Yeah, I think I will vote Odin
##Unvote: Valefor
##Vote: Odin
Yeah, I think I will vote Odin
##Unvote: Valefor
##Vote: Odin
If anyone cares, it didn't smurfing workQuote:
Originally Posted by [M] Diablos
About 2 hours ago I got a 0.0.4 on my 3rd or 4th try, and I thought, "Hey, maybe this won't be as bad as I remember! Maybe I got better since then!"Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] Carbuncle
I hoping the game will pity me, so I'll check out Odin while I'm waiting for my timer to max out.
##Unvote: [M] Siren
##Vote: [M] Odin
erm, lynx? :p
Also, the quote Carbuncle just bolded (too lazy to quote his quote lol) is actually the one that sticks out most to me. Lynch shiva no matter what titan turns out to be? Really? Does that make sense in ANY logical universe?
Bad luck Diablos, that Sigil can be tough sometimes.
It makes sense for Odin because he is Cult. Lynching a Nexus would be a good thing because he can't recruit a Nexus if this game isn't more bizarre than it already is.
Halt, soldiers!
With 6 votes, and 11 players, does this not make a speed lynch?
General Rydia?
Siren and Valefor since you were once tied, what are your thoughts?
It was only a matter of time, given our track records. :(Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] Leviathan
Votecount
Siren(0):Phoenix,Leviathan,Ifrit
Valefor(2):Diablos, Titan,Ramuh,Shiva, Siren
Titan(1): Valefor,Ramuh
Ramuh (1): Ramuh
Odin (6): Ifrit, Shiva, Carbuncle, Leviathan, Diablos, Phoenix
Not Voting: Odin
Ok, I'll bite. I'm always escaping these by the skin of my teeth!
##Unvote: Titan
##Vote: Odin
Please be cult leader!
I think I've made all of one post so far in here and deleted it right away :exdee: on the flipside, I posted a single post with this account in gen chat, so i was getting it from both sides (SPOILER)pervs :eep:
I still think Titan is scum, but he definitely isn't the leader. Also I think Siren was a recruit and not a leader. After process of elimination it must be Odin!
You waited until I called you out AGAIN to post something. Being a lurky lay-lower suits Cult. Your change of behavior has not gone unnoticed.
What? My post is above yours on my computer!
your face :colbert:
I don't read your posts anyway, Carbuncle.
Sure you don't. If you didn't read my posts you wouldn't be responding to one of them ;)
can't we all just get along :cry:
So, when is Rydia getting back.
Also...
(SPOILER)BOOOOOOsmurfINGYEAHHHHHHH I GOT THE SUN SIGIL YEEEEEEEEAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHKAJSGBFKJASDBVKJBQWEVKMNB QVBLDSVNLSA:KMVL
I have an important question for everyone that we should have considered from the beginning of our hunt for the cult leader. It's so important that I must spoilerize it first.
(SPOILER)Has anyone really been far even as decided to use even go want to do look more like?
I know I'm not supposed to post in here but getting the Sun Sigil is a big deal! Congrats Diablos n.n
Not half bad there Diablos. Crack open the champagne, it's time to celebrate your victory
:colbert:Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] Leviathan
Actually, I may have led you guys on. This is my 2nd or 3rd time getting it, but it's still a fricken accomplishment because it never, ever gets easier.
So you HAVE really been far even as decided to use even go want to do look more like? :eek: I'm impressed!
I have the answer!Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] Leviathan
(SPOILER)You've got to be kidding me. I've been further even more decided to use even go need to do look more as anyone can. Can you really even as decided half as much to use go wish for that? My guess is that when one really been far even as decided once to use even go want, it is then that he has really been far even as decided to use even go want to do look more like. It's just common sense.
I was looking for that on google but i couldn't remember how it went :exdee:
Goddammit Jessweeee♪ you're meant to be dead! Dead people don't talk. Just lay there a little while longer, okay? :pQuote:
Originally Posted by Jessweeee♪
Where the hell is Rydia to hand us our dead cult leader? :p
I'm not even gonna be here to find out how Odin flips :(
I'll be honest, every hunch I had has been wrong, so I have no way to defend myself.
In regards to my comment on lynching Shiva, that was made prior to the Idea that he was ever targeted by Carbuncle. And I don't see how my thoughts on why it didn't matter if I stated my roll as Vanilla town, or my comments on what to do about Titan's roleclaim was suspicious, as it was true. :p
But my horrid target record speaks for itself. I'll keep my lot in on Valefor howerver.
##Vote: Valefor
Doesn't matter Odin. You're dead.
This town can't seem to make its mind up until the end of the day.
