Finally, the question which has dominated culinary discussion in Britain for countless ages will be resolved.
WHICH IS IT?!
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Finally, the question which has dominated culinary discussion in Britain for countless ages will be resolved.
WHICH IS IT?!
I actually say both, but I guess I say "own" slightly more often than not.
John Scone.
I'm Canadian, what's a scone?
I usually say the gone variation. But I've been known to say it the other way if I'm feeling particularly uppity.
It's looks like this.
http://www.bbcgoodfood.com/sites/bbc...1001500_10.jpg
They're generally eaten with clotted cream and/or jam.
They may have raisins or sultanas in them. They might be sweet, or savoury.
One should eat scones with cream tea.
Warm scone with some butter on it is all I need. Leave your nasty fruit mush at home.
Don't forget cheese scones!
They look like biscuits. Hot butter and gravy is the way to go!
Only "own" when I'm taking the piss, "on" erry other time.
I'd completely forgotten about that pronunciation.
It's definitely a very niche, not widely-spoken one.
BLASPHEMY! :hot:
If you suggested that in Devon or Cornwall, you would be lynched.
Scones are a sort of crumbly bread, NOT biscuits.
Own.
Well, Carny seems to think so xD
I still say fresh out of the oven, melted butter with gravy. The thing is a biscuit.
There are. I remember it coming up in my History of the English Language module, in my first year of Uni.
HERESY! BLASPHEMY! OBSCENITY! :hot:
If you don't watch yourself, I'll tell Devonshire what you've been saying about scones, and they'll all come get you! :argh:
I pronounce it the latter, that scone is gone. However, due to my London accent it's much more like saying Cone with an S in front.
American dinner biscuit is to my knowledge a more savoury and dry affair. Scones, are by nature very sweet and terribly (read delightfully) butter rich cakes. How does one differentiate between a cake and a biscuit? Well biscuits when fresh are crisp and crumbly, when they go stale they become rather soggy textured. They don't taste as crisp which leaves you disappointed. A cake on the other hand is soft and becomes hard when stale much like bread. This leaves you fearing for the safety of your teeth as you bite in to them and most certainly highly disappointed. Scones belong at afternoon tea, not in your supper, now we'll forget your transgressions and if you're lucky, introduce you to the delights of afternoon tea in the future.
They should be eaten with clotted cream (preferably, though very stiff double cream will do in a pinch. Whip it properly boy, don't you dare use any aerosol trout) and some jam. Eating them plain (don't ask me how people do plain, due to their quite heavy, crumbly texture they have the ability to act like a Cream Cracker to your mouth leaving behind the same cemented shut feeling on your teeth due to crumbs mixed with saliva bonding to all available surfaces). Alternatively, it is known to see them served spread with butter however, it is not the traditional way of consuming these cakes due to the already high butter content. The answer to the other debate (jam or cream first) is thus:
The jam should always be applied first. No arguments, it's like putting the toilet paper on the holder; there is a right way and a wrong way. Cream first is simply put bloody wrong. Here's why:
If you put the cream on first then much like the toilet paper being so it tears off from the back you don't actually have a good clean estimate of how much you have or need when it comes to applying the jam (or wiping your arse to continue the analogy) you end up having to put far more on than required (or tear more off) because you have a surface to spread it on which has far more give and slip (or you just can't smurfing see the thing). This leaves you dissatisfied with both an uneven covering of jam and an overly sweet experience dripping in sugar (or a blocked drain in your toilet which no one wants to break up for fear of the trout being still there)
If however, you do it right, you apply the Jam first (or hang your toilet paper so the tear perforations are on the front of the roll) you can apply the right amount of Jam to ensure maximum coverage and minimum overdoing it. You can then pile a generous helping of clotted cream on top using the adhesive quality of the jam to aid you in the process of applying it. (This is akin to being able to determine exactly how many pieces of toilet paper is enough by cleanly counting in your head). This leads to great satisfaction for the consumer and a relief that they have done things right (they're also not scrabbling for the end of the toilet roll, it is after all in plain view).
