P4 - Mafia XIX Game Thread - [Game Over] Mafia DOMINATION

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Originally Posted by [M] Kanji

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Originally Posted by [M] Rise

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Originally Posted by [M] Kanji

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Originally Posted by [M] Rise

I have a proposal to try and save a townsperson. I know Yukiko is mafia and that by letting her live another day we will lose more townies. So here is my proposal. Vote Yukiko tonight for the lynch. If she turns out mafia, I will gladly take the lynch tomorrow, if I survive the night. I'm hoping somebody sees the logic in this. I gain nothing and I am trying to save the town as much as possible.

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Wha? This kind of argument only works when it's the other way around. If you are wrong then you are willing to die, not if you are correct.

Also wrong or right, we need to go after the mafia, not to punish townies who were incorrect.

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My apologies. I meant if I was wrong then I will gladly take the lynch.

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Still, don't sacrifice yourself like that. You are better off alive and hunting for the mafia then dead and well, dead.

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And yet If you guys trusted me for this one suggestion we could finally make a dent in the mafia. One chance to change the game guys and this is it!

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Originally Posted by [M] Yukiko

Unless she is the mafia :shifty:

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At which pont I will be lynched. Win win.

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Originally Posted by [M] Yukiko

Unless she is the mafia :shifty:

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I highly doubt Rise is mafia. She is too willing to stand by her opinion. Mafia love to support whatever keeps them alive until the next day.

Like lynching somebody besides themselves? :shifty:

It could be a tactic she's using? But I'm standing by my vote. I'm just throwing that out there, I don't really this Rise is mafia...

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Originally Posted by [M] Yukiko

Like lynching somebody besides themselves? :shifty:

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But I'm offering myself as collateral. Something a mafia wouldn't do.

The shifty smiley means I'm joking :|

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Originally Posted by [M] Rise

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Originally Posted by [M] Yukiko

Like lynching somebody besides themselves? :shifty:

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But I'm offering myself as collateral. Something a mafia wouldn't do.

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Wouldn't they? It could be a good tactic. If Yukiko was a townie and we lynched her, then the Mafia would also get a free Nightkill out of it and we'd only get one Mafia.

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Originally Posted by [M] Rise

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Originally Posted by [M] Kou

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Originally Posted by [M] Kanji

Rise! Is there anone else you think is mafia?

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As of yet,not really. Its still possible that Mitsuo is but there is just no evidence at the moment. But I am sure Yukiko is mafia!

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You're sure she's mafia just because she reminds you of last game's Rukia?

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Not just that. Effortless swaying of the group mentality. She is the perfect Mafia.

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as would you be

But if Rise was mafia she would go after Hanako because the mafia don't care who is killed, as long as it's not mafia. Therefore Rise must be town.

Rise, you are on the list of people Kanji trusts compleatly.

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Originally Posted by [M] Mitsuo

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Originally Posted by [M] Rise

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Originally Posted by [M] Kou

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Originally Posted by [M] Rise

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Originally Posted by [M] Kanji

Rise! Is there anone else you think is mafia?

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As of yet,not really. Its still possible that Mitsuo is but there is just no evidence at the moment. But I am sure Yukiko is mafia!

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You're sure she's mafia just because she reminds you of last game's Rukia?

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Not just that. Effortless swaying of the group mentality. She is the perfect Mafia.

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as would you be

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How was your visit to your secret mafia forum? Did you enjoy plotting with your friends on how to kill Hanako? I bet you think you can trick Namatame to vote Rise tomorrow as well, and bandwagon your way to a victory.

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Originally Posted by [M] Namatame

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Originally Posted by [M] Rise

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Originally Posted by [M] Yukiko

Like lynching somebody besides themselves? :shifty:

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But I'm offering myself as collateral. Something a mafia wouldn't do.

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Wouldn't they? It could be a good tactic. If Yukiko was a townie and we lynched her, then the Mafia would also get a free Nightkill out of it and we'd only get one Mafia.

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But you are just as likely to kill another townie by lynching a randomer leading to the same results wxcept without the mafia being killed!

I don't know what to believe. Rise still hasn't given me a valid reason to believe her. Yukiko on the other hand has given me reason to be suspicious about her. But perhaps it's just Rise's strategy to frame Yukiko? Or she's trying to take attention away from Hanako by making bold accusations like that, and Kanji is also following her. Kashiwagi is with Yukiko. Dammit!

I won't follow this pattern of focusing on just two characters. The mafia is most likely higher in number than that. Last time there were 4. This time there's more players. We can't just focus on only 2 individuals anymore!

I'm equally suspicious on Nanako, Yukiko, Rise, Daidara , and Hanako.

The only one that I think is clean is Mitsuo. But that's still not conclusive.

I would like to point out that at this point only one player has escaped suspicion entirely, and that is Nanako, I am not even saying that we she lynch her, but she is right now the only person who has maintained innocence through the whole game

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Originally Posted by [M] Kanji

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Originally Posted by [M] Mitsuo

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Originally Posted by [M] Rise

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Originally Posted by [M] Kou

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Originally Posted by [M] Rise

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Originally Posted by [M] Kanji

Rise! Is there anone else you think is mafia?

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As of yet,not really. Its still possible that Mitsuo is but there is just no evidence at the moment. But I am sure Yukiko is mafia!

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You're sure she's mafia just because she reminds you of last game's Rukia?

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Not just that. Effortless swaying of the group mentality. She is the perfect Mafia.

