fwankwy)
What a cracking cup tie. West Ham took to long to turn up in the second half. Cracking goal from Rashford and De Gea isn't human.
So if you had a spare seat for a striker on the plane to the Euros... would you take Rashford or Carroll?
Mate as far as I'm concerned Carroll is ahead of Harry Kane, let alone Marcus Rashford. Messi? Ronaldo? Pele? Jog on the lot of you. Big Andy is a colossus.
Actually, I agree with you completely. Although it must be said, there are technically two definitions of a colossus
- A statue that is much bigger than life size
- A person or thing of enormous size, importance or ability
I think it's fair to say that the first description fits him perfectly.
I'm sure yesterday the chap who's moved in next door found out I was a Man Utd fan...in a very loud way.
Tonight I found out in an even louder way that he's a Liverpool fan.
I think everyone is a Liverpool fan tonight.
Dortmund really Arsenal'd that one up.
What a game. What a night. What an atmosphere. I feel smurfing sick, it's beautiful. I love football so much.And you? Get to smurf. :aimkiss:Quote:
Originally Posted by Bubba
Well spin my nipple nuts and send me to Alaska.
That's smurfing incredible. You guys deserve to win this competition after that. Good luck to you!
I was going nuts. It was insane! It reminded me so much of those great Liverpool CL performances from yesteryear. I always like to see the PL clubs do well in Europe because it shows that the PL is a strong league. Amazing scenes.
That was a pretty incredible comeback, have to admit.
Jurgen Klopp will never have to buy a beer in Liverpool again. Though, I doubt he would have anyway. The man is a treasure.
All of the cracks in the team, and there are a bunch, were for one crazy, glorious, frustrating, heart-racing night forgotten as this team played their absolute guts out. My biggest fear now is that a letdown will set in and we won't go all the way but I have faith in Klopp that is becoming nearly fanatical.
I was watching this match at a sleepy pub in New York and the few people around were barely paying attention but as the game picked up, around the 65th minute, the place filled up and the buzz started to build. By Sakho's goal everyone was jumping up and down. By the time Milner made that cross to Lovren, the entire bar was converted. We all agreed to meet here again in a few weeks for the semi-finals. Long live football.
Also, I want to echo what has been said a lot, fair play to Dortmund. They are a truly great club, especially offensively and I will root for them against literally anyone else they play going forward. Their fans were wonderful, the atmosphere was dizzying and Anfield felt like it always should on these European nights again.
Take care all.
ANDY WHY
Well, West Ham is now on my 'hate' list.
Grrr, just let Leicester win damn it!
Liverpool does realize this isn't handball right?
I've just realised that Jamie Vardy is the chav Luis Suarez.
He's a nasty racist piece of trout but he's my nasty racist piece of trout, you know?
Damn it Tottenham! :argh:
I so really want them to win the league. I've never been so interested in the league than I have this year.
What'd he do? :oQuote:
Originally Posted by Psychotic
Got sent off for diving (second yellow) and screamed in the ref's face that he was a smurfing :bou::bou::bou::bou:. Unless you mean the racism thing, he racially abused a gentleman in a casino at the start of the season and I believe you can find video of it.
Oh, wow. I guess someone had to take up the John Terry mantle... Vardy for England Captain 2017?
Speaking of John Terry replacements, £40m for John Stones? ahahahahahahahahaha £4m would be a rip off.
4-0 as a score flatters Everton by some margin. It's been brutal.
I suppose all fans in this thread are happy with the games tonight. Well, except for Manus. But nothing short of Swansea mysteriously swallowing all the good players from Bayern and Barcelona will save that wreck.
Pretty much safe now, so let's get this Vincent Tan 2.0 takeover over and done with and start work on plugging the ginormous holes in the squad (and club). A season to forget. Not a single game since the first few weeks where I can say we looked like a class side.
With the injuries piling up, now is the time to see if Danny Sturridge can actually stay fit for a run of games until the end of the year. When he plays, he scores, but man, his injury history has been brutal.
Also,
I thoroughly enjoyed this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ujVNijLlQGM
Seriously, can I write Klopp in for our next President?
Take care all.
Only Lionel Messi and Luis Suarez have more assists than James Milner in 2016. Beautiful.
John Stones is completely overrated as is Ross Barkley. Liverpool are attacking in packs going forward under Klopp to great effect. When I look at that compared to the rigid system of LVG's it makes me sad.
I dunno, I find Man. U.'s matched to be chokfull of good passes, nice plays, just not a lot of finishers.
Liverpool's matches are a lot more chaotic, but it is of course fun to see 4-3, 5-4 matches etc, instead of 1-0, 2-0.
