How do you feel about having children out of wedlock? I think it's okay in this modern day. I think epople turn out how they're gonna turn out regardless of their situation growing up. *snip*discuss
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How do you feel about having children out of wedlock? I think it's okay in this modern day. I think epople turn out how they're gonna turn out regardless of their situation growing up. *snip*discuss
I actually intend to produce a child out of wedlock on purpose. The idea that bastard children are even socially meaningful should be virtually out of our system by today's standards.
that and single parents. Seriously I don't know many nuclear families and the ones I do know, we've already talked to each other about how rare a sight we are.
I'm fine with it as long as the naming convention is neat.
I want to be a Snow.
I'm a bastard!
I was almost. I think my uber-religious (smurf your ulmats or w/e they're called) grandmother had a part in that.
Ü = Alt + 154 on number pad. :p
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Thank you alt master qwerty!
stfu nerds.Quote:
Originally Posted by NorthernChaosGodI don't believe you're from Winterfell.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bunny
I don't think it's a good idea. It'll ruin the life of the mother :stare:
I don't see what the big deal is that we have to invent a special label for them
I'm one and you all know how awesome I am
But you always know the mother of the child!Quote:
Originally Posted by Remon
because the word predates your skinny asian pokemon.Quote:
Originally Posted by kotora
I think it's okay as long as they are capable of caring for the child. Money doesn't necessarily have to be an issue either as long as the parents are determined enough. My parents were high school drop-outs and 20 years old when I surprised them, but they did everything they had to and I had a good childhood. In fact it's possible my dad was still married to his first wife and an alcoholic on top of that. If I were my mom I would have been like "wtf no I am aborting this thing nooo way" but she doesn't even approve of the morning after pill, so here I am. Everything turned out okay in the end.
Okay, Boba.Quote:
Originally Posted by Guardian XIIIstfu nerds.Quote:
Originally Posted by NorthernChaosGodI don't believe you're from Winterfell.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bunny
I want to be. Not I am. Do they not teach reading comprehension at your college? I wouldn't be surprised, California isn't know for its top notch education.Quote:
Originally Posted by NorthernChaosGodI don't believe you're from Winterfell.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bunny
Also I am a bastard.
I'm a bastard but my parents are marries
LOLSIXTEENTHCENTURYRELIGIOUSVALUES
Well you can't be one, so suck on that.Quote:
Originally Posted by BunnyI want to be. Not I am. Do they not teach reading comprehension at your college? I wouldn't be surprised, California isn't know for its top notch education.Quote:
Originally Posted by NorthernChaosGodI don't believe you're from Winterfell.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bunny
Also I am a bastard.
Point: me.
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Julian are you only trying to increase your post count?
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Originally Posted by Guardian XIII
If he is then that can be a symptom of something quite serious.
Or just boredom, in which case he should play more video games. :p
I'm only trying to increase my post count. Somehow NCG has a bigger one than me. I blame the picture threads.
I couldn't care less about marital state. It's having children out of financial ability to care for them that's immoral.
Yes. :colbert:Quote:
Originally Posted by Guardian XIII
I consider marriage to be meaningless to begin with, so I certainly don't care if people have kids outside of it. In fact, I think more people should have kids without getting married so we could figure out some better way of naming children, instead of wife and kids taking the father's name -- a vestigial of a primitive and disgusting time when women and children were property of Man.
And before anyone says it, hyphenation is ridiculous. Personally, I think people should just make up a cool last name for their kids and forget useless middle names entirely. This would dramatically increase the variation and awesomeness of last names.
Yes but that's investing even more power in the hands of people who like to name their kids Apple and Pilot Inspektor and Adolf Hitler etc.
I just recently heard of some famous dude naming his kids Moon Unit Zappa and Dweezil Zappa.
I'm also for this; it will make it easier for future generations to know which people to avoid.Quote:
Originally Posted by Raistlin
why do you consider middle names useless? at the very least, they are useful from an identification standpoint (I think you overestimate how many people would give creative last names to their children), and some people find them meaningful for religious or traditional reasons.
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Originally Posted by NorthernChaosGodI don't believe you're from Winterfell.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bunny
You all three have to be Lannisters. Only inbreeding can explain you pizza faced, mutant freak jobs.Quote:
Originally Posted by Guardian XIIIstfu nerds.Quote:
Originally Posted by NorthernChaosGodI don't believe you're from Winterfell.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bunny
:love:
Says the guy involved in a romantic tryst with his cars.
smurf you, I pray to the old gods.
