i had more fun with the tank controls and using Jill because she had two extra item slots. Resident Evil 2 was even better! What the hell are they doing now, really?
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i had more fun with the tank controls and using Jill because she had two extra item slots. Resident Evil 2 was even better! What the hell are they doing now, really?
I have seen most of RE5 get played by multiple people, but I have never played it myself because they designed the game around a two player scheme. I kind of thought this one looked cool, but it is way over the top even for a RE game. I didn't have a problem with what they revamped along with the more action based angle with RE4. I still felt it carried a RE vibe to it, but just with a different pace and flavor.
I don't know what else to say, man. I'm still depressed Capcom killed Mega Man.
I guess I'll just have to see how bad it really is for myself when Gamefly sends it to me, because I'm quite leery about buying it.
Every other core series Resident Evil game I've ran out and purchased day one. I was never disappointed. That includes RE5.
But the reception on RE6 is absolutely baffling me. Many people, both fans and critics, say it's absolutely terrible as a game and an entry in the RE series. Other people tell me it's awesome, better than RE4, and that if I liked 4 and 5 I won't be disappointed.
I've never seen a game where the reception ranged so drastically from great to terrible, and was polarized to such a degree.
I started a new playthrough of RE4 tonight for the first time in five or so years to prepare myself. RE4 remains, in my mind, the holy grail of the RE franchise, and the absolute, hands down, best game Capcom has ever developed, so I'll use it as a comparison to RE6.
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Originally Posted by DMKA
I've heard not a smurfing peep. I didn't even know it was out. Way to just undersell the product.
Yea haven't played since 2
RE4's well worth the fifteen bucks or so on XBLA/PSN. I wasn't too big on Nemesis and never played Code Veronica.
Played the RE6 demo and my god was it bad. Which is funny because they finally wised up and added a crosshair and have the laser sight show up on pretty much everything, as well as let you move while aiming which were the two things I hated most about RE4 and which weren't changed in RE5. But despite adding those they managed to smurf up in just about every other way I could imagine. I'd be happy to go into more detail if anyone's interested, but there's a demo so I doubt that's necessary.
On the plus side, playing the demo made me yearn for some of the older titles. Might be time to go back and beat the REmake again, or perhaps CV.
I thought the same thing. I felt like there was something I was missing considering I haven't played RE5 and the RE series really isn't even the same genre of game that enjoyed from 1-3. I didn't even bother finishing it, but I thought it was just me.Quote:
Originally Posted by Vivi22
But from everything I've been reading about the full game, it's just amateur hour from beginning to end. I'd rent it and play it with a friend for a fun 'bad game night', but I already played Castlevania Lord of Shadow back in February.
Oh well, back to Dishonored.
The'6' in the logo looks like a man giving a giraffe a blow job. The game can't be that bad.
Me and Pauw have been rinsing this game lately and both of us have thoroughly enjoyed it. In fact, I'd go as far as saying it's the most fun game I've played so far this year. Pretty different perspectives on the series as well, as Psy's been a fan since the first game and likes most of the series and has enjoyed this, and I only started really playing from Resi 5. But yeah I've had a blast with the game, although that being said I feel in no way inclined to ever touch it as a single player game. As a co-op romp with a friend it's great but really couldn't be arsed to do it solo I don't think. So maybe that significantly enhances the experience? IDK.
It wouldn't have all the bile and shrieking from the internet if it was released as a new intellectual property as opposed to making it part of the main Resi series. It's picking up a lot of hatred that it simply does not deserve. Much of the criticism stems from this:Although most people aren't saying it quite as elegantly as FA did. I mean, I guess it's a bad survival horror game, but it's like saying Final Fantasy is a bad baseball simulator. The series has moved on.Quote:
Originally Posted by Flying Arrow
I will say it's not perfect either. There are some bizarre design choices such as RANDOM TRUCK OUT OF NOWHERE KILLING YOU, ammo and healing item scarcity and maybe one too many QTEs, but a bad game? Not in the slightest.