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as would you be

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How was your visit to your secret mafia forum? Did you enjoy plotting with your friends on how to kill Hanako? I bet you think you can trick Namatame to vote Rise tomorrow as well, and bandwagon your way to a victory.

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Why the hell are you attacking me all the sudden!?!?

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Originally Posted by [M] Kou

I don't know what to believe. Rise still hasn't given me a valid reason to believe her. Yukiko on the other hand has given me reason to be suspicious about her. But perhaps it's just Rise's strategy to frame Yukiko? Or she's trying to take attention away from Hanako by making bold accusations like that, and Kanji is also following her. Kashiwagi is with Yukiko. Dammit!

I won't follow this pattern of focusing on just two characters. The mafia is most likely higher in number than that. Last time there were 4. This time there's more players. We can't just focus on only 2 individuals anymore!

I'm equally suspicious on Nanako, Yukiko, Rise, Daidara , and Hanako.

The only one that I think is clean is Mitsuo. But that's still not conclusive.

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thank you for your vote of confidence

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Originally Posted by [M] Mitsuo

I would like to point out that at this point only one player has escaped suspicion entirely, and that is Nanako, I am not even saying that we she lynch her, but she is right now the only person who has maintained innocence through the whole game

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Liar. What about Tanaka?

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Originally Posted by [M] Mitsuo

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Originally Posted by [M] Kanji

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Originally Posted by [M] Mitsuo

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Originally Posted by [M] Rise

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Originally Posted by [M] Kou

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Originally Posted by [M] Kanji

Rise! Is there anone else you think is mafia?

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As of yet,not really. Its still possible that Mitsuo is but there is just no evidence at the moment. But I am sure Yukiko is mafia!

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You're sure she's mafia just because she reminds you of last game's Rukia?

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Not just that. Effortless swaying of the group mentality. She is the perfect Mafia.

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as would you be

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How was your visit to your secret mafia forum? Did you enjoy plotting with your friends on how to kill Hanako? I bet you think you can trick Namatame to vote Rise tomorrow as well, and bandwagon your way to a victory.

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Why the hell are you attacking me all the sudden!?!?

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Because I think you are mafia.

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Originally Posted by [M] Mitsuo

I would like to point out that at this point only one player has escaped suspicion entirely, and that is Nanako, I am not even saying that we she lynch her, but she is right now the only person who has maintained innocence through the whole game

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The reason why I think Nanako's suspicious is definitely because of this. Because she's been innocent. She always voted for someone and said that she knew she was wrong. But if she's really sorry then she shouldn't have even voted. Or when she would not vote, she'd still say that the lynch is not a good idea. That way after the lynched person was revealed to be innocent, she would not be suspicious, because she tried to stop the lynch. I began to think that this might be a way for her to save herself.

Quote pyramid from hell!

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Originally Posted by [M] Kanji

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Originally Posted by [M] Mitsuo

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Originally Posted by [M] Rise

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Originally Posted by [M] Kanji

Rise! Is there anone else you think is mafia?

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As of yet,not really. Its still possible that Mitsuo is but there is just no evidence at the moment. But I am sure Yukiko is mafia!

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You're sure she's mafia just because she reminds you of last game's Rukia?

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Not just that. Effortless swaying of the group mentality. She is the perfect Mafia.

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as would you be

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How was your visit to your secret mafia forum? Did you enjoy plotting with your friends on how to kill Hanako? I bet you think you can trick Namatame to vote Rise tomorrow as well, and bandwagon your way to a victory.

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Oh no, I don't think Rise is Mafia, I just wanted to get some discussion going. However, I also don't think Yukiko is Mafia and I'm worried that today will end up as a "pick either Yukiko or Rise" lynch. Personally, I'm keeping my vote on Mitsuo. He just reeks of scum to me, and in hindsight I should have voted for him yesterday.

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Originally Posted by [M] Kanji

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Originally Posted by [M] Mitsuo

I would like to point out that at this point only one player has escaped suspicion entirely, and that is Nanako, I am not even saying that we she lynch her, but she is right now the only person who has maintained innocence through the whole game

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Liar. What about Tanaka?

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active member

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Originally Posted by [M] Kanji

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Originally Posted by [M] Mitsuo

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Originally Posted by [M] Kanji

Rise! Is there anone else you think is mafia?

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As of yet,not really. Its still possible that Mitsuo is but there is just no evidence at the moment. But I am sure Yukiko is mafia!

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You're sure she's mafia just because she reminds you of last game's Rukia?

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Not just that. Effortless swaying of the group mentality. She is the perfect Mafia.

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as would you be

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How was your visit to your secret mafia forum? Did you enjoy plotting with your friends on how to kill Hanako? I bet you think you can trick Namatame to vote Rise tomorrow as well, and bandwagon your way to a victory.

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Why the hell are you attacking me all the sudden!?!?

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Because I think you are mafia.

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all of the sudden?

Mitsuo you're so easy at giving away your identity. Stop quoting that! :mad2:

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Originally Posted by [M] Kou

Mitsuo you're so easy at giving away your identity. Stop quoting that! :mad2:

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LOLOLOL

I will punish the next person that posts a pyramid quote. :mad2:

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Originally Posted by [M] Mitsuo

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Originally Posted by [M] Kanji

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Originally Posted by [M] Mitsuo

Why the hell are you attacking me all the sudden!?!?

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Because I think you are mafia.

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all of the sudden?

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Just edit out the older quotes when it gets larger.

I had some suspicions, but your pushing for a speedlynch on Hanako is the biggest flag to me.

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Originally Posted by [M] Igor

I will punish the next person that posts a pyramid quote. :mad2:

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how?

