Harry Potter and The order of the Phoenix (movie)

I am rather suprised I have not seen a thread for this yet (unless I am blind)

I got a sneak peak at this movie yesterday (through work at Great Clips) and it was rather awesome. IT was a bit hard to follow, imo, and it seemed very rushed - though, for some reason, I still really enjoyed the movie. It is almost as though the rushed feeling made Harry's confusion more believable!

Luckily, I seen it in IMAX, and the last 20 minutes were in 3-d, and done quite well. I don't really want to spoil it for anyone, so I won't go into why. I also heard a lot of complaints on the pace and how different the movie was from the book.

What did you guys think? And was it too different from the book?

well i havent seen it yet but the book was one of the worst of them all, it wasnt bad but the others were much better:cool: very dark as well so i imagine the film is even darker:eep:

I haven't seen it yet either, but I expect all the things everybody in the world is going to complain about. This is the longest book and will have the most changed and cut out, and I assume many characters will appear on screen for 10 seconds and then never again. A lot of fans will freak out and be all WORST EVAR, but they can't make it 23.6 hours long :x_x:

I'm excited for it. I'm glad to hear you liked it =O

I loved that new girl character - the blond/white haired girl that is a bit quirky. Her character is absolutely adorable in every manner. Her character is just so - real.

I've read all the books except the first 3 (because the movies were good enough), and I haven't been able to read this book in years. I just utterly loathed it -- the pacing was bad and as stated, it was the longest book.

I ended up reading the wikipedia article about it to find out the plot details (no spoilers in this post). What I will say is that I will be going to watch it tonight, thankfully in a rare large blob of people. Finally!

Harry Potter!

i am going to see it tonight (in IMAX also)...it looks awesome from the previews and the actors seem to be growing just as i had pictured them in the books. i read OoTP when it first came out and i thought i should reread it to catch up but decided against it

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I loved that new girl character - the blond/white haired girl that is a bit quirky. Her character is absolutely adorable in every manner. Her character is just so - real.

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Luna, yeah, shes surely different

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I've read all the books except the first 3 (because the movies were good enough), and I haven't been able to read this book in years. I just utterly loathed it -- the pacing was bad and as stated, it was the longest book.

I ended up reading the wikipedia article about it to find out the plot details (no spoilers in this post). What I will say is that I will be going to watch it tonight, thankfully in a rare large blob of people. Finally!

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BLASPHAMY

All of the past movies i have hated (number 3 was bearable) because they make them WAY too fast, and dont go into details.
With HP5 they miss out Quidditch, which im annoyed at, and im really not expecting much from it.

So, this movie is dark, fast, and stylized. Oh wow, MTV style editing in Harry's nightmares! Extreme close-ups of eyeballs! How totally rebellious and edgy! Unfortunately the plot was completely raped by the screenwriter, who pretty much strung together the entire story hoping it would work without putting any damn effort into making it connect in any way. Also, key events that took the span of many pages in the book were pretty much reduced to minute long clips with no emotional response whatsoever. For example, (SPOILER)Sirius' death...so yeah, he's dead. Oh well. No bother mentioning it again. All that heart-wrenching dialog between them earlier, and yet Harry doesn't bother to show remorse at having lost his only father figure.

Key characters such as Luna, Sirius, Tonks, Bellatrix were reduced to one-dimensional plot points that had pretty much one characteristic, be it insane, quirky, sad, or evil, and no back story or explanation as to why they are there. Half of them just come out of smurfing nowhere, like Bellatrix. Cho is only there to kiss Harry and make a nice, loving scene....and then we never see her again. It's just ridiculous, and it's horrible writing, especially considering the source material is so intricate and involving.

As a functional story with worthwhile characters, conflict, and drama this film fails. As a visual orgasm for ADD America, it works. Good job guys, you ruined my favorite book of the series.

yeh, even thought the books are out, you may want to spoiler tag you blurb on Sirius. Yeah, I see what you mean through this rant, but how else would they have tact the long book into the movie? It is the problem with screen writing, especially on time constraints :(

As I said in my LJ entry:

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WAH I AM SO DISSAPOINTED WITH THE NEW HARRY POTTER MOVIE. I SUPPOSE IF YOU DON'T READ THE BOOKS IT'S AWESOME, AND IT WAS STILL AN EPIC MOVIE, BUT THEY DIDN'T HAVE WEASLEY IS OUR KING OR CHO DATING OR FRED AND GEORGE'S SWAMP AND THEY BARELY MENTIONED THE GIANTS AND WHERE IS THAT SNITCH GIRL AND NEEDS MORE TONKS AND (SPOILER)WHEN SIRIUS DIED HARRY WAS LIKE "NOOOO oh wait nvm lolololol! :]"

Waaaaaaaaaaaah. I am a broken shell of a girl!

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I felt like they left out so many great details, like St. Mungos and everything. The movie was still decent, but this was probably the best book in the whole series after HBP and if they took out the :skull::skull::skull::skull:ty 1 hour vignette of stuff that Umbridge didn't even DO in the book (Wow, chasing the Room of Requirement, how COOL!) and upcloses of EYEBALLS (Hahah, GooeyToast) and Voldemort in a sexy suit, and including even just freaking WEASLEY IS OUR KING, I would have been so much happier. And what was up with Harry when (SPOILER)Sirius died?! Jesus christ, he was like WAAAH MY ONLY FATHER FIGUR- wait nevermind, I'm going to give a mushy speech about fighting for a cause now.

With that said, I hope Dumbledore can get his head out of his butt for the next movie, since he has such a major role in it. He's so unbelievable in these movies.

But still, despite my QQ whiny rant, it was still an enjoyable movie. It's just that it was more of a giant cinematic fight scene than a movie. Sorry, makers of Order of the Phoenix movie, Vegeta says he wants his Super Saiyan back.

PS: One good point of the movie was lots of hot Fred and George. I was not dissapointed in that aspect.

I wouldn't expect people to come into this thread without having seen the movie first, so unless they want it spoiled that's their fault. But I'll tag it anyways.

Books and movies are entirely different creatures. Comparing the two is a fools errand. Or something.

I agree. I'm not denying that films are going to make sacrifices, but when you completely ignore any kind of emotion or backstory at all, it just makes for a bad film, which is what I expressed my opinion on. Even though I was never a big fan of the first four, at least they managed to be coherent as a whole.

I think the only movie that was accurate to the book was the first one, to be honest. I think the problem with each movie is that it can't balance between serious and fun and image and script. Each movie is either a total joke (lol Prisoner of Azkaban!), or up it's own butt in serious SUPER SAIYAN HAAAAh action. And it's either all QQing script, or just, as I said, SUPER SAIYAIN HAAAAAH! BEHOLD MY GIANT WATER BALL!

I don't know, the more I watch PoA, the more I like it. Cuaron did a great job directing, and though a lot was skimmed over and changed from the book, I find that it works well as a separate entity. And yes, the first two did remain true to the books, but then again those books were much shorter, and aimed more towards kids.

As a side note, am I the only one who hated the way Luna was portrayed in the film? It seemed to me like she was spaced out of her mind the entire time like she was high or something. And what was with that horrible grin she had on all the time? It made me cringe.

Edit: Also I forgot to mention that those bastards left out Dung. And Kreacher had two scenes in the entire movie, and played no part at all in the end. Anyone who's read the book would know why this was a horrible decision.

Luna and Neville were the only ones I actually did like in the movie. Ron didn't even have a chance to be interesting because there. was. no. WEASLEY IS OUR KING. :[

I have a feeling that they ran out of money while doing the crazy special effects with the Death Eaters, so they decided to scrap even trying to include Quidditch, and instead used the same clips over for about an hour. I think my theory is quite accurate.

Lol, just finished watching it 30mins ago. Was prety good except I was expecting all those things on the wall :P. They just left some parts out, but oh well.

I say things just incase of spoiling.

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Luna and Neville were the only ones I actually did like in the movie. Ron didn't even have a chance to be interesting because there. was. no. WEASLEY IS OUR KING. :[

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Neville was decent, except for the fact that they completely failed to even mention the parallels between he and Harry. (SPOILER)No prophecy, St. Mungo's, or Bellatrix. Just a mention of the fact his parents were tortured. Well thanks for that information guys.

Yeah, that last scene was such a disappointment.

(SPOILER)Harry: Hai dmbld0r so i guezz that 1 of us haz 2 dye?
Dumbledore: Yup. It's cuz I luv you, k?

That wasn't it at all. :[

But yeah, it was a shame with Neville because he's a really good actor and plays Neville perfectly, but they don't give him any opportunity. Same as Ron. I don't know why he's even around anymore in the movies, he says 2 lines besides "BLOODY HELL!" maybe per movie.

