Street Fighter IV

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Originally Posted by Lionx

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Originally Posted by Depression Moon

PS3 and I'm ticked off at this game. I finally have a PS3 now and I can barely read the words on the screen. Everything is all sharp and bright. The words are too small as well. Capcom lied when they said it's for both casual and hardcore audiences. I've been losing to Seth about 20 times on the easiest difficulty. I can't seem to get my special move inputs right either. I could swear I'm doing what I can barely read on the screen (Kikoken) and it's not doing it. I'm like a master of Tekken and Smash, but I fail so badly at this.

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Lol damn feels like i am the only one getting it for PC...

What kind of TV are you using? If its not HDTV, you might have to adjust some of the settings.

Seth isnt that hard once you understand his tendencies...its hard to say, but he is much easier than say Gill or ST Akuma/Bison. Just use safer moves with less delay and he cant do most of his shannegians. Anti Airing jumps with him is a good guaranteed way to ensure damage too.

Try doing Challenge Mode and see how it goes...if you are using a pad it can be much harder to do inputs. I notice i cant do light punches into flash kick for Guile on a pad but i can on a stick...wtf?

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So you're having the same problems too. I've tried challenge mode and it seems easier to do some mves with the analog stick, but I still can't do Li's hadoken on purpose. There's like a 10% chance that she does it. I have a standard TV and do I set the adjustments from the game or the TV? The game only moves the HUD around.

I've managed to take slightly less beatings online now and I've beaten two people it could have been a third. I'm mainly using Sakura and C. Viper until I'm good enough to switch up. I still can't manage to do their ultras, but I can do their supers???

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Originally Posted by Depression Moon

So you're having the same problems too. I've tried challenge mode and it seems easier to do some mves with the analog stick, but I still can't do Li's hadoken on purpose. There's like a 10% chance that she does it. I have a standard TV and do I set the adjustments from the game or the TV? The game only moves the HUD around.

I've managed to take slightly less beatings online now and I've beaten two people it could have been a third. I'm mainly using Sakura and C. Viper until I'm good enough to switch up. I still can't manage to do their ultras, but I can do their supers???

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I cant say for sure since i do not have a HDTV nor the game and only played it at a friend's house. There should be a setting in the game...or maybe your PS3? I dont know for sure...i know what you mean by how it looks weird since i played it at Gamestop on a normal TV. I dont know quite what to say though...

Maybe you need to hold back a little more or watch where you are pressing when you press forward for the Kikoken. I cant say for sure since i am not there but...what happens when you press forward? Do you punch(crouch punch)? Jump? Telling me that might help to see what you might be doing wrong.

C.Viper is one hard character to really use...but if you are winning...its working! XD

Ultras are the same motion as Supers, just using 3 punches or kicks(or the L1/L2 buttons on the PS3 pad).

The Supers can be comboed into via an attack string (Like Viper can do a crouching medium kick, into Thunder Knuckle, and cancel that into a Super just fine), but Ultras need to be juggled into. Meaning you need to say, hit the guy with a Flame kick in the corner, then do an Ultra when they are still reeling in the air and catch them.

The only advice i can give is to get a joystick for your PS3...that will eliminate alot of problems with Chun Li's Kikoken, and the Ultras...and sometimes random shoryukens.

i had a hard time doing super combos at first to so i moved the trip punch button over to the right triggers and it has been easier.....i use the D-Pad to conrtol them also i find it much easier to do the moves and i love playing online and beating people sakura they get so pissed when the little girl whoops up on them

@ lionx yeah I usually do some kind of punch either it be mid low or hard. Getting an arcade stick isn't really reachable for me at the moment unless it's only like $40. I don't understand why the inputs are funny in this game. When I play Tekken I almost always do what I want to. Oh and I had thought i mentioned it in the above, no I don't have an HDTV.

Characters that use charging motions can be a little more difficult to use on a pad. The inputs in this game are loose enough so that you don't have to be super precise with it, but it can still be a problem if you're not used to it. The command for Kikoken is 'charge back, forward, punch'. To 'charge back', you hold the back direction for about two seconds. Then you go on with the rest of it. The game will allow you to roll between back, down and forward to do it after the charge, but you have to make sure you are only pressing forward at the end when you press 'punch'. If you only get a normal punch, you didn't charge back long enough. If you get a crouching punch, you pressed punch before you hit 'only forward'. If you jumped, you didn't press punch soon enough. It will come out if you hit diagonal up-forward and you happen to tap the punch button fast enough, but for the sake of accuracy you should focus on making sure you're only pressing forward.

If the 'actual' motion of charge back, forward punch is a little confusing for your thumb, try the 'charge back, half circle forward, punch' method.

And yeah, for the 3 punches and 3 kicks (which you need for Ultras), just put them on a shoulder trigger.

Can you do Chun's spinning bird kick or her super?

Also, I intend to get it for the PC as well.

Nope I can't do Spinning bird kick on purpose did it a cou[le of times on accident. I think I was crouching for like five seconds before I did it. For Ultras and the shoulder trigger are you talking about the L1 and the R1's or R2'and L2's?