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Originally Posted by [M] Kanji

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Originally Posted by [M] Mitsuo

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Originally Posted by [M] Kanji

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Originally Posted by [M] Mitsuo

Why the hell are you attacking me all the sudden!?!?

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Because I think you are mafia.

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all of the sudden?

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Just edit out the older quotes when it gets larger.

I had some suspicions, but your pushing for a speedlynch on Hanako is the biggest flag to me.

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Its because this is like a video game to me, I want to finish so I can go back and get the hidden items!

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Originally Posted by [M] Kou

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Originally Posted by [M] Mitsuo

I would like to point out that at this point only one player has escaped suspicion entirely, and that is Nanako, I am not even saying that we she lynch her, but she is right now the only person who has maintained innocence through the whole game

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The reason why I think Nanako's suspicious is definitely because of this. Because she's been innocent. She always voted for someone and said that she knew she was wrong. But if she's really sorry then she shouldn't have even voted. Or when she would not vote, she'd still say that the lynch is not a good idea. That way after the lynched person was revealed to be innocent, she would not be suspicious, because she tried to stop the lynch. I began to think that this might be a way for her to save herself.

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I was wondering when my name would pop up... But there wasn't a day I didn't vote, and of course I'm gonna be sad when we voted yet another townie to the gallows. I don't think not voting is helping the situation at all. I vote after I observe weird of suspicious, and it is ALSO pointed out by others (meaning I'm not seeing things or taking it out of context). Also I tend to listen to other peoples opinions and take into consideration some stuff I could have looked over or not found suspicious in the first place.

21 hours left.

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Originally Posted by [M] Mitsuo

Its because this is like a video game to me, I want to finish so I can go back and get the hidden items!

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This is possibly one of the stupidest things you've ever said in this game and I think it justifies my vote on you.

Suddenly Mitsuo seems the better candidate.

##Unvote: Hanako
##Vote: Mitsuo

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Originally Posted by [M] Namatame

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Originally Posted by [M] Mitsuo

Its because this is like a video game to me, I want to finish so I can go back and get the hidden items!

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This is possibly one of the stupidest things you've ever said in this game and I think it justifies my vote on you.

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remember when he posted backwards?

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Originally Posted by [M] Namatame

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Originally Posted by [M] Mitsuo

Its because this is like a video game to me, I want to finish so I can go back and get the hidden items!

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This is possibly one of the stupidest things you've ever said in this game and I think it justifies my vote on you.

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.... ..... ...... It's exciting, like a good movie, you can't wait to see how it ends, but when it's over you are sad

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Originally Posted by [M] Yukiko

Suddenly Mitsuo seems the better candidate.

##Unvote: Hanako
##Vote: Mitsuo

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bandwagon on me?

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Originally Posted by [M] Mitsuo

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Suddenly Mitsuo seems the better candidate.

##Unvote: Hanako
##Vote: Mitsuo

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bandwagon on me?

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Like you were trying to get people to bandwagon Hanako?

I am going to make this plea once more. Yukiko is a target that should be eliminated now. Petty squabbling is getting us no-where.

We had established YESTERDAY the Hanako thing. Also the logic for turning on me here is dumb, YOU all almost were set on her yesterday

Please tells us more about how dumb we are. It'd be nice to actually hear something of substance from you :p

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Originally Posted by [M] Rise

I am going to make this plea once more. Yukiko is a target that should be eliminated now. Petty squabbling is getting us no-where.

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I really hate to agree with you that either she or inactive should be next, but I do. However, I am sticking with Hanako for now

Don't look at me, I voted for Souji.

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Originally Posted by [M] Yukiko

Please tells us more about how dumb we are. It'd be nice to actually hear something of substance from you :p

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and things you have said that actually make sense would be?

Nothing that hadn't a;ready been said

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Originally Posted by [M] Nanako

I was wondering when my name would pop up... But there wasn't a day I didn't vote, and of course I'm gonna be sad when we voted yet another townie to the gallows. I don't think not voting is helping the situation at all. I vote after I observe weird of suspicious, and it is ALSO pointed out by others (meaning I'm not seeing things or taking it out of context). Also I tend to listen to other peoples opinions and take into consideration some stuff I could have looked over or not found suspicious in the first place.

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I meant when you didn't vote for a person who was being lynched. Your posts and votes have all made you seem like you're innocent. It strikes me as a bit odd. Just that.
I'm going to reread the posts to find that one post of yours which turned on the lightbulb. I remember it was when either Souji or Shu were being hanged.

Also, Rise I'm still suspicous of you, so don't count me as a friend yet

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Originally Posted by [M] Kou

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I was wondering when my name would pop up... But there wasn't a day I didn't vote, and of course I'm gonna be sad when we voted yet another townie to the gallows. I don't think not voting is helping the situation at all. I vote after I observe weird of suspicious, and it is ALSO pointed out by others (meaning I'm not seeing things or taking it out of context). Also I tend to listen to other peoples opinions and take into consideration some stuff I could have looked over or not found suspicious in the first place.

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I meant when you didn't vote for a person who was being lynched. Your posts and votes have all made you seem like you're innocent. It strikes me as a bit odd. Just that.
I'm going to reread the posts to find that one post of yours which turned on the lightbulb. I remember it was when either Souji or Shu were being hanged.

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Had to have been shu, I wasnt here for yesterday remember

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Originally Posted by [M] Rise

I am going to make this plea once more. Yukiko is a target that should be eliminated now. Petty squabbling is getting us no-where.

