Game of Thrones: House of the Dragon!

Regarding Dany's intelligence:When, except for her purchase of the Unsullied, has Dany ever won anything by virtue of deception or intellect? She spends a great deal more time stubbornly defending the less fortunate at her own expense and making decisions based on emotional outbursts. Each book she appears in so far features a story arch in which she spends several chapters passively letting others plot and scheme around her, until she screws up and gets stuck in a bind, and then somehow manages to fix that mistake because DRAGONS.

Until A Dance with Dragons, I had begun to believe that the justification for Dany's one-track-mindedness had been because she, like her father before her, was mad, and the only reason the reader didn't know it was because she had not featured in any chapter except those from her own point of view. Then we got some POV chapters from characters who have interacted with her, and none of them suggested anything of the sort.

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Regarding Dany's intelligence:When, except for her purchase of the Unsullied, has Dany ever won anything by virtue of deception or intellect? She spends a great deal more time stubbornly defending the less fortunate at her own expense and making decisions based on emotional outbursts. Each book she appears in so far features a story arch in which she spends several chapters passively letting others plot and scheme around her, until she screws up and gets stuck in a bind, and then somehow manages to fix that mistake because DRAGONS.

Until A Dance with Dragons, I had begun to believe that the justification for Dany's one-track-mindedness had been because she, like her father before her, was mad, and the only reason the reader didn't know it was because she had not featured in any chapter except those from her own point of view. Then we got some POV chapters from characters who have interacted with her, and none of them suggested anything of the sort.

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Dany's an entitled little brat. And often her pride of "helping people" outweighs actually helping people.

I'm not entirely sure where all this is coming from, but Dany is still basically a child. Not all of the kids can grow up like Arya. :p

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I'm not entirely sure where all this is coming from, but Dany is still basically a child. Not all of the kids can grow up like Arya. :p

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First off, Arya makes some stupid decisions. I wouldn't really call her grown up and mature, rather than just being thrust into some tough situations.

Secondly, Dany is a terrible character.

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Regarding Dany's intelligence:When, except for her purchase of the Unsullied, has Dany ever won anything by virtue of deception or intellect? She spends a great deal more time stubbornly defending the less fortunate at her own expense and making decisions based on emotional outbursts. Each book she appears in so far features a story arch in which she spends several chapters passively letting others plot and scheme around her, until she screws up and gets stuck in a bind, and then somehow manages to fix that mistake because DRAGONS.

Until A Dance with Dragons, I had begun to believe that the justification for Dany's one-track-mindedness had been because she, like her father before her, was mad, and the only reason the reader didn't know it was because she had not featured in any chapter except those from her own point of view. Then we got some POV chapters from characters who have interacted with her, and none of them suggested anything of the sort.

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(SPOILER)When she treated with the sellsword captains to discern which could turn the battle in her favor, then caught the Yunkish enemy unawares (much like Robb did at the forks). Then she utilized her sellswords' experience again by having them infiltrate Meereen and capture the city in a ridiculously short amount of time. I think it was noted how fast she pulled it off and how relatively little looting/rioting there was in its wake. She's actually been a pretty good strategist in A Storm of Swords. Going back to AGoT, she also won over the Khalasar and was accepted as one of their own (of course she didn't understand that most would leave once Drogo did). In A Clash of Kings she was also able to bring everyone out of the Red Waste by utilizing her bloodriders in the way most likely to bring about success. I know A Dance with Dragons makes it kind of tough to get through her sitting around and waiting, but I think marrying Hizdahr might've actually been the best move if it wasn't for the Drogon incident. I really don't think he's the Harpy.

I actually think you might be right about your second point, though. IMO she's being built up as the series antagonist because almost everything she's done has lead to the death and suffering of a huge amount of people.

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I'm not entirely sure where all this is coming from, but Dany is still basically a child. Not all of the kids can grow up like Arya. :p

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First off, Arya makes some stupid decisions. I wouldn't really call her grown up and mature, rather than just being thrust into some tough situations.

Secondly, Dany is a terrible character.

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Of course she does, she starts the series when she's like 9. :p

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I'm not entirely sure where all this is coming from, but Dany is still basically a child. Not all of the kids can grow up like Arya. :p

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First off, Arya makes some stupid decisions. I wouldn't really call her grown up and mature, rather than just being thrust into some tough situations.

Secondly, Dany is a terrible character.

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Of course she does, she starts the series when she's like 9. :p

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Yes, I know all of this.

I'm saying, that Arya is often treated like she's perfect and makes no mistakes, and that's not the case. Even in the later books.

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I'm not entirely sure where all this is coming from, but Dany is still basically a child. Not all of the kids can grow up like Arya. :p

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First off, Arya makes some stupid decisions. I wouldn't really call her grown up and mature, rather than just being thrust into some tough situations.

Secondly, Dany is a terrible character.

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Of course she does, she starts the series when she's like 9. :p

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Yes, I know all of this.

