Grand Theft Auto V Announced

#GTAV

As the site says, trailer incoming on November 2nd.

All I have to ask is, why? Why not make a trilogy based on GTA IV for the current generation like they did last gen? In this day and age, are big pubs afraid to ship anything without a sequential number on it? Do you think they took to heart some of the fan reactions to GTA IV and are just going over it? It just kinda seems to me like Rockstar North are another one of those developers who should have been doing a lot more than they have on this iteration of console, and this generation will be a lot worse off for it in history.

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I wish they'd do one in an Edinburgh-like setting. I stand outside Rockstar North every day on the way to work, and look around the city and think "This place is freaking perfect for a GTA game. Why not?"

As for "Why do a sequel, they could do a trilogy" - well, SE do a group of games and they are slated for it, now you're slating GTA for doing the opposite? If it's a GTA game, it deserves to have "Grand Theft Auto" in the title. If it's in a new location then they have every right to name it GTA V.

I googled this a week ago. I am pretty excited.

Unless it's set in Manchester I won't be buying it. GTA IV looked amazing but I've become rather bored with the formula. The series peaked at San Andreas in my opinion. I used to spend hours in the pub playing pool with the locals.

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As for "Why do a sequel, they could do a trilogy" - well, SE do a group of games and they are slated for it, now you're slating GTA for doing the opposite? If it's a GTA game, it deserves to have "Grand Theft Auto" in the title. If it's in a new location then they have every right to name it GTA V.

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I doubt I really need to explain it to you, BoB. In the case of numbering, I feel a GTA has to live up to that title, use a new engine, or be a leap instead of an iteration of the previous games. This is what they did last generation - GTA III, Vice City, and San Andreas. The GTA III trilogy. Each built up upon the previous one, but the real leap didn't come until GTA IV.

I mean with FF and GTA, what they're numbered and how the franchise expands, we're kinda comparing apples to oranges here and I feel that should be obvious.

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Each built up upon the previous one, but the real leap didn't come until GTA IV.

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The only leap GTAIV took though was a technological one. In terms of gameplay it was a massive leap backwards from the previous few games.

I'm interested in V only in so far as I want to see if they do an about face on some of the decisions they made in IV. Chief among them being the god awful mini games that you had to do in order to maintain relationships and reap the benefits that came with them. Some more interesting characters wouldn't hurt either.

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The only leap GTAIV took though was a technological one. In terms of gameplay it was a massive leap backwards from the previous few games.

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Yeah, this covers my thoughts pretty well. It was the most boring of the series to date, for me.

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In this day and age, are big pubs afraid to ship anything without a sequential number on it? Do you think they took to heart some of the fan reactions to GTA IV and are just going over it? It just kinda seems to me like Rockstar North are another one of those developers who should have been doing a lot more than they have on this iteration of console, and this generation will be a lot worse off for it in history.

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I like how you're getting all this from the words GRAND, THEFT, and AUTO in size 96 font on an otherwise blank page on their website. I eagerly await your full review of the game on November 4th.

I won't be getting it, needless to say. The series ended after GTA2 for me.

But I have no quibbles with it being GTA V. They've moved on from IV, it's been a while since its release. And also, they had the Ballad of Gay Tony etc for GTA IV, so it's already had it's expansions.

And I find, on this rare occasion, that Manus has hit the nail on the head.

GTA IV vanilla game was okay. There was some sharp writing, the ragdoll physics engine was incredible, and the multiplayer was a blast. However many of the missions were repetetive and entirely too scripted, and many of the characters around the middle of the game were bland compared to the brilliance of the likes of Little Jacob and Brucie. The Lost and the Damned and Ballad of Gay Tony improved GTA IV immensely. However, Saints Row 2 surpassed it, and if The Third is half as good as it looks, I think it's safe to say Saints Row has surpassed it as the premier open world crime franchise. I am more excited for The Third than I am for V, which speaks volumes seeing as I was the biggest lover of GTA this forum has ever seen! As bubbaforever said, the series peaked with San Andreas. I would rather see Rockstar (I appreciate it's a different in-house development studio) make another Bully or Red Dead than another GTA though.