Anyone who criticizes it on the grounds that it's not a survival horror game is silly because we're on the third main series entry now which isn't a survival horror game so there's really no excuse for people not figuring out that it wasn't going to be survival horror.Quote:
Originally Posted by PsychoticIt's picking up a lot of hatred that it simply does not deserve. Much of the criticism stems from this:Although most people aren't saying it quite as elegantly as FA did. I mean, I guess it's a bad survival horror game, but it's like saying Final Fantasy is a bad baseball simulator. The series has moved on.Quote:
Originally Posted by Flying Arrow
But this I don't agree with. I've played my fair share of cover based third person shooters in the last several years and this is one of the worst on many levels based on what the demo had to show me.Quote:
but a bad game? Not in the slightest.
Actually, calling it a cover based third person shooter might not be totally fair because in the demo, not only did I play through two of the scenarios not realizing you could take cover (seriously, the button combination for entering cover is just stupid. I didn't notice it in the 2 seconds it gave me to memorize the controls before the game started and it's no wonder I never stumbled on it on my own), but cover is also seemingly superfluous. I never used it and never had a problem. I'd wonder if that changes later on but I really don't care enough to find out to be honest.
For what it's worth, I went through the entire game without using the cover system. It's not like Gears or GTA IV where if you leave cover, you die. The accuracy for guns at long range is poor, so for me it was pointless anyway. Real men run up to zombies and suplex them. :cool:
I'd say it is entirely more melee-orientated than cover-based, and I'd struggle to call it a cover-based shooter as much as I would to call it a survival horror game.
Mine eyes. They're still using the exact same animation loops as they did in RE4.
Also Agent Hunt is hilarious. I just wish you could join it with friends.
My friends are enjoying playing it, and I am looking forward to playing it when I can afford to pick it up. :D Seems like people have quite a bit of fun in the co-op mode, which is the only way I'd play it anyway. I didn't touch RE5 as a single player game, and probably never will.
I played through more than half of my time on RE5 with the unlimited rocket launcher, so the fact that people are crying over how it's strayed even further from survival horror... eh. Whatever. xD I will play RE1-3 if I want that experience.
Where the story wasn't great, RE5 was fun as hell and I'll pick up RE6 after a price drop.
I'm looking at the game. It doesn't interest me at all. The story's just silly now. It doesn't seem fully developed as a third person shooter, but to call it a survival horror seems equally stretched. I've only played RE2, 4 and CV, but from playing 4 and looking at 6, the changes don't seem like ones for the better (except for moving and shooting, but it doesn't look like Capcom's done anything for the enemy AI to accommodate those changes. Also, exploration seems like less of a factor, which is what I liked about RE; it might not have been open world, but you became familiar with the environments. There's just nothing here that made me like Resident Evil in the first place.
To anyone who's played the game, do I at least have to worry about conserving supplies? That might determine whether I buy the game at a later date.
People need to stop comparing the demo to the actual game. A lot of times, the demo doesn't hold a candle compared to the actual gameplay. I'm playing RE6 right now in local coop mode, mostly because it's a lot more fun that way. So the series has strayed from the strictly horror roots into COD-type of action. You won't hear me complaining. RE6 has been fun so far. The coop play is fun (except for annoying times you need two people to open a door. LOL whut) although I'm still waiting for the story to pick up its pace.
I have it on good authority that Fujiko loves this game.
Same boat as Psy and DK. Definitely many fun times to be had when playing multiplayer on this one.
I also never use cover. literally never. can't figure out how to use it effectively.
Sorry, but if I don't like things as fundamental as the way a game controls in a demo, it's a pretty safe bet I will despise them just as much in the game.Quote:
Originally Posted by yukina
And so far it seems that everyone's singing the same tune: that it's fun if you play co-op. Except I don't want to play co-op in most single player games. I don't want to be bound by someone else's schedule to have fun with, what is essentially, a single player game. And I doubt doing so would make me forget how terrible it was even controlling the game the way they want me to.
