Street Fighter IV

[Lionx]

First off, I only mentioned story and time-frame amongst things that might make SF4 seem like a new iteration of SF2. While, I like the little stories for each character, I never said that it was focal part of the series. You said that, putting words in my mouth. Secondly, I never stated, nor implied that all SF2 games were "the same". Anyone who's played more than one of them, even casually, could tell you that they are all fundamentally different. Again, putting words in my mouth.

For someone who has no intention of sounding snobbish about this subject, you're doing a grand job. :rolleyes2

Please someone tell me that his post about 'what made a new SF game' seemed to focus more on the story aspect than actual gameplay. Because thats what i sure read it as.

Alpha was a prequel series with a completely different style to it, so yeah, it's a different series. VI is supposed to take place right after II, features updated versions off alot of the backgrounds from II, features most of the same characters from II, and seems to be just adding a little bit more to the story of II, from what little they've revealed.

Granted, anything either of us say is just hearsay, until the game is released. It could be just as I've said just now or could veer off in a completely different direction. All we have to go on is some in-game fighting clips and interviews that don't get too in-depth on what's new story-wise. It looks alot like II to me, but who knows?

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I have no idea what in your mind constitutes as a new game then. Is Alpha a new series for you? Or just the same thing with extra characters? I am confused by your definition.

[Winter Nights]

Actually, if you read your own post, your question was if Alpha was a new SF SERIES not SF GAME. I just answered your question. The story is what separates the different series. The game-play and format is what separates each game. Each SF2 game is part of the SF2 series, because it's the same story, despite each game being quite different in terms of game play and format.

The story isn't what makes the game, but it is what decides which series in the franchise it's apart of. Alot of the promotional material is obviously catered to SF2 fans, giving off the air that the Capcom is re-hashing the same story under a new title. Thus, my original post.

Again.. I stand corrected on the matter and the thread is yours.

[Roogle]

Capcom is marketing the game in a method similar to Street Fighter II to recapture the large audience that the game had in the early 90's. This has no bearing on whether or not Street Fighter IV has gameplay similarity to Street Fighter II.

[Depression Moon]

I just tried the demo at Gametop the other day and I was addicted to it. I was at least in there for a half an hour playing. I wasn't as easy as I remembered and I found C. Viper easier to use than Chun Li. I got off of it though when a guy walked up and beat me with E. Honda, I almost got him though. Man, I really wish I had a PS3, even if the only game I have is this.

[Dreddz]

I really wish I would have put more time into SFIV. The game is great and probably the most refined of all the Street Fighters but I still haven't played it much at all. I unlocked all the characters (except Seth which I'm working on).

Online play is good but its only fun playing non-ranked matches because losing doesn't have as many consequences so people experiment with what characters they choose. In ranked matches you will be facing Ken 90% of the time, no exaggeration. At least in non-ranked matches you'll get to fight a Dhalsim and E.Honda here and there. Its a damn shame that this had to happen and I blame Capcom for this. I only play with friends anyway so it doesn't bother me too much.

[Rase]

Finally got a chance to play a little at a demo with a friend for two fights. Tried out El Fuerte and got my ass kicked by his Blanka because I had no clue what I was doing, then switched to Guile and beat his Zangief. All in all it was very fun and I can't wait to play it some more.

Also, that middle sentence read alone and with no clue who the characters are makes it sound like I'm talking about Pokemon, which is also awesome.

[Lionx]

Only thing so far is that i cant seem to do meaty attacks as well in this game...

Ken Strats:

[Wolf Kanno]

Finally got in a little game time with this title. Some moves feel really slow and its interesting how it feels like a few characters have been reset to the original SFII move set but overall it was pretty fun. Viper is a cheating bitch...

Viper: Hi, I'm Viper! I play like a mix of Kyo and Iori from KoF, two of the most broken characters in that title. Have a nice day

Overall, it was really fun. The backgrounds are truly gorgeous but the game doesn't seem to flow as fluently as I had hoped. Still fun and hoping to relearn a few people.