But to say something positive, I really think the Umbridge was spot on. There was just... too much of her. xD

Yeah, she was good enough. My only criticism is that to me she was never menacing, and that the actress who portrayed her went a bit overboard on the smiling and girlyness. I was hoping for more of the toad look.

my gawd guys!! you really are laying into this one arnt yah!
unfortunetly i havent seen the film yet but iv read the book so i dont mind the spoilers! i loved ootp my fav book of the serise and im totally bugged that i cant see the film yet!(as most of you know if you use irc!) but reading what you are saying i have to admit that im probably gonna be bummed as what iv seen in clips show me that they kept to the book on most parts!(speacaily umbridge) but apparently that most of it has been left out to!
the quiditch was important i think and they left it out you say!??!
nooooooo!
Chos involvement was numbed down??!!
what???
the cho thing has totally pissed me off! when people see HBP they will be all like(SPOILER)what the hell! why is Ginny with harry now? What the hell happend to Cho?
that fight with Cho was impotant!

p.s(really wanna see the film! please help me with copies!!)

I try not to compare the movies to the books too much. There's no chance that it'll have everything, and I go in expecting it to miss quite a few things. I believe, however, that this movies missed many things that may very well become key plot points. Spoilers to follow, I suppose.

1. I was appalled that the conversation between Harry and the Dursleys about Dementors was dropped. Aunt Petunia's intervention in the conversation showed an important aspect of her character. She knows more about the wizarding world than she lets on, and we didn't get to see that in the movie.

2. Why the hell did they all but ignore everything that happens in Grimmauld Place before they go to Hogwarts? Kreacher was a last minute addition to the script 'cause Rowling told the director it was a bad idea to leave him out, but they left out the blasted locket! I had hoped that, perhaps, people with a little more insight into the series might have been working on the script. Anyone paying attention can figure out that it's very likely that the unopenable locket found in Grimmauld Place is the real Horcrux that Harry and Dumbledore meant to find in HBP.

3. Sure, leave out the two-way mirror after Rowling confirmed that it's going to return in book seven. Yeah, real smart.


4. "Give her hell for us, Peeves." Sure, the Weasley twins' grand exit was pretty cool, but it wasn't as grand as I would have hoped. They could have at least mentioned the Portable Swamp (which was cooler than the fireworks), and I'm severely disappointed that they didn't interact with Peeves at all.

5. I can't believe the Love Room is without significance. Skipping over that might have been a mistake. Time will tell.

6. Why the hell couldn't they just go ahead and give the whole prophesy? Seriously, it's only a couple extra lines. It also might have been a good idea to explain that Dumbledore was the one who heard it. Having Harry hear the prophesy from someone else was unnecessary, and it just means extra explaining in the next movie when its revealed that Snape was the one who overheard it. By the way, nice job with the complete lack of explanation at the end.

7. As far as I remember, Sirius was not hit with Avada Kedavra. He was blasted through the veil by a powerful curse. It might have been stupefy, but I'm not entirely sure. I'd have to go check, and I fully intend to. Either way, if, as many people suspect, the Deathly Hallows lie beyond the veil, having Sirius hit by the Avada Kedavra curse might pose a little problem, especially if the return of the two-way mirror has anything to do with Harry getting in touch with Sirius from beyond the Veil.

8. Completely truncating the ending is to be expected at this point, but I was still disappointed. There was a lot of oversimplification, and Harry was much too content after Sirius's death.

Naturally other things were cut out. While I, too, missed Weasley Is Our King, but some things had to be dropped, and Quidditch is an easy way as, in the grand scheme of things, it has little impact on the overall plot, even if it is one of the more amusing parts of the book.

I give them props for setting up the Ron/Hermione and Harry/Ginny relationships better than they have in previous movies. Although I don't exactly believe that the previous movies were shipping for Harry/Hermione, I think it's a good idea to get some serious foreshadowing in there, especially since those relationships begin to come together in the next book.

For someone who has only seen the movies and not read the books, I expect the movie was perfectly fine. For those of us who have read the books, we know how much was cut out, and that alone makes it a big disappointment. The only thing I really like about this movie is that they got the tone right. It was a huge step towards the darker themes pervading in the book.