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Earlier I said we need to avoid having two people with the majority of the votes. Having Yukiko and Mitsuo will be even better, because we will get to see some wonderful throwing each other under the bus action!

We don't need to eliminate anyone right now. We needto make sure they can't weasel their ways out of their justice, and use the entire day. We have over 20 hours left and we don't want to waste so much precious time.

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I am going to make this plea once more. Yukiko is a target that should be eliminated now. Petty squabbling is getting us no-where.

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Earlier I said we need to avoid having two people with the majority of the votes. Having Yukiko and Mitsuo will be even better, because we will get to see some wonderful throwing each other under the bus action!

We don't need to eliminate anyone right now. We needto make sure they can't weasel their ways out of their justice, and use the entire day. We have over 20 hours left and we don't want to waste so much precious time.

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Agreed but I am adamant that Yukiko should be a consideration for everyone.

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I was wondering when my name would pop up... But there wasn't a day I didn't vote, and of course I'm gonna be sad when we voted yet another townie to the gallows. I don't think not voting is helping the situation at all. I vote after I observe weird of suspicious, and it is ALSO pointed out by others (meaning I'm not seeing things or taking it out of context). Also I tend to listen to other peoples opinions and take into consideration some stuff I could have looked over or not found suspicious in the first place.

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I meant when you didn't vote for a person who was being lynched. Your posts and votes have all made you seem like you're innocent. It strikes me as a bit odd. Just that.
I'm going to reread the posts to find that one post of yours which turned on the lightbulb. I remember it was when either Souji or Shu were being hanged.

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Had to have been shu, I wasnt here for yesterday remember

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But he was asking Nanako a question? Let the girl talk for herself, she is quite capable of it.

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Originally Posted by [M] Kanji

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Originally Posted by [M] Rise

I am going to make this plea once more. Yukiko is a target that should be eliminated now. Petty squabbling is getting us no-where.

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Earlier I said we need to avoid having two people with the majority of the votes. Having Yukiko and Mitsuo will be even better, because we will get to see some wonderful throwing each other under the bus action!

We don't need to eliminate anyone right now. We needto make sure they can't weasel their ways out of their justice, and use the entire day. We have over 20 hours left and we don't want to waste so much precious time.

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I have no need to throw anyone under the bus, If I'm mafia, then I will give each of you a copy of dissidia duodecim when this is over

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I was wondering when my name would pop up... But there wasn't a day I didn't vote, and of course I'm gonna be sad when we voted yet another townie to the gallows. I don't think not voting is helping the situation at all. I vote after I observe weird of suspicious, and it is ALSO pointed out by others (meaning I'm not seeing things or taking it out of context). Also I tend to listen to other peoples opinions and take into consideration some stuff I could have looked over or not found suspicious in the first place.

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Don't have a cow, I remeber something too, so it had to have been shu
I meant when you didn't vote for a person who was being lynched. Your posts and votes have all made you seem like you're innocent. It strikes me as a bit odd. Just that.
I'm going to reread the posts to find that one post of yours which turned on the lightbulb. I remember it was when either Souji or Shu were being hanged.

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Had to have been shu, I wasnt here for yesterday remember

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But he was asking Nanako a question? Let the girl talk for herself, she is quite capable of it.

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dang it, I put my post in the quotes again

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Originally Posted by [M] Nanako

I was wondering when my name would pop up... But there wasn't a day I didn't vote, and of course I'm gonna be sad when we voted yet another townie to the gallows. I don't think not voting is helping the situation at all. I vote after I observe weird of suspicious, and it is ALSO pointed out by others (meaning I'm not seeing things or taking it out of context). Also I tend to listen to other peoples opinions and take into consideration some stuff I could have looked over or not found suspicious in the first place.

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I meant when you didn't vote for a person who was being lynched. Your posts and votes have all made you seem like you're innocent. It strikes me as a bit odd. Just that.
I'm going to reread the posts to find that one post of yours which turned on the lightbulb. I remember it was when either Souji or Shu were being hanged.

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It's odd I look innocent? Could it be because I am? But I know my voting has been kinda erratic... But I vote, then someone points out something I didn't see, I think about it and decide accordingly. But I do regret voting for so many townies, but I thought them to be suspicious.

:lol:

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Originally Posted by [M] Mitsuo

I have no need to throw anyone under the bus, If I'm mafia, then I will give each of you a copy of dissidia duodecim when this is over

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I hope you're mafia...

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Don't laugh at me! It makes me cry ;_;

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I have no need to throw anyone under the bus, If I'm mafia, then I will give each of you a copy of dissidia duodecim when this is over

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I hope you're mafia...

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lolololol

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Don't laugh at me! It makes me cry ;_;

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It's at Mitsuo. We can go to Junes later and get some ice cream.

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Don't laugh at me! It makes me cry ;_;

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It's at Mitsuo. We can go to Junes later and get some ice cream.

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Don't laugh at me! It makes me cry ;_;

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It's at Mitsuo. We can go to Junes later and get some ice cream.

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Can I come?

PS. Mitsuo, not because I have anything against you, I just want that game :)

Sure. Everyone except for the mafia can. They get to lick cheese graters.

If you lick a cheese grater upwards, you don't cut yourself

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It's odd I look innocent? Could it be because I am? But I know my voting has been kinda erratic... But I vote, then someone points out something I didn't see, I think about it and decide accordingly. But I do regret voting for so many townies, but I thought them to be suspicious.