Ladies and gentleman. When it takes a man from Finchley to put you all bloody straight on Scones, you know one thing: You're simply not very classy.
No, no, no, no, no, no. :nonono:
You apply both jam and clotted cream at the SAME TIME. Have I blown your mind? :whoa:
You cut the scone into two equal halves. You apply jam to one half, and clotted cream to the other half. You then put the two halves back together. :monocle:
I pronounce it "scone".
You have failed this country!
Now that my Oliver Queen moment is over. You're wrong because then you have to fit the whole scone in your mouth. Now, this may be socially acceptable with say a donut, or similar it is not proper etiquette for eating a Scone. Scones are eaten in halves. As such you should not sandwich them together. Even putting the poor etiquette aside, you have encountered a trap. The trap being that if you do that, sandwich them together, you get less cream and jam per scone. That's simply the worst idea when it comes to eating a scone. Ok, so maybe not as bad as butter and hot gravy but I must say, it's close.
Additionally, Shorty... yes indeed you know you're not classy at all but that's ok. It's why we love you.
Ah, but that's when it gets clever! :spin:
You have a choice of eating the whole scone if you're not in polite company (scones should be small enough to fit in your mouth whole. If not, then they're too large).
Or, you can have one half with just jam, and the other with just clotted cream. You can eat them one at at a time, or alternate between a bite of jam scone and a bite of clotted cream scone.
The third option is that you can smush the two halves together so that the jam half gets clotted cream on it, and the clotted cream half gets jam on it. Then, you can separate them and you have two halves which have both jam and clotted cream on them.
:cool:
You literally just made up the part about the scone having to be small, or someone had misinformed you. Baking competitions have measurements for these things and both halves of a 'perfect scone' would not fit classily into your mouth. If a scone is flat enough to do that then you've either cut it too small in diameter (tbf, Night Fury makes mini scones like that and they are smurfing delicious) or it hasn't risen enough in the baking process, meaning it'll be unusually dense.
Don't smurf with someone whose girlfriend makes him watch that much Great British/Australian Bake Off.
Yes. This is correct. Those photos are biscuits. Not the kind you say are biscuits which are actually cookies, but real biscuits. Murca biscuits.
I definitely read this like "frown" and am judging you, even though you clarified yourself later.
You just get better and better, don't you?
A scone is totally different than a biscuit and the thing in those photos is a biscuit.
Also, I am a biscuit girl all the way down to my toes. Don't try to tell me a biscuit is a scone. I will declare war on you. I have some infantry. They're toddlers. They will destroy you.
I had a 'biscuit' when I was in America a few times and it really tasted dry, dense and horrible. So if I had to guess the difference between the two: A scone is crumbly, delicious and satisfying, and a biscuit turns into some horrible mushy glue like substance that sticks to the roof of your mouth.
If I recall correctly, you didn't spend much time in the southeast. So you don't know trout about biscuits, bes' fran. I'm ashamed of you.
I will make you a delicious, fluffy, butter biscuit and you will take them to your home country. Biscuits will rule the world. It will be glorious. All hail the biscuit overlord.
how does it feel having your sconesy ass handed to you by an Australian steven
Well when it comes to food I'm always willing to have my mind changed. Just promise that if I still don't like them you won't go 'full southerner' and hang me up by my britches or make me compete in a rodeo >.>
I hate to say it dear but I think I was kinda agreeing with Steve more than anything. I know, I hate myself right now, too u_u
What is happening in this world!
If it helps, I don't know what the smurf he was on about with the toilet paper thing. Assumedly he eats scones while taking a dump or something? :/
I had a huge scone last week with blackcurrant jam and clotted cream. It was the bomb. It was part of an afternoon tea tier selection. I could have just eaten a few of these bad boys.
I put the jam on, then the cream on top and it gets a little messy but oh so gooooooood.
http://home.eyesonff.com/attachment....id=65352&stc=1
Sir, I think that you misapprehend me! :monocle: I didn't mean to say that you should have to fit all of the scone into your mouth at once.
Rather, I meant to convey that it should be of such thickness that one can take a whole bite of it at once. I'm not sure that explanation is any better, but it's the best I can manage without an accompanying demonstration.
Just to clarify, I don't mean to make this into a big THING. Everyone can eat their own scones however they choose. :spin:
I get what you're saying. A scone shouldn't be that thin though was my point, if it's that thin then it's either smaller in diameter than a regular scone or it hasn't risen properly and is going to be very dense.
And I DID mean to make this into a big thing :hot::hot:
I think that this is detracting from the central issue, which is the VITALLY important question of "own" vs "gone".
Pick a side, Pheesh! :roll:
I'm waiting to see if Loony BoB has some really weird argument to make about the whole naming thing before I pick a side.
No doubt he's going to come in here batting for the 'rhymes with clown' side.
Seriously though, you've heard people pronounce scone like frown?
What accent is that one?
What about pronouncing it like the number one? Is that a thing? That's weird. I hope it's a thing.
I go with own. I am northern on some pronunciations, southern on others. This is one where I'm southern I guess. Midlands for life.
I hate biscuits for this exact reason. That and it manages to be gluey and fall apart so you're stuck trying to eat like globs/crumbs instead of a well put together piece of bread. And yes foa, I'm in the southeast and I have tried a bunch of them and I wanted to like them but they are awful.
I pronounce it like own
Except nobody in Scotland says "scoon" so.
It's like really thick cream, to the point that it's not pourable or anything.
Like cake icing, is that clotted cream?
No. Because that's icing. This is just really thick cream.
Heavy cream still seems to be fairly pourable. You literally cannot pour clotted cream.
http://i.telegraph.co.uk/multimedia/...m_1888235i.jpg
This is how thick we're talking here. You need to spoon it out.
It looks like butter. I think you guys just made some soft butter and tried to.get all fancy ass about it.
I like butter and jam on my biscuits too tho, no judgement.
They are Brits so their response would be to say that you're wrong in a polite manner, and let most of their anger bubble inside.
They can come to my house and we can trade passive aggressive comments while I serve them biscuits with butter and jelly.
I'll follow everything they say with "bless your heart." That'll teach em.
you'd all be dead because the Cornish would not accept a.) having their cream being assigned to Devon and b.) being referred to as Brits
clotted cream is not butter, it is god tier cream, nothing comes close
I've only ever had clotted cream in Glasgow, doesn't make it Glaswegian. ;)
But apparently both areas claim it (according to the internet), and I like to imagine that there have been battles fought concerning this. But the largest producer currently is in Cornwall so I suppose at this stage, they'd win.
"Clot" is too gross of a word to be involved with something as wonderful as cream. :stare: Are you people talking about cream cheese?
Nah, look at the photo again. Its clearly a cousin of butter.
Hey I wrote you a song. Fred Astaire is probably rolling over in his grave. (To the tune of Putting on the Ritz)
Quote:
Have you read the thread on scones?
"Do you pronounce this like gones or owns?"
Down the page in Quina's Kitchen
There's a bit of culinary bitching
Clot cream and jammed up berries
Sweet things that cause dental caries
Some may ask "What is it?"
If you ask me, it's a biscuiiiit
If you're mean and want to start trout
I know the place you should be about
Foodie fits...
Pissin' off the Brits
Calling their cuisine by a different name
Will earn the ire of each sir and dame
They'll lose their tits...
Pissin' off the Brits
Say their chocolate's not as good as Hershey's
You'll lose evyer one of their tender mercies (they'll get cursey!)
Tell them Yorkshire pudding is just bread
They'll soon be coming for your head
Pissin' off the Brits
They would consider it quite rude and feckless
To ask them "why do y'all serve beans at breakfast?" (you're on their deathlist!)
From Devonshire or Cornwall
They'll be prepared to fight and maul
You down to bits.
Pissin' off the Brits.
If anything, it's a pancake as they're pretty much the same recipe!