Well playing the game in the demo is the actual gameplay, so.Quote:
Originally Posted by yukina
The thing is, if it were an RPG or something that grows in depth as the game goes on, I can get on board with this argument.
But for a shooter to be as bland and stiff in a demo - I can only assume the rest of the game will follow suit because the only thing there is to do in a shooter is walk through levels and shoot stuff.
The thing with Co-op is that your friend could really be a bad player, and it then degenerates in an escort mission of RE4; you constantly helping out your friend. If I were to play a single player game like this, I'd do it by myself, so I don't hit my friend in a burning rage for getting killed again.Quote:
Originally Posted by Vivi22Sorry, but if I don't like things as fundamental as the way a game controls in a demo, it's a pretty safe bet I will despise them just as much in the game.Quote:
Originally Posted by yukina
And so far it seems that everyone's singing the same tune: that it's fun if you play co-op. Except I don't want to play co-op in most single player games. I don't want to be bound by someone else's schedule to have fun with, what is essentially, a single player game. And I doubt doing so would make me forget how terrible it was even controlling the game the way they want me to.
Yeah, I see the point. I don't touch coop games with my older sister because she kinda sucks at gaming compared to my brother and his bestfriend. I'm enjoying it so far though esp. since I just came from almost 5 years of fantasy RPGs only then 1 and a half year of total gaming abstinence. But hey, once I get my groove back on and get my hands on some new shooter titles, I might actually agree with you. For now, I'm just enjoying the experience. :)Quote:
Originally Posted by FormalhautThe thing with Co-op is that your friend could really be a bad player, and it then degenerates in an escort mission of RE4; you constantly helping out your friend. If I were to play a single player game like this, I'd do it by myself, so I don't hit my friend in a burning rage for getting killed again.Quote:
Originally Posted by Vivi22Sorry, but if I don't like things as fundamental as the way a game controls in a demo, it's a pretty safe bet I will despise them just as much in the game.Quote:
Originally Posted by yukina
And so far it seems that everyone's singing the same tune: that it's fun if you play co-op. Except I don't want to play co-op in most single player games. I don't want to be bound by someone else's schedule to have fun with, what is essentially, a single player game. And I doubt doing so would make me forget how terrible it was even controlling the game the way they want me to.
I'm totally not against Co - Op, under the good circumstances it can be amazing. If you're both terrible at the game, then you can both stumble through together, laughing all the while. The danger lies when the player skill is out of sync, in other words, your great and he/she is just plain poor.
When I'm playing with friends, which is hardly ever, but when I do I prefer competitive play, because it's friendly rivalry, not begrudgingly assisting your friend. The RE series unfortunately doesn't lend itself well to this. It's for this reason that the Mario Kart games are the best selling racing games, and my personal favourite, it's just wacky fun with friends.
Thank you for posting this.... I am so disappointed with Resident Evil 6... it's like they based it off the troutty movies.....Quote:
Originally Posted by Jowy
Yeah, if you're basing your opinions off the demo, that isn't the best thing to do. The full game is actually quite a bit better. Although I have played games where the demo was better than the full game (looking at you, The Dishwasher!).
I may have said this once before, but Capcom painted themselves into a corner back in the mid-'90s. All the innovations RE1 had trickled down to RE2, RE3, and even Code: Veronica and Zero. But it got to the point where fans were tired of the tank controls, and the fixed camera angles. Basically two of the big things that made RE what it was back then gameplay-wise, besides the limited ammo and puzzles.
That's why RE4 went through so many revisions. Capcom tried to figure out a way to please old fans and get new fans into the game. The game ended up being a departure from the original three games for sure, to the point where they had to actually make the enemies smarter and stronger. Thus, Los Ganados. They couldn't do all that with zombies. Zombies by nature are slow movement-wise and slow in the head. :jess: This also meant the game had to kind of become more of a shooter.