I reiterate my point. What a match, just wonderful. Great plays on both Everton and United's side, not 3 minutes without a shot. But that last goal, that cheer, wonderful.
Makes you think that Rashford really was what Manchester needed. Someone to take the heat from Martial, so they both can be the artists they are. Fellaini playing good as well, better than I could've hoped for.
Good old Everton, the only team more flaky when the chips are down than we are.
Had a few mates over for the game. What a game. What a save. What a last minute finish! Most enjoyable game of the season for me. Can't remember the last time I shouted so loud.
We're going to Wembley!...again.
I kind of hope it's enough to keep LvG in a job. Not in a snide "heh he's bad hope man u suck :smug:" kind of a way - he's on course to finish above Liverpool every season he's been there! - but because I find him to be entertaining. He's a funny guy and I like having him in the Premier League.
I honestly don't care about managers. I care about the game, about the players, and about good football. If losing a manager causes a team to screw up for months, then I'd rather not see it. Not every manager replacement is like Klopp, and see how well Sunderland has been doing after the switch. Not to mention Chelsea isn't doing much better either.
Honestly really feel that Rooney in the midfield is where he belongs now, and also that Martial/Rashford/Lingard are the future primary trio of Manchester United attacking talent - assuming we can keep them. When they play, you notice the difference a lot. There are other good players but those three have changed the season entirely.
Trying to remember the last batch of youngsters that came through to such notable effect... I mean we've seen long-stay players like O'Shea, Brown, Fletcher and co but if the young kids coming through right now really do stick with it, I'd be impressed.
Chelsea had the longest unbeaten run in the league thanks to Hiddink xD
Also I agree with two thirds of that trio. Martial and Rashford have shown glimpses of real talent that'll set them well over the coming years. Lingard, however, is simply not good enough for a club with the ambitions of Manchester United. Given his late breakthrough people don't realise he is, in football terms, significantly older than the other two and is the same age as the likes of Pogba, Coutinho and Isco.
I don't care so much about his age compared to the other two as I do about his potential and play style. He's like Fletcher, a bit of a late bloomer, but damn has he made a difference in the games he plays in far more often than not. All three of them are capable of running at players and getting past them, and of scoring goals. Sure, Lingard may not be as much a #9 as the other two, but he's still an immense talent in the team coming through at the same time.
Also, not claiming he'll be amongst the people clamouring for player of the year awards a la those you mentioned, but more claiming he is among a trio of players who have made a notable difference, all in the same way, to our team's style of play.
The new Ashley Young, perhaps? Not a criticism, the man is a Premier League title winner.
Yeah, maybe! Hopefully with less diving and more titles. Lingard's current goal to game ratio is a lot better than Ashley's, mind you, even without taking part in free kicks.
EDIT: Scratch that, it's similar to how Young's goal to game ratio used to be... before he joined United. xD
Serious question folks.
what the hell is going on in the Premier League?
Tell you what, as I United fan I have never wanted United to lose before, but I hope we gets our butts kicked next match.
I absolutely want to win the next game, and I think we can. Our home form has been great and with Arsenal and City still to play each other, we're in genuine contention for 4th place.
I want Leicester to win the league as much as the next football fan, but not at the expense of my team! Besides, they pretty much have the league sewn up now anyway.
Of course if my maths doesn't fail me... if Spurs were to lose any of their remaining games, that's it regardless of what Leicester do. It's always nice for a team to win the title with a win though.Quote:
Originally Posted by Crop
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Originally Posted by PsychoticNever stop quoting this post.Quote:
Originally Posted by Old Manus
There is still time. I still believe.Quote:
Originally Posted by PsychoticQuote:
Originally Posted by PsychoticNever stop quoting this post.Quote:
Originally Posted by Old Manus
...why? If you're a United fan, why?Quote:
Originally Posted by Fox
If United win all their remaining games, it's quite likely they will get a top four spot because Arsenal and City have to play each other and we're two points behind both of them. If they draw it'll be trickier, but we're playing pretty good football lately (shocking, I know!).
Meanwhile Leicester only need, what, one win from three games to win the league? Let them get it against Everton or Chelsea, not us. Tottenham could easily drop points against Chelsea or Southampton, too, and their last match against Newcastle is a potential slip up considering the Magpies are fighting relegation (it's possible that fight will last until the final round).
Essentially there's no reason to want United to lose when Leicester will almost certainly win the league even if they do lose to United.
I'd much prefer us to be playing in the CL next season alongside Leicester.
Personally I really hope they lose to us and beat Everton. I always feel it's much more special to win the PL in a home game rather than an away one anyway.