"heard of some famous dude" Dude do not tell me you have no idea who Frank Zappa is! Frank Zappa Cover of Stairway to Heaven Possibly better than the original version.Quote:
Originally Posted by Guardian XIII
I'm a bastard born out of wedlock it's true. I have a hyphenated name Causer being from my Dad's side of the family, Smith being my mother's married surname (she never reverted to her maiden name after the divorce from my brother's father otherwise I'd be a Causer-Mansell I guess) I don't think being a bastard born out of wedlock is anything these days it's pointless to even call us bastards.
I can't imagine my mom and dad not being married and living together. It's such a weird thought to me.
Financially and legally, I think it's highly unwise to have a child out of wedlock, but aside of that I don't think it's morally wrong or anything. Even though growing up I was taught that it was.
My parents are together but arn't married.
I also have a hyphenated name from a couple of hundred years ago, when two people married and took their last names and put them together.
I like my last name but it's not like it matters, there's not much in a name apart from identification.
Apple is a wonderful name you philistine :mad2:Quote:
Originally Posted by Jiro
as is Adolf HitlerQuote:
Originally Posted by I'm my own MILFApple is a wonderful name you philistine :mad2:Quote:
Originally Posted by Jiro
If smurfing my Beemer up the tale pipe is wrong, I don't want to be right. :colbert:Quote:
Originally Posted by Bunny
I actually have no problem with the name Apple, it's kind of cute. But I was grasping at straws from the get-go, I needed more xDQuote:
Originally Posted by I'm my own MILFApple is a wonderful name you philistine :mad2:Quote:
Originally Posted by Jiro
EDIT: I forget the topic but IMAGINE IF two people with hyphenated names married and hyphenated their names again for the kids.
West-Horton-Causer-Smith OR SOMETHING AMAZING LIKE THAT. It gets even better when you add more names.
West-Horton-Causer-Smith-Hobbes-Moore-Rivera-Miller-Bieber-Garner. What a behemoth. You'd have to name the kid something short, like Joe.
Joe West-Horton-Causer-Smith-Hobbes-Moore-Rivera-Miller-Bieber-Garner. Kid is bitchin
I'm just happy my last name was included.
I think i have a bigger issue with people deciding to have unprotected sex out of wedlock while still admitting to your face that they don't want and can't handle kids. I think it comes with the territory, that if you're boning you should accept the biological fact that it's there to make babies.
As long as you responsibly bone with the acceptance that you could produce, and therefore need to properly care for a kid, kudos to you.
Probably doesn't help I'm in the army though. I've seen more one year marriages than one night stands in the last 5 years.
Wow lol you think too much a little here Dak. Though I love how the first two hyphenated names you can think of is the surname of Nikki's lil' girl and mine it's funny because I know the logic there but it doesn't half look like you've got weird ideas. Also as someone with a long hyphenated name (when asked for my full first, middle and surname in particular) I often have trouble fitting it in on forms because I have too many characters already. Given the number of characters in your own example of "West-Horton-Causer-Smith" the surname would NEVER fit on any forms. Also in your example you forget that Joe is ultimately short for Joseph and registering a child as being called Joe would mean registering him as Joseph if you wanted a short name you should probably look at names like Adam. I couldn't personally imagine having to write the name of "Joseph West-Horton-Causer-Smith" on all the forms when asked for full name. And heck thats without giving the kid a middle name.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jiro
You can name a kid Joe and not Joseph.
Bashir?Quote:
Originally Posted by NorthernChaosGod
Make that double. :colbert:Quote:
Originally Posted by I'm my own MILF
I just had a kid out of wedlock, she's wonderful and will have a mum and a dad. Just not together. :greenie:
I have an acquaintance from school who is about to have a kid. She hates her family and her boyfriend ditched her (two months til baby is here, what a hero) so I told her to give the kid his very own last name. I wonder how that will go.Quote:
Originally Posted by Raistlin
[She did post on Facebook wondering about what to do in the surname stakes, because she has a hyphen name but as I said, hates her family. So with any luck A NEW LEGACY IS BORN.]
That could cause trouble for her when it comes to getting the kid a passport for holidays ect.
Seriously. My passport was a nightmare because my mom's surname didn't match up ect and my dad was deceased. In the end I had to legally get my Mom's surname changed by Deed-poll. I wish I was smurfing kidding bout this.
Im a bastard :) My mum and dad were together but not married. The later married and had my 2 brothers, who are bastards but in entirely different ways.
On the subject of hyphenated names, my foster mums middle name is hyphenated. Her parents couldn't decide what to call her so they called her every possibility. Her name is Brenda Marie-Julia-Anne-Susan Smith, poor bugger.