What does that mean?
We start the day determined on lynching Valefor, and we switch to Odin. Same thing pretty much happened with bahamut too, where he got saved. Not a bad thing necessarily.
I know I am the big target for tomorrow but could you guys wait until I come back before I'm expected to answer stuff? I have a busy day today but I will be way before the day ends to answer any questions/accusations.
The one time I fall asleep early you majority lynch...
Odin was Vanilla Town, night 5 actions please.
Sylph rode Ixion around singing Christmas carols. I have no idea why, but I really don't care either. Nobody died last night again.
Also the town is currently in endgame. 10 remain, 5 for a majority lynch. 24 hour limit on time.
Ixion :heart:
Hiiiiiiiii there! I'm feeling tho faaaaaaaabulouth today~ :jess:
I smurfing hate Rydia.
Someone's feeling quite gay today.
Oh Ifrit! :aimkiss:
Why, Titan, is that a bone in your speedo or are you just pleased to see me? :jokey:
...:yuck:
So town is not dead. There's only four possibilities for this.
1. Ifrit got roleblocker last night which is the only one he hasn't gotten so far if I am remembering correctly and he blocked the Cult Leader from recruiting.
2. I roleblocked the Cult Leader.
3. I protected the right person.
4. Cult tried to recruit someone who was unrecruitable and wasted a day. This may apply to if they tried to recruit Shiva.
Anyway, we should focus on finding our Cult Leader, and Valefor is currently our best bet. I'm quite shocked we decided to go after Odin yesterday. We are on the verge of losing if we lynch the wrong person again.
Horny Gay Faith Healer all over again? :colbert:
Maybe just horny gay.
Where is everyone?
Looking for cupcakes. Rydia, could we have 30 hours for this day too since both Rydias left us high and dry yesteryear.
Hiiiiiiiii thailorth!
That dah-ling Carbuncle is correct in his assumption that I was a roleblocker last night. I chose Siren as I figured if Theory 2 was wrong, Theory 1 would be the best bet.
Also, sweeties, let's not have a smurfing speed lynch like yesterday. We probably should've let that dirty little spunkmuffin Odin at least explain himself but things just got carried away. It was a mistake that has cost us dearly, we need to learn from it.
We need to play it cool and not rush into anything. We should talk, speculate and question people right up until the final hour.
Well, I'm getting my wisdom teeth pulled tomorrow, so I will try to be here earlier in the morning before I leave, and I should be back before the day is over, but I may still be a little high from the anesthesia...
Anyway, last night, when I got very tired of FFX from the fricken Sun Sigil, I looked over the thread, and I think Siren is worse than Valefor right now. His timing for his claims and theories and ideas just seem way too convenient. Just in case I can't make it back in time, I'll place my vote now.
##Vote: Siren
OK, fair enough, Siren is probably who I would vote for right now if I knew I couldn't show up tomorrow, Diablos you evil pile of raw sex appeal. Good luck with your teeth.
Lynch me and the town losses.
I concur. Siren came up Sane when I investigated her. We should not consider voting for her.
Who did you investigate tonight Titan and what was the outcome?
I investigated Ramuh. I want to wait for him to be around before I reveal the result.
Why would you not reveal it now? Times a wasting.
There's plenty of time, and besides, I want to hear his reaction to the revelation.
You'll hear it either way.
Tell me quick.
First Ramuh, what do you believe your result would be?
Just to make certain you aren't cult, I can't tell you. You have more standing with the town so they would believe you if I lied. I won't lie.
Fine, I understand. I got a Sane reading from you, so I believe you are not a threat.
I am a Vanilla Townie. You are sane.
Valefor is cult.
##vote: Valefor
Of course I am sane; I was never insane in the first place. This is why we should lynch Valefor and not Siren today. We have a greater chance of winning with Valefor lynched.
## Vote: Valefor
Doomtrain threw us off track with his insane reading.
If he was a night bomb, blowing up could kill Ifrit. That's the only thing that makes sense to me.
She could have been recruited after you investigated her. Why would you be so confident that she wasn't?Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] Titan
Oh, that's right, because you were turned a long time ago. I guess now you guys have Ramuh too. Or maybe you are just trying to get Ramuh to vote with you so he can help you win. Not buying it, never did.
All I know is that I was never turned. I've been for the town this whole time.
##Vote: Siren
It's down to the town - do they believe more in Valefor or good old Ramuh and Titan? All I know is I decided to not reveal (and refused plenty of times) so we had some way of testing Titan. I will admit, originally I held back just because I didn't feel comfortable being a vanilla townie where people would suspect be of being recruited the day after, but my plan changed and it paid off.