I'm saying, that Arya is often treated like she's perfect and makes no mistakes, and that's not the case. Even in the later books.

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Everyone in the series makes mistakes. o_O She's at least less stupid than Dany, who is older.

LAY OFF ARYA SHES THE BEST

12-second teaser for another teaser lol

EDIT: The actual teaser/trailer

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The problem is that Dany is the one putting herself in these situations. She brings competent people to her cause by virtue of her heritage and dragons alone. She's the one who decided to cross the Red Wastes with a company of weak and elderly without direction. It was smart to use her bloodriders as scouts, but you can't neglect that she put herself in that situation in the first place. Each victory credits a defeat: she did not properly understand her role in the Khalasar, and so was put in a terrible situation due to it. (SPOILER)When she sacked Astapor, she left it in a state where it very quickly degenerated into a civil war until it was conquered by her enemies. Dany's best moments only come when she's put herself in a really bad situation and manages to dig herself (or, often, have someone else dig her) out.

She's making really complicated decisions though. And, yeah, she's surrounded by competent people, but very few of them are trustworthy--most are just out for their own power.

For a teenage girl who spent her whole life in hiding and being told her bitchbaby brother is The Dragon, I think she's doing very well. Give a girl some credit! For most of ADWD she's sitting in one place trying to move carefully, but damn if none of her options don't have really troutty consequences.

46 screenshots from the trailer

Oh man oh man oh man oh man oh man.

I can't wait for

(SPOILER)"What I want..."

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"... is Casterly Rock."

This season's trailer wasn't as interesting to me as last seasons. I dunno why. Maybe it's cause i know they are splitting this season up. I'm curious as to where they'll leave it off

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She's making really complicated decisions though. And, yeah, she's surrounded by competent people, but very few of them are trustworthy--most are just out for their own power.

For a teenage girl who spent her whole life in hiding and being told her bitchbaby brother is The Dragon, I think she's doing very well. Give a girl some credit! For most of ADWD she's sitting in one place trying to move carefully, but damn if none of her options don't have really troutty consequences.

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I agree with this assessment.

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What castle is this, anyone have an idea?

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HE LOOKS LIKE VOLDEMORT

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These must be the Unsullied, right? Awesome, can't wait to see them!

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Damn, can't believe we're getting that far already! I feel like all this stuff happens much later, but I'm excited to see it will be covered.

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Jon looks more and more like a sad puppy with every season. Is he howling in this? I hope he's howling.

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(SPOILER)I'm going to be surprised if they get to that scene this season. As far as I remember it was about two-thirds of the way through the book. On the other hand I suppose it's possible they'll screw with chronology and leave it as the cliffhanger for season four.

(SPOILER)There are so many places that the third season can stop as a cliff hanger. I am of the opinion that it will stop with Jon Snow's naming as the Lord Commander of the Night's Watch. It isn't as great of an ending as RW but I think it would be sufficient enough if done right. Though I'm not sure where each event falls into place in the book, since it has been awhile since I have read them. I am less concerned about following the books (individually, anyway) to the letter and more concerned about them making the series good.

The castle in the first picture is either Storm's End or Dragonstone. It looks like it could be either of them, since they have a lot in common. I'm guessing Dragonstone though.

I assumed it was Dragonstone.

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As did I.

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(SPOILER) Man, I REALLY hope we get to see RW this year. I think it'd make a pretty climatic cliff-ending. They could even end it where it looks like Arya is killed, like the chapter did in the book. She's a fan favourite, so hooo trout, people would be going crazy.

(SPOILER)I'm pretty sure RW is going to make it into the season, but toward the end. GRRM's and the showrunners' interviews indicated that much.

I feel very morbid for saying this, but I'd want the season to end with them putting Grey Wind's head on Robb's body. Send the viewers off with even more trauma and tears.

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(SPOILER)I'm pretty sure RW is going to make it into the season, but toward the end. GRRM's and the showrunners' interviews indicated that much.

I feel very morbid for saying this, but I'd want the season to end with them putting Grey Wind's head on Robb's body. Send the viewers off with even more trauma and tears.

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(SPOILER) If we don't see Robb's penis before he dies, I will be a very unhappy Samantha.

(SPOILER)Given that Jon becomes Lord Commander in his very last chapter, I find ending the season there unlikely. I imagine the last we'll see of Jon Snow this season is when he escapes from the Wildlings south of the Wall. If they pass up the opportunity to end this season with the Red Wedding, I'll be stunned.

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(SPOILER)Given that Jon becomes Lord Commander in his very last chapter, I find ending the season there unlikely. I imagine the last we'll see of Jon Snow this season is when he escapes from the Wildlings south of the Wall. If they pass up the opportunity to end this season with the Red Wedding, I'll be stunned.

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(SPOILER) I think it'd be one hell of an ending. Since there's a good portion of people who watch the show that do not read the books, I can just imagine Reddit now...