Nah, I think Arsenal fans would say it was far more fun when we won it at Anfield/Old Trafford/White Hart Lane. Anyway, hopefully Leicester wrap it up now, so I can merely forget this season rather than endure the living hell of Spurs winning the title.Quote:
Originally Posted by Loony BoB...why? If you're a United fan, why?Quote:
Originally Posted by Fox
If United win all their remaining games, it's quite likely they will get a top four spot because Arsenal and City have to play each other and we're two points behind both of them. If they draw it'll be trickier, but we're playing pretty good football lately (shocking, I know!).
Meanwhile Leicester only need, what, one win from three games to win the league? Let them get it against Everton or Chelsea, not us. Tottenham could easily drop points against Chelsea or Southampton, too, and their last match against Newcastle is a potential slip up considering the Magpies are fighting relegation (it's possible that fight will last until the final round).
Essentially there's no reason to want United to lose when Leicester will almost certainly win the league even if they do lose to United.
I'd much prefer us to be playing in the CL next season alongside Leicester.
Personally I really hope they lose to us and beat Everton. I always feel it's much more special to win the PL in a home game rather than an away one anyway.
Also worth noting the Hillsborough inquest verdict today, which lays bare the full culpability of the police and the authorities.
I dunno, I think when United won the league away we had to wait until the home game to be presented and that annoyed me. I like it when the league is won and trophy presented on the same day.
This is well worth a read. The police, government (who never tried to disguise their contempt for football fans), footballing authorities and media all conspired to try and hide the truth of what happened at Hillsborough. And sadly now, 27 years on, many of the people responsible are dead or too old and infirm to face justice.
http://www.theguardian.com/football/...P=share_btn_tw
It's awful. You think this kind of multi agency cover up is the stuff of movies or the product of derranged tin foil hat wearers. The poor families have been through hell.
To this day I still cannot fathom how long it has taken for justice to be done. May those who perished rest in peace and may the families feel the vindication they so surely deserve. Also, may the S!N "newspaper" finally set for good.
Random question:
Let's say Man City win The Champions League and Liverpool win Europa but Man Utd and Arsenal finish in the Top 4. Who gets left out of the Champions League next year? Surely England doesn't get 6 teams?!
Take care all. YNWA.
Nope, England would get 5 teams. The top 3, Man City and Liverpool would qualify in that situation.
I gotcha. Would be a bitter pill for whomever finished 4th!
Finally read this. I feel sick. Like, you can totally take the football element away from this, this is just plain smurfing wrong. The police incompetency leading to so many deaths is one thing, but then to smear the families and friends of those who died as being responsible and consistently lying about it is a terrible abuse of power. A good article, the only thing missing (and I guess not entirely relevant to today's verdict but y'know) is the smurfing Sun's role in it too, the collusion and printing what they knew to be bulltrout in an attempt to sell papers.Quote:
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Bringing it back onto football, this: http://imgur.com/a/Fj7Dv is such a nice album showing the support all across Europe. Football fans proving themselves to be the very opposite of how the lies from those in power tried to portray them.
Re: The Sun, there's this article. The thought that so many idiots still read that awful excuse for a newspaper is a depressing one indeed.
http://www.theguardian.com/football/...ugh-unravelled
Read this yesterday which I though was very sad - The 97th Hillsborough victim.
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Originally Posted by Loony BoB
Good shout with Fletch. His physique is the similar cause of why he's been a relatively late bloomer. He should have been given a chance earlier in his career but through negligence just wasn't, same sort of situation with Pereira right now. Lingard has been hugely underrated for us IMO. He makes so much things happen and drags defenses with his runs. I can guarantee that next season under a new manager we'll see more of him, where players aren't so isolated up front as we see under LVG. It's why we find it hard to score tap-ins or easy goals. Excited to think what potential that leaves Martial + Rashford with.
What signings do you think Man United need next season?
They need mid-fielders. Rooney is a good choice, and works very well as a center-forward, but you need builders. You need people to move it forward. Too often I see them play it back to Blind to make that long pass towards Martial or Lingard. That shouldn't be the job of a defender. It leaves them out of position when there's a counter, which we've seen very often.
Maybe a good extra right wing defender would be good. Sometimes de Gea is all what keeps the count down. Then again, that's what you pay for with a keeper of that quality.
I'm not so certain that under a new manager we'll see more of him - LVG has actually played him a lot when he has been available. Januzaj got good playtime from Moyes and then got written off by LVG early on, the same thing could happen to Lingard.Quote:
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Honestly, I'm not sure what signings we need. Our defence has been solid this season, our strikers are blooming, I suppose we could do better in midfield but I'm really not keen on the whole "buy the big bucks player" unless that player is really what we need. If Rooney is content to move into midfield permanently I think the entire team will benefit immensely. If we stick with 4-3-3 as we have been playing, you're looking at the set of...