Why is it so easy to string up [M] Valefor? This is the main reason I've been against doing so. He does tend to get up there on the lynch list, but I can't ever see why the Cult would allow that. I don't know and it drives me up the wall.
So what's the deal with [M] Diablos? Dude's clearly willing to sacrifice who's available, seeing how in the past few days [M] Siren and [M] Valefor were good lynchees for him. I think he clearly stated it didn't matter between the two who died. But then he suddenly jumped on the Speed Lynch for [M] Odin once we got it going. Maybe I made a good case, I thought I made a damn good case, but the bandwagon kind of prevented a discussion, and it turns out we only lynched an honest man.
So I'm hoping we get it right when we lynch [M] Valefor or [M] Siren, but I'm not too trusting of our "Beloved Princess" and he can suck it should we mess up with the "Old Hag".
I guess I was trying for impartiality there, but getting the bird does look more appealing. That last sentence is so jacked up. :(
MMMMM! Are there any cute guys in here? ;)
how long do we have left?
*raises hand and back clicks*
Well, if [M] Siren ends up dirty, so would [M] Ramuh, given that he's preached so much about [M] Titan's accurate readings.
And two role-blockers makes things messy, did I miss [M] Carbuncle stating who he blocked/protected? [M] Ifrit said he stopped [M] Siren from any night actions, if any.
Also for the record, spunky sailors, I'm still leaning towards Siren as the leader. Valefor, as Shiva said, has been way too close to the brink for some time for a cult leader. Everyone's against the guy. Everyone! That can't be right if he's the leader. His minions would willingly die for him.
Although I still fancy Valefor (;););)) ....as cult, so why he'd vote for his leader I don't know. Argh.
By "preaching so much" I hope you mean two posts. :flirt:Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] Shiva
Did that sexy bucket of love juice, Carbuncle, say who he blocked?
Yeah, if you mean recently, you dirty old man.
No, I think not, [M] Ifrit.
This is our current outfit:
[M] Carbuncle
[M] Diablos
[M] Ifrit
[M] Leviathan
[M] Phoenix
[M] Ramuh
[M] Shiva
[M] Siren
[M] Titan
[M] Valefor
If we assume the power roles are off-limits (-4), it gets to this:
[M] Diablos
[M] Leviathan
[M] Phoenix
[M] Ramuh
[M] Siren
[M] Valefor
If the Princess and Hag roles are to be believed (-2):
[M] Leviathan
[M] Phoenix
[M] Ramuh
[M] Siren
That leaves us 4 big targets for the Cult Leader, if he's not among them already.
We're told this is the endgame, so we must be near the brink of things. So the score should look like 6 to 4, right? So what does that mean? It means 4 people are Cult. The only people who can be Cult beyond the leader are on that last list, if the P&H ploy is to be believed. Even if the P&H isn't believed (nice idea, Cult), those there are the 4 who'll seal our fate.
So what happens today? We kill a person. If this person's Cult, we turn 6-3. Cult recruits someone at night, 5-4. Today, were we to kill someone NOT Cult, the score'd be 5-4 and since the Cult Leader knows their targets as well as we do, we would lose during the night, 4-5.
What does this all mean? We have to nab a Cultist today. Doesn't matter if it's the Leader or not, right? He'll be out of targets and we can slowly root Cult out like daily weeding. In fact, it wouldn't be down to voting any longer if the 4 confirmed powers work as a team, slowly eliminating everyone else. It could be automated at that point. This really is the endgame, guys.
Should we really need the Cult Leader? Does the previous paragraph make sense? Have we been looking at this all wrong with the idea "NAB THE LEADER NAB HIM KILL HIM"? I think we just have to outnumber them in the end.
Oh, and in writing this, it helped me consider the P&H possibility and why it's probably not true. More on that soon.
P&H (Princess and Hag)
The theory exists that 2 of our suspicious colleagues are power roles, the Beloved Princess and the Old Hag.
Taking this claim as true brings this chain of logic:
[M] Valefor and [M] Diablos are the Princess and Hag, respectively.
The Cult Leader exists within the remaining 4 "Townies".
The Cult Leader has no more targets.
To win, the Cult must rely on lynchings to reduce the number of pro-townies.
This could be true, but it doesn't spell out endgame to me. Even were we to lynch a townie today, the score would be 5-4, town's favor, and we could recover, since there'd be no more recruits.
Taking this claim as false yields this:
There is no Princess and Hag.
[M] Valefor and [M] Diablos lied.
The Cult Leader exists within a group of 6.
The Cult Leader may still convert 2 more targets.
To win, the Cult may use both lynchings and conversion.