So many things I must resist clicking on...

http://vocaroo.com/i/s1Tj2f81L9ax

Got bored, and I'm so psyched about GoT right now, I recorded myself singing Rains of Castamere acapella.

Yes, I know the sound quality is trout and no, I don't know how to turn my mic down. :( fu, windows 8

I'll attempt to repair as much of the distortion as possible, hang on :monster:

Edit: Here, the sound quality is still trout but it's marginally less trout than it was. It sounds like some of the fault is in the microphone itself because there is a rumbling that appears to be a result of there being too much sound for the microphone to handle, but maybe turning the volume down will help. See if this is helpful for changing mic levels.

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(SPOILER)Given that Jon becomes Lord Commander in his very last chapter, I find ending the season there unlikely. I imagine the last we'll see of Jon Snow this season is when he escapes from the Wildlings south of the Wall. If they pass up the opportunity to end this season with the Red Wedding, I'll be stunned.

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(SPOILER) I think it'd be one hell of an ending. Since there's a good portion of people who watch the show that do not read the books, I can just imagine Reddit now...

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(SPOILER)Whenever I find out that somebody is reading A Song of Ice and Fire, I start saying "Red Wedding," without explaining any of it. My friend did this to me when I was first reading the series in high school, and even knowing that something big was going to happen, my mind damn near exploded. I saw it coming, I knew that as soon as Robb named Jon his heir that he wouldn't be around much longer. But damn. God damn.

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(SPOILER)Given that Jon becomes Lord Commander in his very last chapter, I find ending the season there unlikely. I imagine the last we'll see of Jon Snow this season is when he escapes from the Wildlings south of the Wall. If they pass up the opportunity to end this season with the Red Wedding, I'll be stunned.

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(SPOILER) I think it'd be one hell of an ending. Since there's a good portion of people who watch the show that do not read the books, I can just imagine Reddit now...

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(SPOILER)Whenever I find out that somebody is reading A Song of Ice and Fire, I start saying "Red Wedding," without explaining any of it. My friend did this to me when I was first reading the series in high school, and even knowing that something big was going to happen, my mind damn near exploded. I saw it coming, I knew that as soon as Robb named Jon his heir that he wouldn't be around much longer. But damn. God damn.

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My cover photo on FB (SPOILER)is currently Red Wedding-related and I plan on keeping it until someone notices... ESPECIALLY the TV-only people. :mwahaha:

With Jiro being inactive, my inability to grasp anyone's suggestion of me being Janos Slynt and an immense dis-satisfaction with being a ginger arsehole (no offense ginger people but it's an observation) like Theon Greyjoy. I'm going to take Jiro's place as the Bastard Jon Snow. It makes more sense with me as him anyhow because I am after all an actual bastard.

Steve, you are so not a Jon Snow. :mad2: Also this is the wrong thread dorkface.

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Steve, you are so not a Jon Snow. :mad2: Also this is the wrong thread dorkface.

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I think Steve is Roose Bolton, *snip*

A wee bit inappropriate. ~Pike

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Steve, you are so not a Jon Snow. :mad2: Also this is the wrong thread dorkface.

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I think Steve is totally awesome.

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Cheers dumbo I got confused with the two threads... there was a reason I was posting in this thread though. Yes! That's it:

The castle in the picture people were debating earlier? That would be one of two places, neither are Dragonstone.

First option (and possibly the most likely answer) Storms End. Second option is it's Casterly Rock. It's too early for (SPOILER)Littlefinger's Castle if I recall correctly.


*snip*

That's two in less than ten minutes. See what happens if you go for three. ~Shorty

Let's stop throwing around insults shall we! Even if they are just in jest. :monkey:

I missed what went on. :(

I feel like I need to sign on once every ten minutes so I don't miss flamewars before they get edited out :(

I know, right? Damn shame, missing all the action.

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With Jiro being inactive, my inability to grasp anyone's suggestion of me being Janos Slynt and an immense dis-satisfaction with being a ginger arsehole (no offense ginger people but it's an observation) like Theon Greyjoy. I'm going to take Jiro's place as the Bastard Jon Snow. It makes more sense with me as him anyhow because I am after all an actual bastard.

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If you end up being Jon Snow i smurfing resign. You're Janos Slynt. Drop the ego and run with it

The ego kind of solidifies it though, doesn't it?

Yeah, if anyone is absolutely and undeniably Janos Slynt, it's Janos Slynt. He thought himself well above his station too. ;)

Oh, tits. Wrong thread. Damn it, Cuch. xD

Steve isn't Janos Slynt for the sole factor that Janos Slynt knows how to be quiet.

Finally finished season 2! Cannot wait for (SPOILER)the weddings!

I just looked up the episode titles for Season 3, and OMG THE (SPOILER)TITLE FOR EPISODE 9 IS "THE RAINS OF CASTAMERE." IF YOU WERE DOUBTING WHEN THE RED WEDDING WILL BE SHOWING UP THIS SEASON, NO NEED TO WONDER ANY MORE.

/fangirled

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I just looked up the episode titles for Season 3, and OMG THE (SPOILER)TITLE FOR EPISODE 9 IS "THE RAINS OF CASTAMERE." IF YOU WERE DOUBTING WHEN THE RED WEDDING WILL BE SHOWING UP THIS SEASON, NO NEED TO WONDER ANY MORE.

/fangirled

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I'm excited beyond words :excited:

It's also Season 3's GRRM-written episode; the old name was pretty ambiguous but now I suppose it's crystal clear what it's about.

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I just looked up the episode titles for Season 3, and OMG THE (SPOILER)TITLE FOR EPISODE 9 IS "THE RAINS OF CASTAMERE." IF YOU WERE DOUBTING WHEN THE RED WEDDING WILL BE SHOWING UP THIS SEASON, NO NEED TO WONDER ANY MORE.

/fangirled

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(SPOILER)I have never been so excited for the oncoming outrage as I am right now.

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Red Wedding, more than meets the eye
Red Wedding, murder in disguise

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I just looked up the episode titles for Season 3, and OMG THE (SPOILER)TITLE FOR EPISODE 9 IS "THE RAINS OF CASTAMERE." IF YOU WERE DOUBTING WHEN THE RED WEDDING WILL BE SHOWING UP THIS SEASON, NO NEED TO WONDER ANY MORE.

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I am feeling so many feelings.

I don't think the final episode titles have been officially released (according to GRRM's last LJ entry), but still. Good news.

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I just looked up the episode titles for Season 3, and OMG THE (SPOILER)TITLE FOR EPISODE 9 IS "THE RAINS OF CASTAMERE." IF YOU WERE DOUBTING WHEN THE RED WEDDING WILL BE SHOWING UP THIS SEASON, NO NEED TO WONDER ANY MORE.

/fangirled

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(SPOILER)I have never been so excited for the oncoming outrage as I am right now.

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This is what I'm most looking forward to as well! I might actually have to get on Reddit just for this.

Can't resist skimming spoiler tags...(SPOILER)Goddamnit what is all this wedding talk. I HAVE NO IDEA WHAT IT MEANS BUT I'M STOKED.

Hey you, Forum Lurker. You check out this badass Jaime Character poster. You check it out REALLLL good.

https://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphot...04902896_n.jpg

You want to see more? Well lurker, you take your happy behind here. You are welcome lurkers of eoff.

(SPOILER) ho trout, i just realized we'll probably get to see him lose his hand this season?

Those posters.... <3

@TB: (SPOILER)I'm pretty sure. I also expect Brienne stuff. :D :D

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(SPOILER) ho trout, i just realized we'll probably get to see him lose his hand this season?

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If you really wanna know

(SPOILER)Yes, since George indirectly confirmed the Bear Pit will be happening this season (and that's after he lost his hand).

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(SPOILER) ho trout, i just realized we'll probably get to see him lose his hand this season?

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(SPOILER)Probably not gonna see him lose his hair though. :(

I'd just like to take a moment to thank Freya for always posting this trout. Even though I see pretty much all of it in /r/gameofthrones or GRRM's LJ, seeing it again is exciting all over again.

Some people arent as fangirlish as us so I feel I should share heh.

Too many spoiler posts arghhhh!

Also is this season only going to be half of Storm of Swords? So if I read the book while watching the season like I did for the first two I'd have to wait a whole other year to finish it?

Supposedly. It kind of makes sense - my copy of Storm of Swords is in two parts, and each part is about as thick as the previous books.

It's not as long as the previous two books combined, but a lot more happens in it, because Martin doesn't have to spend as much time introducing new characters. So yeah, I can see why they'd need two whole seasons to tell it. However, judging from the episode titles it doesn't look like they're going to stop halfway through the book, or else they're going to move some material around. Some of the material appears to come from more than halfway through.

I'm assuming they are not just going book by book now. Last season had stuff from SoS. Since the way the further books are written they all kinda happen at the same time just well different books. So I can see how the season's aren't so much book by book anymore but event by event. So two seasons for one "book" sounds more realistic. This season will have stuff from the future books as well as SoS which gives credence for the need for more seasons.

Yeah, I think they're trying to make the events as chronological as possible. The events in the books weren't always chronological.

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Also is this season only going to be half of Storm of Swords? So if I read the book while watching the season like I did for the first two I'd have to wait a whole other year to finish it?

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They're actually going to show things that happen/are explained in A Dance with Dragons, so as others suggested, the book to show chronology has pretty much come and gone. It might be a good idea to start introducing some of the minor POV characters who have significance at this point to cut down on how many roles you have like having

(SPOILER)Oberyn bring Arianne with him instead of Ellaria Sand.

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Re-pasted the link. If anything, F5, I guess. D:

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You have to exclude the entire URL up to and including v=. :monster: Also it looks like they may have disabled embedding for this video.

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Too many spoiler posts arghhhh!