Ramblings aside, I am still genuinely looking forward to learning more about it and I will definitely get it regardless.

Also seriously next person to post "GTA SHOULD BE SET IN MY CITY" gets banned. :colbert:

Also also, SERIOUSLY, announce Bully 2 you :bou::bou::bou::bou:s :doublecolbert:

Like Paul I'm way more excited for SRTT than GTAV. But we'll have to see where V is set and what route they're taking with it. I'm sure it'll be an amazing smurfing game, and I've no problem with it being story and character-oriented, but they do need to learn when driving across town YET AGAIN is a bit much.

I still want an open-world crime game set in the middle future. The nearest is Red Faction: Guerrilla but... I want to play a regular GTA/SR game except in a huge dystopian metropolis.

^ I think a lot of people feel the same way as you guys. I've never gotten into Saints Row but I know they've kinda blown R* out of the water when it comes to the crazy rampaging which a lot of people play it for.

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The only leap GTAIV took though was a technological one. In terms of gameplay it was a massive leap backwards from the previous few games.

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Admittedly, that's most of what I was talking about, how VC and SA iterated upon the GTA III engine. But you also have to admit that they brought in a cover system which changed the gameplay a bit; the physics, especially driving, were a lot more in-depth; if I'm not mistaken its the first game in the series to try to faithfully recreate real world landmarks; It had branching plot lines; and it entered the age of always-online consoles by introducing competitive multiplayer. We can debate how those modes stack up to the heavyweights of the genre, but I know I had a lot of fun playing some of them. I don't think you can deny how much it brought to the series. Doubting its success is an understandable position, though.

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I like how you're getting all this from the words GRAND, THEFT, and AUTO in size 96 font on an otherwise blank page on their website. I eagerly await your full review of the game on November 4th.

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It just seems strange considering their model last generation. 3 years from GTA III we had two full games which were considerably larger in scope than the original, in San Andreas' case, vastly larger. 3 years after GTA IV, we've had two expansions.

Ah the GTA series... lacking atmosphere since 2002. Unless this game goes back to it's mob roots and leaves it's current one-man-army-but-hold-my-hand-gameplay behind, I'm not interested.

I want a Bully 2 too. As far as this game goes I'm wondering if it's going to be set in Liberty City again. I, III, and IV were all in Liberty City.

I agree, Bully is probably my favourite Rockstar game - the atmosphere, music and storyline/characters were spot on. I enjoyed Red Dead Redemption and the ending was excellent, but I would buy a Bully 2 over another Red Dead any day. As for the GTA series, I enjoy it but not to the extent of those two games.

San Andreas was the last one I played. I didn't like the look of GTA IV. I've always been a fan of Rockstar though. I played the crap out of Red Dead Redemption, and LA Noire had it's moments as well (even though I think Team Bondi did a majority of the work).

I'm looking forward to the trailer for this.

Rockstar are in a league of their own when it comes to story and characters and I expect GTAV to live up to that. Having said that, I think its about time Rockstar had the balls to set a GTA in a location that is outside the USA. They have squeezed every bit of humour they can out of satirizing American culture. Imagine the oppotunities they would have if they set the next game in the UK. Or Australia. Heck, even Jamaica would be great. Unfortunately Rockstar won't do that in case it jeopardizes sales in America. Shame.

Oh, and what about Agent? Come on!

^ The rumor is that when Rockstar decided not to make GTA IV a timed PS3 release, there was something in a contract somewhere that they had to do it with another title for Sony. They were going to do that with L.A. Noire once they bought the rights from Sony, but that didn't happen either. So they decided to make their own. It might just be vapourware, so they could say "we're fulfilling our contractual obligations."

I'd really like for another one outside the US, too. I mean the reason they keep satirizing America is because there's already so much source material to borrow from, with Goodfellas, Scarface, Boyz 'n the Hood, etc.

