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Originally Posted by Enjolras
When does he do that, exactly? He never had full control and the amount of people he killed was fairly marginal.Quote:
Originally Posted by The CrystalQuote:
Originally Posted by Enjolras
He never did any of that. Thanks to the pure luck of Jenova falling into the Lifestream, he was able to use Geostigma. But since his form of the Lifestream never took over the Planet's, he never got to planet-moving power. Not even close. It's as irrelevant as Kefka planning to kill all life.
And can anyone tell me if Cloud's Omnislash is more powerful than a Light of Judgment? Said Omnislash owned Sephiroth so unless it equals city-destroying power, it's less than what Kefka can do.
And yes, refacing the planet is way more impressive than corrupting the Lifestream. It requires a bit more effort and since the Lifestream has ALWAYS been weaker than Jenova ie. Jenova has been stopping the Planet from fully healing for millennia, it's only natural Sephiroth's Negative Lifestream was winning.
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Originally Posted by Behold the Void
I'm sorry, but those just aren't valid arguments. Where do you get the idea that if Kefka killed Sabin, he couldn't continue with his plan, either by running out of time or for any other reason? It would only take a couple of seconds if he so as powerful as you claim he was, and he could easily claim they were assassins sent to kill him and Leo. I repeat, why did Kefka run for his life from a simple bodybuilder who had strayed from his gym, and couldn't even use magic?Quote:
Originally Posted by Avarice-ness
But Square are the masters of poorly explained survivals. Hell, basically the whole IV cast except for Cecil looked to be dead at some point. They also did it with Duncan, so why not with with Sabin?Quote:
Originally Posted by Goldenboko
There's a subtle difference here. Sephiroth never had a reason to kill anybody other than Aeris, since she was the only one he perceived as a threat. That doesn't mean he's weak, but that he was arrogant and overconfident. Kefka would have doubtlessly perceived Sabin as a threat when Sabin tried to beat him to a bloody pulp, so why didn't he off him? Simple. He wasn't powerful enough.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rengori
Kefka never once took Sabin seriously in that entire encounter. That qualifies under the "does not perceive as a threat." At that point Kefka was a high-ranking Imperial Official inside an army base and Sabin was a brawny guy who waltzed in and decided to start chasing after him and interrupting his plans for some reason he probably wasn't aware of (assuming he cared, this being Kefka, probably not). Why should he waste his time?Quote:
Originally Posted by Firo VolondéQuote:
Originally Posted by Behold the Void
I'm sorry, but those just aren't valid arguments. Where do you get the idea that if Kefka killed Sabin, he couldn't continue with his plan, either by running out of time or for any other reason? It would only take a couple of seconds if he so as powerful as you claim he was, and he could easily claim they were assassins sent to kill him and Leo. I repeat, why did Kefka run for his life from a simple bodybuilder who had strayed from his gym, and couldn't even use magic?Quote:
Originally Posted by Avarice-ness
But Square are the masters of poorly explained survivals. Hell, basically the whole IV cast except for Cecil looked to be dead at some point. They also did it with Duncan, so why not with with Sabin?Quote:
Originally Posted by Goldenboko
There's a subtle difference here. Sephiroth never had a reason to kill anybody other than Aeris, since she was the only one he perceived as a threat. That doesn't mean he's weak, but that he was arrogant and overconfident. Kefka would have doubtlessly perceived Sabin as a threat when Sabin tried to beat him to a bloody pulp, so why didn't he off him? Simple. He wasn't powerful enough.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rengori
This argument is often brought up in D&D circles when high-level people start handing out quests to low-level people. The answer is that the high-level people have better things to do with their time and resources, so they leave the lower-level challenges to their expendable minions.
He has controll over the majority of the Lifestream. This is why the creators said that he was in his most powerful form in AC, and that there is nothing above him in the world of FFVII. In AC he was THAT powerful. But he didn't use all this power against Cloud, and paid for that.Quote:
Originally Posted by Behold the VoidWhen does he do that, exactly? He never had full control and the amount of people he killed was fairly marginal.Quote:
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Originally Posted by Enjolras
Please cite where you're pulling all this stuff out of, I'm interested in actually understanding what the smurf actually happened in AC.Quote:
Originally Posted by The CrystalHe has controll over the majority of the Lifestream. This is why the creators said that he was in his most powerful form in AC, and that there is nothing above him in the world of FFVII. In AC he was THAT powerful. But he didn't use all this power against Cloud, and paid for that.Quote:
Originally Posted by Behold the VoidWhen does he do that, exactly? He never had full control and the amount of people he killed was fairly marginal.Quote:
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Originally Posted by Enjolras
I'm pulling all this out of the Reunion Files, and interviews with the creators in the japanese DVD of AC.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rengori
Translation of the UOG and RF: Final Fantasy VII Ultimania Omega FAQ - IGN FAQs
Translation of some parts of the interview in the DVD:
http://flaregamer.com/b2article.php?p=109&more=1
This will certainly help you understand the movie.
He obviously can dish out more than he can take. Because even if he didn't use his full strength on Cloud, that shouldn't effect his damage soak.
So, one Light of Judgment and goodbye.
After watching some videos of CC, I saw that Sephiroth can move so fast that it give the impression he is teleporting. And this is even before his fall in the Lifestream.
Another reason why he wins.
Didn't the Statues give the user some sort of protection?