[Depression Moon]

YouTube - Street Fighter 4 Online Match #1 - Sakura(Me) vs C. Viper

This is a great vid.
Man, C. Viper should have whooped his ass! He fought well though. I reallly need to get this.

[Lionx]

YouTube - SF4 match 27092008 - Dhalsim vs C.Viper [gamechariot.com]
YouTube - SFIV - ��ゅん [C.Viper]ー] vs ドドリア�ん [Sagat]

Viper is alot better than people think...keep an eye on her, Japanese people rated her garbage at first to top tier now.

Which version are you getting DepressionMoon?

[Markus. D]

I had a dream I was VSing Roogle.

I was Rose and he was, I forget what he was.

But anyways! it ended up with me doing a normal throw, following up with a focus attack and a Reflect combo to finish him off.

Me: Rose is so kewl! I love Rose!
Roo: No, I love Rose, you two are just good friends.

I woke up all laugh-ish... this game is consuming me, bah!

[Depression Moon]

YouTube - SF4 match 27092008 - Dhalsim vs C.Viper [gamechariot.com]
YouTube - SFIV - ��ゅん [C.Viper]ー] vs ドドリア�ん [Sagat]

Viper is alot better than people think...keep an eye on her, Japanese people rated her garbage at first to top tier now.

Which version are you getting DepressionMoon?

PS3 and I'm ticked off at this game. I finally have a PS3 now and I can barely read the words on the screen. Everything is all sharp and bright. The words are too small as well. Capcom lied when they said it's for both casual and hardcore audiences. I've been losing to Seth about 20 times on the easiest difficulty. I can't seem to get my special move inputs right either. I could swear I'm doing what I can barely read on the screen (Kikoken) and it's not doing it. I'm like a master of Tekken and Smash, but I fail so badly at this.

[Roogle]

I had a dream I was VSing Roogle.

I was Rose and he was, I forget what he was.

But anyways! it ended up with me doing a normal throw, following up with a focus attack and a Reflect combo to finish him off.

Me: Rose is so kewl! I love Rose!
Roo: No, I love Rose, you two are just good friends.

I woke up all laugh-ish... this game is consuming me, bah!

It is always nice to dream. I don't know how to play any other character besides Rose in the whole series, though.

[Lionx]

PS3 and I'm ticked off at this game. I finally have a PS3 now and I can barely read the words on the screen. Everything is all sharp and bright. The words are too small as well. Capcom lied when they said it's for both casual and hardcore audiences. I've been losing to Seth about 20 times on the easiest difficulty. I can't seem to get my special move inputs right either. I could swear I'm doing what I can barely read on the screen (Kikoken) and it's not doing it. I'm like a master of Tekken and Smash, but I fail so badly at this.

Lol damn feels like i am the only one getting it for PC...

What kind of TV are you using? If its not HDTV, you might have to adjust some of the settings.

Seth isnt that hard once you understand his tendencies...its hard to say, but he is much easier than say Gill or ST Akuma/Bison. Just use safer moves with less delay and he cant do most of his shannegians. Anti Airing jumps with him is a good guaranteed way to ensure damage too.

Try doing Challenge Mode and see how it goes...if you are using a pad it can be much harder to do inputs. I notice i cant do light punches into flash kick for Guile on a pad but i can on a stick...wtf?

[Madame Adequate]

PS3 and I'm ticked off at this game. I finally have a PS3 now and I can barely read the words on the screen. Everything is all sharp and bright. The words are too small as well. Capcom lied when they said it's for both casual and hardcore audiences. I've been losing to Seth about 20 times on the easiest difficulty. I can't seem to get my special move inputs right either. I could swear I'm doing what I can barely read on the screen (Kikoken) and it's not doing it. I'm like a master of Tekken and Smash, but I fail so badly at this.

Nah, that's nothing to do with casual/hardcore and everything to do with Capcom making a game which really harks back to the 90s. Including cheap-as-smurf last bosses