She only ever uses her first name now.
I got stuck with Deslauriers as a last name. It makes me sound cool and exotic; unfortunately, a very sissy-sounding cool and exotic.
Meh, I don't care.
Bull:bou::bou::bou::bou:, they have to be Targaryens. Targs are far more inbred then Lannisters.Quote:
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Originally Posted by NorthernChaosGodI don't believe you're from Winterfell.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bunny
You all three have to be Lannisters. Only inbreeding can explain you pizza faced, mutant freak jobs.Quote:
Originally Posted by Guardian XIIIstfu nerds.Quote:
Originally Posted by NorthernChaosGodI don't believe you're from Winterfell.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bunny
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I agree with both of these poasts.Quote:
Originally Posted by Raistlin
If people want to have sex and don't want kids, it's their right. Plenty of types of protection and birth control exist these days, some of which even an idiot could use properly, and in cases where one fails there's the morning after pill. And no matter how one feels about abortion, making it illegal always results in a black market, and never actually stops abortion (case in point: El Salvador, which has criminalised it so thoroughly that people actually examine women who are suspected of having had abortions; it has not actually stopped the process from occurring, and just results in women dying from poorly executed abortions and being locked up in jails). What actually stops abortion is responsible, comprehensive sex education. Abortion went down more under Clinton, who promoted comprehensive sex education, than it did under Bush 43, who promoted just about every policy the religious right wanted him to short of actually banning abortion. As long as people aren't just smurfing casually without condoms, it's not really anything anyone should be concerned with.Quote:
I think i have a bigger issue with people deciding to have unprotected sex out of wedlock while still admitting to your face that they don't want and can't handle kids. I think it comes with the territory, that if you're boning you should accept the biological fact that it's there to make babies.
As long as you responsibly bone with the acceptance that you could produce, and therefore need to properly care for a kid, kudos to you.
Probably doesn't help I'm in the army though. I've seen more one year marriages than one night stands in the last 5 years.
If it's any consolation, my girlfriend thinks your last name is awesome.
My parents will be celebrating their 50th wedding anniversary this year.Quote:
Originally Posted by Peegee
My husband and I will be celebrating our 17th...that is if I don't killl him before that...
Jen might be on the market soon :excited:
Dibs.
ARE YOU smurfING KIDDING ME
Did I just get outdibsed? NOOOOO
You of all people should know that you can't beat Raistlin at things like this.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jiro
Come on guys, she'd be killing her previous mate. Is that really something you want to be with?
Well different strokes for different folks. Don't hate.
Can I have all your stuff when you die then?
Well I'm not smurfing crazy so I won't be dying. You can have jiro or raistlins stuff when they get killed though.
Is this praying mantis style courtship?
Whomever wants to get with the black widow.
Previous posts kept in mind, I fully endorse Raistlin's candidacy for hooking up with the husband-killer.
Back on topic, I agree with Jessweeee. Commitment to the child is more important than finances or marriage. Both of the latter can help, particularly finances when it comes to having the basic requirements. But more important than anything is that they both understand and want what is best for the child.
You can want until you go blue in the face, but if you can't financially support a child you probably shouldn't be having one.
I agree for the most part, but technically you should still be able to get support from the government to at least give them the basic neccessities. However, the government can't force you to love your kid, and I'd rather be brought up by poor parents living on government financial support than wealthy parents who hit me and hate me.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bunny
I'd rather have middle income parents with a so-so amount of love. :p
Is raised by Hyenas an option?
:O_O: Oh my Lord, guys! If I were really in the mind to off my husband, don't you think I would have done it by now?!?! Afterall, if I'd killed him the first time I thought of it, I'd be out by now!!!
They just want you.
Well, I actually did feel the love! :love:
I am in total agreement with Aaron concerning birth control and abortion for all the same reasons. Once my daughter hit puberty I took her aside and told her all about sex and birth control, and we have an open relationship where she knows she can tell me anything, and I don't freak out and lock her in a high tower. So far so good! Anyway, I expect to be the first to know if she is seriously considering sex as a teenager because she knows I want her to get an exam with GYN and get on the pill or something equivalent. I am in no hurry for her to provide me with grandchildren.
Also, on topic, my youngest step-son is technically a bastard because his mother and my husband were never married. I throw the word technically in there because I have raised him since he was almost 3 so I consider myself his "real" mother. However, I will say, he never successfully dealt with his biological mother's abandonment of him. Of all my step children, he has the most baggage and most difficulty with making good life choices. So, even though he has had two parents almost his whole life, who have loved and cared for him, he still suffered from the rejection. :|