Martial - Rashford - Lingard
Backup: Depay, Mata, Herrera, Rooney, Young, Wilson
Rooney - Carrick - Fellaini
Backup: Schneiderlin, Schweinsteiger, Herrera, Pereira, Mata
Shaw - Blind - Smalling - Darmian
Backup: Fosu-Mensah, Young, Jones, Rojo, Valencia, Varela, Borthwick-Jackson, McNair
De Gea
Backup: Romero, Johnstone, Pereira
This is not a bad side at all. If anything, perhaps bring in another central midfielder, potentially a true defensive one although I still don't really like those, preferring Vidal-style box-to-box instead... but there aren't so many of them these days. Potentially another some backup for the defence, but really, with the youth we have shining lately, why not keep the trust?
I genuinely do feel we'll improve if we stick with the current side - it is merely a case of which manager we'll have, and if we can keep all our best players. I'm more worried about who will leave the club rather than who will stay. If LVG stays, and sticks with the new pace-based system we've seen in recent games, we will be a force to be reckoned with next year and I would prefer that is the situation we come into. However, if LVG reverts to his old boring style he used for much of the season, we'll go backwards. If Mourinho is hired, I just don't think he suits our club as he doesn't support growing players, he's more of a short-term solution and we need to think long term. Also, I feel hiring someone who was a failure in his own right and has basically imploded is not always the best thing to do! Yes, he is a serious contender, but no, I don't think he's the instant solution many believe he is. I also don't trust him to play youth, I don't trust him to mess around with the side to a notable degree, all these things make me prefer LVG staying over hiring Mourinho.
However, I'm not against a change of manager so much as I am wanting us to take note that we have really improved late this year and if we continue on this path we will be serious contenders next season.
I think if LVG goes, it will be for failures at the start of the season, not recent ones, and if that is the case then I question it being the right one.
Agree with you both on Rooney. Still has so much to offer just was out of form and confidence at the start of the season. Central role could suit him to a tee.
Good point. I think Lingard has done more this season and been more consistent than Januzaj did however.Quote:
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4-3-3 should have implemented long ago. Playing against Norwich & Southampton at home with two defensive midfielders brought major WTH moments but it looks like the manager understands that we do more with bodies up there. Better late then never I suppose.Quote:
Honestly, I'm not sure what signings we need. Our defence has been solid this season, our strikers are blooming, I suppose we could do better in midfield but I'm really not keen on the whole "buy the big bucks player" unless that player is really what we need. If Rooney is content to move into midfield permanently I think the entire team will benefit immensely. If we stick with 4-3-3 as we have been playing, you're looking at the set of...
I asked what some of you thought before giving my views because I thought we don't need much change at all. Blind has been under-appreciated at CB, so I'd be fine with him at the back with Smalling. Shaw coming back is huge, and Fosu-Mensah over Darmian at RB who I'm really high on. It's been the best part of the season seeing so much youth proving themselves. I'd love to fast-forward a few years and see what they'll develop into.Quote:
This is not a bad side at all. If anything, perhaps bring in another central midfielder, potentially a true defensive one although I still don't really like those, preferring Vidal-style box-to-box instead... but there aren't so many of them these days. Potentially another some backup for the defence, but really, with the youth we have shining lately, why not keep the trust?
Saying that, I still wouldn't say no to a defensive midfielder. This Renato Sanchez kid who has been touted lately seems like a good punt for us. Seems to be that top box-to-box midfield prospect you said we sorely needed. And if a winger became available like Mahrez, I'd jump at it. Last season my number one pick was getting in Greizmann, but with Atletico doing so well it would be harder to prize him away. I think the pull of Mourinho and plenty of cash Atletico's could sway him though. He'd be a dream signing.
There's myths about Mourinho. I think everyone knows Man United has been his dream job. I think he'd settle at United for years if he had his way. The youth thing is worrying, although even this season he was ready to drop Terry and start Zouma. I remember looking at the City game at Lingard when he was playing number 10, and how quick he was to go from defence to attack, and then back to defence with his pace. Straight away I was thinking Mourinho would love that.Quote:
I genuinely do feel we'll improve if we stick with the current side - it is merely a case of which manager we'll have, and if we can keep all our best players. I'm more worried about who will leave the club rather than who will stay. If LVG stays, and sticks with the new pace-based system we've seen in recent games, we will be a force to be reckoned with next year and I would prefer that is the situation we come into. However, if LVG reverts to his old boring style he used for much of the season, we'll go backwards. If Mourinho is hired, I just don't think he suits our club as he doesn't support growing players, he's more of a short-term solution and we need to think long term. Also, I feel hiring someone who was a failure in his own right and has basically imploded is not always the best thing to do! Yes, he is a serious contender, but no, I don't think he's the instant solution many believe he is. I also don't trust him to play youth, I don't trust him to mess around with the side to a notable degree, all these things make me prefer LVG staying over hiring Mourinho.