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Are you new to this? Because looking innocent and nice can even be seen as a mafian strategy. I'm not saying you're mafia though. It's more like doubt everyone. Even yourself. You may not know if you're really what they've told you you are, you know? :D

Yes I'm new to this. Wait.... I could not be what they told me I was? @_@

Yes. For example Igor tells you that you're a cop. But in reality you're an Insane cop, which is a cop that always gets incorrect results. :D

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Yes I'm new to this. Wait.... I could not be what they told me I was? @_@

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This is your first time playing? You don't look like a newbie at this.

You're role is only what you are told. There are roles that can change during the course of the game, and if yours did change you would be told.

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Yes I'm new to this. Wait.... I could not be what they told me I was? @_@

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Indeed. For example, you could be told you're a Cop, but it could turn out that you're Paranoid, Naive or Insane but just haven't been told about it. It adds another element to the game.

Well, looks like Kou beat me and Kanji to it.

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Yes. For example Igor tells you that you're a cop. But in reality you're an Insane cop, which is a cop that always gets incorrect results. :D

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Oh ho ho. I see what you did there.

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Yes I'm new to this. Wait.... I could not be what they told me I was? @_@

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This is your first time playing? You don't look like a newbie at this.

You're role is only what you are told. There are roles that can change during the course of the game, and if yours did change you would be told.

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You're my favorite now :snuggle:

What Kou is reffering to is when there is a part to your role that you don't know about. The main roles that can have this are Cop and Doctor.

They can be Naive where they don't actually have any effect.

Insane where the cop gets the wrong result and the doctor has a 50/50 of killing the target instead of protecting him.

Paranoid which for the cop they always get Scum as a result and the paranoid doctor kills the target unless a seperate killing role targets the same person.

I see! This is more in depth than I thought! WOW EXCITING! How often does this happen?

This kind of discussion is best suited for the discussions thread, not in the game thread. Please get back to the task at hand.

It depends on the setup. If there are multiple cops or doctors then it is more likely than not for one to be normal (sane) and the other to be impaired. While some like the naive roles are compleatly useless, others like the insane cop are just as useful as the normal variation if the person figures out he is insane.

You can find info on many roles here
Roles - MafiaWiki

There are some in this page as well, but they are mostly joke roles.
Worst roles ever - MafiaWiki

Back to killing Mafia now. Where are you Mitsuo? with Yukiko plotting to stop me?

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Back to killing Mafia now. Where are you Mitsuo? with Yukiko plotting to stop me?

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was on the bus, and no Im not

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What Kou is reffering to is when there is a part to your role that you don't know about. The main roles that can have this are Cop and Doctor.

They can be Naive where they don't actually have any effect.

Insane where the cop gets the wrong result and the doctor has a 50/50 of killing the target instead of protecting him.

Paranoid which for the cop they always get Scum as a result and the paranoid doctor kills the target unless a seperate killing role targets the same person.

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I didn't know about this. Why didn't anybody tell me about this? .... I has a confused

Discussion died :(

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Discussion died :(

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because I came back?

Read the common mafia roles at the topic starter of the discussion thread!

I won't be on here for long. I have to make a decision. It always comes down to voting two people. Always. And we all know how it ends. :mad:

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Discussion died :(

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because I came back?

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No it dies before you came back...

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Read the common mafia roles at the topic starter of the discussion thread!

I won't be on here for long. I have to make a decision. It always comes down to voting two people. Always. And we all know how it ends. :mad:

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dead townies?

## Vote : Yukiko.

Well Rise, I guess I'll have to believe you this time.
In my opinion BOTH Yukiko and Hanako may be guilty, that would explain Yukiko retreating her vote. However Yukiko is the only one who can defend herself seeing that Hanako is inactive. Well anyway, if you've lied than you're going down the next day anyway. Night guys. I'll probably check back as early as I can.

Night Kou!

sleep tight!

vote count please

[M] Mitsuo (3) - [M] Kanji, [M] Namatame, [M] Yukiko
[M] Yukiko (3) - [M] Nanako, [M] Rise, [M] Kou
[M] Hanako (2) - [M] Kashiwagi, [M] Mitsuo

19 hours to go

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[M] Mitsuo (3) - [M] Kanji, [M] Namatame, [M] Yukiko
[M] Yukiko (3) - [M] Nanako, [M] Rise, [M] Kou
[M] Hanako (2) - [M] Kashiwagi, [M] Mitsuo

19 hours to go

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well that sucks

Dammit, Blues Agents, I had it! D:<

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Dammit, Blues Agents, I had it! D:<

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what?

The vote count.

:bounce:

Yeah.... It's pretty dead :(

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my thoughts exactly

hello mafia world.... how ya doin?

:heart: Everyday's great at your Junes~ :heart:

15 1/2 hours left. :3

##Vote: [M] Hanako

Three way tie.

Great...

[M] Mitsuo (3) - [M] Kanji, [M] Namatame, [M] Yukiko
[M] Yukiko (3) - [M] Nanako, [M] Rise, [M] Kou
[M] Hanako (2) - [M] Kashiwagi, [M] Mitsuo, [M] Daisuke

Oh, so some of you are online.

2 is bad enough

Some, yeah. But not enough to get it going. I'm still waiting for the inactives... *cough couch* Hanako *cough*

*coughcough* indeed

[M] Mitsuo (3) - [M] Kanji, [M] Namatame, [M] Yukiko
[M] Yukiko (3) - [M] Nanako, [M] Rise, [M] Kou
[M] Hanako (3) - [M] Kashiwagi, [M] Mitsuo, [M] Daisuke

fix'd.

What up? So Naoto was trying to outdo the police department, huh? Shame.