Remember the ghost version of RE4? That one was pushed aside because it was more like Silent Hill. Which would be fine if RE focused on psychological horror. It only focused on, admittedly, cheap scares and gore. But RE4 worked because of the creepy atmosphere and the suspense, mostly during the sections where you had to babysit Ashley.
I will never understand why Capcom basically literally made RE5 nothing but a third-person shooter. That's all I'll say about that. Maybe they figured it was a natural evolution from RE4. But it felt nothing like RE in any way. Even Chris seemed more like a regular ol' military dude. The atmosphere wasn't very unsettling at all, since most of the game took place in Africa during the daytime. Not much room for scares there. It felt more like a science-fiction game.
RE6 is kind of in the middle. It's pretty much a shooter like RE5 if you're playing as Chris, but Leon kinda takes it back to 4. I see Jake as basically playing through the game as a hidden character, if that makes sense. The funny thing about the game is that there's a melee button, which kind of takes the creep factor out of the game. If by some miraculous chance you run out of ammo, you can just kill things in two hits. Hell you can pretty much just melee anything. But for some reason it works and it's fun. I'm not gonna lie. But I'm not sure I can see it as an RE game completely. It's got the crazy characters and the hordes of mindless enemies, but it feels like a huge departure. Not quite the departure that 5 was, though. Seriously, even thinking of it as just a regular shooter, RE5 was pretty lame.
Capcom went on record saying that survival horror games are no longer profitable...that's why all the titles after RE3 are more action based. I hate it personally. They want that Call Of Duty/Gears Of War money. I'm done with RE unless they bring back the horror aspect...we have enough mindless shooters already.
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It's a lose-lose for Capcom either way. They keep this style they've got going now, and the fans bitch about them being more action-based. You keep the old style but tweak it to fit the demands of the 21st century, and you'll still have fans bitching and a drop off in sales. They cannot win in this scenario either way. The answer here is, let them do whatever they wanna do, basically. :cool:
I got this for Christmas. Started with Leon's campaign because Mr. Scott Kennedy is the greatest, and wasn't enjoying it much at all. I can't tell you how annoying it is that zombies can take multiple headshots to kill. :mad2: But then I read Jake's chapter was chronologically first so I started ashimSherry goddamn Birkin and holy trout it's the best Resi ever I can't believe the difference.
I wonder what Chris is like.
Chris is more like Jake's so you're in luck. I kind of prefer Leon's tbh. :shobon:
Also, PIERS NIVANS
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Originally Posted by Psychotic
Yup that's a pretty good summation of Resident Evil 6.
Penis Vans.
RE5 was awesome as long as you were playing with a friend rather than fighting with the npc.
Both RE4 and RE5 had that one difficult level around the beginning of the game but it wasn't as bad in 5. I'm actually okay with the style they went for.
If you're really wanting a scare I recommend playing Revelation for the 3DS. That game was pretty scary.
Sadly I started losing interest in the Resident Evil series when it came to games like Operation Raccoon City. They seemed pretty interesting but I just didn't think it would be worth a try. After a while I started reading reviews and hearing others talk about the game and they said it wasn't as good as they hoped.
6 seemed to be more based off of action than horror and I found out that the zombies were more intelligent and could use items themselves. It had a lot of interesting features... but it just wasn't enough to convince me to buy it.
I've finished Leon, Chris, and Jake's campaigns. I honestly don't see how it got some of the low scores it's received. Is it anything like classic RE? Nope. Is it even right to label it "survival horror"? Nope. Is it a bad game? Nope.
It's a very polished, very pretty, very fun game. It's also very Japanese. The story is silly, but no more silly than the previous games.
Oh, and it does have one thing is has that none of the other RE games had: competent voice acting. :p
This game is dead to me now. It cannot be RE without awful voice acting!Quote:
Originally Posted by DMKA
I got this for my birthday. As soon as Mr Shauna and I finish up B'lands 2, we shall be pressing on with this! Should be a bunch of laughs. :}