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Yeah, but I didn't really care about her, Anna was never dead, she was in every Tekken game 1,2,3,Tag,4, and 5 Anna just shared all of Nina's moves before 5 and I think use select her in the same place as Nina, but you had to press a certain button. As for Tekken 5 what did you think about everyone's extra costumes, most of them are weird especially Xiaoyu's pig costume, but Law's the best!Quote:
Originally Posted by Mo-Nercy
Hwang, Cervantes, Seung (sp?) Mina, Mitsurugi, Siegfried, Rock, and Mr. Fire Man are also in the game. Also, I'm not sure if this would count as a totally seperate character, (SPOILER)but Siegfried's evil form also appears in the Soul Calibur games after Soul Blade, under the name of "Nightmare".Quote:
Originally Posted by Ozmoid
SCII/SCIII. I shred with Astaroth.
Now that I've thought about it. Anna WAS in 3, but not in 4. Which came after Ogre, so I guess she never did die. My bad =DQuote:
Originally Posted by Ashley Schovitz'
But Anna and Nina were already very different characters since TTT, I'm not sure about 2 and 3 since I was noob then. In T5, they play similar styles. Poking pressure, high-low mixups (d+4,1~SS -> mixup pwns me). But what makes Nina a better character than Anna (at least in 5. In 5.1 and DR, Nina was given a good nerfin') is that she has really safe launchers (as opposed to Anna's really not-safe launchers [except for CH QCF+1, which DOES need Counter Hit so.. =(]). Anna also needs a wall to capitalise on damage and her better juggles are harder to do.
In the end, I prefer using Anna because I like her personality more. :D She reminds of Ivy, one of my favourite SC2 characters (thought I can't use her at all in SC3 =[) You can even customise Anna to look like Ivy.
In response to the post above. I used to think Astaroth was the most useless character. Some good mixups but he's so damn slow that you can spot them and GI almost every time. But I've recently seen some good Astaroth vids and I gotta say =O. That beast is beasty in the right hands.
Also, Nightmare and Siegfried count as seperate characters. In SC3, they have different movelists and storyline wise, Nightmare isn't even Siegfried anymore, just a living suit of armour... I think. I'll have to ask roto to confirm.
Anna and Nina's ending in Tekken 5 features music and a location from Soul Calibur 3. Namco has little crossovers between lots of games.
Siegfried/Nightmare in a nutshell:Quote:
Originally Posted by Mo-Nercy
At the end of Soul Blade, Siegfried finds Soul Edge and turns into Nightmare.
In SC I, Nightmare's ending shows him regaining his mind and becoming Siegfried again. Siegfried's SC I story comes after Nightmare's SC I story. Siegfried's movelist differs slightly from Nightmare's in this game.
In SC II, Siegfried has lost control and become Nightmare again. Siegfried is only playable as a costume for Nightmare, so he's not technically in the game at all.
In SC III, Raphael somehow manages to damage Soul Edge and free Siegfried's mind. Soul Calibur appears and Sigfried thrusts it into Soul Edge as a way to neutralize it until he can destroy it, then he leaves with both swords. Zasalamel finds the place where the battle took place and finds Nightmare's armour. He senses that Soul Edge's spirit has clung to the armour, and decides to give it a body. This creates the new Nightmare. In SC III Nightmare and Siegfried are seperate characters alltogether. They have different movelists. Nightmare doesn't even use Soul Edge any more. It uses a mock version it pulled out of it's ass.
On a side note, since the new Nightmare is the spirit of Soul Edge, you could say he's Inferno.
So, yes, you are correct. :)
Yeah, SC2 had a badass Nightmare. Beyond imba when it came to playing noobs. SOUL CHARGE -> 66B. Repeat. YOU WIN. =X
Sucks how SC3 doesn't let you move and soul charge. It used to be a big part of my game to scare them into doing nothing (Cassies 236B punishs/interrupts just about everything if they try to go toe-to-toe) and while they were at a loss as to how to come at me I'd just back away and soul charge to level 2 or 3 and just run back into 'em with 66BB mixed up with the low slide. If they're steppy, then I'll stop and horizontal mixup between AK and 1A.
Aren't SC and Tekken supposed to be chronologically linked, anyways? I mean once Yoshimitsu appeared in SC I thought they pretty much just sort of operate under the notion that SC will (very eventually) become Tekken's world.Quote:
Originally Posted by JKTrix
The Yoshimitsu discussion started on the 1st page :P
I'm pretty sure you can still move+charge in SC3, though I haven't played it in a while. I know you move a lot slower, but you can still run.
Namco has cameos in all sorts of seemingly unrelated games. There's the KOS-MOS costume in SC3. There's a whole character in Ace Combat 5 who looks to be related to the Ridge Racer girl. In fact, in one of the last levels of Ace5, there are cars from Ridge Racer there. You can probably find a Pac Man icon hidden somewhere in every game. My friend Saku could probably list a lot more.
