The Phantom Pain is actually MGS: Ground Zeros!?!?!

For those of you who saw the VGAs a new game called the Phantom Pain was unveiled, but rumours and speculation were swirling since the reveal. Kojima was on hand for the VGAs (they even congratulated him and Konami for the 25th anniversary of MG).

The studio head is named "Joakim Mogren". Switch the letters in Joakim around and you get Kojima.

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TRAILER: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nSfajBs2nyQ

Here's a thread you should look at:
The Phantom Pain, aka Metal Gear Solid V, Announced (360/PS3, "Moby Dick Studios") - NeoGAF

- Continued play on "phantom", where "Two Phantoms were born" stands as the tagline for Ground Zeroes' first concept material.
- Volgin lookalike wreathed in flames.
- Hallucinating petals straight from MGS3's climax.
- Floating figure with audible breaths muffled by mask, ala Psycho Mantis.
- Similar facial scars between in-game model and Snake concept art for Ground Zeroes.
- That smurfing mullet.
- Joakim Mogren, where Joakim is an anagram for Kojima.

It looks pretty smurfing nuts. Not at all like a Metal Gear Solid game. But then who knows.

I saw that last night, and I actually thought the dude looked like Snake from behind. Interesting.

Yes, Sephex. You always were one to pay great attention to men's rears.

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Yes, Sephex. You always were one you pay great attention to men's rears.

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It's actually the only way I can identify men. Drunk men in bars love it when I assess them in that manner.

Rantz on fire makes an appearance around the 2:25ish mark in the trailer. :greenie: Looks like he eats a helicopter.

Yeah, I have no idea why some people think it looks like a snake. It's clearly a Rantzien.

I spent most of last night on facebook winding my friend up about this not being MGS5. He failed to notice me pointing out all the things that say it is.

It definitely looks great whatever it turns out to be.

I don't know what's up with the amputation but it really seems like Big Boss, especially since he has a head bandage that covers up his right eye. There's something rising at the end that definitely seems Psycho Mantis-esque. I'm also thinking the other guy with his whole head wrapped up might be the burned man from the debut trailer. Or the guy who's actually on fire is.

I don't know what this is going to have to do with the story and I'm a little scared to find out.

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It looks pretty smurfing nuts. Not at all like a Metal Gear Solid game. But then who knows.

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I actually convinced a fiend that this is anew Contra game and that those two guys are Bill Rizer and Lance Bean.

I saw Joystiq's coverage of this today and I'm pretty interested. Ground Zeroes looked killer, and it'd be no surprise to see Kojima trolling everyone with this. Which is hilarious. I love the guy.

Still need to watch the actual trailer for this though. I spent more time reading all the crazy conspiracy theories surrounding it.

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I saw Joystiq's coverage of this today and I'm pretty interested. Ground Zeroes looked killer, and it'd be no surprise to see Kojima trolling everyone with this. Which is hilarious. I love the guy.

Still need to watch the actual trailer for this though. I spent more time reading all the crazy conspiracy theories surrounding it.

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The Phantom Pain Trailer! (Metal Gear Solid 5?) - YouTube

Wait a minute, David/Jack-looking guy that's a left arm amputee, WTF THAT IS LIQUID SNAKE!!!!

If I'm not mistaken, that's 'right arm' for Liquid. This is probably Big Boss.

That's... a good point.

You know I think you're right since ocelot had his right hand cut off at the beginning of MGS1....

I wonder then if this'll be about how big boss became a snatcher, which they confirmed in the database.

The real twist here?

Not MGS at all. Kojima is just trolling everyone. It's a new IP.

Looks pretty nuts, and I mean that in a good way.

Like previously stated, however, looks nothing like a Metal Gear Solid game. All the reasons people are assuming it's connected to MGS seem a little too coincidental not to have merit, I must admit. Also, was that a whale on fire at the end of the trailer? O__o

Worst case scenario I can see happening is Kojima and friends coming out and saying "Oh this was a game we were working on but scrapped and thought it would just be fun to troll you with it, lol!" like they did with that nightmare game in MGS3.

What would be awesome is if you end up playing the Whale.

Dug up this thread if you don't mind.

New trailer; MGSV = the Phantom Pain = Ground Zeroes. Or something.

At the very least, I dig the trailer. Hurray for surrealism in videogames! Bring me giant fire whales and crazy unicorn horseriders! The music fitted perfectly too. Gotten me a bit more excited for whatever craziness they're cooking up.

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It would be funny if they put an eye patch over the arm stump. You know Kojima would do it and release a five page essay on the reason he made a design choice like that and what it symbolizes.

I was one of the many people who were hoping that the game would actually come out as The Phantom Pain by Moby Dick Games and then 1/3 of the way through the main story, the Metal Gear Solid 5 logo comes up.

I stand by what I said. It doesn't look like an MGS game and it looks smurfing nuts! Either way, interesting smurfing direction they're taking the series in, I like it.

wellllll

"METAL GEAR SOLID V: THE PHANTOM PAIN" GDC 2013 Trailer - YouTube

edit: oh there it is in the thread already. i hate embedding.

I'm still confused about the whole situation with Kojima calling Ground Zeroes a "prologue," Konami confirming they're two separate games, and footage from both being in the latest trailer.

I'm also sad David Hayter got the boot :cry: