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I think being a porn star and being a prostitute is essentially the same. You make money by having sex in both cases, I don't really see a huge difference.
Therefore, how come the pornography industry is perfectly legal while brothels, in many countries, are not?
Because when it's pornography, more than just the people involved in the actual acts benefit.
I believe that because it's filmmaking and considered an actual form of entertainment, it's perfectly legal in some countries.
Sure, it's an "art form", but the acts performed are basically the exact same, just more glorified. Basically they're paid for having sex, just like hookers do.
And I don't think I said making pornography is illegal in as many countries as brothel activity is.
So making porn is legal because the persons performing the sexual acts don't get all the money for themselves? That's often the case in a brothel too.Quote:
Originally Posted by ~*~Celes~*~
Everyone benefits from it.
Not just the wealthy.
Of course there not the same, Porn Stars know who there sleeping with, and if they've got any STD's. Hookers know nothing about who there sleeping with and what they've got, and worse, the person dosent know what kind of STD's the hooker may have. With Prostitution, theres a big risk involved, with Porn theres not.
i wouldn’t call it a "art form" either its doing yourself wrong i think people who get into it have been brought up wrong ha ha sorry to sound like a agony aunt.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mirage
Dreedz made a valid point.
What if prostitutes were forced to test themselves at regular intervals by law, and keep track of their clients in case one of them got infected or infected them? Sort of making a legal agreement where both parts warrant that they are clean before the service is performed.
If that was the case, do you think brothels should be legal?
If someone screw a hooker and flim the whole process then upload it as a porn flim, then what will it be? :screwy:
It doesn't really matter to me, because I think prostitution should be legal, but there is some difference. But like I said, they should both be legal.
There are similarities between (hardcore) pornography and prostitution, just as there are differences. Many of them have been mentioned in the thread already, and I can’t think of any at the moment. I just wanted to post in this thread to say that prostitution and brothel keeping (if those involved are over 18) are both legal in New Zealand.
Yes, I think the two are very very similar. To the point where it doesn't make sense that one is legal while the other is not.
As far as I know, the porn industry does a lot to make sure that the "talent" are regularly tested and whatnot. If the same was done with regulated prostitution, I don't see why prostitution shouldn't be legal.
I mean. Either way, you're whoring yourself out.
Porn is far more acting-based, whereas prostitution is entirely pleasure-based. They both have to look the part, they both have to have appeal, and they're both selling their bodies, although prostitutes sell their bodies directly while porn stars sell images and videos of their bodies more than anything else. I think that as vocations they're quite different.
And I disagree with the legality of either of them solely because I disagree with the morality of either of them, but that's just me. I can live with either being legal because I personally am not interested enough to be a partaker of the fruits of either industry anyway.
Both are kinda the same I see it as this point and print but Porn and prostitution are the same one. one is just seen world wide i.e porn, prostitution is the same but not seen world wide and more of those women/men die more often.
Prostitution is a far more widespread occupation and one of the oldest professions in the world. It would be hard to regulate such a thing with any sort of authority and the sheer cost of the testing would be enough to make it an almost impossible task to accomplish.Quote:
Originally Posted by Miriel
The Porn Industry, however, is much smaller and easier to manage. While it amounts to the same thing as prositution, in theory, the worlds are pretty much polar opposites of each other.
Actually, prostitution is legal and regulated in many countries other than the United States. Heck, the United States itself had legal prostitution just a few decades ago.
I suggest you look for the episode of Penn and Teller's Bull:skull::skull::skull::skull: on this very topic, wherein they look at a nevada brothel with exactly those self set conditions. In short, yes, I do.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mirage
because everyone in a porn movie is getting paid while only the prostitue/prostitutes are getting paid in prostitution, and the person hiring the prostitue is doing the paying. SO if one of the porn stars were to have sex with the person giving them the money for the porn movie in order to get more money that should be illegal.
See it's not the same thing, one is getting paid to recorded having sex while the other is getting paid for the sex itself.
Yes i know what i said makes little sense
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To the point that the porn industry is?Quote:
Originally Posted by Miriel
Nah, hookers might want to keep low profile, while a porn star could be famous in the adult world.
I never thought of it that way before.
For some reason, "doing porn" doesn't seem as bad as prostitution.
I don't see how one being pleasure-based should warrant outlawing.Quote:
Originally Posted by Drex
There are many that have jobs they take pleasure from doing.
I still fail to see how the amount of people profiting from it has anything to do with the legality of it. Sounds like massive capitalist lobbying to me.Quote:
Originally Posted by blackmage_nuke
They can keep a low profile even if they were organized.Quote:
Originally Posted by mooglebunni608
I live in Norway, and it's perfectly legal to sell your body here. However, organized prostitution (read: brothels) is illegal. I think prostitutes would benefit from working legally and organized. They would be safer if they were in a building where people could help them in case some of the customers started doing stuff he or she shouldn't.