Another myth is that he only plays defensively which I is rubbish. I can't remember off-hand but I seen a statistic for goals scored by his teams he managed and he was almost always #1 in the league. Yeah he parks the bus against some of the bigger teams, but I don't care. His track record doing this has been brilliant. I think he's exactly what we need.
As for LVG, he's a nice man and I've no ill feelings towards him. However, but he doesn't know how to build a unit to attack. Everyone is simply too isolated, and as well as that we lead a high line just like Arsenal that good attacking players can easily find holes in on a counter-attack. That's why Arsenal even with terrific players and a top CB in Koscielny will never win the league until they change manager again IMO.
I'd be disappointed if he's there next season to be honest.
David De Gea is the best keeper on the planet and if United lose him and don't make significant improvements on the squad BoB listed I can't see a top four finish next season, Mourinho or no. A couple of good young prospects in there and a few solid Premier League players, but keeper aside there aren't any world class players in there. Still, you can't help but think if they do get Jose - or rather, if they want him, it's pretty obvious he wants them with all the endless media flirting he's doing - they would give him some considerable funds.
I'm not an expert on squad formation and players (the transfer window really flies past me, honestly), but I'm not sure Mourinho would do wonders for Man United. He's coming off the back of a disastrous end to his Chelsea career, and as others have said I'm just not sure how well he will gel with the team. He's a short-term fix, at best.
Consider that Claudio Ranieri had a much worse time as Greece manager than Mourinho did as Chelsea manager! Though you're right that Mou is very much a short term manager. Which isn't a bad thing, actually. Since Ferguson left it's always felt as though those associated with United - former players in the media, fans and such like - have been unable to get past a "we need a long term successor to build an empire" mindset when the reality is that modern football just doesn't work that way anymore. When Wenger receives his long overdue P45/retirement pension it'll be the end of an era.
I did actually think while I was writing that post "but didn't Ranieri get absolutely slated in the media?", so that is a good point well made. True, we shouldn't let past experience colour our impression of the manager. I still think he is a rather pompous self-centred individual who thinks too highly of himself. I wonder how the Eva Carniero dispute is going, actually.Quote:
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I feel like Manchester United has had too many managers since Ferguson left. They've not had time to stabilise and settle. The problem with this current trend of 'revolving door managing' is that the manager knows they're just one bad season, even one bad run, away from danger and possible firing. That can't be good for team dynamic and it doesn't give the manager time. I see your point: long dynasties are no longer feasible in today's football (and Wenger really is holding out too long I think) but at the other end, I'm concerned about the rate at which managers leave as well.
Short 2-3 year stints is part of Mourinho's business model. He wouldn't have it any other way.
All I know is that if I have a group of staff that don't gel, I look at the manager. But if he gets that group of staff to really gel right before I was considering firing him, I give him a fair chance and see how it plays out. The past few months are the first in which I've seen United play really nice attacking football in a very long time, with pace, aggression, etc. We're playing really well. I don't wait until a manager gets things right and then fire him. I fire him when things are going wrong or there would be no point in keeping him. So he does better, leaves, and we are back to square one again in building our team? Urgh, for the love of God, please, don't do that.
I won't cry if LVG goes but I will absolutely see it as "Oh, back to square one again." You can guarantee that Mourinho would come in with a full change of staff - again - and we all know how that affected the players last time around. Half the damn world points to the change in coaching staff as one of the biggest failings when Moyes came in, and I can absolutely understand it. Perhaps it's time for a little consistency and patience while we find the right team (which I think we have, personally).
And yeah, keeping De Gea will be more important than any other change in personnel next season. He signed a five year deal but I'm not sure if that included any kind of buy out clause for not reaching the Champions League (or otherwise). If we don't hit the CL, will DDG suddenly want to leave? I'm not sure. He apparently was really pissed off at RM for the way they handled his transfer. And four years left on his deal? We hardly are in a position to be strong-armed by player or club. Normally you'd expect it to get to three years left first.
As for "United have no world class players" - how many world class players does the Premier League have at all right now? That team I detailed may not be world class but United has generally been more famous for building world class players than keeping them, let's be frank about that much. And when we "buy world class" it generally ends up turning out pretty awful for us. I don't really see us as a club who benefits from "buying the best players" so much as from "buying the best potential". And right now, it could be argued we have a lot of the best potential already.