So where does that leave us? We lynch right and the Cult gets a convert tonight, we're down to 5-4, still a fighting chance for another day. We lynch wrong and the Cult gets a convert, we're 4-5, game over. Very much an endgame scenario.
Logic and indisputable fact aside, while either of these scenarios can be true, the latter carries more weight in my mind. I would also suspect [M] Valefor and [M] Diablos of being Cult for their claims, and maybe even one of them being the Leader. Of course, their leader could've just told them to do that and kept him or herself hidden in a Vanilla role.
If we are to take Shiva's - btw, do you know of any cute guys I could meet? I'm all alone and need some company ;) - P&H Theory as truth, then we have to look at why it was made.
If we lynch a Beloved Princess, it harms us a lot more than harming this supposed Hag role. Therefore, we would be more willing to lynch Valefor than Diablos, and so of the two, you'd want your leader to be seen as the "Beloved Princess". Therefore of the two, it could well be Diablos that is the leader.
If the two of them are being truthful, and I am more willing to believe Diablos is being honest than Valefor, can they be recruited? It seems unfair to the cult to leave them with just 4 possible members. And, suppose they can be, do they retain their powers or lose them? I would have to say that in my opinion, letting the new recruits keep their old powers too sounds very unbalanced, if they can be recruited, I would theorise they would lose their powers. If they do lose their powers, and Diablos is being truthful, it would make a lot more sense for the cult NOT to recruit him and leave him as a Beloved Princess, as a BP, in death, is designed to help the scum roles.
When I say "why it was made" I mean "why the claims of Hag and BP were made".
TO SAN FRANCISCO! :jess:
Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] Diablos
Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] Phoenix
All in half a page. I smell a cult bandwagon methinks.Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] Valefor
And beloved princess is a very convenient role to claim. I doubt the mods would include it, as if the serial killer was alive it would mean two possible townies dead and two recruited. In a game with 15 people, not only would this be excessive, but it would wreck the town. Diablos is right underneath Valefor on my suspicions list.
Oooh, nice work Ramuh. I just want to cover my face in your beard.
Although you have to wonder if they'd be as obvious as that. If so then LOL @ the cult.
I checked myself and we have six hours. I'll be leaving for an hour or so of that, but beyond that I'll be here so I hope we can use this time productively and not speed lynch Siren or Valefor or whoever else.
You can never trust those flyers.
The current vote count is 2 to Valefor (that sexy hunk!) and 2 to Siren (ew! A girl!)
5 is needed for a speed lynch. So let's not get above 3 for the time being imho.
I believe Carbuncle, Ifrit, Leviathan, Phoenix, Shiva, and Siren have not voted.
Also Diablos and Valefor voted for Siren. Phoenix is yet to vote. Not only does this support the connection between the trio, but I'd like to see what excuse phoenix comes up with to saves Valefor, or if he will actually vote for him.
More feedback from all nine other players would be appreciated. Have I been too far-fetched, or are there chinks in my thinking? Do either [M] Diablos or [M] Valefor would like to say something about possibly being liars?
Also, still waiting for that big sweaty pot of cuddles, Carbuncle, to reveal his target. I think that the only way we did not lose yesterday was through either his block or my own (Siren) so I think it is imperative we find out who it was.
Indeed, Ramuh. That feathery sweaty trumpet Phoenix hasn't even posted today. Callin' you out, birdy. Where are you?
At this point Leviathan stopped a Valefor lynch to lynch bahamut, constant target of Valefor. This vote saved Valefor.Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] Leviathan
And again, Interestingly, Leviathan ignores Diablos and (to some extent) phoenix to go for the character who happened to get a sane reading. Siren has been more useful than them.Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] Leviathan
I am certain that these four are the cult.
Valefor
Phoenix
Diablos
Leviathan
I think there must be four members because we are at endgame. The behaviour of these members would indicate that Siren is not a member, and I know that I am not. Neither me or Siren have any connection with these four members. The rest of you are almost confirmed pro-town.
I want you guys to tell me if you believe me or not. I'm not basing my evidence exclusively off of the votes (although when analyzed it's a big clue) but I also stated at day 3 that I thought Leviathan and Phoenix had a pact together. Valefor was anti-inactive, but I have not seen instances where he has called Diablos or Phoenix out.
Feedback please. I have a very strong feeling I'm right on this one.
I have to step out for an hour, but I like your theory Ramuh you handsome devil, and I want to comment on it to get back. So rest assured that feeback from me at least is coming.
*when I get back
I hate not being able to edit xD
MANSEX
There are 6 possibilities for the 4 Cultists. You're at least half right.