The thing that pissed me off with Kreacher (SPOILER)is that he is part of the whole reason that Sirius DIED! He's the reason then went to the Ministry of Magic. Hermoine told Harry that they needed to go into the fire to check (SPOILER)if Sirius was there to make sure it's not a trick, and if he wasn't there, they would go. Kreacher hurt Buckbeak due to Bellatrix's orders (remember how he left around Christmas?) (SPOILER)so that Sirius would stay in the attic, then he told Harry "Oh, Master is gone for many hours..." so that he'd leave. That whole thing was left out.

They originally left Kreacher out of the movie entirely, so I'm glad we got to see him at all.

As others mentioned, comparing books to the movies can't exactly be done. Part of the reason I believe some things were left out were to encourage those who have only seen the movies to read the books. A lot of us would have loved to see scenes we thought were important, but maybe Rowling intentionally told the director to leave out some things. Overall I thought it was a great effort for the longest of the books. What didn't make sense to me was why the longest book had the shortest movie so far.

Things I think they got right:
- Darker tone of the movie
- Harry's inner struggle
- The department of mysteries scene at the end was as good as any of us could have hoped for in a movie setting I think.
- Voldemort. I can't help but love Ralph Fiennes as the Dark Lord
- Umbridge & Filch were rather comical
- Luna Lovegood is too cute

Things I wish I would've seen:
- Kreacher's pivotal role near the end of the movie. And they practically made it there too! I was sure it was coming and then the scene just cuts off with the entrance of Umbridge.
- Quidditch, but that was too be somewhat expected to be cut
- Lack of divulging the whole prophecy
- As far as I remember it was not an Avada Kedavra that hit Sirius


Also they decided during the first movie that Peeves would not make an appearance in any of them. His role in the books isn't very important. I'm pretty sure the spell was directed at Sirius by Bellatrix, but it was not an Avada Kedavra.

We'll see how David Yates handles the Half-Blood Prince.

I looked up the part where Sirius dies. The spell cast was never specified. Bellatrix's first curse misses, and Sirius taunts her.

"He was laughing at her. 'Come on, you can do better than that!' he yelled, his voice echoing around the cavernous room. The second jet of light hit him squarely on the chest."

Then he falls backward through the Veil. It was merely a jet of light. Had it been the killing curse, I believe we certainly would have been given a clearer description, such as the instantly recognizable green burst of light.

it was very dramatic.

The CG was pretty much awesome. A few things made me angry (kingsley saying Phinneas's line>:[ and then phinneas not being all stuck in disbelief at the end) in how they were not properly included, but it was a pretty solid movie.

you've all pretty much said everything except one thing that really bothers me

so at the beginning, Harry and Luna see the horse creatures and no one else can see them. Later they meet in the woods and see them again. Then next time, ALL of them are flying on them. When was it ever explained to Hermione/Ron etc about these creatures? So did they think they were just flying on air? Seriously like 2 minutes to explain that further would've made me feel better.

Either way 5th book dragged on, 5th movie felt rushed... the ultimate would be somewhere between the two.

THE JACKEL

Definitely the best one of the series. It felt like a movie, unlike some of the other ones. They conveyed Harry's pain pretty well, I thought, and perhaps it's just because I know the books too well, but the discussed jumpy and unexplained plot I thought was nonexistent. Probably because I knew it all, though.

I was expecting a bit more from the fight at the Ministry, but Dumbledore/Voldy's fight was good enough to make up for it. Not exactly sure why they had Sirius die an Avada Kedavra death and not the Stun Into the Veil death.

But a fun movie to see, and without a doubt the best in the series.

I thought the 4th movie was the best one, personally. They did a very good job with it. This one was probably the worst, in my opinion. After PoA of course.

just seen it!
its a good film i really enjoyed but there were mistakes that i just cant drop.
1. Cho! they did this really badly!(SPOILER)Cho and the irrerigation was a poor move. they made it sound Cho was a good girl an the verateserum was the problem. plus it makes Snape really look evil and not on dumbledors side which was a poor error.
2. Sirius(SPOILER)AVADA KEDAVRA??!! SERIOUSLY??!! why did they do that?? that was such a bad move there gonna regret that big time!
3. Harry(SPOILER)what the f**k was up with harry! his father figure and the only family he has left has just been avada kedavrad to death and harrys all like meh..
4. the profecy(SPOILER)ok..if i hadnt read the book i wouldent have understood it! plus harrys all calm and shiz when he should be going spare
5. dumbledor(SPOILER)not enougth involvment im afraid a few bits and peices were need in there and they left em out
6. Kreature(SPOILER)needed more of him
apart from that i loved the film. the last part was great and i loved it!

