Dissidia Impressions *MAJOR SPOILER*

This is just a thread for us to discuss our thoughts about Dissidia as you play through. I don't want to exclude those who haven't finished the game yet so please try to use spoiler tags if you may for anything concerning the story.

I've played through half the heroes in Story mode and haven't used my points to unlock anything yet. I really love the minor "on the go" game mechanics. The game feels a bit reminiscent of TWEWY with all the extra little specials and unlockables. The battle system is just as I imagined but works so much better in practice than I thought it would so its been really great.

Impressions of characters so far:

Cecil - Pretty powerful and once you really start to customize his skills and get use to the Job switching is an evil and broken SOB. He's pretty combo friendly...

Tidus - Love his aerial superiority but cannot get used to dodging to save my life thus his major strength is lost to me I'm afraid.

Cloud - Very powerful but slow. Like Sephiroth, he seems to be normally slow and his abilites give him some lag. Am I the only person who feels his character model is lifted directly from Crisis Core? His animation for the Fire spells look identical to Zack using them in CC.

Firion - His HP attack being a long range attack seems to be a double edge sword. Especially since its so easy to dodge. Still he's fun to play with.

Onion Knight - Smurfing broken... He has Tidus' issue of having to heavily rely on the Brave System but due to his speed and combo friendly move set, I feel OK blows Tidus out of the water.

Favorite summons so far are Magus Sisters, Magic Pot, and Phoenix.

Im going through stories twice before moving on and right now Im on Bartz's and god does he suck for me lol

WoL- he was pretty good and Id say I will have him as ONE of my mains lol

Firion- he was ok but trying to hit someone with his hp attack is annoying lol

onion knight was so much fun because his dodging is so fast I can get behind and attack

Cecil(cessil)- is good once you get the hang of it but once you do it loses all the fun

Overall, I think it's a great game, with one exception.

The item system is seriously messed up. There are 3 primary ways to gain new items: Winning them as drops from opponents, buying them in the shop, or using the Battlegen system. While Battlegens are fairly common, they produce pitiful little accessories with minor boosts that are primarily used to trade for bigger things. To get armor and weapons, you need either to get drops (good luck with that, the drop rate is insanely low), or buy in the shop. Oh, and the items in the shop? Yeah, they cost an incredibly high amount of gil (compared to what your gil intake is), will be obsolete in about 5 levels, and half of them require trade accessories that I can't even Battlegen yet.

The rest of the game is fairly cool. Playing primarily with Bartz right now, though I've started Squall's story too. I have gotten 100% on the prologue and Bartz's Destiny Oddessey.

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Originally Posted by Wolf Kanno

This is just a thread for us to discuss our thoughts about Dissidia as you play through. I don't want to exclude those who haven't finished the game yet so please try to use spoiler tags if you may for anything concerning the story.

I've played through half the heroes in Story mode and haven't used my points to unlock anything yet. I really love the minor "on the go" game mechanics. The game feels a bit reminiscent of TWEWY with all the extra little specials and unlockables. The battle system is just as I imagined but works so much better in practice than I thought it would so its been really great.

Impressions of characters so far:

Cecil - Pretty powerful and once you really start to customize his skills and get use to the Job switching is an evil and broken SOB. He's pretty combo friendly...

Tidus - Love his aerial superiority but cannot get used to dodging to save my life thus his major strength is lost to me I'm afraid.

Cloud - Very powerful but slow. Like Sephiroth, he seems to be normally slow and his abilites give him some lag. Am I the only person who feels his character model is lifted directly from Crisis Core? His animation for the Fire spells look identical to Zack using them in CC.

Firion - His HP attack being a long range attack seems to be a double edge sword. Especially since its so easy to dodge. Still he's fun to play with.

Onion Knight - Smurfing broken... He has Tidus' issue of having to heavily rely on the Brave System but due to his speed and combo friendly move set, I feel OK blows Tidus out of the water.

Favorite summons so far are Magus Sisters, Magic Pot, and Phoenix.

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You can't dodge? I want to play you NOW :D

My first playthrough in the story mode was as Cecil, and he was ok. Some major weaknesses (at least early on--only played him up to level 12) is that he doesn't have a quick, reliable long ranged attack from the ground. Then my 2nd Story was Tidus, and he was awesome. So many of his moves dodge, so many of his moves can cause a 'chase' on hit, and he's pretty fast.

I got a lot better at dodging with Terra thank you very much... :p

Anyway, I just finished Terra and can safely say she is probably one of my favorite characters in this game and its not just the inner fanboy talking (maybe a little...) but she is so different from the others and requires so many different strategies that I had a blast going through her story.

She's a bit like Cloud except way more versatile. She has high Brave damage so she can easily break opponents and her array of spells give her great coverage from short to long range. Her Tornado move alone is one of the best defensive abilities in the game since they actually parry enemy attacks. I think only Jecht or perhaps Mateus could knock her out of the spell animation. Her EX Burst leaves a bit to be desired but her EX Mode is just unfair... Overall, like Cecil, she requires you to learn her abilities and get yourself a bit of a rhythm for her before she suddenly becomes totally super special awesome. :love:

I'm probably going to start Squall tonight and then move onto Bartz and Zidane and finish with WoL. After that, I'm debating about starting the next story part or playing through all the story modes to get 100% completion.

As for the item system. It doesn't completely bother me as I actually have quite a bit of cash now and I plan to put a good amount of time into this game so chances are the main item system will reward me.

You know, they have made Squall and Tidus much more tolerable characters then in their original games.

And after seeing a certain fight scene with Garland, he is, and always be, from this point on, a badass.


So far, I've beaten it with Just the Warrior of Light, who as a character is pretty awesome. In game however? His only HP attacks both require some setting up just to land a hit. He's extremely difficult to use right off due to low number of attacks, and what he has is hard to hit with, something Tidus and Squall (I"m leveling characters I don't like now to get them out of the way first. :P) Don't suffer from.

I'm at the last fight in Tidus's story, so here's to happy hunting. Cheerio.

I suck at this game...I haven't quite gotten the hang of the fighting system yet, I guess. I started story mode with Cecil (haven't beaten any of the story modes yet), but I've played a bit with all the characters. I <3 Onion Knight and WoL, and Tidus rapes me everytime I try and fight him, especially with characters like Cecil.

I like all the FF lore in this game -- it's fun to run into all these random characters in the menus.

Does anyone have any tips concerning this fighting system? I can't even really practice because I own the weak enemies in 2 seconds and can't get anywhere once the enemies are just a bit more skilled.

Firion and Bartz are hot...just sayin'.

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Does anyone have any tips concerning this fighting system? I can't even really practice because I own the weak enemies in 2 seconds and can't get anywhere once the enemies are just a bit more skilled.

Firion and Bartz are hot...just sayin'.

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Get yourself some PP from free battles, and try to get ExDeath and Jecht. Use Jecht to practice Dodging (in free battle, make him a Random character, and when you master that, move to Tactician, and so on). Do the same with ExDeath for Brave and HP attacks, and how to retaliate against a defensive character. You can practice against Terra to understand magic attacks, and Bartz for mostly everything else.

But mostly try to learn how to Dodge at the right time, and how to retaliate with a high brave damaging combo.

OTT: I found the computer intelligence a little higher here than the Japanese Version, and the Arcade mode is a great way to perfect your abilities without loosing to much time.

ok said wtf ima do bartz story again for the second summon and I was doing the (SPOILER)kuja lvl 16 fight again and dodged all his attacks....(SPOILER)he used flare star when I missed him with 3700brave><

To hhr1dluv:

Dodging is good to learn, pursuing (using the triangle and R button to have your character dash towards an enemy) is also very important, especially against Ultemacia, Terra, and Kuja... Overall, its about learning distance and your character range.

My main advice is to learn not to do certain things. For instance, sometimes, its better not to follow through on a chase, especially when you are just starting out. Kefka and Ultemacia have some odd delay with their attacks so timing the dodge can be really tricky.

Sometimes, its better to actually try to whither your opponent down rather than go for the big finish. Learned this the hard way... there are just some battles where the opponents equipment makes it too difficult to try for a guard break at which point its better to cut your losses and just take their health down as much as you can with the Brave stat you have.

Also, abuse EX mode, don't always go for the Burst attack (the cinematic finisher) and just use your benefits from EX mode to help you out. Most of the characters have the Regen affect and some... like Terra and OK... seem to actually be better off using their multi attack bonuses from being in EX mode over using their Burst. But sometimes it is good to use Burst to take off some good health but mostly its a very quick way to whither down a high brave stat.

Also, abuse the summons. Summons like Phoenix, Magic Pot, Demon Wall, and Carbuncle are just not fair...

My other advice is that Cecil is quite possible the worst character to start the game with since he works so differently from all the others and requires some experience with the combat system to make him deadly. I'd suggest Cloud, Onion Knight, or Tidus for well rounded starter characters.

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You know, they have made Squall and Tidus much more tolerable characters then in their original games.

And after seeing a certain fight scene with Garland, he is, and always be, from this point on, a badass.