His erratic and distracting have always assured me that Mitsuo is scum.

##Vote: [M] Mitsuo

I look forward to my copy of Dissidia, holmes.

Now this is the tricky part. If/when Daidara, Hanako and Tanaka show up they can potentially speed lynch Mitsuo, or a mafia member might switch votes to him to throw him under the bus and end the day faster. Pay close attention to the game, and I encourage someone to keep an eye out and temporarily unvote Mitsuo if he gets more than 5 votes on him.

[M] Mitsuo (4) - [M] Kanji, [M] Namatame, [M] Yukiko, [M] Adachi
[M] Yukiko (3) - [M] Nanako, [M] Rise, [M] Kou
[M] Hanako (3) - [M] Kashiwagi, [M] Mitsuo, [M] Daisuke

fix'd.

They've been the most inactive characters all game. I don't think we have to worry about them.

14 hours left, homes.

What if I use the Daidara summoning ritual again?

Go for it!

OK! Remember I really have the first vote on Mitsuo though.

##Unvote: Mitsuo

##Vote: Daidara

##Unvote: Daidara

The ritual is complete.

##Vote: Mitsuo

I feel like chanting something. Oiyoiyoiyoi Oiyoiyoiyoi Oiyoiyoiyoi

Calm the eff down, I told you I'd post after work! :ragefist:

First of all I'm going to roleclaim. Vanilla Townie This way, if y'all reman pissy at me for not being around, I can laugh in your face and say "see, i told you so" if you lynch me.

Now down to business.

I can tell you right now that those who are in a hurry to axe me because I'm inactive are most likely mafia. They prey on the weak because it's easy to convince the town that they're no help, plus, it causes bandwagons, which causes townies to question each other and ultimately, kill one of their own because "oh well the mafia formula states that the third in a bandwagon is mafia," which isn't always a true statement, but whatever. So, now that I've gotten that out of the way...

(By the way, Ben and Jerry's Boston Cream Pie is TO DIE FOR, I urge every one of you to try it sometime)

Man I always want to try new Ben and Jerry flavors, but whenever I go to get ice cream Cherry Garcia catches my eye and I just can't turn him down.

xD Welcome to the game Hanako

Trust me, you can't go wrong with Boston Cream Pie. It is DELISH

*flourishes cape* why thank you!

...Alright I'm going to be honest with you. I'm way too friggen lazy to read back on everything I've missed. I'm mentally exhausted. So I'm gonna go with:

##Vote: Mitsuo

Because I'm way too tired to stay up any longer and there's no way I'll be up to vote in time.

NO! :(

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Trust me, you can't go wrong with Boston Cream Pie. It is DELISH

*flourishes cape* why thank you!

...Alright I'm going to be honest with you. I'm way too friggen lazy to read back on everything I've missed. I'm mentally exhausted. So I'm gonna go with:

##Vote: Mitsuo

Because I'm way too tired to stay up any longer and there's no way I'll be up to vote in time.

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Until you posted that I was gonna remove my vote and trust you as a vanilla.

in fact I still will, I'm giving you the benefit of the doubt

##unvote: hanako

crap. now who do i vote for?

Yeah not going to let anybody even have the chance to be speed lynched.

## Unvote: Mitsuo

Don't be mistaken. I still think you are scum Mitsuo, but if you get 7 votes we end the day.

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Don't be mistaken. I still think you are scum Mitsuo, but if you get 7 votes we end the day.

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There is nothing I can say to convince any of you I am not Mafia, so why not lynch me and see how "right" you are?

I don't think you are Mafia...

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I don't think you are Mafia...

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thank you

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Don't be mistaken. I still think you are scum Mitsuo, but if you get 7 votes we end the day.

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There is nothing I can say to convince any of you I am not Mafia, so why not lynch me and see how "right" you are?

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There is. We all know Yukiko is a prime suspect for scum. But there has to be more.

Who are the other members? You must have at least a hunch about it. Your answer may change my opinion of you just yet.

##vote: kanji

stop pointing fingers just because you don't like me

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Don't be mistaken. I still think you are scum Mitsuo, but if you get 7 votes we end the day.

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There is nothing I can say to convince any of you I am not Mafia, so why not lynch me and see how "right" you are?

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There is. We all know Yukiko is a prime suspect for scum. But there has to be more.

Who are the other members? You must have at least a hunch about it. Your answer may change my opinion of you just yet.

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you, nanako, and adachi. primarily adachi

Do you think I'm mafia Mitsuo?

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Do you think I'm mafia Mitsuo?

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Yes I do. Maybe not as much as the others, but AI believe you may have seen me as a threat to your path.

oh, and rise

Votecount

[M] Mitsuo (3) - [M] Namatame, [M] Yukiko, [M] Adachi, [M] Hanako
[M] Yukiko (3) - [M] Nanako, [M] Rise, [M] Kou
[M] Hanako (2) - [M] Kashiwagi, [M] Daisuke
[M] Kanji (1) - [M] Mitsuo
[M] Daidara (0) -

Dammit, I had it AGAIN, Proto! D:<

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Votecount

[M] Mitsuo (3) - [M] Namatame, [M] Yukiko, [M] Adachi, [M] Hanako
[M] Yukiko (3) - [M] Nanako, [M] Rise, [M] Kou
[M] Hanako (2) - [M] Kashiwagi, [M] Daisuke
[M] Kanji (1) - [M] Mitsuo
[M] Daidara (0) -

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thats four on me

There are 4 votes on Mitsuo Igor, not three.

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Don't be mistaken. I still think you are scum Mitsuo, but if you get 7 votes we end the day.