Like I said, where is the evidence that me or Siren would be cult? I have looked, there is no connection.
I was hoping you didn't roleblock the same person as me. What a waste of my night.Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] Ifrit
Night 1: Titan
Night 2: Ifrit
Night 3: Bahamut
Night 4: Valefor
Night 5: Siren
10 total
6 town
5 possible cult
1. Carbuncle
2. Ifrit
3. Shiva
4. Titan?
5. ?
6. ?
Oops, that maths is all wrong. Do over!
10 total
6 town
4 possible cult
Valefor and/or Diablos is lying. I don't think we'd have two of the similar roles which is Hag and Beloved Princess.
Carbuncle, what do you think of my theory?
Well it could be 5 to 5 too?
It has to be 5 -5 if we're in endgame.
My sentiments equate to one expression.
What?
it could be 6-4. With a town death and a successful cult recruit they would win. If it is 5-5 then Siren is cult. I know you guys think I'm fishy but which one of the vanilla townies do you trust most? That's what it comes down to in that case.
I think there are four cult, however.
Like I would tell you. They'd be picked out for recruitment. It's better to focus on who we meaning confirmed town, me, Ifrit Shiva, don't trust.Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] Ramuh
As a stupid person, I'm not familiar what happens when it's 5-5. I guess? It'd mean we're even more screwed and that the Princess and Hag don't exist if 4 people have been proven recruitable.
If we lynch town today we will lose. That's what 5-5 means.
Me and Siren have been given sane readings, the cult will not have a huge amount of deliberation to do. If this day is exclusively down to you three then fine, I'll save you my posts which have actually proven to be useful. It's a terrible attitude.
How do I know you didn't you recruit Titan and then purposely had him do a reading on you to make yourself look good and could I possibly be lying about who I roleblocked tonight to catch someone in a lie. You never know. ;)
If Titan can be recruited then so can you. By that logic you shouldn't have a say in the day's proceedings.
Getting worried Ramuh?
No. I have no votes. Have you run out of arguments and decided to turn it back on me?
Why so defensive? Anyway if it is true Titan reads sane for goodies and insane for baddies, then by this logic Valefor would be the baddy and Siren is a goodie. I have doubts about this though since Doomtrain came up as a Dud.
By that logic both of us are goodies, with a small chance that Siren has been converted. It is not possible for me to be cult because I was investigated sane last night.
Interesting.
Leviathan and Phoenix are very very quiet.
I hate you if that was sarcasm.
I get the feeling people just miss my posts.Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] RamuhAt this point Leviathan stopped a Valefor lynch to lynch bahamut, constant target of Valefor. This vote saved Valefor.Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] Leviathan
And again, Interestingly, Leviathan ignores Diablos and (to some extent) phoenix to go for the character who happened to get a sane reading. Siren has been more useful than them.Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] Leviathan
I am certain that these four are the cult.
Valefor
Phoenix
Diablos
Leviathan
I think there must be four members because we are at endgame. The behaviour of these members would indicate that Siren is not a member, and I know that I am not. Neither me or Siren have any connection with these four members. The rest of you are almost confirmed pro-town.
I want you guys to tell me if you believe me or not. I'm not basing my evidence exclusively off of the votes (although when analyzed it's a big clue) but I also stated at day 3 that I thought Leviathan and Phoenix had a pact together. Valefor was anti-inactive, but I have not seen instances where he has called Diablos or Phoenix out.
Feedback please. I have a very strong feeling I'm right on this one.
I talked about inactivity already ... above.
Time for another investigation. :)
I don't know how we can win if the innocent disagree with each other, since the Cult can bandwagon a vote and if we can't match them for a Sudden Death, we'd be done for. So I ask that we all commit to a player once crunch time comes around.
I'm pretty set on my prize four. I think Valefor is the most obvious though, especially after the bandwagon vote on Odin to take the heat off of him quickly.
[QUOTE='[M] Ramuh;2787219'][I am certain that these four are the cult.
Valefor
Phoenix
Diablos
Leviathan.[/QUOTE]I think what my bearded boyfriend Ramuh has here is a very, very good possibility for the cult. Now, who could be the leader? I think, if any of them, it could well be Phoenix because of the low profile he has been keeping. Letting his minions do all the talking and cop the heat while he hangs low and un-noticed.