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Is it because Squall tries a little more? ;)

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To hhr1dluv:

Dodging is good to learn, pursuing (using the triangle and R button to have your character dash towards an enemy) is also very important, especially against Ultemacia, Terra, and Kuja... Overall, its about learning distance and your character range.

My main advice is to learn not to do certain things. For instance, sometimes, its better not to follow through on a chase, especially when you are just starting out. Kefka and Ultemacia have some odd delay with their attacks so timing the dodge can be really tricky.

Sometimes, its better to actually try to whither your opponent down rather than go for the big finish. Learned this the hard way... there are just some battles where the opponents equipment makes it too difficult to try for a guard break at which point its better to cut your losses and just take their health down as much as you can with the Brave stat you have.

Also, abuse EX mode, don't always go for the Burst attack (the cinematic finisher) and just use your benefits from EX mode to help you out. Most of the characters have the Regen affect and some... like Terra and OK... seem to actually be better off using their multi attack bonuses from being in EX mode over using their Burst. But sometimes it is good to use Burst to take off some good health but mostly its a very quick way to whither down a high brave stat.

Also, abuse the summons. Summons like Phoenix, Magic Pot, Demon Wall, and Carbuncle are just not fair...

My other advice is that Cecil is quite possible the worst character to start the game with since he works so differently from all the others and requires some experience with the combat system to make him deadly. I'd suggest Cloud, Onion Knight, or Tidus for well rounded starter characters.

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You know, they have made Squall and Tidus much more tolerable characters then in their original games.

And after seeing a certain fight scene with Garland, he is, and always be, from this point on, a badass.

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Is it because Squall tries a little more? ;)

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...Creepy.

BUt really, I think it's in part due to dialogue that is vastly superior to VIII's. For examnple, (This spoiler comes from a scene around the Middle of the Warrior of Light's Story)(SPOILER)WoL comes across Squall, who is traveling alone. They exchange a few brief words and squall says "We each must face our challanges alone. Thats what Cosmos told me." It wasn't exactly like that, and twas worded better, and when paired up with his English voice actor, comes across in the way they probably intended Squall to be, if that makes much sense. I can't really find good words to explain it. :P

ok I thought doing 777 damage would amount to something but I got nothing when I did it with terra


and btw that is an AWESOME smile lol

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...Creepy.

BUt really, I think it's in part due to dialogue that is vastly superior to VIII's. For examnple, (This spoiler comes from a scene around the Middle of the Warrior of Light's Story)(SPOILER)WoL comes across Squall, who is traveling alone. They exchange a few brief words and squall says "We each must face our challanges alone. Thats what Cosmos told me." It wasn't exactly like that, and twas worded better, and when paired up with his English voice actor, comes across in the way they probably intended Squall to be, if that makes much sense. I can't really find good words to explain it. :P

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You mean the way he's always been :p

That scene is more amusing after you play through Squall's story. Anyway, I just finished Squall's chapter. I really like Squall, he's got some weakness' (made very apparent in his battle with Ultimecia) but overall, he's actually quite nasty though I was sad to learn that the Bahamut summon isn't nearly as good as it should be unless its got some exploitative ability I'm unaware of.

Bartz is definetly one of the funnier stories and unlike some of the other "funny" stories, its intentional! :jess:

Bartz has proven to be one of the hardest character to use. His chapter has also proven to be one of the most difficult for me. He doesn't seem to gain levels quickly like the others and I can't seem to get 2 AP from battles like the other characters despite having similar equipment set ups. His abilities also cost quite a bit so you quickly find yourself making really tough decisions. He's also cursed with every other mime class problem in the main series and has very "average" stats. On the bright side, he can equip almost anything except for character specific gear. His summon is also pretty neat. His starting skills seem quite good in the beginning but they lack the flow of other characters so you have to be really careful how you set him up. Hopefully, I'll finish his chapter in the morning once my PSP recharges and I get some rest.

Also, Favorite lines in the game so far...

(SPOILER)Kefka: (talking about Sephiroth) He's just another sadist with a god complex. Whats so special about that?

Bartz: Holy Cosmos! It's a talking rock!

I HAVE DREAMS!


DREAMS WORTH DYING FOR!


Yeah I cant wait to get Dissidia in 7 days, you people all suck. D:

yea I beat terras twice last night and she really is cheap lol, but I could see her as my magic user

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...Creepy.