I guess now that the only hope that they can make this movie make more sense is that they actually filmed more stuff such as a longer scene telling the prophecy and other key parts and just hope that they shot some extra parts and just cut them for the theatre release and hopefully will put them in the DVD movie and hopefully takes out or has an alternate scene with Bellitrix killing Black without the Avada Kedevra curse, piss poor mistake on his part. I think this movie should have definately been way longer and Yates should have definately slowed the pace down and took his time with this plot because it was way to fast and it would not have hurt to make this movie longer. I don't think us Potter fans wouldn't mind watching this as almost a 3 hour movie, do you guys? Because when I first heard they were shooting this, I figured it would have to be about 3 hours to get the most important info in it. Its like others have said, I only understood the actual plot because I have read the book, and if I hadn't read the book, then it would have been kinda hard to follow. Anyway, I read that Yates is also shooting HBP, I am kinda dredding that. They should have just used Chris Columbus to direct them all, or hell let Cuaron do this one because he did a damn good job on PoA, which I think is the best one as far as plot goes and capturing the great details of the book. Yates, you go to hell, you to hell and you die! LOL. But I do dred HBP and hopefully he won't dissapoint again. I knew OotP would be a difficult one to shoot, but I think this is the worst one in aspect of including key book detail, but it is really good with the action and ass kicking.

Beautiful Movie.

Absolutely.

The plot was a little rushed... but does touch on many points the book does (imo could have touched on many many other things too...)

I loved Luna Lovegood... she was such a weirdo... but so adorably cute ^^~
Bellatrix Lestrange was perfect!
Dolores Umbridge... GOSH! I hate her so much more in the movie than I did in the book.

The final fight scenes was like "o-O Ragnarok Online eat your heart out" wonderful special effects.
...I did kinda feel an emotional string being tugged when (SPOILER)Sirius Black was killed, I didn't expect it despite reading the book... I was like... WHOAH!

Kreature... ;_;? I wanted to see Kreature in the film.

To early to make this post make sense. ~



As a movie alone if I were to give it a serious rating -~-~-~ ~~~ 7.5/10.

Heh, what did you guys expect? Its not as if anyone who is going to see it hasn't read the books, or at least knows what is going to happen anyways.

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just seen it!
its a good film i really enjoyed but there were mistakes that i just cant drop.
1. Cho! they did this really badly!(SPOILER)Cho and the irrerigation was a poor move. they made it sound Cho was a good girl an the verateserum was the problem. plus it makes Snape really look evil and not on dumbledors side which was a poor error.
2. Sirius(SPOILER)AVADA KEDAVRA??!! SERIOUSLY??!! why did they do that?? that was such a bad move there gonna regret that big time!
3. Harry(SPOILER)what the f**k was up with harry! his father figure and the only family he has left has just been avada kedavrad to death and harrys all like meh..
4. the profecy(SPOILER)ok..if i hadnt read the book i wouldent have understood it! plus harrys all calm and shiz when he should be going spare
5. dumbledor(SPOILER)not enougth involvment im afraid a few bits and peices were need in there and they left em out
6. Kreature(SPOILER)needed more of him
apart from that i loved the film. the last part was great and i loved it!

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1, 2, 5 (SPOILER) 1)Cho didn't do it in the book. Her friend Marietta did. Cho only felt bad in them because she liked marietta but she also liked harry, so she was conflicted. This way, harry can still feel okay about liking cho, since she didn't snitch of her own free will.

2) JKR never actually said what killed Sirius. You can't tell whether he was killed by avada kedavra or was knocked through the curtain. I feel this ambiguity was still there in the movie.

5) Dumbledore is supposed to be reclusive from harry in this book :P

Man, you guys are critical.

The movie, did all that it was supposed to do. It entertained. I was entertained. I mean, what do you expect from the Harry Potter movies? Aside from the 3rd film, NONE of the Harry Potter films come close to being "great" movies. They're popcorn flicks. And the 5th book was ENORMOUS. Did you guys really expect all the details to be included? They didn't include a lot of stuff, true, but they did get most of the major plot points across.