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There is nothing I can say to convince any of you I am not Mafia, so why not lynch me and see how "right" you are?

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There is. We all know Yukiko is a prime suspect for scum. But there has to be more.

Who are the other members? You must have at least a hunch about it. Your answer may change my opinion of you just yet.

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you, nanako, and adachi. primarily adachi

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Good, good. Now explain your reasons for your suspicions.

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What if I use the Daidara summoning ritual again?

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Not funny!

Ok, done sleeping in :D

So, as I was reading through, I was about to come on and vote for Hanako, then suddenly, a wild Hanako appears, uses Harden, eats leftovers, uses Body Slam on Mitsuo and then uses rest.
This was not helpful!

Hanako had been seriously inactive, and personally, I was expecting her to be replaced like Kou appears to have been, but it seems Hanako wasn't replaced, and then shows up for a few posts?

I don't know what to think of this...

ME?!

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Don't be mistaken. I still think you are scum Mitsuo, but if you get 7 votes we end the day.

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There is nothing I can say to convince any of you I am not Mafia, so why not lynch me and see how "right" you are?

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There is. We all know Yukiko is a prime suspect for scum. But there has to be more.

Who are the other members? You must have at least a hunch about it. Your answer may change my opinion of you just yet.

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you, nanako, and adachi. primarily adachi

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Good, good. Now explain your reasons for your suspicions.

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You were just looking for an easy target to pick on so that you seemed pro town, also it is possible the mafia have found out my role and feel the need to get rid of me as soon as possible and that is why you turned on me when I wanted to get the day over with and start a new day.

Rise because she is posting just enough to keep herself on the actives list without being suspicious.

Nanako because no one can be that innocent, it's just not humanly possible, and for her to go three days without anyone pointing her out as suspicious is unthinkable.

Adachi just has rubbed me the wrong way the entire game and his posting is sporadic.

Daidara, that post is wonderful. :lol:

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What if I use the Daidara summoning ritual again?

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Not funny!

Ok, done sleeping in :D

So, as I was reading through, I was about to come on and vote for Hanako, then suddenly, a wild Hanako appears, uses Harden, eats leftovers, uses Body Slam on Mitsuo and then uses rest.
This was not helpful!

Hanako had been seriously inactive, and personally, I was expecting her to be replaced like Kou appears to have been, but it seems Hanako wasn't replaced, and then shows up for a few posts?

I don't know what to think of this...

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You will be happy to know that you are one of few "inactives" I consider innocent, you haven't said squat to make me think otherwise.

OR I'M INNOCENT!

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OR I'M INNOCENT!

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You may be, don't throw a fit

"You voted me and now I don't like you!" ~ Mitsuo

Oh, stuff happened. Whoa you guys type fast.

I'm 7. It's what we do.

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"You voted me and now I don't like you!" ~ Mitsuo

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His arguement for voting for me is that I Voted too quickly for hanako and tried to get the day to end.

Now you are just trying to be rude

You have a role Mitsuo? Is it possible that disclosing it will help us in our search?

If I wanted an easy target, I would go after Hanako or Tanaka. One who doesn't defend themselves are the easy to kill. Or go for a speedlynch on Yukiko. But thats just me.

I can see your reasoning for Adachi though.

The reason I suspect you is your going after Rise and Nanako. I think beyond a shadow of a doubt that both of them are as pro town as possible, and they should not be lynched because we need to keep innocent townies alive.

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What if I use the Daidara summoning ritual again?

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Not funny!

Ok, done sleeping in :D

So, as I was reading through, I was about to come on and vote for Hanako, then suddenly, a wild Hanako appears, uses Harden, eats leftovers, uses Body Slam on Mitsuo and then uses rest.
This was not helpful!

Hanako had been seriously inactive, and personally, I was expecting her to be replaced like Kou appears to have been, but it seems Hanako wasn't replaced, and then shows up for a few posts?

I don't know what to think of this...

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You will be happy to know that you are one of few "inactives" I consider innocent, you haven't said squat to make me think otherwise.

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While I dislike it when people try to buddy up, thank you.
Personally I find you really confusing, your posting is rather erratic, you seem new to this, yet it appears that you've played it a few times, I just don't know what to think of you xD

This is how you talk to children Mitsuo.

It's OK Nanako-chan. Mitsuo is just slightly silly in his head. What kind of Ice cream will you get at Junes? I'm going to have to try that Boston Creme Pie that Hanako recommends. She seems like one who knows her ice cream.

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Who are the other members? You must have at least a hunch about it. Your answer may change my opinion of you just yet.

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If Adachi is your prime suspect, why have you voted for Kanji?

what did i miss? I BSOD

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Who are the other members? You must have at least a hunch about it. Your answer may change my opinion of you just yet.

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you, nanako, and adachi. primarily adachi

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If Adachi is your prime suspect, why have you voted for Kanji?

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Because the only person I have any firm evidence on is Kanji. The fact that he all the sudden turned against me for loose reasons must mean he is afraid of something

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what did i miss? I BSOD

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There are 4 posts between this and your previous post. :confused:

Sporadic? Seriously?

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what did i miss? I BSOD

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There are 4 posts between this and your previous post. :confused:

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Wow... I can't believe I got the blue screen of death and got back on that quick.... It seemed like 10 minutes on this end

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Sporadic? Seriously?

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yes :goomba:

I fear two things. One is Garudyne.

Two is making the wrong choice today.

I'm curious as to why everyone is voting where they're voting.
I understand voting Mitsuo, 'cause he's confusing as hell, and all over the place.