BUt really, I think it's in part due to dialogue that is vastly superior to VIII's. For examnple, (This spoiler comes from a scene around the Middle of the Warrior of Light's Story)(SPOILER)WoL comes across Squall, who is traveling alone. They exchange a few brief words and squall says "We each must face our challanges alone. Thats what Cosmos told me." It wasn't exactly like that, and twas worded better, and when paired up with his English voice actor, comes across in the way they probably intended Squall to be, if that makes much sense. I can't really find good words to explain it. :P

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You mean the way he's always been :p

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Yeah, only far less forced and well written. :p

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You mean the way he's always been :p

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Yeah, well written.

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Fixed it for you ;)

Just finished all ten heroes. Going to play through story mode again to collect extra stuff and level.

Bartz is tricky to use but he is fun (SPOILER)(though fighting that high level Kuja manikin sucked...).

Zidane is basically a cross between Tidus and OK. Very combo friendly, great aerial superiority, not very powerful but can Brave break surprisingly well. He's got quite a few tricky projectiles too which threw me off considering I never got to fight him with decent levels.

WoL, was very awkward after playing as all of the other specialty character for so long. It took awhile to adjust to him for me and he pretty much won my vote for hardest story mode.

I decided to play through all the story modes again to collect the sealed off loot and raise some levels. I also unlocked the villains. Kefka is fun to play but doesn't have access to all of his really nasty spells though his blizzard spell is pretty fun.

Golbez is a cheap SOB and I love him for it... I'll play the rest later, though leveling them might be a bit time consuming.

I just need to finish story mode and unlock Shantatto (sp?) and Gabranth (His voice seems a bit off or maybe I just haven't played XII in awhile...)

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You mean the way he's always been :p

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Yeah, well written.

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Broke it beyond repair, due to my strong desires to be penetrated by the gunblade, for you ;)

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Anyway, as I said, both Tidus and Squall have become decent characters, Squall consistantly showing a depth in his dialogue that completely lacked in his game. (The only thing I recall him saying in VIII that had any real meaning was the whole 'No right and wrong, only two sides' thing.)

Though yes, out of the three stories beaten, WoL is definately the biggest pain in the ass of them, and he's the first one I did. It's not that he's awkward to play as after playing the others, it's that he has no reliable HP attacks at early levels. Hell, he hasn't learned any and I have him at around 25 right now.

I lucked out and got some really good equipment that he seems to be the only one able to wear which really boost his Brave stat and Hp. I wish I had discovered his long rang Hp attack earlier cause it would have saved me so much time.

The thing that makes his story mode so difficult (besides having the highest amount of battles next to Bartz) is that most of his random encounters are equiped with this obnoxious accessory that raises their Brave as they raise their EX gauge. It makes Brave Breaking damn near impossible and them acquiring an EX Core becomes an almost game over depending on who you are fighting against. (SPOILER)Not to mention his high level optional encounter is with CoD. That was fair, the most close range heavy character versus someone who has tons of long range Hp attacks and she gets to start with a huge boost of Brave at the start of the encounter... She just needs to break you once and then she will have enough Brave to instant kill you... Only Bartz and Tidus had similar broken fights against Kuja and Kefka respectively.

Playing through Cecil's story arc again with a better understanding of the combat system (and full dark gear) Cecil is just too much fun for me. He flows so much better and I now know how to counter his weaknesses better. Hopefully I can gain his uber powerful ground based Dark wave attack or his Paladin form's holy projectile. :love:

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...Creepy.

BUt really, I think it's in part due to dialogue that is vastly superior to VIII's. For examnple, (This spoiler comes from a scene around the Middle of the Warrior of Light's Story)(SPOILER)WoL comes across Squall, who is traveling alone. They exchange a few brief words and squall says "We each must face our challanges alone. Thats what Cosmos told me." It wasn't exactly like that, and twas worded better, and when paired up with his English voice actor, comes across in the way they probably intended Squall to be, if that makes much sense. I can't really find good words to explain it. :P

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You mean the way he's always been :p

That scene is more amusing after you play through Squall's story. Anyway, I just finished Squall's chapter. I really like Squall, he's got some weakness' (made very apparent in his battle with Ultimecia) but overall, he's actually quite nasty though I was sad to learn that the Bahamut summon isn't nearly as good as it should be unless its got some exploitative ability I'm unaware of.

Bartz is definetly one of the funnier stories and unlike some of the other "funny" stories, its intentional! :jess:

Bartz has proven to be one of the hardest character to use. His chapter has also proven to be one of the most difficult for me. He doesn't seem to gain levels quickly like the others and I can't seem to get 2 AP from battles like the other characters despite having similar equipment set ups. His abilities also cost quite a bit so you quickly find yourself making really tough decisions. He's also cursed with every other mime class problem in the main series and has very "average" stats. On the bright side, he can equip almost anything except for character specific gear. His summon is also pretty neat. His starting skills seem quite good in the beginning but they lack the flow of other characters so you have to be really careful how you set him up. Hopefully, I'll finish his chapter in the morning once my PSP recharges and I get some rest.