It depends on what you mean by world class, really. Nowadays a 'world class' player is based on how much they are in the transfer window it feels like sometimes.
Yeah, Costa, Depay, Schweinsteiger, Maria, they cost a fortune yet contributed nearly 0. Some world stars those turned out to be. Often these guys come from a team that was build around them, like RvP during his time at Arsenal, and it just doesn't work in another system.
Then again, De Gea, Blind, Martial, Mata, were all great additions, and definitely world class. Perhaps you just can't predict how it'll turn out. But having 10 world class player on your team will play out differently than having 1 and a decent team. In the latter case he shines, in the previous one there can be bitterness, jealousy, etc. I see that a lot when Depay plays, since he always wants to show off, to show that he can be worth something, and that is something you don't do in the BPL.
You can on occasion, but you have to earn the right to. Depay has quite some way to go for that.
13. 18 if you think whatever the smurf happened to Chelsea is just a blip and they'll reclimb the heights of last season. City have 4, Spurs have 3, Arsenal and Leicester have 2 apiece and Liverpool and United have 1. Actually, make that Liverpool have 0.3 because he's typically injured for two thirds of a season. The one and only time he wasn't we nearly won the league.Quote:
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Can you actually name these players so we can rip into them like they're part of a Best Video Games list or something?Quote:
Originally Posted by Psychotic13. 18 if you think whatever the smurf happened to Chelsea is just a blip and they'll reclimb the heights of last season. City have 4, Spurs have 3, Arsenal and Leicester have 2 apiece and Liverpool and United have 1. Actually, make that Liverpool have 0.3 because he's typically injured for two thirds of a season. The one and only time he wasn't we nearly won the league.Quote:
Originally Posted by Loony BoB
Sure!
City: Kompany, Silva, De Bruyne, Aguero
Spurs: Vertonghen, Alderweireld, yes, Harry actual Kane
Leicester: Mahrez, Kante
Arsenal: Ozil, Sanchez
United: De Gea
Liverpool: Sturridge
Chelsea: Courtois, Hazard, Matic, Fabregas, Costa. But maybe none of them because smurf knows what is going on.
Honorouable mentions but not quite good enough: Hart, Sterling, Lloris, Alli, Cech, Bellerin, Vardy, Martial, pre-injury Luke Shaw (really!), Coutinho, Firmino, Willian, Lukaku, Payet, Mane, Arnautovic, Cabaye, Sigurdsson (you're welcome you cricket loving Daily Telegraph reader) etc. etc.
There are a lot of players here that I would probably not put in the bracket of world class, and a lot of other players I'd say are better than them these days. Tough to call though, because many of them have a fantastic name to themselves but as players in their particular club at this particular time, they aren't anything outstanding in recent months. Kompany is an example - I'd prefer Smalling based on this season although I'd not have said that in seasons prior.
Also unsure regarding a lot of Chelsea players. And Sturridge, although I know you and I could argue until the cows come home regarding that. He's very good, don't get me wrong, but I'd take Vardy or Martial ahead of him. Also, Saha has most definitely taught me that injuries matter when considering who is and is not world class. Because Saha scored more goals per minute played than any other player in a high flying United side for a season or two, and that included the likes of RVN, Rooney in his prime and Ronaldo on his way up.
Likewise, if you're going by "past glories count, form is temporary, class is permanent, etc" then Schweinsteiger is definitely world class. And I still wouldn't start him. xD
I guess world class doesn't mean a huge deal these days though, in that case. I'd take "good players" over "world class players" if they former were the likes of Rashford and Martial. Compare that to "world class" players like Di Maria who can turn out to be world class flops...
Daniel Sturridge and Anthony Martial have both scored 8 Premier League goals this season. One of them has played 12 games, the other has played 28. As in, more than twice as many. Come on :p With that said, if persistent injuries mean a player can't be world class in your eyes then yep, fair enough.
I rate Sturridge because
(SPOILER)http://i.imgur.com/W6VEkir.jpg
Can't deny those other two fellas were world class so by those same standards...!
On Kompany:
http://u.goal.com/2340900/2340932.jpg
Schweinsteiger was world class. Indeed, so was Rooney and so was Mata. The first two do seem to be past their primes though. As I've said many times in this thread, different footballers peak at different ages.
The thing I feel with world-class marked players is that there is a ton of pressure to stay that way. They're being paid a lot (too much, I'd say) and they're expected to do better and raise the team up to greater glories. If they have a poor start acclimatising to a different way of football, or take time to form new partnerships, then fans and the manager start complaining.