If Valefor's who we want to get today, and he turns up cult and we do not lose, our powers should be co-ordinated to maximise their effectiveness. I suggest an investigation on Phoenix from Titan. If Carbuncle is willing, I hope that he will block Diablos and if I get vig or roleblock powers, I will go for Leviathan. (or whoever, tell me if you want to swap for whatever reason)
Those were my thoughts, however, Carbuncle has this to say:
This means we both went for Siren? If the scores are 5-5 (and this would explain the 5 needed for majority lynch) then the leader had to have been blocked last night and we both went for Siren. That would've been the only thing stopping their victory.Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] Carbuncle
Siren could well be the leader, meaning an alternate cult to the one Ramuh proposed would be
Siren
Ramuh
Titan
Leviathan/ Phoenix
Titan would have to have been compromised to tell us Siren was innocent, and because of the links I saw to Ramuh (and because of Titan saying Ramuh was sane) he would have to be in on it too. I am not sure who the fourth member would be and should Siren be the person who we agree on, I would like to discuss it further at some point. Neither Leviathan or Phoenix have voted for Siren, though, and Valefor and Diablos have so I am guessing it would be one of these two.
I don't know if Cult 1 or Cult 2 is more likely. If I decide it's Cult 1, I will vote Valefor to go along with the rest of you - as Shiva says, we need unity - but I think Phoenix would be a better bet.
For Cult 2, it's almost certainly Siren.
My quote :(
Well, you get what I was trying to quote, don't you ya big slabs of pumpin' sexiness? :jokey:
It's also possible that the cult tried to recruit Siren and failed. It would be very beneficial to recruit someone who has been confirmed sane
Oh, can Carbuncle block recruitment? I saw some speculation about that awhile ago but I ignored it because I figured he was just a regular Jailkeeper (with Doctor and Roleblocking functions). If he can block recruitment as well then that is one hell of a powerful role.
PS: let me play with your big staff, Ramuh. ;)
He roleblocks and protects them. I might be wrong, but doesn't protection stop recruitment?
PS: sure thing bbz.
I thought it just blocked kills you handsome man. Having something that stops the Serial Killer and The Cult is a bit OTT. But Carbuncle can probably tell us himself better.
If that is the case and Siren is the cult leader then I'm at a loss because my own logic turns back on me. All I can give you is my word.
If it's down to five cult and five town, the leader could be anyone Carbuncle blocked.Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] Ifrit
Ahhhh. Good point.
Sexy Titan has been confirmed as a Psychwhatever by Cactuar even if he has since been recruited, I know I'm not scum but if you doubt it then hopefully my killing of Anima will persuade you, Bahamut's dead and so that leaves you or Valefor.
Which is right back where we started. God damn it. xD
I'm a bit lost. Are me and Siren confirmed town or are we with the other suspects? This game is trippy. xD
Siren isn't confirmed anything. Even if smexy Titan hasn't been compromised, then there's a very good chance she got turned after he investigated her.
As for you, you're town if handsome Titan is town. And I really, really, really smurfing hope he is. (and not just because I want to go out on a date with him!)
unless he's insane which is why he got Insane on gorgeous Doomtrain. Argh again.
smurf it just lynch me instead so I don't have to think about any of this ever again :lol:
What are we, 5-5? So if we lynch a Cultist, then they recruit their last target, we're 5-4? I'm still a gigantic fan of aiming at someone we strongly suspect. We'll still be out of the red and can slowly dwindle the amount of Cultists as long as we get the first right.
How about we don't aim for the two big obvious targets, [M] Siren and [M] Valefor? While we're probably up to 5 Cultists, we're still one up by a Townie.
[M] Siren was sane at her last check-up, and while a Cult Leader might recruit a confirmed Townie, what's to stop him from leaving her there as a final gambit? Still pretty risky.
[M] Titan's investigations have never made any sense to me, so it's not as if [M] Ramuh is in the clear for me. He might, considering [M] Titan might be right and the Dud Issue really was complicated, but there's still that shadow of doubt.
I still give [M] Titan credit because if the Cult can't recruit power roles, he has one, however :bou::bou::bou::bou:ty it may have been. Same should've applied to [M] Bahamut too, in hindsight.
[M] Valefor is always being served up on a golden platter and that worries me. Could he actually be the Hag I so doubt the existence of? While 5 Cultists make me think P&H isn't true, what if [M] Diablos claimed Princess to make us question Hag?
I think we can assume [M] Phoenix, [M] Leviathan, and [M] Diablos are most certainly Cult because we're running out of options and doubt here. I say we start here and get someone less risky than our other options. :)
Note to future players: flat beer stinks. Always finish off your glass in a timely manner. :(
A little over two hours remain.
In a way I hope Siren is cult because it will make me the final standing Vanilla Townie. :] I have suspicions about one of the other three cult being leader instead of Valefor, because it seems like they're hiding and letting Valefor take the rope. Leviathan has been active but less controversial than Valefor.
