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I am sure most of you are aware of this, but gas is shooting up at an incredibly fast rate. Because the oil places are shut down in New Orleans because of flooding, gas production has stopped. On the radio today, a gas representative said that premium is going to hit four dollars. I have seen gas in my area at 2.95 and 3.25 for regular unleaded. I lucked out and got 2.72 a bit ago. However, it's going to rise. Fill up your tank ASAP.
One of the (many) good things about living in Texas is that the gas prices are generally so much less insane than in other places. I just recently filled up for 2.54, and gas prices aren't expected to get much more than about 2.75 around here.
False. That's more expensive than most places actually, including here and where my sister lives. So stop it...it's getting really old now.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kirobaito
I don't own a car, and I'm glad...even if gas were 13 cents a gallon I still wouldn't because the hell that comes with them just isn't worth it to me (and walking sure as hell isn't going to hurt me).
Seems a bit unnecessary, as I hope you would know that my constant Texas-hyping is in good fun by now. But yes, in the 2.50s is the same or cheaper than what I have been seeing in most places, in the 60s at the cheapest, and 70s. www.gasbuddy.com is a good place to look. Check out the major cities. Most are in the 2.60s from what I can see. Tennessee is one place that appears cheaper. But when it comes to major cities, my area is one of the cheaper ones.Quote:
Originally Posted by DMKA
Edit: Virginia is another place that seems cheaper. But for the most part I see 2.60s, especially in a comparable place, population-wise, in California.
EDIT: Additionally, it seems that gas is cheaper in other parts of the city, as low as in the 2.40s.
The lowest I've seen in G.A. so far is 2.75 or so. It will most likely rise but since I've moved in on campus I don't use my truck a lot. So I'm safe for now. xD
getting high for cheap is now expensive
I live in Texas too and I filled up this afternoon for $2.44. It was the cheapest one in town, though, and every pump had at least four cars in line waiting. I saw one gas station go from $2.53 this morning up to $2.59 by this afternoon.
It's bound to happen, I guess. Gas prices here in upper Michigan typically aren't that insane, and I don't do a lot of driving, so granted I don't feel the effect like, say, parents, or those who travel a lot, but the rates don't bother me so much. Even when the price suddenly jumps 5 cents or so per gallon, it seems like a fair trade for the convenience of automobile transportation.
If it suddenly shot up to $4, and that was an ongoing trend, I'd probably start to worry, but if there's a legit reason for a temporary, dramatic increase in prices (like Hurricane Katrina hampering oil output - especially in this case where I'd be more worried about the hurricanes other effects), I'll survive.
I live in San Diego, and it's almost $3.00 a gallon. I am so lucky i live across the street from my work and my wife car pools.
It's been close to $3 here, but never actually hit that mark. Right now it's 2.57. Which really isn't that bad I suppose. But yes, I'm sure it'll get to $3/gallon around here by the end of the year =/
Its this reason why i would like America to slowly weed off its car industry and actually start a massive Mass Trasnportation system that is efficient and in good service like in HK or Japan or something of the sort. Of course i doubt it would happen, US is a car country and they would HATE losing money like that. I wouldnt mind not having a car if i can actually get to where i wanna go with mass transit consistantly enough and cheap enough. Meh.
America should ban hurricanes instead.
I find it amusing you Americans call it 'gas' :p
I find it amusing that despite a massive rise in prices, they still pay less than half of what we pay for petrol (gas).
Okay thats it, it's time to start the war on hurricanes! Who's with me?Quote:
Originally Posted by -N-
I agree fully. On the news yesterday they said that gas prices could rise to as much as $3.00 per gallon - or 45p per litre, which is pretty much bang on half of what we pay in Britain.Quote:
Originally Posted by tomamar04
America: Quit whining. I love you guys, and the country itself, but you've got it better than anyone else alive when it comes to gas by a considerable margin. When you get to $6 or $8, then we'll listen to you complain, because then you'll be on par with us.
The War On Terra.Quote:
Originally Posted by nik0tine
Ok, it's patent BS, but it's still funny.
Gas here is about $1 per liter now. It's insane! :mad2:
We're paying £1 a litre, a a dollar is worth only 60p. Stop complaining. We pay double you do.Quote:
Originally Posted by Faris
It's over $1.4 per liter here in France.
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Originally Posted by Kirobaito
I sawe one yesterday go from 2.45 to 2.75 in 5 or 6 hours.Quote:
Originally Posted by MoonsEcho
The difference in prices based on area is due to different chemicals which
reduce emisions being put into the gas. In San Francisco prices are very
high because it's so crowded and there's so much pollution that they need
to spend the extra money on the additives. Whereas in Texas or Wyoming
or something, you don't need to spend as much because they don't need
to worry as much about pollution.