I remember when this generation was young and the rumors were floating around about the next Grand Theft Auto, it was thought because these consoles were so powerful, the next GTA would take place on the ENTIRE CONTINENT OF EUROPE!!! Not with every town and city done out, of course, but all kinds of crazy stuff like driving on the autobahn, or making deals at parisian restaurants at night, or starting world wars which cost millions of lives.

But somebody found if you turn the V upside down in the logo, it looks like an "Ace of Spades" type symbol, so with that and the money the new favored guess is Las Venturas.

I think any GTA that covers more than a few cities (a la San Andreas) would not really be GTA anymore. It'd be something else. And would probably not have nearly as much immersion involved - ie, more driving to get to places where you can do things. Either that or, if they increased content proportionally, the development cycle would be massively long.

GTA stopped being GTA a long time ago. Then it stopped being what it became a long time ago too. I don't know what it is now.

Incidentally, "driving to where you get to do things"? Were you really that unimaginative that you didn't have a smurfing blast with the countryside and ignored it completely? For shame. It wouldn't surprise me to learn I spent more time out of cities than in them on SA. It was a nice change of pace but still smurfing awesome.

That's true.

I spent the majority of my time in SA either doing gang wars (I was the Fat Chocobos, of course) and playing around on a dirt bike at the mines/mountain/whatever it was at the south-west portion of the map. I barely got into the northern cities, really.

But SA was special.

The first GTA was in the three big cities that became the trilogy during the PS2. So If GTA I wasn't GTA then I'm confused.

GTA IV I actually played through the plot. GTA III, Vice City, and San Andreas, I just dicked around with the cheats and tried to find more and more interesting ways to blow the smurf out of everything. I miss parachutes. Those were fun to play with. So for GTA V, I just want a better plot, not just one that's merely interesting enough for me to play, and no smurfing escort missions, or missions of any kind that require me to not crash into things when I am driving. Really that last point is all I want out of GTA.

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GTA stopped being GTA a long time ago. Then it stopped being what it became a long time ago too. I don't know what it is now.

Incidentally, "driving to where you get to do things"? Were you really that unimaginative that you didn't have a smurfing blast with the countryside and ignored it completely? For shame. It wouldn't surprise me to learn I spent more time out of cities than in them on SA. It was a nice change of pace but still smurfing awesome.

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I loved piling as many of my homies as I could into a bus and taking them on field trips. Then blowing up said bus with all my homies inside at the end.

Why would they make a trilogy when they already gave us The Lost and the Damned and The Ballad of Gay Tony? Rockstar have figured out how to get more money from us for a single game without complaints. I think a completely new instalment gives them way more opportunities to do more DLC and make more monies.

So the trailer was uninspiring. So it's back in San Andreas anyway..

Grove Street

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Least it was 'til I smurfed everytang up

Yes. :D

I really didn't like IV at all.

It didn't feel like the previous games at all, it was too movie-like. Some people like their games like that, I don't though. I want my game to be game-like if that makes sense.

I think the golden age for me was Vice City and III. I could spend forever playing those.

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I think the golden age for me was Vice City and III. I could spend forever playing those.

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Word.

Saw the new trailer. Thirst thoughts: back to San Andreas where the series lost it's vibe. As I've said before, as long as they don't go back to the mob vibe of the earlier games and drop the whole one-man-army stuff I'm not interested.

Edit: also quite disappointed in Rockstar for not trying anywhere new. They play it safe, hoping to cling on to a certain target group by itching a nostalgia nerve. Why not Tokyo? Beijing? Hong Kong? Dubai? The more I think about what they're trying to pull off here, the lower my hopes get.

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Edit: also quite disappointed in Rockstar for not trying anywhere new. They play it safe, hoping to cling on to a certain target group by itching a nostalgia nerve. Why not Tokyo? Beijing? Hong Kong? Dubai? The more I think about what they're trying to pull off here, the lower my hopes get.