##Unvote: Valefor
##Vote: Leviathan
I think ifrit should kill one of the other three tonight, assuming of course that Siren isn't cult which she could be so I'm not sure.
We'll be 5-4 down and it will be game over. Usually the moderator will just end it at this point. If they don't, well, the cultists can vote in a cock - oops, I mean block! - of 5 for a townie each day and that'll be the end of that.Quote:
Originally Posted by Shiva
The only things to stop this, should we lynch a regular Cultist rather than a leader, is Carbuncle successfully picking out the leader, or if I get vigilante and hit a cultist, or if I get roleblocker and hit the leader. I think if I got those powers I would know who to hit based on whatever result we get today, the only problem is that there is only a 2 out of 5 chance of me getting one of those.
Is this the 500th time I'm explaining this role? My role blocks night actions and it also protects against bad effects. This includes night kills and probably cult recruitment. The role didn't specify these bad effects, but the fact that it's worded like that (though not exactly because I had to paraphrase) leads me to believe that. Whether the doctor part of me can do that or not it doesn't matter because as a roleblocker also I could roleblock a Cult Leader most likely.Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] Ifrit
QUACK QUACKITY QUACK QUACKA QUAAAAAAACCKKKKK
QUAAAAAACK QUACK QUACKA QUACKITY QUAAAAAACK QUACK!
##Vote: Valefor
QUAAAAACK~~
QUACKITY QUACK QUACK QUACK QUACK *shakes her tail feathers at Ramuh* QUAAAAACK
##unvote
##vote: Siren
AWESOOOOOME
Sorry, I just ignored it when people questioned you until now, sexy man. :shobon: So you're not absolutely clear on it? God, I hope your hunch is right.Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] CarbuncleIs this the 500th time I'm explaining this role? My role blocks night actions and it also protects against bad effects. This includes night kills and probably cult recruitment. The role didn't specify these bad effects, but the fact that it's worded like that (though not exactly because I had to paraphrase) leads me to believe that. Whether the doctor part of me can do that or not it doesn't matter because as a roleblocker also I could roleblock a Cult Leader most likely.Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] Ifrit
QUACK QUACK QUACKITY QUAAAAACKITY QUACK QUACK QUAAAAAAACKKKKKKKK
##Vote: Valefor
hahahahah what the smurf
##unvote: leviathan
##vote: Phoenix
Maybe not cult leader.
And if it is the four I suggested last page I'm totally getting some hot summoner tonight. /smug
Hey Rydia, you filthy woman who is of no interest to me, how come I never got to be a duck? :colbert:
Either way, Leviathan is obviously cult. I think I will just ignore him, it's just mind games.
maybe he's acting crazy so we think he isn't cult leader, but he actually is. 0_o
I have been suspicious of Leviathan for for a while now, but I wanted to keep him around for my own amusement. :aimkiss:
Jesus christ you could be right. Oh god damnit cult (whose male members can recruit me up the backside any day they like ;)) you tricky bastards.
Let's just stick to ignoring Leviathan. They're obviously trying to confuse us and make us think these things. We'll go by whatever actions Leviathan has made before today to judge his cult leader status, not this quacking.
Don't forget to look at his buddy Phoenix.
I hope I don't get turned tonight. ;_;
Although tbh I am still willing to go with that chunk of prime beef, Carbuncle and his roleblocks (and mine last night) to determine the leader, which means it is Siren or Valefor imho.
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1 little two little three little cult members. Three little four little five little cult members.
Not necessarily dear Ifrit. They may have tried to recruit a person I protected and were unable to hence why we were spared most likely spared a day. Or they maybe have tried to recruit Shiva and she bounced back like a basketball.
I'm bursting because if there are five cult then I know we have them all, but there is no way I can convince you I'm not cult. :irked:
I would've thought that if they went for Shiva then they would've just got somebody else at random, you sweet pumpkin pie.Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] Carbuncle
However, yeah, you could be right on that. But I dunno, Valefor and Siren have both been the most Cult-like bastards in this game. Well, besides Leviathan. I don't know why they would want to recruit two people who have come under a lot of suspicion. You'd go for the safe bets rather than the ones who are likely to be lynched. I just. ugggh. I'm going around in circles here.
I think we need some fresh perspectives on all of this. Damnit, Phoenix, if you are town - and I have strong doubts about that - get your butt out here now. :colbert:
Oh yeah! So that means one thing and one thing only. One of the bilge rats on my list is the Cult Leader.Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] IfritI would've thought that if they went for Shiva then they would've just got somebody else at random, you sweet pumpkin pie.Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] Carbuncle
That is if my protection abilities do not protect against recruitment.