One of the reasons why I love Leicester so much is how well they're doing without a massive pay check. They may have two world-class players, but the entire team is working well and is to be commended, and aren't even being paid that much compared to players in bigger teams.
I suspect next season with the CL money and suitors hovering around the likes of Kante and Mahrez like vultures, you're going to see some hefty wages offered to certain Leicester stalwarts.
That is true, and I do fear for Leicester. I know Southampton got leeched a few years back and came out fine. While it might be financially in their interests to move on, I'd rather like them to stay at Leicester, at least for another season.Quote:
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Yeah it'd be nice but it's not the end of the world. This season (regardless of if they do manage to win the league) is a monumental achievement that'll be remembered in the city forever. I remember when I was at Leicester Uni in my final year I caught a couple of games during the relegation from the Championship season under Ian smurfing Holloway and it was pure toss xD So things can and have been a lot worse.
Oh, I think Kompany is awesome, I still think I'd prefer Smalling based on this season though, and that might be biased, but I really do feel Smalling has just been a rock this season, so good. Kompany has always been the first player I'd probably take out of the City side if I could pick one. But yeah, I've only seen Kompany a few times so I can understand those stats to be immense. I'm actually surprised though, because I have heard people (not United fans, before you think it xD) saying that he isn't the player he was a couple of years ago. Maybe it was just a bad run or something. I can see why you'd still say he's world class though. And I really do like him.
Yeah I won't argue on Smalling being a boss. Firmly established as England's #1 CB by a comfortable margin. But I also think rumours of Kompany's demise have been greatly exaggerated!
My designation of world class would be used a little more loosely than your's Paul.
I'll do my list (I love making lists, any excuse!):
Arsenal: Koscielny, Ozil, Sanchez
Chelsea: Courtois, Matic, Hazard, Fabregas, Costa
Man City: Kompany, De Bruyne, Silva, Aguero
Man United: De Gea, Smalling, Martial
Spurs: Lloris, Alderweireld, Kane
Leicester: Mahrez, Kante
Liverpool: Coutinho, Sturridge
West Ham: Payet
Sturridge has been world class for years. Although poor Anthony plays almost exclusively on the wing under LVG's rigid United, and Daniel plays for free-scoring Klopps Liverpool. Incomparable. :smash:Quote:
Originally Posted by Psychotic
I love Couts, and he is sure as hell going to sign for Barca for a huge fee either this summer or next (they've already started the tapping up process of having their players rave about how good he is in interviews) but I dunno if I'd say he's world class - yet! He is still surprisingly young.
Also to be fair, I'm not the one who initially compared Martial to Sturridge :p
Do you also have one that correlates the goals conceded to the amount of drugs in Sakho's system?Quote:
Originally Posted by Psychotic
Vinnie is by far the best and most important player we've signed in the modern era of Man City. He's an absolute tank of a defender and possibly more importantly, the greatest captain in the premier league and possibly world football. We are absolute dross whenever he's out. There isn't a team in world football that he wouldn't be in their starting XI when fully fit, and only really a handful of CB's who could claim to be better, and even some of them are debatable.
Oops. :shobon:
Hot damn, what a game so far. I think the ref made the right calls for each team's shouts - there wasn't enough from Simpson for a sending off and Rahmez basically ran into Rojo. Both looked worse in slow motion but yeah, good game so far, can't look away for a second.
I like how the commentators work here.
1. Fellaini's afro gets pulled, hard.
2. He gives the guy an elbow.
No ref watched that, so eh, and then the commentators discuss for 5 minutes: "Oh Fellaini, why don't you keep your arms to yourself."
Seriously? I mean, they're both wrong, but if someone pulls my bloody hair, hard, I would instinctively punch them in the bloody face.
Not sure if you're listening to Martin Tyler and that other guy I always forget the name of, but they seemed to not be aware of the hair pulling until later and they acknowledged it at that point.
Listening to the Dutch commentators, sadly, since I don't have the option of the English ones.
Anyway, Rooney needs to calm down in that match. Too many wild shots because he wants his 100th. I'm guessing he'll be reminded in the break that he's a midfielder now, not a striker.
Fellaini... very disappointed he didn't get sent off. I don't care if your stupid afro is getting pulled, you don't get to elbow people in the face. And Leicester should've had a penalty as well!
Double standards much? Yellow card for both of them, I say. This isn't a playground.Quote:
Originally Posted by Fox
No, because you don't break someones jaw by pulling their hair.Quote:
Originally Posted by Aerith's KnightDouble standards much? Yellow card for both of them, I say. This isn't a playground.Quote:
Originally Posted by Fox
Yellow for Huth, red for Fellaini.