If one's going to be legal, then the other should be. I can't see very much distinction between the two, myself, so it's rather a double standard if one is freely practised while the other is outlawed.
Yes, essentially the same in moral principles, both degenerates in my book. I know so little about the world of pornography but their lifestyle seems more upper class than prostitutes or have I been watching too many movies?
Even though I voted, like, 6 seconds ago, I can't remember what I voted for. :(
Whatever, I meant yes. The only real difference is that one has a camera and is more glamourous. Some porn produceer blokey moaned about this.
Something along those lines.Quote:
Originally Posted by Porn Producer blokey - roughly
Well surprisingly the act of prostitution in the UK is not illegal. It is considered frowned upon and is generally discouraged but is not actually illegal it is just the pimping of hookers or the founding of a brothel that is illegal. As for the topic at hand. I think it is as Seymour Butts said once, "If we were here right now without a camera and a state trooper was here too and I said I will give you 50 bucks for a blow job the officer would be forced to give you a ticket or arrest you for the crime of prostitution. However with the camera here in the same situation, it's merely porn and perfectly legal." That was in an interview on a program I saw once.
ya pornstars are glorified prostitutes....i dunno..its a pretty sweet deal for the dude i guess...its not liek he has to do anyhtin...and as far as porn bein actin based....
i say this...
pornstars smurf for a livin..call it actin...and then say its the hardest job evuh....hahahaha....or the best job..i forget....
BTW...I INSPIRED THIS THREAD....YOUR WELCOME MIRAGE....
*sex0rz some random hooker..i mean pornstar..*
haha...oh...did i say that out loud??!?!?
Wha-? :O_O:
Porn stars win a lot of money, prostitutes don't! Usually porn stars are hot (well u know all blond with tons of cilicone) porstitutes are normal women who usually have a tired look!
What about natural bubbies porno? :bigsmile:
They're both disgusting so I don't care.
quin..valid point.....
and..uh..hookers are icky...and they have names liek "dick"..hahahhaha
I was responding to whether or not I thought they were the same, not whether or not one should be outlawed and one not. It makes logical sense to make both or neither legal, but not one to the exclusion of the other. I personally feel like banning both is the moral choice, but since government nowadays doesn't really do things based on morals, I wouldn't be surprised to see both be legal. Either way, as I said, I don't really care because I'm not involved in either.Quote:
Originally Posted by MirageI don't see how one being pleasure-based should warrant outlawing.Quote:
Originally Posted by Drex
There are many that have jobs they take pleasure from doing.
Outlawing prostitution is useless. People of that nature will look for their "needs" to be fulfilled anywhere and will not be complacent to legislative measures put in place to stop that sort of thing. Legalizing prostitution would also ensure the health and safety of the person providing the "service" as well as the person receiving it. Prostitution will not be the fall of society. Those people already exist. If you're afraid that it will make things like adultery more easily accessible, then I suggest you think long and hard about who you want to start a relationship with.
Yep...well, more like prostitues are nasty dried up women *shrug*Quote:
Originally Posted by Ice Angel
Not to mention porn stars are easily accessible from the comfort of your own home!
And only cost a few quid for a lifetime of services.
Wait. If prostitution were legal, rather than merely tolerated because it's just not worth the effort, then it could be a properly regulated industry where demands could be made on identity. It's not illegal because it's dangerous so much as it's dangerous because it's illegal, or at least significantly more dangerous than it has to be.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dreddz
Edit: And everyone's beeing too technical about this. They both get paid to get people off. I see little difference.
Its not the same thing, still both should be legal (and controled), imho.
There's something that differentiates the two and makes one more acceptable than the other. I'm not sure exactly.... but it could be a number of the following:
Porn stars:
Registered
Must wear condoms
Vigorous STD Testing
"Basement" Entertainment
Apparently they act sometimes too
Celebrity Status
Inaccesible (that is you can't touch them)
Prostitutes:
Are extremely Accessible
Placed in constant risk & danger of infection/physical damage
STD testing is not available upon request
They pleasure you directly
Illegal solicitation
Not registered
I think mainly the concern is that pornstars are registered and ndergo constant STD checkups to ensure they're not spreading a contageous and harmful disease. It's deffinately illegal to knowingly transmit an STD .... so I think the government has taken protective action to attempt to ensure that citizens are not being placed at risk. Since pornography can't transmit a disease to you directly I think it is less shunned and valued differently as opposed to an anonymous prostitute on the street who is selling herself for God knows what and may not really care if she/he passes on life threatening STD.