It was a good summer movie.

the movie was wonderful. i loved that they included snape's memory that was my favourite part.

also, people need to realize it's a movie BASED on the book. it got the main points across as movies often do.

yeah i did love the film! its just that i felt that parts were left out out i felt that neede to be included!
but i wasnt dissappointed! i did like the film! id defently watch it again

yeah it's totally a movie and if they had all the parts you wanted in, it would be a copy of the book and about six or seven hours long.

Big fans of the books are never going to see the films live up to their expectations. Jesus, get a grip, I'm sure the film is awesome with or without the missed-out bits.

The movies are just movie representations of the book. If you watched LOTR a great deal of detail from the books are removed, I think, but the movies themselves play out straightorwardly and properly.

Harry Potter will probably do that, albeit in its own way. For example, from the 5th movie:

(SPOILER)Cho Chang didn't start the fight with Harry leading to them breaking up, and so this means in the 6th book Harry will have to break up with Cho Chang (or they will just pretend that kiss never happened) and then kiss Ginny

In any case, the above example is just a pacing issue. I hope the movies won't need to completely fill up the next two movies with details to compensate though (they will have time to revamp the screenplays to take into context the content in the 7th).

It was good, but I think it had room to be better. I hate to be critical because I've read the books but I was a little disapointed at how some of the things worked out.

I really hope I didn't come off as one of those crazy people who are like OH MY GOD HARRY'S HAIR IS TWO SHADES LIGHTER IN THE MOVIE THAN IN THE BOOK THAT'S A TRAVESTY JK ROWLING IS GOING TO DIE! DESECRATIOOOOON! But there's a difference between a book not living up to a movie, as they almost always do, but the movie still being good (Goblet of Fire, LoTR, for example) despite missing a few details, and a movie just completely missing out on almost every single standout part and line of the book. xD

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and a movie just completely missing out on almost every single standout part and line of the book. xD

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That's exactly how I feel. It's not that I expected the movie to have everything in it, I'm just severely disappointed in what they chose to leave out in favor of other things.

so what you're sayin is it's not tom bombadil?

its true that valid pints were missed out but still..they can make up for it in the 6th film

gahnie you know that so isn't going to happen.

I saw it today and I did feel that it was rushed, they really hurt my favorite book into a movie, but it was better than GoF I suppose. What really irked me was
The problem with the film was that it seemed to be too rushed and like before they exaggerate with the magic. The actor for Vernon didn't portray his character well he wasn't mean at all and that's not really the only time. In the movie there seemed to be several scenes where they didn't portay the scenes from the book correctly, like Dumbledore at the hearing he had sort of a temper and didn't portay Dumbledore's personality of really always staying calm and harry sometimes at points too, sure he didn't feel sorrowful when he needed to be and called out for Dumbledore because he was avoiding him,in the book he did really want to speak of him, but he didn't show it as not to seem as you know...)
Umbridge didn't seem quite right enought, but i guess she was okay.

What I liked was the intro The department of Mysteries looked wicked cool,much better than I imagined and the Death Eater's entrance was tight. It was said that there was no Death Eater with a baby head or Ron being strangled by brains which I was looking forward to the most.
Luna Lovegood was just right and I was sort of expecting a short side to Hagrid's journey to the mountains. Of course I didn't expect the Ron Weasly is Our King Quidditch thing at all, but I expected at least to show Harry practicing and then get put off from the team.

Oh well it looks like I won't get hoxed into seeing the two other films.

Just got back from the 8.45 screening (I had planned to go to the 8.00 but it was sold out.) I thought it was pretty good, not as good and comprehensive as the book (which is, tbh, my least favourite of the series, yet still good. ;) ), but it has its moments, the usual smart-arse remarks from Ron... and Hermione! :eek:

(SPOILER)I did find the ending a tad cheesy though. As follows:
Harry: We've got something Voldemort hasn't... a huge wedge of cheese...
Voldemort: AARRRGGGGH! CHEESE! MY ONE WEAKNESS!
*film ends*

Also, Snape is still totally my favourite character... :D

I actually liked it alot. It felt rushed, like the last movie, but the book's mood actually made this good for the movie. Also, the acting was just incredible. The actors who played Luna and Umbridge just rule, and the regular characters' acting skills are improving with every movie.

EDIT: It sucks that "Weasley Is Our King" didn't make it in, though. Whatever.

As for the good points, Bellatrix Lestrange was perfectly cast. I actually said when I first read the book that Helena Botham Carter would be perfect. Aside from that the duel with Voldemort & Dumbledore was brilliantly done (if rather short though).