Also is this season only going to be half of Storm of Swords? So if I read the book while watching the season like I did for the first two I'd have to wait a whole other year to finish it?

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They're going to start mixing up the storyline a lot more this season. They started this last season, but they said this season they'll continue to move Jaime's storyline up. I don't remember exactly what else they mix around. Assuming you're more concerned about the book spoiling the show than vice versa, I don't imagine it'd be a problem to read along with the season.

^Sick cover.

OMG THE BEAR PIT

Also, hey! Dany's hair doesn't look like trout this season.

Is that Florence + the Machine? What song is that?

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OMG THE BEAR PIT

Also, hey! Dany's hair doesn't look like trout this season.

Is that Florence + the Machine? What song is that?

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MS MR - "Bones" :3

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OMG THE BEAR PIT

Also, hey! Dany's hair doesn't look like trout this season.

Is that Florence + the Machine? What song is that?

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MS MR - "Bones" :3

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I already found that, but thanks. :3

So according to Wikipedia, Martin is not the writer for The Rains of Castamere. And I'm too lazy to go back and see if someone mentioned it not being the case.

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So according to Wikipedia, Martin is not the writer for The Rains of Castamere. And I'm too lazy to go back and see if someone mentioned it not being the case.

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(SPOILER)I heard he wrote the Queenscrown episode, whichever one that is.

He wrote episode 7 this season, titledThe Bear and the Maiden Fair.

Yah he's said that the whole rains of castamere thing.... Was the hardest scene he wrote in the books so he didnt want to write it in the show too.

I'ma just post all the covers at once.



I like the dog.

Speaking of Rains of Castamere and covers.

Those videos... <3

And now, for some Game of Thrones face swaps.

I like the Dany/Drogo one. Also Ned in a dress. :love:

Haha, the Stannis Melisadre one made me laugh.

The Jon/Ygritte one didn't look that strange!

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The Jon/Ygritte one didn't look that strange!

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I know, right??


The Dany/Drogo one disturbed me, but they all cracked me up. XD

Yeah I had to look at the Jon/Ygritte one for awhile to be sure they actually swapped them.

The last one was the best one. Ned is so pretty.

Have a season two recap!

Discussion and stuffz.

I started my rewatch yesterday!

Hey, guys, guess wHAT THERE IS A NEW TEASER OUT THAT HAS SOME NEW FOOTAGE.

Having been bombarded by GoT references the entire month, and doing some own sceptical research over it, I must admit, I am at the very least intrigued over it.

I want to watch the first season anyway, to see if I will like it. The question is, how?

Torrents.

Torrents is your best way to watch for free. Unless you have money to shell over to buy the first season on Blu-Ray/DVD.

kat.ph. Go for it!

After openly mocking the whole GoT takeover of EoFF, I now must apologise. I watched the first episode, and it was a brilliant pilot! I'm very intrigued with Dany and the action in Essos. And I already have a softspot for Tyrion.

I shall report back after watching a few more episodes!

Dany is the most useless character, EVER.

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Dracarys.

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No.

Her dragons are what make her (barely) interesting.

She's an absolutely dire character.

Having only watched one episode, I do wish Dany had some backbone. It was sort of weird just seeing her look nervous scared for what seemed like forever (basically every scene she was in)

I'm very shocked at the amount of nudity in the programme though. I've never really seen a T.V series when there's so many breasts flying around :p

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Having only watched one episode, I do wish Dany had some backbone. It was sort of weird just seeing her look nervous scared for what seemed like forever (basically every scene she was in)

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She gets worse. She grows a backbone, but then she gets too big for her britches, and a lot of people end up getting hurt because of her pride.

Starting rewatch this week. Totally puttin it on the projector and gonna have the fireplace burnin

I don't think this trailer has been posted yet

This season looks soooo good.

Daario doesn't look like Daario, though. ;<

Yeah if this isn't the best season yet I'm going to be mightily pissed off. Judging from the source materials and the previews, it should be.

This is going to be the peak season, hoenstly.

Dunno, Season 4 is going to cover the end of Storm of Swords, which is arguably even more epic than the beginning, and we still don't know what the end of the story is going to be like. It could outdo Storm of Swords for all we know.

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You're right, he doesn't look like a clown.

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You're right, he doesn't look like a clown.

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Yeah, I never did understand why Dany was supposed to be so attracted to him.

Oh wait.

She's a smurfing idiot.

I'M SO EXCITED

Doing my rewatch, I think I understand why I hate Cersei's character design so much. Usually her hair is super messy, and her dresses look like she just got out of bed and wearing her nightgown. While I think that'd be the perfect look for this season on, Cersei's so controlling and together, I hate it. She'd definitely look put together (at least in my head.)

Yeah i havent been to a computer all weekend. Theres been 3 new trailers out. that includes the on just posted.

Currently on Season 1 Episode 4 of my first-ever watch guys. I probably won't make it to Season 3 in time, but never mind! I'll catch up eventually.