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Americans won't buy it.

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Edit: also quite disappointed in Rockstar for not trying anywhere new. They play it safe, hoping to cling on to a certain target group by itching a nostalgia nerve. Why not Tokyo? Beijing? Hong Kong? Dubai? The more I think about what they're trying to pull off here, the lower my hopes get.

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Americans won't buy it.

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Americans buy loads of games set in those areas.

A Grand Theft Auto in Tokyo would be awesome. I think it'd do really well personally, and definitively be a breath of fresh air.

A lot of Americans can't find Britain on a map - in terms of marketing they'll have a much higher chance of generating sales with a game set in the country of the largest customer base. Also if they were to properly satirise a country other than the US then the humour would not spread as well, whereas generally American culture is understood well enough in other parts of the world that buy into their media. For GTA, America is by far the best option if they actually want to make a titload of money.

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A lot of Americans can't find Britain on a map - in terms of marketing they'll have a much higher chance of generating sales with a game set in the country of the largest customer base. Also if they were to properly satirise a country other than the US then the humour would not spread as well, whereas generally American culture is understood well enough in other parts of the world that buy into their media. For GTA, America is by far the best option if they actually want to make a titload of money.

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Yes but that's true of any nationality. Most people from the UK don't know where things are in the US at all. Most of Europe doesn't. One of my friends thought I lived right above Texas. :jess:

But it is true that American culture is the most well known, and they will make the most money with it. But the most money doesn't equal the best game. They could at least pick something new out of the US.

At very least give me Grand Theft Auto: New Orleans. I'd love to go outta the city into the swamps.

So the trailer shows there's cropdusters and a mountain. That's a copy sold to me because I am esily pleased.

I hope this is to IV as SA was to III. I hope they try to out-Saints Saints.

I seriously hope we're not getting another main character who is all "I just want a quiet life I hate all this violence" as he runs over nineteen people. One of the reasons Saints works so well is that you are in-story at least as psychopathic as you are in gameplay.

Still though, those graphics holy trout.

Looks like it's back in San Andreas. I guess those fools who've spent the last year modding GTA4 to the San Andreas map feel like they've wasted their time.

I hope there's less "Niiiico, let's go bowling!!!" trout this time around, as that's what really made me stop playing GTA IV. I completed the stories in all the PS2 entries of the series, but not in IV. I couldn't handle it.

Also I would like a better soundtrack this time.

GTA is heavily influenced by Hollywood films :p

Anyway, I hope being set in San Andreas means I can play with parachutes again. I like parachutes.

I just watched the new SRTT trailer and I honestly no longer give one single tiny little dingleberry about GTA.

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GTA is heavily influenced by Hollywood films :p

Anyway, I hope being set in San Andreas means I can play with parachutes again. I like parachutes.

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What influenced SA?

Gosh that looks so cool. xD

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GTA is heavily influenced by Hollywood films :p

Anyway, I hope being set in San Andreas means I can play with parachutes again. I like parachutes.

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Most prominently Boyz in the Hood and Menace II Society :p

The city and characters feel less inspired this time around. Just got that "been there done that" feel from the trailer. Its weird cause I know the game will be great (its Rockstar after all) but I really don't care anymore. The GTA formula is a bit stale for me now.

I remember the buzz I got from seeing the first Vice City trailer way back when. Those were the days.

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GTA is heavily influenced by Hollywood films :p

Anyway, I hope being set in San Andreas means I can play with parachutes again. I like parachutes.

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Most prominently Boyz in the Hood and Menace II Society :p

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What does SA really have to do with those other than it being in the hood on the west coast? The plots don't seem similar at all.

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GTA is heavily influenced by Hollywood films :p

Anyway, I hope being set in San Andreas means I can play with parachutes again. I like parachutes.

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Most prominently Boyz in the Hood and Menace II Society :p

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What does SA really have to do with those other than it being in the hood on the west coast? The plots don't seem similar at all.