Also, Favorite lines in the game so far...

(SPOILER)Kefka: (talking about Sephiroth) He's just another sadist with a god complex. Whats so special about that?

Bartz: Holy Cosmos! It's a talking rock!

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Pay attention to your calendar bonuses. You probably had AP+ days when training the others.

Bartz is awesome. He is my best character so far (haven't played Terra, because I want to relish the anticipation of playing her awesomeness). He is a little more complex than the others, but he is massively overpowered when you know how to use him.

His EX mode seems pitiful. He has only 1 ability besides Regen. But that ability is Goblin Punch, which is the most overpowered Brave Attack in the game. Seriously. Do the Triangle dash toward your opponent, and trigger it. It has no cast time, at all, and, since it's a brave attack, it can't be blocked. If you're in close range, it always hits, and you can then cancel the EX burst, and use it again. It is a combo Brave and HP attack, so you can just spam the hell out of it. It will wipe lower level characters in a heartbeat, and anyone who is the same level as you suddenly finds out just how scary it's bonus (massive attack boost against same level enemies) is. Against higher level enemies, it is one of Bartz's best survivability because it can hit and knock them back, giving you time to Regen lost health or just take a breather from some of the psychotic attacks from the 80+ rare enemies in Shade Impulse.

I noticed the AP thing later I'm afraid. :sweatdrop:

Bartz is fun but there are times I felt he just couldn't use some of the skills as well as his counterparts. For instance, he gets Terra's Holy spell but due to his lack of long range abilities beyond it, he suffered from its weaknesses more than Terra did since she has several other long range abilities that are good for accompanying it (or Tornado to block the reflected attacks and enemy counter attacks) so you really had to learn to use his skills a bit differently. Though Cloud and Firion's move seem to really compliment each other, though I would prefer having Squall's cause he's a beast on the ground.

Though I agree on Goblin Punch just owning :cool:

You get Flare to chain from Holy, eventually. Giving him an HP chain move (the only one he's gotten by level 85 so probably the only one he can get) to use at range, and there are times when it comes in handy.

His combos work differently than the characters they are derived from, but I don't think they're worse. Slidehazzard is an excellent air attack. It closes with the enemy, does good combo damage, and finishes with a wall rush. Climbarrel is a nice Cloud/Squall combo that does a rush toward his opponent, moving into Squall's gunblade combo.

Oh, and he also gets Terra's Flood Spam.

These early levels are really hard. >.<

I didn't get a damned second HP attack with Firion until level smurfing 30!

You guys must be booking it with the game cause most of my characters are not even level 20 yet except for three of them.

Ive done everyones story twice except for tidus which Im in the middle of

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I didn't get a damned second HP attack with Firion until level smurfing 30!

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Hate to break it to ya but Firion doesnt get much better either.


Straight Arrow is pathetically easy to dodge and is best used only as a block counter.

Weaponsmaster is only good if your opponent is stupid enough to get himself stuck in a corner, which is VERY rare on Ad Hoc.

Your only semi-decent moves are Double Trouble and Shield Bash, overall, poor Firion doesnt have much going for him.

Ooh, at level 100 you get three new abilities. You can only equip one at a time, but they convert the Exp you would have gotten into either HP, Brave, or EX Force. So each HP attack will revitalize your character a little.

In the case of Bartz, I'm trying Exp to EX Force first. It lets him last longer in EX Mode for his Goblin Spam.

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traight Arrow is pathetically easy to dodge and is best used only as a block counter.

Weaponsmaster is only good if your opponent is stupid enough to get himself stuck in a corner, which is VERY rare on Ad Hoc.

Your only semi-decent moves are Double Trouble and Shield Bash, overall, poor Firion doesnt have much going for him.

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You know, I feel Firion is being underestimated cause Double Trouble is easily his best Hp attack since he combos into it with either Rope Blade or his Axe Throw move. He actually has a high chance of Brave Breaking and inflicting damage at once which is pretty neat. Not to mention if he's in EX Mode, his Blood Weapons will restore his health based on the damage he inflicts with his Hp attack. That combination makes him really nasty in my book. In the hands of a skilled player, he would be very difficult to deal with. It does suck that he has the worst starting HP attack in the game though...

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traight Arrow is pathetically easy to dodge and is best used only as a block counter.