Can I just say how ingenious the title sequence is. I love it, with the little cogs whirring round King's Landing etc. I also like how the locations change as well, as the episodes move on.

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Hair super messy? What Cersei are you looking at? She's looked pristine through the entirety of these first two seasons.

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I find Cersei's hair to be sculpted from a block of hair. It's not messy in the slightest.

Seriously? Her hair has a ton of fly-aways and is sort of just messily thrown down.

Dude every time I look at her I smurfing hair I covet it. It is gorgeous and thick and full and beautiful and I love it.

I think it looks terrible and like she just crawled out of bed.

But hey, differing opinions. xD

EDIT: That's not her real hair.

I wish I looked like that when I crawled out of bed.

Unrelated to Cersei's hair, but lol this commercial:



So much GoT stuff coming out and I'm just having so many feels.

Also, the Hollywood premiere is tonight and there are pics/instagrams/tweets about it everywhere.

Have some clips!

I love how devoted to this show kc is <3

I may or not regularly check winteriscoming.net ...... :gator:


Also... their host for their interviews and stuff is Simone Boyce and she is also a host of gamestop tv that constantly plays at work so I really can't escape that girl... :shifty:

There is also a new school of thrones....

Who else caught the livestream of An Evening with Game of Thrones last night? :O

I am going to finish season two tonight. trout is gonna hit the fan and I can't wait for it.

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God damn I'm going to have to control myself everytime I see your posts now you have Rob Stark as your set.

I've just finished Season One! Gonna have to download Season Two at some point but if I'm quick, I might just catch up in time for Season Three. I essentially watched Episodes 6-10 right through in a marathon watch.

My main thoughts on the events of Season One:

I thought Dany was somewhat stupid letting that witch treat Drogo though. I mean, that witch's entire village got sacked, and she got raped. What better way to get revenge than using blood magic to cripple Drogo and kill Dany's unborn child?

I'm always unsure with Littlefinger.. One minute he's helping Eddard, the other minute he's turning on him. Who exactly does he serve?

I can't stand any of the Lannisters except for Tyrion. It's clear that they wanted to portray them mostly as just right antagonists. Jaime always looks smug, Cersei is often annoying and conspiring and Joffrey is a right bastard. Tyrion however, is just lovely with his sarcasm and wit. I always look forward to seeing his character and he's played very well.

I'm waiting for Theon to turn his back on the Starks. He appears loyal, but I can sense he will turn soon.

And that's about it. I feel I'm going to enjoy season two.

Littlefinger serves himself.

hoooooo boy, that Jaime Lannister is some hot business.

Theon is a trouthead and I want to punch him square in the back of the head.

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umph umph :smug:

goddamn right

For once, something we agree on. ;)

What are you talking about? We agree on many things.

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Here's my obligatory weekly GoT post about how I want to see Robb's penis this season.

For the record... School of Thrones needs to get Ebola.

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Contain yourself ladies.

You love it.

It really gets my motor running.

I've been rewatching the first two seasons for the second time this year and am almost through. Jaime and Brienne's relationship is one of my favorites. The way they band together while traveling to King's Landing is remarkable, and I love it.

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I love Jaime x Brienne! I look forward to more of their interactions this season. :love: I'm admittedly an even bigger Gendry x Arya fan... although the actors for the show are 10 years apart instead of ~5 like in the books. DDD:

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I believe that's exactly how you're supposed to feel. Could you imagine anyone liking Joffrey?

I went to the premiere event in San Francisco last night, which was pretty cool! Some of the cast were there, and it was in this swank theater.

I think the first episode of the season has the same problem S2's premiere does--to many stories to cover, not enough time--but it's solid, and the production values have definitely been bumped up. There's a great sense of scale in some establishing shots that I hope stays consistent throughout the season.

Also, my roommate took some pictures at the event with his fancy DSLR. Here's a link, but I'll post a couple of my faves.

We were sitting two rows behind the castmembers who came to the premiere.

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Oh
My
God


I can't even put into words how jealous of you I am.

you lucky mothersmurfer

WHAAAAAT. Jealous! *______*



Also, the Game of Thrones YouTube channel released another teaser. I don't think there's any new footage except for one bit, but here you go:




AND, the Evening with Game of Thrones panel that livestreamed last Tuesday (about 1.5 hours long):

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I went to the premiere event in San Francisco last night, which was pretty cool! Some of the cast were there, and it was in this swank theater.

I think the first episode of the season has the same problem S2's premiere does--to many stories to cover, not enough time--but it's solid, and the production values have definitely been bumped up. There's a great sense of scale in some establishing shots that I hope stays consistent throughout the season.

Also, my roommate took some pictures at the event with his fancy DSLR. Here's a link, but I'll post a couple of my faves.

We were sitting two rows behind the castmembers who came to the premiere.

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SAN FRANCISCO?!

WHAT THE smurf MAN

HELP A SISTER OUT

I HATE AND LOVE YOU AZAR. GIVE ME YOUR LIFE.