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Now when I say influenced, I don't mean influenced like Romeo and Juliet "influenced" New Moon.

Trailer was a tad underwhelming. Looks exactly like GTA IV, even less of a reason for this to be a fully numbered sequel. Gameplay should be nice though if they bring back all of the stuff there was to do in SA, especially turf wars ^_^

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Why would they make a trilogy when they already gave us The Lost and the Damned and The Ballad of Gay Tony? Rockstar have figured out how to get more money from us for a single game without complaints. I think a completely new instalment gives them way more opportunities to do more DLC and make more monies.

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Only on the internet will consumers defend the companies who rip them off.

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What does SA really have to do with those other than it being in the hood on the west coast? The plots don't seem similar at all.

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They have similar settings, themes, character archetypes, and plot devices.

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Still though, those graphics holy tit.

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Oh, right, you're an Xbox gamer :P

J/K I'M NOT TROLLING

Sorry I guess I'm just used to my games having to worry about things other than graphics, because they are actually games and not movies. :shobon:

Hey bolivar if you google search "xbox 360 v ps3 gta iv" you will learn a startling truth.

have you done it yet? Ok, firstly I have to say "PLEASE DON'T KILL YOURSELF!" because I know you are considering it right now. You have plenty to live for. What about the next Talky McTalking game? Or that one shooter that's universally acclaimed as being better than Halo and Gears and Serious Sam? KillerZone 3? I think? It's probably better than that one Jurassic Park game from 1994 too. You had to run around in some underground tunnels and raptors jumped out. It was dark as tit. I always preferred the third person levels myself, although I could never convince Lex to come with me. Would you know how to do that, Bolivar?

To conclude: heh heh you like a babby console for babbys :smug: babby.

Funny how one brief comment, with a joke disclaimer, provokes discussion about my suicide. I guess it's true what they say:

"Only on Xbox 360"

(^ that's a joke, too)

Thread ruined

I hope you guys are happy

Bolivar has that effect. :kakapo:

I got GTAIV on Steam (PC) with my beasty machine, though I haven't loaded it up yet. I only got it because it was dirt cheap - as in I probably could have paid with dirt and they would have made more profit.

The only GTA I've played is the first one when it came out. Which was pretty fun! I guess I really need to jump in to IV and check it out.

Here is a startling fact: Games released on Xbox 360 MUST reach full 1080p graphically. Games on the PS3 must only achieve a mere 720p comparing graphics is not exactly a good idea for the PS3 gamer in that regard. Though I will admit certain titles on the PS3 are fully 1080p the vast majority of multi-format titles are not.

As for GTA V I might get it I might not, find myself gaming less these days.

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Here is a startling fact: Games released on Xbox 360 MUST reach full 1080p graphically.

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Are you really arguing about graphics based on resolution? Here's a nice startling fact for you, none of the games people hail as looking so damn good on either the PS3 or 360 run at a native resolution higher than 720p. Both essentially use hardware upscaling to reach 1080p. The only difference as I understand it is that Sony left the hardware upscaling as an option for developers to use or not at their discretion.

But really, resolution is such a small part of the graphics equation, and like all the other parts, dependant on proper optimization that arguing about which is superior based solely on that is silly, especially based on multiplatform titles.

If we're going to judge each system on their ability to output at a native resolution of 1080p then they both suck more than GTA4 did (just to get it back on topic. :D).

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Here is a startling fact: Games released on Xbox 360 MUST reach full 1080p graphically.

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Are you really arguing about graphics based on resolution? Here's a nice startling fact for you, none of the games people hail as looking so damn good on either the PS3 or 360 run at a native resolution higher than 720p. Both essentially use hardware upscaling to reach 1080p. The only difference as I understand it is that Sony left the hardware upscaling as an option for developers to use or not at their discretion.

But really, resolution is such a small part of the graphics equation, and like all the other parts, dependant on proper optimization that arguing about which is superior based solely on that is silly, especially based on multiplatform titles.