No, I agree that Namco cameos a lot (I mean a LOT. ToD2 is rife with them, as are most of the tales series games). I'm just saying that a nod to SC in Tekken is slightly different in that they are chronologically linked (Considers Olcadan appearing in Tekken, chuckles), and so a future character appearing in a place that existed in the past is just kinda par for course.
I have three questions about the story with Tekken, Roto probably knows as he seems to be a videogame history expert. In the begginning of Tekken 5, when Heihachi and Kazuya are fighting the Jacks, what's going on, why are they fighting them and where did they come from?
Question 2. In Tekken who was officially head of the Mishima corp, was it Heihachi? In Tekken 5 I believe I heard Lee mention something that Kazuya stole his position
Question 3. Whatever happened to Jun, I never owned Tekken 2, but I did play it, as I had heard that Jun is Jin's mother then what's Asuka's relationship to him, a cousin?
Sorry Ashley, I'm not a big Tekken fan so I haven't really know the storyline. I wrote an entire FAQ about the Soul Calibur storyline, but Tekken isn't really my forte.
Question 1: That takes place after the tournament. The Jacks were sent from someone (I forgot who, I think Raven or something), and Kazuya tricks Heihachi. He leaves them there to kill him and then Kazuya morphs into Devil form and flies away.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ashley Schovitz'
Question 2: Heihachi was the head for Tekken 1, and then at the end Kazuya took his place, and then I think that Heihachi regained his position at the end of Tekken 2. Heihachi is still the champion I think at the end of 3, and at 4, Kazuya is alive and opens some whoop ass on the Tekken Force.
Question 3: Jun died. Yes, she is Jin's mother and Kazuya is his father. Asuka is related, I think it is either his cousin, sister, or his aunt or something. I forget.
Why would he slice his own Jack in half? o_OQuote:
Originally Posted by Genji
I'm quite positive she's Jin's cousin. o.o Sister wouldn't make sense, as then she would have undoubtedly known who Jin was in her ending in Tekken 5, and not refer to him as "you" and "pervert". Aunt wouldn't be quite right either, as she is teh hawtz. So yes, cousin.Quote:
Question 3: Jun died. Yes, she is Jin's mother and Kazuya is his father. Asuka is related, I think it is either his cousin, sister, or his aunt or something. I forget.
1: G Corporation. The company that has always been credited with Jack development. G Corporation is considered the rival company to the Mishima Zaibatsu.Quote:
Originally Posted by GenjiQuestion 1: That takes place after the tournament. The Jacks were sent from someone (I forgot who, I think Raven or something), and Kazuya tricks Heihachi. He leaves them there to kill him and then Kazuya morphs into Devil form and flies away.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ashley Schovitz'
Question 2: Heihachi was the head for Tekken 1, and then at the end Kazuya took his place, and then I think that Heihachi regained his position at the end of Tekken 2. Heihachi is still the champion I think at the end of 3, and at 4, Kazuya is alive and opens some whoop ass on the Tekken Force.
Question 3: Jun died. Yes, she is Jin's mother and Kazuya is his father. Asuka is related, I think it is either his cousin, sister, or his aunt or something. I forget.
2: In the original Tekken, Heihachi was on top. Chronologically, Jinpachi was the boss before the first game was released but we don't find that out till much much later. Kazuya defeats Heihachi in Tekken 1.
Kazuya is now the head of the company in Tekken 2. Heihachi comes back and defeats him and gets it back.
After Tekken 3, Heihachi remains at the head of the company but technically, Heihachi wasn't champion of Tekken 3. Paul defeated Ogre but left before the final transformation into True Ogre was made. Jin then proceeded to defeat True Ogre and win the tournament. Heihachi betrays Jin here and Jin decides to fly away to Australia, now that he's aware of his devil form, to unlearn his Mishima-style karate. Because Jin left, the result of the tournament became void and Heihachi stayed through Tekken 4.
Tekken 4's ending is well documented in the intro to 5. Jin had both Kazuya and Heihachi at his feet but a sudden wave of compassion overcame him and he left before finishing off either of them. Suddenly, dozens of Jacks are shot at them... etc. etc.
In Tekken 5, neither Heihachi or Kazuya are in power. Jinpachi, after being freed from his prison in Honmaru (when the place exploded in Jacky goodness) somehow managed to organise the Zaibatsu and announce a tournament. I guess nobody found it weird that Heihachi's father was buried underneath an ancient temple for half a century.
As for Lee's ending, Kazuya clearly states that Lee is a tool and doesn't know what's going on, which is true. Lee was wrong about Kazuya getting to the Mishima Zaibatsu. Jinpachi beat everyone to it.
3: Jun is Jin's mother. She died to Ogre before Tekken 3. Asuka's father, also a master of Kazama Style Self Defense, is Jun's brother. Thus, Jin and Asuka are cousins.