Back in day 3 I noticed lots of Valefor and Leviathan posts in close proximity - and there were lots of posts from them. I'm actually assuming as Phoenix, Diablos and Siren didn't start posting until a bit later, it's one of those two who is leader.
They wouldn't. As you can see they didn't go for Odin.Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] Ifrit
They'd go for people who wouldn't be suspected like Diablos, Leviathan, Phoenix and/or Valefor.
I don't know, sweetcheeks, I think the leader would be more of a quiet type as he is much more valuable to the cause than a grunt.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ramuh
If they wouldn't, can we then assume they did not try to recruit Valefor or Siren on Nights 4 and 5 (or whenever it was you blocked them) and that if they were members and not the Leader, they were recruited before then?Quote:
Originally Posted by Carbuncle
~1 and a half hours left. I don't look forward to sorting through this to double check the votecount :(
Figures you would.Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] Leviathan
More time needed!
Handsome Carbuncle and Shiva, who are you guys opting for right now?
For me it's Valefor or Siren still. It has to be. But if you guys want Phoenix like Ramuh does, I'll think about it. I'm still not entirely sold because of the night action web we've got to untangle.
If the four we suspect are cult then they do a bad job at making cases, seeing as I found Siren to be much more helpful than Phoenix or Diablos.
Two words: No.Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] Carbuncle
I guess Rydia never got maths lessons. ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] RydiaTwo words: No.Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] Carbuncle
Night 5: blocked Titan
:)
tbh I've found Siren to be the least helpful. I think yesterday - Day 5 - was the first time she registered an official vote.Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] Ramuh
Phoenix and Diablos, those MANWICHES OF CREAM (I don't know what that means either, just roll with it) don't offer much but they at least throw out votes to analyse.
wut
@carby that was
This means that his result on spunkdam Ramuh was complete and utter bollocks?Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] Carbuncle
hahahah you smurfing beast you. Well god damn played. :lol:
Right then, if Titan is full of :bou::bou::bou::bou: then it's Siren that we want imho.
Hold the phone, let's see what Titan has to say.
That's a smurfing lie! I wasn't roleblocked last night as I had a result on Ramuh.
That's interesting. What say you Siren, Valefor, Leviathan, Phoenix, Diablos?
what the smurf. Titan managed to get the correct reading on me!
Well, Ramuh my bearded busom buddy, if Titan has been compromised, then of course he knows what your status is!
Hardly my fault Lev broke the tie on Day 4 as I was typing my vote up.Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] Ifrittbh I've found Siren to be the least helpful. I think yesterday - Day 5 - was the first time she registered an official vote.Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] Ramuh
Then we go into the territory of "if titan lies then Ramuh and Siren are guilty." I do not want that. I am good.
And how would you explain the great bandwagon vote and the other evidence we collected a couple of pages back?
~1hr left!
Why does it matter to you if we think Siren is guilty, strapping sonata? ;) I treat you both as seperate entities and I'm sure the rest of the town does too.
Depends on when he was compromised. Besides, I am not cult.Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] IfritThis means that his result on spunkdam Ramuh was complete and utter bollocks?Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] Carbuncle
hahahah you smurfing beast you. Well god damn played. :lol:
Right then, if Titan is full of :bou::bou::bou::bou: then it's Siren that we want imho.
You talking to me?Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] Ramuh
Because I'm under the impression that we've been lumped into categories.
Me and Siren
Valefor, Diablos, Phoenix and Leviathan
Carbuncle, Ifrit and Shiva
Titan
Nope. :]Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] SirenYou talking to me?Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] Ramuh
Siren, quick, what are your thoughts on *swoon* Ramuh?
The tables have turned. I have had a revelation. Let us hope this time it is correct.
You wouldn't be lumped in with her if you weren't so determined to defend her you grizzled maneater, you. That you're so staunch in a defence of someone I suspect to be a Cult Leader doesn't do anything to remove my fears about you two you know. :tongue:
Siren, who do you think is the most suspicious? Name four or five characters.
I don't understand why everyone isn't going after Valefor, who I have read as Insane. Ramuh and Siren are both Sane as far as I am concerned, and both are also risky votes. I prefer that we go for the safer vote of Valefor to win. We want to win, don't we?
Maybe the cult are using you and your knowledge of who is innocent and guilty to lead them to victory. :(
Ramuh. Suppose you are a free man. Free of all Siren connotations and will not share any fate that befalls her. What do you think of her?
Also I like big butts but only when they belong to men. Just thought I'd let you guys know~
I think that she is very suspicious but I can't draw any links between her and my suspected cult, so I can't believe she is cult.