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I loved that new girl character - the blond/white haired girl that is a bit quirky. Her character is absolutely adorable in every manner. Her character is just so - real.

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Luna Lovegood :love:

I just came back from seeing it about 1 1/2 hours ago, and though it was decent, they left out a LOT, and it was really fast-paced. Yeah it made his confusion more believable but at the same time, it doesn't give the audience much time to breathe. Also, (SPOILER)they took out a couple of things that were necessary. Ron and Hermoine weren't made Prefects! Or is that in HBP? Hagrid didn't mention that the one giant lady was on his journey with him, in fact, all that was mentioned was that he went to see them. He didn't mention anything about the journey. Harry's reading into Snape's mind was too short and sweet, didn't show when Lily interrupts and I thought that was kind of important. Tonks wasn't introduced, so is it assumed that Harry already knew who she was? Cho wasn't the one who told Umbridge, it was her friend. Umbridge wasn't very developed at all, and Sirius' death happened so fast that it didn't register with me that he'd died until it showed Harry talking to Dumbledore in his office. They did the thing where Umbridge observes the teachers WAAAY too quickly, imho. I was so waiting for the scene between her and Gonagal xD.

All in all, I give the movie 7/10 stars. Too much was missing and it was too fast paced.

yeah thats true! but remeber its a huge book!
also i love Snape to! ima gonna have his babahs

i saw it yesterday, it was really good but it was short it wouldnt have been if it was any other book but its the longest book so i was expecting it to be the losgest film.i they missed quite a few things out but it was a really good film apart from the length. it could have just been a little bit longer

snape is by far the best character....the only others who come close are sirius and dumbledore

I thought it was good. I've liked all the movies so far. I knew once the books started to get long, the movies would start to tornado from one scene to the next to fit in as much as possible.

Although I enjoyed it, I do get an odd feeling from this movie... Like I was watching filler almost. After it ended, despite significant things happening, I still couldn't shake the feeling like nothing much did happen. It was like the whole movie was just for the final 5-10 minutes to set up the "beginning of the end," and the rest of it could go completely untold. That's really not accurate, just how it felt.

I still liked it, though. Many movie adaptions of books are so god awful, so it's nice that each of these is taken very seriously with huge budgets and time spent into them. The movies serve as visual candy for the bigger plots of the book, and the movie at least accomplishes that.

My friend saw the movie with some girl that's crazy for the SnapexHarry pairing for whatever reason. When (SPOILER)Harry says, "We've been at it for hours! If I could just take a break...!" and is all panting and sweaty, I guess she screamed in absolute joy. Harry Potter fans are the best thing since Star Wars fans :bigsmile:.

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My friend saw the movie with some girl that's crazy for the SnapexHarry pairing for whatever reason. When (SPOILER)Harry says, "We've been at it for hours! If I could just take a break...!" and is all panting and sweaty, I guess she screamed in absolute joy. Harry Potter fans are the best thing since Star Wars fans :bigsmile:.

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sort of puts a new spin on the master/pupil fantasy with the enmity between them oooh la la

Book>Movie.

(SPOILER)The fight between Voldy and Dumby did kill major but though

The movie made the book look good. (But only because of the pretty Patronus charms, and an amazing Luna Lovegood.) And boy, isn't that saying something, because Order of the Phoenix was the very worst book Rowling ever spawned.

You can say, ultimately, smurf all happens in both book (and consequently), movie. Sirius' death was so anti-climax it hurt. Emma Watson labours constantly. Daniel Radcliffe has been balded. Rupert Grint has an incessant pout. And Malfoy? My god. Where?!

I didn't have many expectations for this :p and I've become highly critical of Rowling since this book came out, so I can say -- meh, it was alright. Nothing great and nothing I'd watch if not for the sake of watching.

P.S. Voldemort was just ugly and funny. I don't know if it was meant to be scary. The one other thing that was brilliant, though, was Bellatrix Lestrange. Her break-out from Azkaban and laughter just gave me the chills.

Hang on, in PS, Harry remembers a green FLASH, not so much a jet, am I right?

I'm pretty sure that it wasn't the killing curse, otherwise the description would have been a bit more green - I mean the killing curse is kind of a big thing.

Haven't seen the movie yet, am nervous about Luna, she doesn't look like how I imagine her at all, but everyone says she is fantastic, so if she's a good actress the appearance won't matter.