Hanako is being voted for being so darn inactive, yet not being replaced for being inactive.

But what exactly did Yukiko do to make people jump on her? I must have missed something she said, or didn't pick up the same vibes...
Rise's logic for voting Yukiko makes sense, as it doesn't seem like something scum would do, but what are everyone's actual reasons for voting Yukiko, apart from her acting like someone else did in a previous game??

Can someone explain this to me?

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I fear two things. One is Garudyne.

Two is making the wrong choice today.

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Right now I'm fearing that too if you catch my drift.
Also spiders. One got into my room earlier and it had an egg sack and I don't wanna deal with what is gonna happen soon

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I'm curious as to why everyone is voting where they're voting.
I understand voting Mitsuo, 'cause he's confusing as hell, and all over the place.

Hanako is being voted for being so darn inactive, yet not being replaced for being inactive.

But what exactly did Yukiko do to make people jump on her? I must have missed something she said, or didn't pick up the same vibes...
Rise's logic for voting Yukiko makes sense, as it doesn't seem like something scum would do, but what are everyone's actual reasons for voting Yukiko, apart from her acting like someone else did in a previous game??

Can someone explain this to me?

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Giga-bandwagoning

Get that egg sack the hell away from your house or you will.

Wait, am I bandwagoning or manipulating the town, pick pick!

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Wait, am I bandwagoning or manipulating the town, pick pick!

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Why do you think I havent voted for you yet?

Well, hopefully I won't wake up to another lynched townie... Goodnight everyone~

[M] Mitsuo (3) - [M] Namatame, [M] Yukiko, [M] Adachi, [M] Hanako
[M] Yukiko (3) - [M] Nanako, [M] Rise, [M] Kou
[M] Hanako (2) - [M] Kashiwagi, [M] Daisuke
[M] Kanji (1) - [M] Mitsuo
[M] Daidara (0) -

Just under thirteen hours left.

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I'm curious as to why everyone is voting where they're voting.
I understand voting Mitsuo, 'cause he's confusing as hell, and all over the place.

Hanako is being voted for being so darn inactive, yet not being replaced for being inactive.

But what exactly did Yukiko do to make people jump on her? I must have missed something she said, or didn't pick up the same vibes...
Rise's logic for voting Yukiko makes sense, as it doesn't seem like something scum would do, but what are everyone's actual reasons for voting Yukiko, apart from her acting like someone else did in a previous game??

Can someone explain this to me?

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Ok, so I figured I'd do a reread and look into it myself, and it seems the main reason that votes are on Yukiko is because she removed her vote on Hanako yesterday. I understand now, as although she was making it a tie so that more discussion could be had, it does seem pretty sus that Yukiko decided to drop her vote at the last minute to go with the direction the town was looking.
I still don't know where to go on that one though... There are enough alarm bells going off for me to throw any votes around.

Anyone have good evidence on who we should be looking at?
At the moment I do think that Hanako's sporadic/inactive behaviour, and lack of replacement is most suspicious, but I'll be back in a few hours, so hopefully we've got some more to go on then :)

Lack of replacement? You're one to talk, buster.

I've been posting more than Hanako, putting forward ideas, and not making claims or votes without reasoning them first :colbert:

Also Igor, do you want to double check that vote count?

I don't see anything wrong with the votecount.

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[M] Mitsuo (3) - [M] Namatame, [M] Yukiko, [M] Adachi, [M] Hanako

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[M] Mitsuo (4) - [M] Namatame, [M] Yukiko, [M] Adachi, [M] Hanako

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Yep. Looks right to me.

Four votes on Mitsuo, but you have (3). He's being picky, shuddup Daidara :p

No. I'm not. It's right.

I get it!!!!

Hanako is a voteless townie. She has no vote.

Epiphany all round!

Igor, why doyou say Mitsuo has only 3 votes when there four names listed?

oh nevermind, apparently I should refresh before I post D:

Hanako is a voteless townie, that's the only explanation I can see :)

So should I apparently xD

Zzzzzz

No sleeping on the job, Adachi.

But she roleclaimed Vanilla. And she was not replaced? I smell strategy.

Also Morning guys lawl.

OH O_O NOW I noticed it. Wth for serious?

She probably wouldn't know if she was voteless. And unless you can find evidence that one of the other Mitsuo voters has never had their vote counted, I think we should take it as fact.

Also morning guys lawl

[no I just went out for a bit :p]

Well that means she's clean then.

Unfortunately for Kanji it looks like it's a two horse race again. Mitsuo and Yukiko; which is the scum, if not both?

I'd still put money on Mitsuo. Lots of money.

real money

I dunno, I think he's innocent. He's too suicidal to be mafia. Though going by the game related roles he's likely a serial killer :p.

We did have the one-shot vig and hated townie go down in one night, and I didn't see Chie have any issues with Morooka. Perhaps we do have a serial killer, and I wouldn't say Mitsuo is incapable of it.

Oh my god! There is a serial killer, I bet!!

[M] Mitsuo (3) - [M] Namatame, [M] Yukiko, [M] Adachi, [M] Hanako
[M] Yukiko (3) - [M] Nanako, [M] Rise, [M] Kou
[M] Hanako (2) - [M] Kashiwagi, [M] Daisuke
[M] Kanji (1) - [M] Mitsuo
[M] Daidara (0) -

About six hours left.

Good morning guys! I see Mitsuo is still gonna be hung :(

maybe not, morning all.
maybe hanako is tree stump?
also, if there is a serial killer it's not me. I haven't killed anyoned