Could easily be argued that the reaction was forced by the action. I know that's the kind of reaction I'd have if someone yanked my head back, too. Reflex. I'd say equal punishment for both players, and if you pull someone's head down in your own box... is that a penalty? I don't even know given the player doesn't have the ball.
Yeah there's a fair argument for a yellow and penalty from Huth, but I don't see any way out of a red card for Fellaini. I think if you're going to be a professional football where you should be expecting pushes and pulls you need to train yourself not to instinctively elbow people in the face.
I'm not sure if you've ever been in scrapes, but unless you put your weight into it, you aren't breaking anything. And that's with fists, not even the broad side (not the point) of an elbow.Quote:
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This I can agree with. But I still think pulling someone's hair goes just a little further than pulling a shirt. It's about the image of the game. What are they, children?Quote:
Originally Posted by Fox
Aye, a push and a pull on the shirt is one thing, a pull back/down on the head is very different than what you'd be expecting as a footballer.
Glad he's off either way because we were losing structure in our side, just got replaced by Herrera and I reckon that's what we needed. Less defence, but more technical control in offence.
If it's about the image of the game do you really think a pull of the hair and an elbow in the jaw are an equal offence? If this was a playground I wouldn't want to see children doing either but I know which would carry a longer spell in detentionQuote:
Originally Posted by Aerith's KnightI'm not sure if you've ever been in scrapes, but unless you put your weight into it, you aren't breaking anything. And that's with fists, not even the broad side (not the point) of an elbow.Quote:
Originally Posted by Fox
This I can agree with. But I still think pulling someone's hair goes just a little further than pulling a shirt. It's about the image of the game. What are they, children?Quote:
Originally Posted by Fox
P.S. Robbie Savage just jinxed it by saying "This is all setup for a Leicester winner". ¬_¬
I like the idea of Fellaini training himself not to elbow people in the face, as if he doesn't do it on purpose and it isn't the sole thing he offers as a footballer.
Also smurfing hell that was close.
If United lose De Gea... they could do worse than signing another Schmeichel.
A draw against Manchester United isn't a bad result... but I really wanted them to clinch the title today. :roll2
I'd rather they get the title in their own house. Better for the fans, better for the team, isn't it?
I guess. I'd rather they just win the title so I'm not spending every weekend with my heart in my mouth, but what can you do.
They can technically still clinch the title if Tottenham fail to beat Chelsea on Monday, right?
I just want them to wrap it up ASAP. Although now they've drawn to United I wont mind Spurs winning tomorrow, because it's definitely more special to win it on the pitch.Quote:
Originally Posted by Aerith's Knight
Man, that game has left me exhausted just from watching. Don't think is a point enough for us, sadly... we needed a win to stay in touch for the City-Arsenal game where we could have potentially overtaken one of them. Maybe Southampton and Arsenal can do us a favour and knock six points out of City... wishful thinking, really. xD
Leicester can indeed win it through a Spurs loss, but I really hope it doesn't happen that way. You want to win in front of as many fans as possible, so you can get the trophy right after a victory.
A draw for both sides wasn't what was required, which makes it doubly infuriating. I'm a very neutral football fan (except where Leicester is concerned), and for Manchester United, they failed to make lasting inroads towards the top four. Leicester also fails to just settle it once and for all.Quote:
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If they win the title, I'll legit be celebrating.
A Spurs draw would also do it. The gap is 8 points now, a draw would make it 7 with 6 remaining.Quote:
Originally Posted by Loony BoB
I know it would be better to win against Everton at home, but I can't handle the tension. I'd rather they win it sooner than waiting for a fairytale day next week that may not actually happen. I don't mind them winning the trophy on Monday. They can celebrate later; the massive parties in Leicester will be the same regardless of how they won it. :p
You might think that, but as a United fan, there is something really special about winning it yourself, and to celebrate with all the fans when it happens. I would be absolutely gutted if they won it because Spurs dropped points rather than because of Leicester winning. It would be like being told a spoiler for a really exciting show that's coming up. Neutral fans might celebrate because Spurs lost, sure, but Leicester fans will want to have their moment watching the very second their team scored the goal that won them the title, knowing that it won them the title.Quote:
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Bring on the fairy tale ending. They deserve as much.
I think it's very easy as a United fan to be more concerned with where and how it's best to win the league due to how many times we've won it. It's pretty common for us.
For Leicester fans who were ecstatic just to avoid relegation this time last year, I really don't think it's much of a concern for them :)
Oh, I'm sure they'll take it however they can, but if they can win it at home, themselves, it'll feel that much better. I don't think anyone can really convince me otherwise. xD