Also: Helena Bonham Carter as Bellatrix looks PERFECT. Squeeeeee, they got her right!

of course in the book it was ambiguous as to what happened to black, maybe in the movie she told them to reveal it early and that's what happened all along, we'll just have to wait and see.

luna lovegood, though she may look different from what you imagined, should be easy for someone to portray....just gotta be a space case.

The reason why I didn't like any of the first four movies, except the first, is because of Dumbledore. In the first one, he's exactly as I imagined, but the last three (And possibly four), his character has been rather cold and distant, most unlike the calm and kind Dumbledore. He's always supposed to be relaxed, and only shows signs of anger when he is trying to save someone (Like with Barty Crouch JR., or Voldemort in the fifth movie). I find the guy who plays Dumbledore rather scary, but I might still see this movie just because I've seen the other four.

that's true the new actor for dumbledore seems more severe, and his voice is a bit too strong. he does a good job in my opnion, but you're right about him not being as good as the original actor...too bad about death etc.

AYE. Dumbledore is so UNIMPRESSIVE. You take someone like Gandalf, who's pretty much the omniscient equivalent of Dumbledore, and he's so amazing. You feel his power. Dumblydoorrrreeee is just an old man to me.

Seriously. Just the other day, I was thinking that Ian Mckellen would have made SUCH an amazing Dumbledore.

But to be Dumbledore after Gandalf would've been such a degeneration. The thought crossed my mind, but it can never be!

well yeah...of course he would i wonder if they tried to get him

I think that McKellen said that he would not want to be Dumbledore (he was never offered the part, but was close to the decision, apparently, and knew before it was released that Mike Gambon was). I think he said somewhere that he would interested in playing a different role later in the series (though at this point I'm not sure what that would be - two movies left... the Muggle Prime Minister as a cameo? Scrimgeour? I guess I can wait four days to find out the other new characters.)

I noticed the dumbledore thing as well. The first one was aloof and calm. but hte second actor shook someone. I knew the real dumbledore would never do that. Angers me. But what can you do.

I agree that the new Dumbledore is too aggressive. He often says lines in a way that make my mouth go all lopsided. In the new movie, he even yells at all the students "Don't you have studying to do!", and book-Dumbledore would never shout at the student body like that.

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I agree that the new Dumbledore is too aggressive. He often says lines in a way that make my mouth go all lopsided. In the new movie, he even yells at all the students "Don't you have studying to do!", and book-Dumbledore would never shout at the student body like that.

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He'd never need to, because they all have a huge amount of inherent respect and reverence for him.

Ive only seen the movies and now im definatly going to start reading the books now....over all the movie was ok on par with the rest but yeah as a person whose only seen the movies it felt like one huge set up for things that are about to come because at the top of my head the only positive thing they accomplish is now everyone believes (Well the ministry more importantly) that Voldemort is back!

Thar fight between Voldemort and Dumbeldore reminded me exactly of the one between Orichimaru and the 3rd Hokage in Naruto with all the spells and summonings (if you can call that lol)

but yea overall good movie the only major noticable rushed thing in the movie was the death of Sirius really! Damn though those 2 hours did fly by lol

edit: and the actor who plays ron said he was dissapointed on the whole missing out of quidditch stuff but he said they're going to do it in the next film.....might be possible because david yates is directing again....

I thought the first Dumbledore sucked too (not to speak ill of the dead or anything).

Of course Ian McKellen would have been a great Dumbledore, he's Ian McKellen. I would pay to hear him read through a phone book and I'm sure others would do the same.

I would normally complain like I do about every movie, but I realize there is only so much they can do with so much materials. That being said, I noticed how often times they change situations where Harry gains new insights by having another character or Harry himself have the revelation (Harry's revelation about Voldy being unable to love was originally explained by Dumbledore). The movie had it merits though and it was awesome to see Dumbledore and Voldy duke it out though not as impressive as I imagined it. I was also upset at how passive and weak the DA students were while fighting the Death Eaters. I know students should not be able to handle full grown wizards so easily, yet in the book they at least put up much more of a fight than in the movie. To be honest only Harry really got to show his talent.

I liked the fact that Umbridge was easy to loathe in a much similar manner to the novels.

There wasn't enough Hagrid. :{

I quite enjoyed this movie. Although, the one thing that irritated me so so much was how they pronounced "Lestrange". :( Why would ANYONE have a name like that? WHY.