Weaponsmaster is only good if your opponent is stupid enough to get himself stuck in a corner, which is VERY rare on Ad Hoc.

Your only semi-decent moves are Double Trouble and Shield Bash, overall, poor Firion doesnt have much going for him.

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You know, I feel Firion is being underestimated cause Double Trouble is easily his best Hp attack since he combos into it with either Rope Blade or his Axe Throw move. He actually has a high chance of Brave Breaking and inflicting damage at once which is pretty neat. Not to mention if he's in EX Mode, his Blood Weapons will restore his health based on the damage he inflicts with his Hp attack. That combination makes him really nasty in my book. In the hands of a skilled player, he would be very difficult to deal with. It does suck that he has the worst starting HP attack in the game though...

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I do agree up till the last part, Kuja by far has the worst starting HP attack. In any case, Firion could be good, but with the mandatory logic of how you play and win in Dissidia, he has far too many flaws and exploitable weaknesses which he would get severely punished for in Inward Chaos or Ad Hoc.

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traight Arrow is pathetically easy to dodge and is best used only as a block counter.

Weaponsmaster is only good if your opponent is stupid enough to get himself stuck in a corner, which is VERY rare on Ad Hoc.

Your only semi-decent moves are Double Trouble and Shield Bash, overall, poor Firion doesnt have much going for him.

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You know, I feel Firion is being underestimated cause Double Trouble is easily his best Hp attack since he combos into it with either Rope Blade or his Axe Throw move. He actually has a high chance of Brave Breaking and inflicting damage at once which is pretty neat. Not to mention if he's in EX Mode, his Blood Weapons will restore his health based on the damage he inflicts with his Hp attack. That combination makes him really nasty in my book. In the hands of a skilled player, he would be very difficult to deal with. It does suck that he has the worst starting HP attack in the game though...

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I do agree up till the last part, Kuja by far has the worst starting HP attack. In any case, Firion could be good, but with the mandatory logic of how you play and win in Dissidia, he has far too many flaws and exploitable weaknesses which he would get severely punished for in Inward Chaos or Ad Hoc.

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I believe his lance combo->double trouble is better cause it gets more BRV attacks in before an HP

I really like how the characters parallel their originals, right down to the parting speeches by our favorite villains.

Sorry, hit the post button a bit early on this one.

That being said, despite the parallels, I am really impressed by the fleshing out they did to the characters, especially the tragic heros on Chaos's side. Jecht, playing his role through with Tidus, understanding that the war repeats forever, and treating it as one big game, where one side wins, then everything is reset. Golbez, fighting to aid his brother throughout the entire thing, and willing to accept the consequences for siding with Chaos when his time comes. Garland, caught in the wheel of time, and manipulating it as he did in Final Fantasy, yet also a prisoner of it himself.

It's an incredible job of bringing the characters to life. I only wish we had this much interaction with some of them in their original games. Such as Ultimecia.

I agree that the game has really shone some of the complexity and greatness of the FF villains. I've always like Emperor Mateus but seeing him in this title I really feel we get a much better understanding of his truen intent and level of evil. He's quickly becoming one of my favorite villains. Seeing the character bounce off each other shows really promising stuff, from Zidane and Bartz friendly rivalry to Terra and Cloud's soul searching together. Even the WoL is presented as this iconic figure, more like a mythic hero than a real human being and it actually works for the game.

I'm especially pleased with the parallels to the original games story and themes. Its created an odd "wholeness" with the series.

The Emperors authority in this game essentially topples most of the villians except for Chaos himself.


(SPOILER)

From the text boxes you learn that The Emperor is the mastermind behind most of the conflict taking place in this war, manipulating most of the FF villians for his own ends so he could overthrow Chaos.




Emperor = Best character in this game, plot wise.

I can already see DarkLadyNyara jumping for joy at this news. He has been quite impressive. :D

Eeeeeeeek my copy should be turning up today :D
Gotta do a review of it and then ill post my impressions!

you better hurry haha Ive done every destiny oddessey three times:P

this has only just come out in the Uk tho dont forget.

Tomorrow Sarah :P.


Speaking of it, my pre-order just got sent from Amazon, so Dissidia tomorrow for me, w00t.

Though i was kinda hoping i'd have finished FFIX beforehand, damnit, now I gotta divide the time.

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My other advice is that Cecil is quite possible the worst character to start the game with since he works so differently from all the others and requires some experience with the combat system to make him deadly. I'd suggest Cloud, Onion Knight, or Tidus for well rounded starter characters.