It's like 2.69 at the cheapest place I know of here in Rhode Island.
.opt
Dear European People --
When you live forty miles from work, then you can tell me to shove it. xD
The reason this is a viable problem for America is all the travel we HAVE to do. This is a big country, and things are spaced pretty far apart. I live way out in the woods of Western North Carolina and a decent job is a long way away.
Oh? Relocate? Okay, you send me relocation funds, and we'll talk. Then you can tell me to shove it too.
Lots of Love,
foa <3
PS: The point of this post isn't a flame, it's just something else to take into consideration when you tell me to stop my whining ;_;
There are people who live in Leicester, and many other towns, who commute to London daily for work. Leicester, for example, is in the region of 100 miles from London. Now yes, I've been to the US several times, and I understand what you're talking about there - but people in Europe have to drive as well, and often for just as far as you guys do. The only reason, I wager, that we have more public transport is because fuel prices are such a joke, and people just can't afford it. When that happens there, the same thing will come about.
I half do (26 km). Now half shove it. <3<3Quote:
Originally Posted by fire_of_avalon
;)
Edit: also, one difference is that cars here are less gas-efficient than in the US. To give you an idea, on my dad's car, on highways, I can get at best 700-800km with 60 liters. So that's... 435-500 miles with 15 gallons... or about 30 miles per gallon. Sadly, most of the time is spent in town in traffic, which means often only 2/3 that if you're lucky.
It just went up to $3.09/gallon here today >_>;;
Same.Quote:
Originally Posted by Vyk
My chemistry teacher said that it's expected to get even worse during winter, due to so many people using oil heat.
Sadly, public transportation in the US just isn't realistic outside of the cities. There are too many residences too far spaced out to make it feasible for a lot of people.
I'll admit I only "heard" this so I don't know how true it is. But from what people are saying (and I know gas prices were gonna go up anyway) right now prices are on the rise because of the hurricane. Supposedly we import most of our oil through the gulf? And now it's hard to travel through there? I dunno. I don't keep up with these things.
Arrggh. The gas here is about $2.80, just a month or two ago it was $2.05. I wish that Saudi Arabian king hadn't died.
Considering the already high prices and the damage done in Louisiana due to Hurricane Katrina, I wouldn't be too surprised if gas rationing returned sometime in the future. I'm starting to be really glad I don't have a car now; I won't need it in college next year, and helping friends pay for gas and carpooling is so much better.
Gas sucks.
Time for a new fuel.
I can make this tank last until the prices go down again. I've been on this tank for about two months now and still have 1/3 tank left.
Yeah, foa for the win. People don't realise that America uses more gas, because... I dunno... could it be the fact that... America is a huge country?Quote:
Originally Posted by fire_of_avalon
*half shoves it*
Oh, and it's not a problem in WNC anymore. Apparently we just ran out. Everywhere. *facepalm*
That's exactly the mileage I get with my car.Quote:
Originally Posted by Endless
30 miles per gallon is pretty good. Especially since in the US a lot of people drive big cars which get that or less.
I meant the 2/3rds of that, actually.
Well I know what I am going to do with any saved money from any job I have. Gotta save up for that Honda Insight. Couldn't talk my parents into for the new family car so I guess I'll go save and get one myself. And its gas mileage is nothing to sneeze at. I have heard as high as 90mpg from people who have one.
Anyways dad just filled up our Buick station wagon and the new Ford Explorer(this is what I was argueing about. I told them to get something with better gas mileage. They told me not to worry since they would prolly be buying the gas.. well they better.. I ain't paying to put 8$ of gas in it just to drive to town). I think he put in nearly 100$ in those two.
Edit- Dad just put another 80$ in our large Cargo/Passenger Van.
Hell,we should sign a petiton.....E.a.H (EoFF'ers Against Hurricanes!!!) :exdee:Quote:
Originally Posted by nik0tine
Whoa, Sephex. I hope everone did use your advice. Here gas shot up 49 cents per gallon in one day! :eek:
I hate the oil companies for raising the prices and reaping the ill earned rewards of unfortunate oppertunity. I think that the oil industry is just as evil as the pillagers for raising thier prices.
They are gaining money from us, that should be going to help the efforts against the Katrina disaster.
Bipper
Well for now the only solution until prices lower is carpooling and planning your routes.
I know right now in gasoline 10% ethanol is added for cleaner burning fuel and more efficiency. In most large busses 85% ethanol is used (also referred too as 'natural gas.') along with 15% of gasoline seeing it requires a crude oil base. Now... If we can harness the knowledge of making ethanol alone into an efficient fuel we'd resolve a lot of problems. Atleast the amount of ethanol being used would outweight the gasoline in ration.