Wow, Sophie Turner is becoming a gorgeous woman. I wish I was that tall at 17 :(

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Oh damn

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I HATE AND LOVE YOU AZAR. GIVE ME YOUR LIFE.

Wow, Sophie Turner is becoming a gorgeous woman. I wish I was that tall at 17 :(

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The top of her is bigger than the bottom of her. she looks like toilet paper hanging out of a burst pipe.

Azar, if they do this in San Francisco next year and you don't tell us in advance I am going to smurfing murder you.

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The big premiere was actually in LA on Sunday or Monday, and then they did SF on Wednesday. You had to get invited, afaik. I somehow lucked my way onto a list. All I could take was a +1. :(

smurf your +1! I want to goooo!

I would probably actually travel to San Francisco if there were a realistic shot of it getting me into next season's première, at least assuming I could afford to do so. Alas, I can't afford to travel to San Francisco and there is no realistic chance of it getting me into next season's première.

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People have certainly been killed over reasons less substantial than attending the Game of Thrones première.

Obligatory hilarious tumblr blogs I stumbled across.

Texts from the Seven Kingdoms

Texts from Westeros

are there spoilers in there D:

I dunno. I can't recall reading any offhand but I haven't read the entirety of either blog either. All the source images are from the show and there isn't any actual text from the show so... there's that? But it's conceivable there could still be book spoilers in there, I guess.

Dude, Sarah.

Read the books.

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Okay, so I just finished season two. Gimme more.

Do you guys think anything in season 3 has the capacity to top Blackwater? In addition to being an incredible hour of television, I think it highlighted the show's biggest weakness--the way it jumps around from character to character really makes it difficult to tell a satisfying story arc within an episode. Most shows have an A plotline and a B plotline--maybe a C plotline--but for Game of Thrones it's probably at least four per normal episode. Blackwater's focus was so perfectly paced and gripping by comparison, and the finale was such a mess trying to wrap everything up after it.

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Do you guys think anything in season 3 has the capacity to top Blackwater? In addition to being an incredible hour of television, I think it highlighted the show's biggest weakness--the way it jumps around from character to character really makes it difficult to tell a satisfying story arc within an episode. Most shows have an A plotline and a B plotline--maybe a C plotline--but for Game of Thrones it's probably at least four per normal episode. Blackwater's focus was so perfectly paced and gripping by comparison, and the finale was such a mess trying to wrap everything up after it.

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Absolutely. Storm of Swords has the capacity to be two of the best seasons of television ever and has a wealth of entertaining and engaging plots to choose from. Furthermore, the entire reason the series was created was to get to a single scene in Storm of Swords. The entire goal of Beinoff and Weiss when they adapted the series was to get to season three.

Regarding the lack of the "plot A, plot B" that most series go by, I would argue that Game of Thrones goes by the same method, albeit in a less direct way. The story lines in Westeros could be seen as plot A, Dany's story is plot B, and perhaps the story Beyond the Wall would be plot C. I do not really think that the large cast is holding the series back in any way other than some people want more focus on individual characters and areas rather than the jumping around that is required for the show. I think that plagues viewers more than readers though, as the readers tend to have more experience with the characters and know how the story is going to flesh out moreso, so they are more forgiving because they know the larger plot.

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Knowing what's going to happen this season, absolutely. But even so, a lot of my favorite things from the show don't come from tight-knit episodes, it's scenes with good acting and emotion, like Robert's conversation with Cersei in season 1 or watching Alfie Allen bring Theon's descent to life in season 2.

Other HBO shows like The Wire and The Sopranos handled arguably more plot threads than Game of Thrones and were able to get better at it as time went on. I'm sure the show will do the same. They have to, or else the plot will implode on itself once the other character groups in A Feast for Crows and A Dance with Dragons are brought in.

If you're asking if there will be an episode that rivals the success that Blackwater formula, most definitely. That episode handled it the same way the book did - switching the perspectives from Sansa to Tyrion to Davos and back again. There's a few other segments like that which will probably be encapsuled in an episode, one of which from the upcoming book that George is reading right now at panels.

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BOOKS!

Seriously, even with the daunting number of pages, reading will go by quickly. You get absorbed.

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Oh, you sweet summer child...

Status update: I'm now rather deep into Season Two. I've watched Episode Four now, and very surprised by that Shadow creature birthed by the Red Priestess. Quite surprising, though I can piece together what's going to happen next...

Loving the second season so far, particularly the animosity between Yara and Theon. Despite being siblings, I enjoy the obvious ill feeling of each other.

I've lost abit of favour with The Wall segments. The whole segment at Caster's keep is slightly boring if you ask me. It's clear that the focus isn't on them, at least during the episodes I've watched. So far, Dany's storyline is also on a bit of a backburner too. I'm sure they will be refocused during the second half of the season.

Still, enjoying it.

Dany's storyline never recovers.

Also, Azar--

If this season and next season aren't the two best seasons, then the screenwriters/actors completely butchered the amazing source material they had to work with. You think Blackwater was good? You ain't seen nothin' yet.