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Huh? I remember reading somewhere that Cecil is actually a really good character to start with, since he's not restricted to one fighting style (can switch between dark knight and paladin). That's from what I read though so I'm not able to talk from personal experience (unless my cousins get Dissidia for their PSP and they let me try it out).

He's just a bit awkward and the transforming can be a little confusing at times. Not to mention each form has its own weaknesses and strengths so I feel he's a bit of an overload when it comes to trying to pin down all the game mechanics in the very beginning. Once you get the hang of him he rocks. :cool:

I think Cloud or WoL are probably better starting points since they are both incredibly straight forward in play style. They lack the quirkiness of the other characters.

guys im actually concidering buying a psp cos of all this talk..

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guys im actually concidering buying a psp cos of all this talk..

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You should, Dissidia is a must have for any FF fan.


And while your at it buy Disgaea, Crisis Core, War Of The Lions and MHFU too.

To be honest, I bought a PSP for this game and its probably the second time in my life I bought a gaming system for one game and it was actually worth it (the other being my Wii) cause Dissidia is pretty damn awesome. Especially in its shameless fanservice. :cool:

To be honest Im half tempted to stop getting gameinformers cause they gave it a 6.5 and that dumb gerbil/rat movie game a 7....

Believe me, even though Play magazine loved it, I felt the review was more satire than a glowing reception. This game has not been doing outstanding anywhere. Most see it as being mediocre. To be fair though, this is a fanservice game and seeing as we are all fans, its not surprising we all adore it. :cool:

But then, it is Square's first attempt at a fighting game since, what, Ehrgeiz? Even without the fanservice, it's a pretty good game with solid mechanics.

I know people at work that say they would have got it if it wasnt for batman

So what features have had the biggest impact on you? Something you like or something you disliked?

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So what features have had the biggest impact on you? Something you like or something you disliked?

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It's the first PSP game that i've become addicted to enough to give me a neck cramp.

Wow so I havent been on this forum for like a year but i hunted down my password and such and here i am again anyway!

I use Cecil and Golbez
My Cecil is 100 already Golbez is lagging behind at 44 but oh well.
This game is done pretty well imo and well i love it, Onion Knight bugs me but he is pretty much the only one who does, and Shantotto (the Taru) as a FFXI Player I am proud to see she is broken *Shakes his fist* FOR I KNOW WHAT SHE DOES IN FFXI! Anyway thats about all i have to say, its the only PSP game I have done the Ad Hoc Wireless on as well
I would of liked to see a online mode that doesnt require you to have a PS3 however but oh well I will make do.

Ok, just one thing to add: I hate randomness with a fiery burning passion.

Your friend card comes with a randomly-assigned color that determines which gems can be battlegenned from you in Online or Friend Card battles. I got Red. I hate red. Apparently, there is no way to change this, without completely starting over.

Stupid, stupid, stupid Square...

I'll probably be resetting the data until I get one I like shortly, and then I'll probably never play again, because I won't want to go through all the stuff I've already done again.

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Ok, just one thing to add: I hate randomness with a fiery burning passion.

Your friend card comes with a randomly-assigned color that determines which gems can be battlegenned from you in Online or Friend Card battles. I got Red. I hate red. Apparently, there is no way to change this, without completely starting over.

Stupid, stupid, stupid Square...

I'll probably be resetting the data until I get one I like shortly, and then I'll probably never play again, because I won't want to go through all the stuff I've already done again.

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A miniscule gem in the tiny corner that you'll barely pay attention to bothers you that much?

I can understand but I also have OCD when it comes to minuscule bull:bou::bou::bou::bou:. Luckily my color works for my character so I don't mind.

I now have to give Terra more credit as a char, after playing Wolf Kanno's she is rather mean Im not gonna lie. Holy is a pain in my ass more so when it goes into Ultiama -.-

You're welcome :D

Your Cecil is pretty mean as well. :cry:

I'm really liking Gabranth, but I love high risk/high reward characters. I just need to start leveling people and abuse the Duel Coliseum.

Not a huge fan of the Ghost you give people being determined by your in-game tactics, if only because my tactics vary a lot if I'm playing a computer than if I'm playing a human. Flood-spam works fine for wiping out those pesky CPUs, but I don't want those tactics carried into my Ghost battles.

I was able to track down the source that said Cecil was an easy character to start with.

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Cecil -- “Style Maker”
His ability to switch between Paladin and Dark Knight allows him to excel at both Air and Ground style combat. He appeals to beginners because he's not limited to one style. Most of his attacks have auto-targeting, combined with his strength, beginners will most likely flock to Cecil.

Recommend: Starting Players who don't wish to limit themselves to one style of fighting.