If we're going to judge each system on their ability to output at a native resolution of 1080p then they both suck more than GTA4 did (just to get it back on topic. :D).

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and also, I was joking.

But honestly I am a bit surprised at MILF's comments on the graphics, considering I don't think the trailer really looked all that great. We had 3 big PC developers debut their brand new engines on consoles this year (Crytek's Cry Engine 3 with Crysis 2, id's id tech 5 with Rage, and DICE's Frostbite 2 with Battlefield 3), not to mention the Witcher 2 on PC, Gears of War 3 on Xbox 360 and Killzone 3 on PlayStation 3. There's a lot of incredible looking games coming out in this day and age, defying all logic with how they're able to continuously push the boundaries of now 5 and 6 year old consoles.

But I don't think an update of GTA IV's engine is going to be one of them.

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That too. I just like telling Iceglow when he's being silly. Not sure why everyone else is insisting on carrying on a non-argument though.

Blates not paying attention then Bovs because GTA IV still looks amazing today and that trailer was pretty impressive.

Typical Sony fan takes everything way too seriously of course :greenie:

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I found this to be the most informative thing in the whole thread.


And I think those games look ages more interesting than anything coming out nowdays. :eek:

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and also, I was joking.

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That too. I just like telling Iceglow when he's being silly. Not sure why everyone else is insisting on carrying on a non-argument though.

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Me, neither.

So R* issued an official announcement:

Grand Theft Auto V: The Official Announcement | Warp Zoned

Other than the usual "largest and most ambitious" boilerplate, it's confirmed to be in the present day, only Los Santos and surrounding countryside is confirmed, and multiplayer will indeed be returning :bounce:

No word on platforms and people are curious if this ommission means more than it seems. Like, are they saving up for a big Wii U announcement and this'll be the first GTA on a Nintendo home console, or even will this make it to next Microsoft/Sony consoles? Or are they going to pull something really crazy and put this on iOS? I think that'd be lame, but they are making a push with GTA III anniversary on it.

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and also, I was joking.

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That too. I just like telling Iceglow when he's being silly. Not sure why everyone else is insisting on carrying on a non-argument though.

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No. No take-backs. You crossed a god damn line you son of a bitch. I've had enough of you owning a different console to me. We're going to have a fist-fight, only I get to wield a baseball bat. Partly because I am a sissy weakling, but also because it is a metaphor for the advantage the 360 has over the PS3. :smug:

ALSO BOLIVAR ANSWER MY QUESTION ABOUT JURASSIC PARK. NOW!!! :argh:

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Why would they make a trilogy when they already gave us The Lost and the Damned and The Ballad of Gay Tony? Rockstar have figured out how to get more money from us for a single game without complaints. I think a completely new instalment gives them way more opportunities to do more DLC and make more monies.

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Only on the internet will consumers defend the companies who rip them off.

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I wasn't defending them, I was pointing out that they already have a more successful scheme that makes people less angry. Besides, they didn't get any of my money :greenie:

Get your troutty ass trolling bitchfest out of our GTA V thread. Even if you're just trolling a troll and lolling a lol, both the troll and the lol are (particularly in the case of this thread) a poor show and you are all awful people for going down that road.

Back to GTA V discussion, none of your console/PC/whatever bulltrout, thanks.

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ALSO BOLIVAR ANSWER MY QUESTION ABOUT JURASSIC PARK. NOW!!! :argh:

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I've never played that game and I don't care to find out, as I now exclusively play games with 20-minute cutscenes and ludicrously-sized mandatory hard drive installs.

But um, yeah. GTA V. Kinda on the fence still, we need a lot more info. I'm pretty sure when the next round of game mags hit, we'll have a whole lot more info to mull over.

I'll probably buy GTA V but I'm hearing that Saint's Row is better, though I have yet to play it. Buying Rockstar's latest offerings is kind of a duty at this point, but I'm still holding out for Bully 2.

Oh and I'm definitely getting Jurassic Park, I get every Telltale game.