Erm, no, this is a natural reaction. The places charging $6, yeah, they're out of line. But the rises in price are coming about because there is simply not enough production capacity with the Gulf Coast out of commission for days, weeks, possibly even months. Supply and demand.Quote:
Originally Posted by bipper
The supply can be met; but it is'nt either way OPEC does have a major influence on the supply of oil. Its not like we are at a HUGE shortage. (Please correct me if i am wrong). Its just reminding me of the post 9/11 hike. Rediculous imo. I have tried searching though and cannot find a whole lot on this subject.
To me it just seems since American prodcution is down, the importers will raise there prices above the curve of supply and deman. Feeding off a false misconceptions caused by the storm. I hate it when humans become canabalistic parasites. There are a lot of things I don't agree with though, and I guess - I just have to deal with it :D (duh)
edit - Sorry, I mean I know that we have a low supply stateside, and that it will go up reguardless as it will cost it more to get over here. I blame both our government, and not so much OPEC for not producing enough of a reserve for emergenies. The price does seem to get overexaduatied though. When you think of how much tax is made of gass and look at the tax/gallon ratio, then take into concideration the hike... yeah - it is rediculous. Supply and demand should not rape.
bipper
About $3.40 a gallon here in Central New York
Got about 11.5 gallons yesterday for a nice $32.
Dude your gonna cause mass panic(which already happened,which raised the gas prices even faster.).Quote:
Originally Posted by Sephex
Also tomorrow in Oklahoma.We'll be voting on a bill that will raise the gas taxes. Yeah thats crazy.
Gas here in Iowa is Reg is 2.50 and for Silver its 2.46 XD I was soo happy that gas has went down X3
it's probably going to go back up again this weekend when hurricane Rita plows through the gulf again and screws up the offshore oil rigs even more.
Gas has been going steadily down lately, but I dont necessarily view this as a good thing
I've seen chain emails telling us to buy gas (petrol) from non-brand name distributors. Is that a viable option?
-sighs- Your probolly right -sigh- :(Quote:
Originally Posted by eestlinc
Name the companies that sell it, and I am there. That is only if greed leeds to another false demand. I had gotten this newsletter at work, that claimed that only a 7% loss in oil capasity was lost during the last huricane. It seems reasonable since we import all of the oil. Price is bound to go up when someone else is flippin the bill.Quote:
Originally Posted by Pureghetto
Bipper
7% is pretty big, and it was concentrated geographically too. For example Atlanta gets most of it's oil from LA based sources, so while it might have been a 7% loss nationally, it was much much higher here, and prices skyrocketed both due to gouging and to true lack of supply.
Thats jsut the suburbs lol most students get cars thats are very economical and have excelent gas mileage.Quote:
Originally Posted by ShlupQuack
Here in Melbourne (Victoria, Australia) petrol's gone up to 1.4AUD a litre. Probably go up to 1.6AUD a litre in a few days I guess. Sucks - used to stay at a good .7AUD a litre.
In 2004, 34% of crude oil was produced in the US, and the other 66% were imported. From what I can read on the EIA site, the production in the US fell from 5,427 thousand barrels a week before Katrina to less than 4,500 after (4,500 the past week). That's a 17% loss just in production, to which you should add that the Gulf is a major hub for oil and natural gas transit.Quote:
Originally Posted by bipper
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http://www.eia.doe.gov/emeu/steo/pub/contents.html
if you insist.Quote:
Originally Posted by lordblazer
Gas prices are falling pretty steadily here, but I imagine that eestlinc is right and this new hurricane is going to halt this progress.
-sniffle- I really don't want it to -sniffle- I am the only person at home that has my drivers license so I am left with all the driving and stuff :cry:Quote:
Originally Posted by RSL
Rita is set to hit Houston. Exxon and several other's are evacuating and closing down. Not good, I would asume that we should indeed prepare for a price hike. $5 a gallon Gas? was the headline on CNN this morning. Strickly a namesake as the guestimate was a dollar increase from what it is now.
by the way, thanks fro that endless, like I said its was just a newsletter that someone was passing around, and I belive it may have said thatthe percentage was off-shore specific, come to think of it.
Bipper
My Question is why do England's petrol prices rise?
fuel prices are going to end up being so high people won't drive.
Hydro power :DQuote:
Originally Posted by GooeyToast
We important our 'gas' from the states...I believe...so our fuel level is gonna be pretty low thats my theory anyways xD
The petroleum market is so tight that disruptions in supply anywhere in the world have ripple effects even in remote locations.Quote:
Originally Posted by Shoden