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What they said about Cecil as well as this

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Warrior of Light -- “All-Rounder”
A difficult character to start out as, as all of his attacks are linear. By linear, I mean when he's directly above or below his opponent. His greatest attribute seem to be his defensive nature. Forcing the player to know plan their attacks carefully or end up beaten by a faster player.

Recommend: Advance Players, with a good sense of timing.

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got me thinking that Dissidia's fighting system is so complex that the "well rounded characters are good for starting out" rule didn't apply to this game.

I just felt like posting this since I wasn't able to cite my source last time.

>>> I finally got the game in my hands, and I had to buy a dirty psp to play it so this must be the most expensive game i`ve got in years..

Anyways the game is just what I expected and more, the whole chaos/cosmos story was a bit lame but this is a fighting game so Im just being picky here. The fighting system is very original, im grateful they didnt make this another Tekken or Soul calibur..
Tidus story/path was the most interesting one (im not surprised really)..

Finally, this game is a great FF1 tribute..

Randomly ended up buying a PSP today after flipping a coin a few times (don't ask) and it turned out to be a Dissidia bundle which was pretty random but nice. My thoughts after my first session:

first of all i smurfING HATE THE WAY

THEY ALL TALK LIKE THIS.

seriously why in gods name did they do it, did they record all the sentences in half parts because of sound file size restrictions and then piece them together very badly or something? Jesus it is annoying. Also I hate the voice acting, everyone apart from Tidus sounds exactly the god damn same only with a little difference in pitch, no variety whatsoever, dire.

Cecil's story was the first one I did, I didn't like Cecil all that much either. I mean I guess his moves get a little bit better when he levels up or something maybe but I didn't like his aerial attacks all that much and found his ground moves a bit too long to get going so easy to dodge. Maybe I am just bitter because Golbez was an absolute god damn prick who I never want to see again I don't know

Did Cloud's after that, generally lulzed at his emoness but find him a lot more fun to use than Cecil, is a bit slow but it doesn't matter 'cause he has a lot of moves that can close distance easily and have some nice attack power. I like his bravery attacks as well. After Golbez was pleasantly surprised to find Sephiroth eating :bou::bou::bou::bou: and dying in about 10 seconds. Story mode itself is pretty entertaining although I really hate how much the game tries to punish you for actually wanting to play well or complete goals. I mean I am not a proper OCD gamer who has to do absolutely everything in a game but the +1 DP challenges on fights are pretty fun imho and it pisses me off that you can only attempt it once without having SP taken off you for retrying. such bull:bou::bou::bou::bou:s

other than that was just fannying around in quick battle, favourite characters so far are Bartz and Tidus although I have no smurfing clue what the hell you are supposed to do to make blitz ace work, maybe my copy of the game is just duff but no matter what I press or when I press it the overdrive bar loves to time out every time, which is kind of failridden (edit: apparently it just likes to do that for me in quick battle, in story mode it worked like every time.) . Onion Knight is fun to use but his moves leave him wide open to get buttraped. don't like Firion, maybe he gets some better techs at higher levels but his whole crappy archery thing doesn't do anything for me. really want to unlock all the chaos people already playing as the evils was the main reason I wanted to get this game in the first place

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Story mode itself is pretty entertaining although I really hate how much the game tries to punish you for actually wanting to play well or complete goals. I mean I am not a proper OCD gamer who has to do absolutely everything in a game but the +1 DP challenges on fights are pretty fun imho and it pisses me off that you can only attempt it once without having SP taken off you for retrying. such bull:bou::bou::bou::bou:s

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>>> Is not a big deal, the only thing worth to complete the DP bonuses are the Summons and probably some Rosetta Stone, the rest are just some mid level equipment, PP and Gil..

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Story mode itself is pretty entertaining although I really hate how much the game tries to punish you for actually wanting to play well or complete goals. I mean I am not a proper OCD gamer who has to do absolutely everything in a game but the +1 DP challenges on fights are pretty fun imho and it pisses me off that you can only attempt it once without having SP taken off you for retrying. such bull:bou::bou::bou::bou:s

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>>> Is not a big deal, the only thing worth to complete the DP bonuses are the Summons and probably some Rosetta Stone, the rest are just some mid level equipment, PP and Gil..

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As an added note, Quicksave before the fight (or just enter and exit Customization), and you can reload as many times as you want without losing DP or SP. Quicksaves aren't deleted when they are loaded.

Is there some kind of method to unlocking the Ultimate Weapons for characters cause I seem to have magically unlocked every Exclusive Weapon except for the characters I use...