Oh and lionx I want to see if i can at least win one round against you. I have yet to see a Rose, Chun Li, or Cammy online. I'm tired of getting my ass whooped and one of the times that I did win I barely won because the time ended you couldn't even really tell who had more health. That was all luck.

Hey do you know how I can unlock the special costumes for the girls?

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Originally Posted by Depression Moon

Hey do you know how I can unlock the special costumes for the girls?

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Add me on PSN, JKTrix. I'll play you. I've probably spent the most time with Rose as far as 'learning' the game, but I have played with everybody at least a little bit. Maybe I can help with the chun li problems online! Do you have a headset?

All right I'll play, I'm availabe from 11am to 7pm tommorow. I'm TheBlackTabard.
Edit: No, I don't have a headset.

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Originally Posted by Depression Moon

Nope I can't do Spinning bird kick on purpose did it a cou[le of times on accident. I think I was crouching for like five seconds before I did it. For Ultras and the shoulder trigger are you talking about the L1 and the R1's or R2'and L2's?

Oh and lionx I want to see if i can at least win one round against you. I have yet to see a Rose, Chun Li, or Cammy online. I'm tired of getting my ass whooped and one of the times that I did win I barely won because the time ended you couldn't even really tell who had more health. That was all luck.

Hey do you know how I can unlock the special costumes for the girls?

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For the moves, are you using the PS3 controller? I really dont know whats wrong...try pressing up along with kick very fast in one smooth motion? >_< And for Ultras, the shoulder buttons should be L1 for 3 punches mapped, L2 for 3 Kicks mapped. The R1 is Fierce punch, and the R2 is Roundhouse.

I dont have PS3 >_< I would very much be happy to play with you otherwise. All my experience is at friend's houses, Youtube, reading up, and Arcade at a local college. If you record some matches i would definitely love to see them though. ^^ If you get the PC version this June, i would gladly play with you then...

I use Abel, and Gen, but i can play those characters as well decently...they are truly slept on.

I feel after long time playing I can only really properly play Cammy and Rose.
Also finally beat hardest mode on default rounds with Rose today n_n~ ... after 4 continues ,_,

While we're at it, what's everyone's favorite stage? I'm a big fan of Cruise Ship Stern (The music is catchy :o)

Vietnam baby:

YouTube - Street Fighter IV OST - (Vietnam) Beautiful Bay Stage Theme

You have to listen to them without the fighting sometimes to really appreciate them.

...what what..awha what what..!

EDIT: Unofficial Tier List:

http://fast1.onesite.com/capcom-unit...s.jpg?v=175200

Rose is bottom tier below even Vega! Wtf! Yet she can deal with Sagat better than Seth? o_O

Idiots... putting Rose at the bottom...

It was the same with the final GGXX tier list, putting one of the stronger characters at the very low, just because his core special move was unruly/unreliable.

Its just an initial tier list though for the new characters that only been out for about a month. The Arcade characters are pretty much set unless we can find some more stuff about them, like how Viper jumped from Bottom Tier to high mid, and how Abel fell from mid to mid-low.

So far it seems accurate(Arcade-wise) for the most part...the top tier(with the exception of Seth i have no idea how he is that good), with Sagat being top dog, and Ryu/Gief following close afterwards, and Guile/Vega being the bottom of the heap.

I would give the new console characters another half a year or so before really taking their placements anything serious.

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It was the same with the final GGXX tier list, putting one of the stronger characters at the very low, just because his core special move was unruly/unreliable.

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Lol it depends, there are alot of factors in which to put that character in a lower position or not. For example Abel dropped from mid to mid low because his Change of Direction can be punished pretty easily upon blocked first hit. Things like that can hurt his game alot. However something like Fei Long's Command Grab, which at the moment everyone cant seem to land reliably or do anything consistantly damaging afterwards, is not an integral part of Fei Long's game and therefore would not affect him one bit despite how fumbling the move is.

It depends on how integral that move is really against the rest of the cast..for Abel its very integral, but for Fei Long? It was not part of his initial game to begin with so it doesnt matter that much.

Being 'low tier' isn't as game breaking as it is in other fighting games. From that list, Rose has about a 50/50 chance of beating anyone in the game. As a more-serious-than-not Rose player, I can definitely feel some of her weaknesses compared to other characters. But she's rarely at such a disadvantage that she will lose every time (against a similarly skilled player).

The 'tiers' seem pretty tight in this game, even though a few people have much better tools than others.

I just got off from my PS3 and i ended my session on a bang too. I'm getting a little better here. I have more control now of my moves. I wish I could have recorded my last fight, because it was off the hook. I was fighting against a Ken and I was Viper. We were both trying to get the upper hand on each other we did our supers and ultras on each other but we both missed and when we were down to our last bit of health, we hit each other and got a double KO.

The next round round was just as intense. He had me in the corner a few times, but I crossed threw him to get out of it. I did my ultra but his super spinning kick just went threw it. When we were down at last bits of health when he mistakenly did a shoryuken, I followed with my Super and then hit him with a low punch.

Man, that felt great!