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Dany's storyline never recovers.

Also, Azar--

If this season and next season aren't the two best seasons, then the screenwriters/actors completely butchered the amazing source material they had to work with. You think Blackwater was good? You ain't seen nothin' yet.

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I've read read all the books. I don't think the Blackwater is the pinnacle of the story, but it is far and away the best episode of the tv adaptation up to this point. I honestly think it's one of the best episodes of any TV series I've ever seen, period, up there with The Body from Buffy, The Constant from Lost, Deadwood or Rome at their best, etc. and I don't think any other episodes in season 1 or season 2 of GoT come close to that honor because, again, a lot of them don't work that well as standalone episodes.

There's a lot going into making Blackwater so good. Lena Headey really nailing Cersei, which she hadn't really done through a lot of the series. Peter Dinklage being amazing. The Hound coming forward as a deeper character than we get to see up to that point. Neil Marshall directing the episode. It's really, really well shot, the localized story gives scenes more time to play out and build up tension, and I dunno, someone's probably written an essay about all the ways that episode kinda dongs on the rest of the show.

I feel like (SPOILER)the Red Wedding is the only part of this season they could give similar treatment, and even then sticking on that one storyline for an hour might be too much.

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Yeah, it's the same kind of structure--there's just too much crammed into any given episode for major developments in any story, a lot of the time. And that's okay to an extent--it's expected to be a heavily serialized show, but other shots like Lost did a better job within that formula of still telling really satisfied contained stories with every episode. Honestly, I think Game of Thrones would be better suited to the House of Cards release format than a week-to-week schedule.

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Overall, book and show. I find her story dull, and it's only made worse by a terribly boring and idiotic character.

I forget if it was me and Ouch debating this, but she should be acting pretty deft in quite a few exciting situations this season.

Azar, that's one, I also think there's at least two more from this book, namely (SPOILER)the Purple Wedding and the Battle at the Wall (since Sam and Bran things happen at around the same time at the Wall). Granted, they'll both probably be at the end of next season, but I see the latter of the two having a similar Blackwater treatment, especially since they're showing things from Stannis and Melisandre's perspectives.

I'm on a similar page as Sam. I like Dany well enough, but her story is somewhat monotonous. My enjoyment comes from the anticipation of what I know will be happening - or at least what I predict will probably be happening - but I've grown a little tired of all the times he's cried wolf.

(SPOILER)bran's plot - didn't see enough of the show to say, prolly way better (sometimes FAR too rushed)

but would you guys concur bran's story REALLY lagged in like, books 2 and so on?

finally he's off to the wall (minor spoiler) but

why is it so protracted, the 3 eyed bird and the flying and jojen reed and meera (is something going to -happen- there?)

finally when the iron maidens or whatever showed up in their skiff militia tried to take over and roose was like 'no way!' at least the whelp (young maiden) tried to help

it's not helping i'm so on-again-off-again with this series.

we need bob ross to appear as Syrio Forel

at least i remembered HIS name, not even a huge character!

Vincent, this thread is about Season 3 of Game of Thrones. Anything that happens after Season 2 in the books (which means anything after Clash of Kings basically) should be put in spoiler tags, including speculation that involves knowledge of the later books. Please respect those who do not wish to read this information before seeing it happen on the show.

hmm for a second there i though you'd closed the thread

maybe we should have an alernative non-limited GoT thread wherein it is understood light spoilers can be made with impunity

(within reason)

just a thought.

You are free to make that topic but that is not what this topic is about.

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SEVEN DAYS.

(SPOILER)HOLY CRAP and a small clip of (SPOILER)RW is in there. I can't wait to sob my face off.

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hey, hey!

awesome, thanks fellas/gallers!

Only two more episodes to go for Season Two! Blackwater and Valar Morghulis. I'll save them for later.

Then after that, I've caught up! :D

You're in for a treat with the next episode.

Wildlings! Video for season 3! :D A few spoilers from the end of season 2 so avoid it formy!



But it's interesting to see some of the development of their camp from the production side as well as the actors opinions.

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... is it just me, or did this not make any sense at all? xD

Mance looks well cast.

It's just you. It makes sense.

He's basically saying they find food and then they eat that food.

I guess it isn't as common in your backwards country as it is in Freedomland.

Moar covery goodness

I just didn't get what the second part meant. The first part is pretty self-explanatory. No matter, though.

It means that they only eat if they go hunting/find food.

It means basically the same thing: it's a chiasmus, meant only to accentuate the idea of hunting or foraging for food through parallelism.

for the ladies

for the guys

and for the gays

I am just going to die from all these goddamn teasers. I mean, I could avoid them but I don't. :( Here's a new trailer. It's got dragons and a mention of "Ice and Fire." I hate you Game of thrones, look what you do to me.

They just keep putting them out, huh? This season is gonna hit such massive ratings.

Did you guys know that you can make your own arms?

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